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Image123:
No one is inherently good, sorry.

Hahahahahahahaha now take a look at this... he asked you which of the deeds is inherently good and you are referring to individuals... Common bro...seriously?

Hiswordxray:
So are you saying you have never do something bad that you didn't want to do?

I believe i have made my point... The way u comprehend them is now your cup of tea.

The good and the bad i have done are clearly my decisions and i am responsible for them.

Image123:
Okay, so nothing wrong with being good for God's sake. Very good. It makes more sense to be good for something than to be good for nothing.

Lol even if that something is just an idea? Its still same as being good for nothing...

Mind you were talking about reward and punishment tho

Hiswordxray:
Oh! that is why the world is filled with good people.
But wait the world is not filled with good people...

My friend you can't say human nature is good but the other brother is more correct:

Yes everybody instinctively knows what is good and bad
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Oh yes exactly the point i needed pass across... We are all capable of great evil and great good.. it is the choices we make that determines what we do.

Take me for example ; I rape, I steal, I kill, I rob as much i as i want and the much i want is 0 (zero).

Image123:
Are you good for nothing? Do you prefer to be good for nothing? Why should one be good for nothing?

let me quote my self Like i have always tried to tell theists.. Goodness doesnt depend on reward
or punishment.
If you are good because of the promise of heaven, you are only good
because you want reward thereby you are only good for your own gain at
the end.. We call it "Selfishness" and is that real goodness?
If you are good because of the threat of hell, you are only good because
you fear hell therefore you are only good for you own gain at the end saving
your own skin...its called "Selfishness" is that real goodness?
I that try to be good without expecting any reward or hoping to escape
punishment and you that is good cus of reward or fear, Who really is moral?
Real goodness entails being good because you know it is right and want
good to happen. cus you believe the earth and humans deserve goodness.
BE GOOD FOR GOODNESS SAKE, that is the essence of real goodness

Acekidc4:
So u re implying dat u should be good 4 sumtin rite!! So wich means b4 I do good to any1 I must first consider sum kind of rewards waiting 4 me after dat right?

refer him to my first reply to you on this thread

Image123:
i sincerely do not fully understand why anybody would want to be literally good for nothing.

My oga it is called being good for goodness sake

YoungBraniac:
Thanks tho. Buh it's somehow confusing coz am seeing price$ fixed on each part

Ooh sorry... ok google "Avatar the last airbender the search"

Now after reading the above, How can someone not see all these are jewish folklore and myths..

YoungBraniac:
I havn't but would gladly love to read it, if you can share it with me

This is the link to the search... avatar aang, katara, firelord zuko, sokka and azula went on a journey to find Zuko's mum part 1
http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/Previews/21-708 keep on clicking next to get to the next page.

part 2 https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/Previews/21-709

part 3 http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/Previews

YoungBraniac:
I havn't but would gladly love to read it, if you can share it with me

This is the link to THE SEARCH ... avatar aang, katara, firelord zuko, sokka and azula went on a journey to find Zuko's mum part 1
http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/Previews/21-708 keep on clicking next to get to the next page.

part 2 https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/Previews/21-709

part 3 http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/Previews/18-620

Gmajor:
how come aang looks all grown up in the last pic ?

Thats a few years after the war.... read the avatar comics... thats a picture from the RIFT

frank317:
Your funny God rescued you and allow the police men to die... Remind me what u are again... The special one? The one above death?

I know you might have been luck.. Everyone gets lucky once in a while... But if your God saved you why didn't he save the policemen?

One word "SELFISHNESS" He think he is better than those police men that died...

Acekidc4:
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Now to my questions Nairalander's.
(1)Where does Morality comes from?

Our morality comes from our humanity, by contrasting your feelings to that of others you will learn to be good towards all... The human nature is moral and good.

Acekidc4:
(2)What guides your thinking about how to act?

Our intellect guides our thinking and empathy guides our act... Morality do not depend on any book or creed. Those books too are also a product of humans and greatly influenced by their culture.
e.g- You do not need to rush and check in the bible or koran to check if stealing is good or bad, You know taking someone else's thing is not moral.

You do not need the bible or koran to tell you slavery and enslaving is bad even though both clearly never forbids it infact the two books endorsed it in a way.
So our morality stems from our humanity.. our intellect and empathy.

Acekidc4:
(3)Do you choose to act Morally mostly because of the promise of Reward or the threat of Punishment- from GOD or from some other Authority

Like i have always tried to tell theists.. Goodness doesnt depend on reward or punishment.
If you are good because of the promise of heaven, you are only good because you want reward thereby you are only good for your own gain at the end.. We call it "Selfishness" and is that real goodness?

If you are good because of the threat of hell, you are only good because you fear hell therefore you are only good for you own gain at the end saving your own skin...its called "Selfishness" is that real goodness?

I that try to be good without expecting any reward or hoping to escape punishment and you that is good cus of reward or fear, Who really is moral?

Real goodness entails being good because you know it is right and want good to happen. cus you believe the earth and humans deserve goodness.

Acekidc4:
. Do you agree contrary to what some believe, living your life ethically is even more important if you are an Atheist, since if you do something Morally Reprehensible there is no God to forgive you, and the only value your life has is the Choices you make?

The idea of God was brought to make people not to accept responsible for their actions.
I am responsible for all my actions be it good or bad..

And this issue of forgiveness is that not a deceptive concept to rid people of their guilt?
Take for instance i stole from you, i regret my actions and come back to seek your forgiveness and return the item and you forgive thereby you already cleared your mind of it and it doesnt hurt anymore cus you already forgave me cus i came to you.

I stole from you, i regret my actions then i go to my room and mutter some prayers, come and out and say i am forgiven when you that i took your item is still hurting and doesnt even know i did it.

Which is forgiveness and which is moral?

We do not need forgiveness from any deity or gods we only need forgiveness from ourselves and one another..

Acekidc4:
Macof, Sukkot, Tallesty, Mizmycoli, Ymodulus, Seun, Xcapizt, pastorkun, Kay17. Come oh!!! Abeg come contribute!!!

Come and tender your own opinion on this

LordReed:
Where is the other thread?

here it is https://www.nairaland.com/2142469/atheist-terrorist-atheist-murders-3

tartar9:
stopping christainity with a comment are those the people God is powerful enough to kill but can't finish bokoharam who use guns and are truly extinguishing xtianity :-/

Hahahahahaha no be small fin ooo this guys and their desperation shaaa

Lol and yet another thread about the guy...really??

Nigga go and read the other thread

nana228:
don't mind them. Can you imagine?

Why didn't your God stop the whole attack? Those that died, I know their families will be blaming the Devil. If it's good it's God but if it's bad the devil takes the blame for being more powerful than God who they believe is all powerful.

This is real selfishness big time... ur god saved u and left the police men to die, none the less "thank god ooo"

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Who have read the avatar last airbender comic... the promise, the search and the rift?

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So what about the new watchers, why havent they fallen in love now since it is inevitable, now that the girls are more sexier and bustier than ever ...

Oh not again... how many times will you guys post such nonsense here on nairaland... didnt you see similar posts before creating this thread

What dah Bleep are you guys saying... so those police men that lost their lives you are better than them and deserves being saved by a deity and not them?.

Look at the type of mind you people possess...

chuose:
You all of them na hell fire get una.

Hahahaha i agree sir...
Same way the muslims believe their own hell and and greeks believe that tartarus is waiting for you..

Imagine the type of bitterness and evil mind religion have imbedded into you.
Wishing another human eternal torture because they dont share ur beliefs.
My bro it is evil wishing such for a fellow human and i dont wish you same, nobody deserves to burn be it for any baseless belief or anything.

Stop scaring yourself with such evil myths and let your good radiate towards the earth and all in it.

Have a good one bro

Macelliot:
The Jewish tales started after King Solomon's reign.
Pyramids of Egypt, Towel of Babel e.tc, Saying that the ancient biblical Stories are myths proves that You scored capital ZERO in History.

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Lets educate ourselves.
Do you know anything about the pyramids of Egypt?

lol OK you just got emotional...am done sir
Leme not dabble into unecessary argument over nofin wif u.
my post was straight and simple.
Be well

Macelliot:
There are truths in your words, but you can't understand.

Be well bro...

Macelliot:
Stop being provocative. Cool your mind down.
Reading ur comment tell me you are highly provoked.

Me? lolzzz thats a very wrong assumptive assertions.
And can upset some people tho not someone like me.
Provoked at what?
My brother if you have known me in this nairaland you will find i take nothing personal and their is nothing here to get provoked at.
Now back to our talk
I have read many ancient tales about all these ancient civilizations i typed above cus i am fascinated by history.
And i find many fables, myths in them same goes to the jewish tales in the bible... it is riddled with myths like others so they are all ancient story(history) book

Avatar korra and Avatar wan and aang

Macelliot:
Do you believe the Bible is Real or a Myth?
I mean the old testament account of the ancient world to be specific.

The old testament account of the ancient world or the jewish world?
as far as we know the accounts in the bible are all exclusive to the jews.
So when you bring accounts from both Ugarit, chaldeans, sumerians, mayans, babylonians, egyptians that way predates all the account in the said old testament, then we can see if we could grasp a little knowledge of the ancient world.

You pointed to my post and said i contradicted myself ...So just show me the contradictions from my post and not dabble into another/external discussion.

Macelliot:
You said, "you wished to see good in humanity," but you later said that the Issue of earth passing away is unbelievable.
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For the good to come, the Old-things {inperfect earth(suffering)} will pass away and the new earth(promised paradise) will be accomplished....
People do not really understands the concept of Paradise(new life).
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You might not believe me, but the mysteries of this world lies within the Unseen forces of GOOD and EVIL.
Not believing something does not clarifies that they didn't exist. There exist a Mysterious Unseen Supernatural Being.
Think about it, the Good and evil ones dies. If that marks the end of this life just like that without any hope of "life after death", then the law and forces guilding MAN, CONCIENSE, and LIFE is unfair, injustive, and meaningless.
This inperfectness, suffering, death will not endure forever, because At the end of every tunnel, there is a light.

Thanks

In planet earth
We live, we die
We laugh and we cry
We eat and we go hungry
We have hot and cold
Joy and sadness
Up and down
Hope and despair.
In all this we find balance and the essence of living, and none can exist without the other.
If you remove hunger, cold, sadness the balance will fail cus their counterparts cannot exist.
We are mortals and nothing makes life sweeter and more interesting than that.
Each moment priceless and beautiful cus it will never come again.
This is our home, we have not finished living this life and people are here wishing for another.
Let us channel our good to the betterment of our home and not hope to escape to one that can be termed mere figments of our wild imaginations.
Ok you believe in paradise, good for you but as of now you are still on earth, let your good make the earth better so you may leave it a paradise for your children.
I do not care what your beliefs about the earth are; All i know is that you are still on planet earth and the betterment of this world is all our responsibility.
Gaia needs peace.
Gaia do not deserve to be destroyed and neither will it be
Gaia deserve our goodness.
Let us all together rebuild this world that we may share in the days of peace.

Hey avatar fans, lets represent