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This is a pertinent question barca clowns need to answer...

Mesi just had 4 goals with 0 assists

Now look at the guys that won the Golden boot

James Rodriguez 6 goals 2 assists
Thomas muller 5 goals 3 assists
Neymar 4 goals 1 assist

Now look at an extract from Wikipedia...
"Castrol, the official sponsor of the tournament, released a team of the tournament based on their Castrol Performance Index, which evaluates player performances through statistical data. The team consisted of the players leading each position, with midfielder Toni Kroos ranked as the overall leader.[100] Lionel Messi, the Golden Ball recipient, finished fifth among forwards and was thus not included in the team.[101](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup)

Manuel neuer
Marcos Rojo Matt Hummels Thiago Silva Stefan de vrij

Oscar Toni kroos Philip lahm James Rodriguez

Arjen Robben Thomas muller

So how then did Messi win the golden ball then if not Blatter awarded him to ease the pain of not winning any international trophy??

sssoulw:
The bitter truth is dat, Ronaldo is just a fortuned player

Name any of your barca legends that has
1. More ballondor than Ronaldo
2. More UCL than Ronaldo
3. More asists than Ronaldo
4. More goals than Ronaldo

Ballondor is given by achievements at the end of the season, not Inconsequential stats against getafe and elche... Let's say perhaps Liverpool wins EPL and UCL... Then Salah wins EPL golden boot and then goes on to win AFCON and probably wins golden boot at AFCON... I.e...

Salah
epl
Ucl
AFCON
EPL golden boot
AFCON golden boot
European super cup
FIFA world club cup

Messi
LA liga
Copa del Rey
LA liga golden boot
European golden boot

Ronaldo
Italian serie A
Italian super Copa
Italian golden boot

Now who do you think does deserve the ballondor if it happens like this??

The only way Messi can win ballondor is for him to UCL... Modric winning last year taught us a lot of things

This is no more Blatter when Messi won in 2010 or won fifa golden ball in 2014 when players did better or Ronaldo winning 2013 when Ribery had better achievements

maxwell530:
Bullocks!!!
Mention another player that played more than Messi in 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

James Rodriguez
Thomas muller
Manuel Neuer

Akuruoulo:
u mean the bench warmer MARCELO ?

Oga name at player better than him at Barca... The earlier you concede that Madrid is a greater club than barca, the happier you'd be

Barthley:
Suarez (he don collect highest goal scorer for laliga before which you can't do that with Ronaldo) I'm pretty Sure you remb say MSN break a lot of records while BBC Ronaldo got all the glory.. MSN goals messi had like 65 percent Suarez 20 Neymar 15 but BBC Ronaldo had 80% Bale and Benzema 10/10

Do you know that 3 of UCL highest ever goal scorers have played with Ronaldo, and no striker that has played with Messi is amongst this list??
So if these strikers didn't benefit from playing with Ronaldo, how were they able to be amongst top goal scorers in the UCL list...

Do you know that in Jose second season in Madrid where he had the highest points and goals in Laliga history, that Benz ema and Higuain had more goals that any other player except Messi??

Do you know that Van nistelrooy also won the Golden boat in EPL and UCL three times while playing with Ronaldo?? Do you know that no barca player has ever won the UCL golden boot while playing with Messi?

Barthley:
we're not arguing Ronaldo messi here bro..
But you know that players don't shine with Ronaldo.
But many players don shine with Messi

Name players that have shone with Messi

kendrick93:
Madrid defence is nothing special..
their attacking game won them games not defence..
Ramos,marcelo ,Varane are overrated defensively...
they regularly concede goals

Name any barca defender better than Ramos or Marcelo??

Totogokillme:
Tap-in and jump power merchant

Bub Ronaldo is greater than Ronaldinho, Xavi, Iniesta etc.... Records prove this

sssoulw:
Ronaldo don near world cup final

So world cup final na trophy now abi....

uwajeh:
What about graduates that are paid 20k in private schools that have morw than 25 staffs

So you expect a school that collect fees of 10-12k per term to pay you 30k each??

Yes he is....

TheGoodJoe:
Outclassed Ferguson. Totally outclassed him.

Finito.

Is this why you said he's greater than Ferguson??

TheGoodJoe:
I did not say beat. He outclassed Alex Ferguson hands down in both Champions League finals. ;

So just two games means he's better or greater

TheGoodJoe:
Pep Guardiola leaves Bayern Munich as the best manager in Bundesliga history

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But one thing is pretty clear: Guardiola is the best manager in the history of the Bundesliga.

Nobody in Germany has been able to touch Bayern Munich in Guardiola’s three years at the Allianz Arena. He has three league titles to his name, making him perfect in the Bundesliga, but Guardiola’s dominance cannot be summed up by simply counting trophies. Bayern did so much more than simply finish in first place since the Spaniard took over.

Bayern Munich absolutely throttled the rest of the Bundesliga.

Just look back to Guardiola’s first season at the club. Bayern went undefeated in their first 28 matches under Guardiola and even won 19 straight at one point. Only once did they concede more than one goal in that span and they had a goal difference of 66. By the time they finally lost, on April 5, they had already clinched the league, having become the first team in history to win the Bundesliga in March.
https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/pep-guardiola-leaves-bayern-munich-as-the-best-manager-in-bundesliga-history-050716

Enlighten yourself before saying Guardiola took Bayern Munich backwards. Apart from winning the Champions league, he broke all records with Bayern Munich.

Lol....someone was bought to win UCL, you are talking of winning Bundesliga that any coach can win with Bayern?

TheGoodJoe:
Guardiola is by far a better coach than Alex Ferguson. The same Alex Ferguson Guardiola schooled in two Champions League finals in the art of possession football is who you are saying is better than Guardiola.

If by beating someone is what you term "better", then Mourinho is also better than Ferguson, Wenger, Ancelotti etc.... However being better doesn't mean you are greater... Still on still Ferguson is greater than almost all coaches

Barcelona of cos.... Buh Liverpool is knocking the cancerous club out soon....

Salah for Ballondor

baiaon:
Despite his tremendous hardwork, Sadio Mane is not appreciated at Liverpool fc at all

How is he not appreciated?? Is mane a star like Salah??

Wow... Good for him...

Once Liverpool wins the EPL and UCL, and he gets to AFCON finals, then ballondor is sure for him coz winning UCL automatically he wins Euro super cup and FIFA club cup...

Memberclub:
but most Barca fans were celebrating man city crashing out yesterday.

Lol.. They will soon crash out too against Liverpool

Obainoneandonly:
what about pochentinho record at Tottenham. dat he failed yesterday doesn't mean he won't succeed tomorrow. juventus PSG Bayern are only known for carrying their respective domestic league and will definitely replicate it next season. PEP is a good coach and currently the best in England

Actually pep is one the greatest coaches Buh barca fans over hype him... Imagine them saying he's better than Ferguson

Barcelona fans hyping Guardiola... ... Someone who can't win UCL without messi

TheGoodJoe:
Go and get yourself oriented before going gung-ho spewing false information.

For your information, Barcelona went two seasons without a trophy before Guardiola turned them into the best club team in the history of football.

If you note this bit of information, you will know the man was immense to Barcelona's triumph.

Barca than won the Laliga and UCL 2 years before pep.... If you think of barca as the best club team, what's out Real Madrid??

Cityfirstborn:
pep remains the greatest manager, the 1billion you allege is from 2008, manutd, chelsea, have spent more than 800mill since then. the best team lost, away goal rule should be scrapped from football....this mancity side is the greatest epl team has ever witnessed

Barca fan boys.... Even Zidane is better than pep

Barca fans talking of respect and they don't respect other coaches.... ...

Just accept PEP has performed well in EPL

So Guardiola EPL record...

3 years... 1 EPL, 1 FA cup, 1 carling cup.. £1 billion pounds spent so far..

Barca fans... How far na...?

Never call Guardiola goat in your lives again...

Fergie is... Even Mou is greater

fikiman7000:
Defeats will always come but it does not change the fact that Pep is one of the greatest coach if not the greatest,the Manchester city team only lack ucl experience just like psg

He is one of the greatest. Not the greatest..

maxwell530:
go and re watch how Argentina made it to the World Cup Final in Brazil and why he was named best player of the tournament.

Oga Blatter just dashed Messi that award

nuelsam:
so judging by ur words... Their win today doesn't matter? Lol,admit it.......... U just one of these bitter negroes hating on poch and his team.

Lol... He's a bitter barkan who fails to admit that Guardiola is a local champion without Messi

highcollide:
Another cancer is out of the champions league after juventus. WE LOVE VAR

Wetin Juventus do you.....?? Barca is the next cancer going home

So Guardiola EPL record...

3 years... 1 EPL, 1 FA cup, 1 carling cup.. £1 billion pounds spent so far..

osazsky:
fergie that Webb has been helping,immediately he discovered web had retired and saw the force city was building,he quickly retired,fergie was a wise coward that's what I know abt him

Oga Fergie is better than pep... Case closed