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People who tell lies are even worse than the “I told u so” crew. What’s taking you long to dig my post?

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My predictions have been made since before Angola.
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Mujtahida:
No be only cook, na done. You predict abi you no predict? No be you be predictor?

Oya predict our match tomorrow for me 😜😜

I’m judging his performance. That’s all. I speak on the areas he is doing well, and also where he is failing. Is that simple.

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And let me correct you, I’ve been on his case when he was even given the job 😂

dijon:
You have a very wicked agenda against the coach. You have been on his case from the world cup qualifying and till this moment you have not desist from your subtle jabs.
Brother, the train has left the train station since oooo...

I’m an objective fan. Yes I’m a FAN.. I want us to win the AFCON and get better as a squad to challenge for the highest prize. I don’t praise mediocrity.

dijon:
Joebie no 1 enemy masquerading like a true fan.

Basco check my opinions on Sadiq on this thread. It’s all on record.

BascoVanVeli:
This is unfair. U don't have to do Sadiq like that.

Based on JPes? You sef no fit look players judge for yourself? Even diff coaches have their preferences. Yeye logic.

mostob:
You seem to forget that Onuachu is in Ivory coast due to injury Sadiq sustained before the tourney. I think you have your answer already

Haha.. u don cook lies abi?

Mujtahida:
Na you know oo. Victory. That's all that matters. Even if we no win. We don try. Na first round exit you predict. We have gone over and beyond.

I hope so. We should also say Nwabali is out lol.

Marjoribanks:
Nothing is wrong with Osimhen!
All na psychology warfare!

The same thing Tunisia did to us at the last AFCON only to see their best players in the starting 11.

We will beat South Africa with KC as CF sef

talk2docee:
So is it at this stage... The coach should be making 'try and error'? what are friendly matches and group matches meant for?
Osimhen is not injured, you want to bring in Moffi? All because he has not scored more goals as a striker? He contributed to all the goals scored in this tournament! Abeg make una leave that guy! He remains a threat to opposing teams...

I repeat if Osimhen does not start that match against South Africa... Then let's forget finals!

Me i talk defects every time as much as I celebrate success. Come beat me na lol

And if/when we win the AFCON I hope say e go help the naira lol.

Mujtahida:
Okocha was asked by Arisetv correspondent that of all the AFCON we have won plus this one(if we win it), which is the most important.

Without hesitation Okocha said this one because we need it now as a nation. Na why all talk about JPes defect no bother me oo. You see me talk about sweet football again? Naaa, make we just win. Naija needs it. Our nation needs some joy. We can talk defects later

When you called out Rohr early it was for the purpose of I told u so abi? Na u sabi read others intention abi? Abi don’t I still also stand the risk of someone calling me out that I was saying rubbish? It goes either way. The likes of Blueif, gustav etc are getting their own trashing now. Even some are still trying to find quotes to blast me. So who is now right or wrong? Anyone can also be guilty of “I told you so”. Why not just focus on the points made instead of the labeling? Attack the points. If I say Jpes is clueless , I will list my reasons. Counter the my points or leave it at that.

Mujtahida:
I started calling out Rohr just immediately before the WC 2018. I too, I have the eye and mind to think objectively and critically. All I'm saying is that make we win. That's my concern. Any complaints that is about pointing out present defects in this tournament for the purpose of saying - in the future - I told you so, no be am for me. There's a time for everything. Tournaments are celebratory events when your team wins. So you celebrate.

Naija go win match, you no fit enjoy am because you want to be objective and critical. Oho na suffer be that oo cos when we win, you complain, when we lose you complain. Double wahala for complainant. When you go enjoy na?

What you guys seem to want is that kind of unrealistic expectation where SE dominates like how we spank Cameroun 4-0.

Jpes don hack this thing. I knack you one zero. I prevent you from scoring. I win. Whether I sub Osimhen, or not, play Moffi or not. I don win.

You when no dey watch match.
Jpes dey shine before he come naija ni? lol 😂


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Kai I mistake u for Charles.

I was a big Rohr critic at some point when he stopped delivering the goods. It was apparent he had nothing more to offer. But many were emotional living in the past. It’s really easy to be objective. Just observe and say what you see. Is Osimhen instrumental to our success so far? A big yes m. Is he missing chances he should be burying? A capital yes! Both truth can coexist. Does Moffi, KC have something to offer? A capital yes. Why shouldn’t they play when Osimhen is obviously tired and cannot offer much in the game. People act like once u give KC the liscemse to kill the game suddenly our defense will fall flat. I

Mujtahida:
😂😂 Just like in the future when Jpes fade, you go say you found him out long time ago. If e happen like that, we go clap for you.

But in the here and now, all that matters na make we win this tournament. Many people know the coach's limitations but now that we have climbed this iroko tree, we must come down with all the firewood we need.

Based on what na? Eye test?

charlesemeka85:
Sadiq is better than Onuachu abeg

Sadiq would have been the worse. He would have had nothing to offer. At least Onuachu is still doing the job he is called to do. Sadiq would have been falling all over the place. He is at the club now but would likely not score before the AFCON is over.

Found him out long, when many were saying Jpes knows what he was doing by keeping him.

Mujtahida:
Aribo has faded

All those una funny logic. Both defensive and offensive teams are home, as well as still in the tourney.

mank1234:
Lolz. Some teams are home now because they wanted to initiate counter towards the end of a match.
A fish at hand is better than a thousand in the ocean. Or is there a difference between 1:0 and 10:0 scoreline?

I singled him out as our best player at the U20 WC. So far he has not disappointed. Voted him as our best young player.

charlesemeka85:
Benjamin Fredrick on the bench for Brentford against Manchester City

Na still Grace of God even for Uzoho not to collect injury.

forgiveness:
Against injury. Abi no bi by Grace of God you sey breath?

U be oboto for mumuness as u no fit reason 😂

Oboto700:
most people no get sense... osihmen would be running in on defenders just to put smiles on our faces some people here would be asking the coach to bench him.. is that right? That's witchcraft

I’m not feeling sorry for Moffi or KC. Read and see reason. Their contribution may be needed in future. But they may be ineffective because they have seen zero action prior.

I think the game against Angola exposed Peseiro. It was bad idea not switching things up as things wore out. He wanted to die with the old script. Fortunately, we held on.

Mujtahida:
It's not about tasting action oo. There must be real practical reasons for them to come in. At Afcon 94, Rashidi played all the matches. I read you as if you are feeling sorry for Moffi and Iheanacho (unless I am wrong and I hope I am).

It's cliché to say you don't change a winning team or strategy. Sounds ordinary but if you try something else and dem knack you kpako, you will be filled with deep regret.

We forget that this strategy was adopted because of the glaring weakness of our team. And the weaknesses are still there oo but this strategy has enabled us manage them better.

The only reason why I'd call for Osimhen to be subbed are:
If he's tired or we are leading by at least two goals. No be to just remove am fiam just to give Iheanacho and Moffi play time oo. If you take unnecessary risk and e back fire, you go piss for pant.

If I am Peserio I will do exactly what he has been doing. Yes it's predictable but predictability of itself is not bad if your opponents don't have superior strategy to deal with you. Arjen Robben was highly predictable. Even you and me know say him go cut to his favorite left foot but oya stop am na. That's the rub.

Na wetin i dey see i dey talk. I called out Rohr early and it’s on record here. It all played out before our very eyes. I don’t say everything is fine just becomes some things are fine. I’m not emotional like that.

ChrisKels:
If you were here in 2018 you wouldn’t be wasting your time on Joebie. This is his usual tournament ish.


Errrm please change your moniker from Oboto to Obote

Which one be Grace of God again? haha. And u dey question person mentality lol

forgiveness:
Which impact substitute? Una don come with dis una mentality again.

Moses Simon is here to stay. By the grace of God, he will start the match.

My point has always been making tactical substitutions. At the most, havin him come in immediately after HT, of course not at this stage of the tournament. The likes of KC, Moffi have not had a run at this AFCON, that makes me wonder if they will be able to make an impact if introduced at the later stages of this tournament. Hopefully, we will not need them eventually. I hope you are seeing what I’m saying. Those guys should have tested some action at least.

Mujtahida:
If only we have been converting our chances because truth is that we create at least two clear cut chances in each game but conversation rate is abysmal. That's not a reason for Osimhen to be dropped although I'd prefer if he can be subbed off when he's exhausted or when we are leading. Not Onuachu abeg. Moffi or Iheanacho. I don tire for that kind Onuachu style

Quote me saying it. And if you can’t you deserve any curse lol

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And how many accounts will u be hacking and deactivating?. Jobless goat.

Oboto700:
you wey no get Sense.. even if this Man wins the world cup.. you would still complain.. were you not among those that were saying we won't win any Match in the nations cup? If you say nonsense..i am going to hack ur account and deactivate you.

That’s the only thing Osimhen has done poorly— conversion rate. Everything else, he is GOLD.

Blueelf:
I am not saying he isn't an asset

But if you watch SE AFCON games without sentiments and judge all our attacking situations, Osimhen has been the weak link in most of them

It's either he is offside or he balloons the ball wide

But it is a defender (Zaidu Sanusi) that is their problem. Moses Simon who has been playing well has not gotten any recognition because he is not Osimhen

You see bro, I want to point out their hypocrisy that stinks to high heavens

Do you know benching osimhen would throw the Southies off their game plan because it will be unexpected?

Onuachu’s duty has always been to hold. That’s Peseiro speaking tactically.

When Osimhen is tired, he is tired. You will have to change the set up when necessary.

EEGA:
Bench him in a tournament, where he has contributed to 75% of the goals scored by our team in this tournament.

You seem to over rate the strikers on the bench.Onuachu has not even recorded a shot on target and has always killed our counters, whenever he comes on.

Most of the strikers you want in the starting line-up, require creative/advanced mid-fielders , not this kind of set up.To accommodate them you will need to change to a midfield 3.We can't do that because, you can't change a winning team.

You have made a good point. But the point I’ve been making is that you cannot be found out, but remain rigid in the run of play. Yes Peseiro has found a winning formula, but when the opponent counters, can he react? That’s left to be seen. At some point we will need someone to kill the game of Osimhen can’t. And you may also have to tweak things in the midfield. I’m not convinced about Peseiro’s match reading.

EEGA:
We play a 3-4-3, relying on creativity from the wings.

Iwobi who is the most creative player, plays as a DLP.This is the reason, he has barely 3 key passes in this tournament.When asked he said Peseiro changed his role to a defensive one.

It's Osimhen pace on the counter,aggression,off the ball movement in anticipation of a through pass or long ball and shooting that makes him see those chances.

Other strikers on the bench will struggle to see those kind of chances.Osimhen tries his best to get to a long ball before the opponent central defenders.His is better suit for this tactics due to his willingness to get to any ball b4 the opponent.An Onuachu and Iheanacho can't.Moffi will only offer little.

You want other strikers to start complaining of poor creativity from midfield and isolation upfront because they lack Osimhen's skill set.

Our current tactics and strategy is only suited for Osimhen.Other strikers will struggle in this current tactics.

If I may ask, Have you ever pondered why Onuachu has never mustered one shot on target?

Osimhen is an asset to any team whether he scores or not.

But it’s okay to bench him in some situations

Blueelf:
Osimhen is not as good a striker as he is touted to be. He is overrated

Anybody that doesn't like this statement should hug the nearest transformer

He has been figured out and in the Serie A, the same thing would happen. If they could do it in AFCON, then serie A defenders are just waiting for him

He should be benched. Yes, I said it and I own it with my full chest

Simple!!!

Talk about WC appearances and achievements. We like to deceive ourselves. We celebrate mediocrity.

mrwilliams9:
Same thing I said. 16 SFs for 7 finals and only 3 titles is massive underperformance.

There should be 1 title for every three SFs imo

I saw this argument on Facebook and it was full of tribal sentiments. I’ve clearly criticized Osimhen and Zaidu in this thread. When defenders have the opportunity to score they should score even if that’s not their primary role. Likewise a striker in an opportunity to defend should defend for the team. Osimhen has done everything for this team but miss more chances. Likewsise Zaidu who has played as a wing back has failed in his secondary duty most times.

The team is set up to be very defensive. Every starter in that team has a defensive side. While we praise the defenders a lot we fail to realize the upfront (midfielders and forwards) players still play big role in reducing the pressure on the defenders.

I think what is left of this team is also know how to attack as a unit. They defend very well as a unit. If they can figure that out, and Zaidu, Bassey, Ekong etc scores, nobody will complain that Osimhen is not scoring. Really the goals should come from anywhere.

Bannedlargedx2:
The problem here is people and their sentimental biased. For example, Zaidu primary responsibility is his defensive duties and thus far, he has been solid defensively while horrible offensively and people are suggesting that, he should be replaced. Similarly, starboy primary responsibility is to score goals and while he hasn’t scored enough goals, he has provided work ethic, hustle, never say die attitude and critics has been kind. As for me, I wouldn’t drop starboy but would start replacing him earlier if he doesn’t start scoring. You cannot have potent finishers like Iheanacho, moffi on the bench without giving them a chance if your main striker isn’t scoring. In our analysis, let all of be partial

Very objective take.

The SE is doing well but it’s okay to still point out our lapses. We need to improve in our conversion rate. May hunt us at some point.

kennysville:
Apparently you missed my context. but here it is. Remember that before now once a team scores first against Naija, its distress football from then on. We have soldiered on for 5 games at least and thus far we can say we been good. But this isnt group stage anymore where you have a chance at redemption. I will cite 2 instances where chasing odd goal was not easy to come back from. Naija vs Tunisia in the last afcon. 2nd one is Naija vs ghana in Abuja. We saw how difficult it was for us to put in the 2nd goal. Stakes are higher now in that you get eliminated if you dont take your chances. We know no one has scored against us since, not because they havent tried to score. Complacency is all it takes and boom, the midget floors the giant. Thats when almost stories will start .... if we had, if we had.

No one has scored us yet shouldnt be a yardstick to measure how we are doing. For one, we have improved from being docile to being fighters. We cant have hurriedly forgotten how we lost.... sorry I mean drew 2 World Cup qualifier games. Thank God for injuries to certain individuals, do we think Peseiro would have changed his tactics? He found his team because situation necessitated it.


Thats the point I am raising. Please seek to understand not reply

Orban again bad touch

Nice play orban. But over the bar