Christianity Etc › Re: Seven Reasons Against The PRETRIBULATION Rapture by Jokerman(op): 9:30pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
CaptMarvel: The best part of the post tribulation rapture doctrine is that you'll be well prepared to face what is coming for you after you must have been left behind in the Rapture of the Bride of Christ. And that's if you dont feel too disappointed for missing it  Sorry Sir, Can you describe what happens at the Rapture of the saints? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seven Reasons Against The PRETRIBULATION Rapture by Jokerman(op): 9:28pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
MrPRevailer: Sorry I made a mistake. My position has always been:
The wedding of the Lamb in Heaven will happen simultaneously with the Great Tribulation on Earth. It's a simultaneous event.
When it's over, Jesus and his bride will fight the Antichrist. After his defeat, AND Jesus seats on his throne in Jerusalem, that's when rhe great Tribulation saints are resurrected. {REVELATION 20:4-5}
study carefully and patiently. Don't be like okcornel, Mr Fast-finger 1. Where in the bible is the bolded above stated, that the wedding will be going on along the Great tribulation? Because from Matthew 24 from verse 29..... according to the Lord Jesus....., Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.Verse 31, shows that His elect are still on earth during the tribulation, or who are these elect Jesus is talking about? Also, in Revelation 19: 2,7-8; Revelation 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great LovePeddler, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand........... ,,,, 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.We can see that the marriage supper only happens after God had judge the great LovePeddler (Great Babylon), which will around during the antichrist reign...., so will the rapture have happened before the judgment of the Great LovePeddler? 2 How many resurrection are there? Because at the Rapture, those that dead in Christ will rise first (A resurrection)... according to Pre-Trib soldiers, Pre-Trib saints will be resurrected too... Question, How many resurrection are there? Is there a different resurrection for pre tribulation Saints and Post tribulation Saints? Thanks |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 9:14pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: 35 year old Ronaldo that turned juventus from league winners to top 4 contenders ?
Or the ones that almost dragged them to Europa league if not for Napoli to fumble ? Just pray say make Pessi win UCL for PSG, you go kon tell us whether na success or failure  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 8:27pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Seven Reasons Against The PRETRIBULATION Rapture by Jokerman(op): 8:23pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
MrPRevailer: By you stating what you stated, you were unconditionally asserting that the living Saints of the endtimes will not partake in the Wedding of the Bridegroom.
1) Your question is like those believers who are requesting to show where the word "Trinity" or "Rapture" or an exact phrase is in the Bible before they'll believe. Adequate Study coupled with Wisdom is required. Revelation 17:14 and Revelation 19:14 says the Lord is coming with armies (the saints) to war against the Antichrist. The same saints also partake in the Lamb's wedding. .
Revelation 20: 4 tells us the dead saints of the Great tribulations (Foolish virgins) are resurrected AFTER the Antichrist is defeated and the Saints (Armies) have been given thrones.
2) I already stated my position. The wedding is before the Great tribulation. Matthew 25 parable, Revelation 19:7-9
I want to ask you. If your POST-tribulation doctrine is true, then when and where does the wedding of the Lamb take place? Brother, the wedding is after the great tribulation. Remember Great Babylon (the LovePeddler) is judged first before the Wedding of the Lamb to the saints. The defeat of the antichrist happens immediately. See scripture below Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great LovePeddler, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 19:3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 19:4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seven Reasons Against The PRETRIBULATION Rapture by Jokerman(op): 8:12pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
MrPRevailer: Inotherwords, according to your POST-tribulation doctrine, you are asserting that none of the living Saints of the Great tribulation will partake in the wedding of the Bride!
Revelation 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: AND the door was shut. After the door was shut; what happened?? What was the masters reply when they came knocking? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 8:03pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
People wey Bayern crush like biscuits dem go come hear begin make noise  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 7:53pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Lol..... Pessi fans pained everyday...  I love it.... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 6:49pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
This coach should change |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 6:04pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
OJEEMAH: Messi no play with Ansu Fati, Dembele and Braithwaite?
Why you too dey complain sef Messi played with them when he was still young... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 6:03pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Sweetvie: Chelsea fans don full here  Chelsea Arsenal Barcelona Pessi fans...  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 5:55pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Rashford has improved his head accuracy... well when you trian with the best ever header of the ball....  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 5:53pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Goal ball Rashford. Shame to some people now...  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs West Ham United (1 - 0) On 30th Oct 2022 by Jokerman(m): 5:15pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Pesssi dey play with Neymar and Mbappe Ronaldo dey play with Elanga, Scamcho, Rashford... na wa  |
Business › Re: ➜ ➜ ➜ Football (+/Other Sports) Betting Season 16 ➜ ➜ ➜ by Jokerman(m): 5:05pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
What's wrong with Madrid sef?  |
Politics › Re: Video: Tinubu Lands In Akure. Mobbed By Huge Crowd by Jokerman(m): 4:42pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Ekundayo7574: toripe ori iyalaya e tiburu ni  Vote Ogbeni Peter Obi.... Tinubu o mo onaaà o |
Politics › Re: Video: Tinubu Lands In Akure. Mobbed By Huge Crowd by Jokerman(m): 2:20pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Ekundayo7574: oya nah tell your father make e come rule nah oponu omo Ki lon bi e ninu  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 2:01pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
kozmicity:
Counter logical innit?!? Not saying you are one of them oo, but, if Mane's departure couldn't be the reason for Liverpool playing badly but the poor individual performances of the players... How can then Ronaldo's coming be the reason we were playing badly last season and not the poor individual performance of the players?
Y'all should have a rethink of this agenda. You want Pessi fans to be reasonable? |
Politics › Re: Lagos Commercial Bus Drivers To Go On Strike On 31st October 2022 by Jokerman(m): 1:58pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Tareq1105: Hope obidients that are abusing MC Oluomo are reading this facts. Not politics.
The truth is agberos are everywhere in this country with their peculiarities from state to state.
But some people talk as if agbero start and end in Lagos.
Let's always be objective and fair in our comments. No be only Lagos o, agbero full everywhere for this country. Then let the drivers in Anambra go on strike like the Lagos drivers are about to go... abi? |
Career › Re: Doctor Threatens His MD With Resignation Letter. Shares His Reaction. by Jokerman(m): 1:54pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
He's a stupid doctor.
His cup will soon full... people like him don't escape the guillotine |
Celebrities › Re: Diddy Becomes A Billionaire, Replaces Kanye West As The Second Richest Artist by Jokerman(m): 1:49pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Diddy didn't set up biggie smalls... stop spewing trash.
Although we know he isn't reliable |
Politics › Re: Lagos Commercial Bus Drivers To Go On Strike On 31st October 2022 by Jokerman(m): 1:32pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
The Agberos at Oshodi, Mushin, Ketu, Agege are uncountable |
Politics › Re: Lagos Commercial Bus Drivers To Go On Strike On 31st October 2022 by Jokerman(m): 1:29pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
Lol..... Another suffer for commuters  |
Politics › Re: 216 APC Chieftains Defect To PDP In Kebbi by Jokerman(m): 9:22am On Oct 30, 2022 |
This is rubbish. How will emilokan see money to give me now  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Righteousness Only In The Heart? by Jokerman(m): 9:11am On Oct 30, 2022 |
No.
Righteousness is both inward and outward
Only Gof can qualify us to be righteous through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit; 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.. Even the Bible said "No one is righteous... Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Even Jesus confirmed it, Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
However God wants us to strive to attain this righteous; Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. and; 1 Peter 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
And also if you fail to righteous, this is the end; 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Is Your Favourite Apostle In The Bible? by Jokerman(m): 9:09am On Oct 30, 2022 |
Paul |
Christianity Etc › Re: Seven Reasons Against The PRETRIBULATION Rapture by Jokerman(op): 9:08am On Oct 30, 2022 |
Truly.
We need to read the Bible more |
Travel › Re: My Visa Story For Canada by Jokerman(m): 1:07am On Oct 30, 2022 |
Everyone is running out....
It's not fair |
Business › Re: ➜ ➜ ➜ Football (+/Other Sports) Betting Season 16 ➜ ➜ ➜ by Jokerman(m): 4:36pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Casted tickets  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Brighton Vs Chelsea (4 - 1) On 29th October 2022 by Jokerman(m): 3:59pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Lol...  Casted |
Sports › Re: Eto'o Sensationally Claims Anelka Was Better Than Thierry Henry by Jokerman(m): 3:58pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Pinterest: Jokerman rest. Make I regain access to my Snapchat account, I go lecture you wella. Lol.... no dey follow people abuse una selves.. we dey here to enjoy ourselves...  |
Sports › Re: Eto'o Sensationally Claims Anelka Was Better Than Thierry Henry by Jokerman(m): 3:10pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Pinterest: Messi does more than dribbling btw What is it that Messi can do that Ronaldo cannot do? |