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Logicboy03: Cos humanism makes sense. Simple

Unlike you- you re a christian because of faith and not because christianity is sensible.

You either were born into christianity or you were converted by a skilled liar evangelist

Logicboy03:

I gave you sensible, well thought out reasons and yet you push them aside....do you hate reason n logic?

Logicboy03: Confused about what? Or did you just assume that I'm supporting Plaetton cos I am an atheist?

Ajibollocks?

obadiah777: all that mess you put up there is WORKS. you need FAITH too. its like having eba with no stew. useless

Logicboy03: The human.

Why?

1) I am a humanist- humans first
2) Unlike the old testament God, I believe people can change. He might become useful to human society. I wont smite him
3) A human can contribute to mankind, a dog can not improve the situation of mankind
4) I will become his hero
5) Dog meat is tasty, according to the food connoisseurs

plaetton: @Abijam, Image123 & Obadiah777,

Jesus said in black and white that I posses all the qualities heaven requires. If Ia m standing on the strength of those words of Jesus, who dares to add or contradict Jesus.
Are you guys saying that you mortal opinions, your mortal understandings are somehow superior to Jesus?

Shouldn't Jesus know better than you guys, who are the following the much embellished and distorted versions of his message?

I find it shocking that you would attempt to innocuously repudiate and minimize the golden teachings of Jesus.
Do not forget, Jesus was preaching to everyone, not to Christians.

Logicboy03: Newsflash for Joshthefirst; Humans are animals....

Logicboy03: You do realise that some of your local songs actually praise the pagan gods n way of life?

Joshthefirst: I love local igbo music. Instruments I mean, with a touch of lead.
I also love poetic singing. Rhymes. Skald song. Soul song. They carry a touch of reality with them.

obadiah777: right ? lol. i sooner take bozo the clown more serious than that heathen plaetton. at least bozo knows that he is a clown lmao

Mr Troll: For you to involve design, then you have to state purpose. All we see in the theists explanation for design are merely 'human-centric' explanations...because of we we we humans. The special special homo sapien. Created for blah blah blah with --- version of the anthropomorphic god. E don tire me...

Logicboy03: as compared to your local igbo music in which they knack bottle?

rationalmind: Not at all. You find it everywhere. All religious book say the same thing in different ways. All cult leaders say the same. I don't know much about psychology but I'm sure its one of the basics when it comes to brainwashing people.

FOLYKAZE: christianity in Africa can be define with one word : CHRISTINSANITY

RationalDude: Conflicting accounts of the same event. In the book of Samuel, it is clearly stated that God made David take the census while in Chronicles, Satan is the one that causes David to count the Israelites. God and Satan might actually be one and the same. Maybe Satan is the face that he puts on when he wants to commit evil.

rationalmind: Instead of claiming it through a large crowd at a football stadium, he claims it through unreliable humans as u said

Mr Troll: long time i no show

anyway, i think this thread has been derailed with unnecessary word play but then let me make my simple and probably final contribution...


while the argument for the existence of god/gods is inconclusive, it is quite naive to come such a conclusion based on intuition or logic alone as DS will like us to believe.


mankind has intuited falsely about a lot of things in the past...the cause of lightining, thunderstorms, the Sun etc. it is complex ignorance and escapism to say that just because we see a very complex entity then it is logical to conclude GOD!!!

this position poses more questions than answers and you, DS knows that. you have been asked severally on this forum to explain your concept of God and every month we see new explanations. there are some things the atheist do not know about the universe but it is cowardice and escapist to make fantastic assumptions about them without any proof or scientific evidence whatsoever. saying GOD!!! kills of every avenue for enquiry. it merely states the position we were already assuming. God created the universe? for what? pray tell....

i do not state that there is no god. i simply say that i do not believe in god because i see no scientific evidence for any, and that includes your deist god DeepSight. i could intuit all i want but it all boils down to conclusive scientific evidence. if i cant get that then all i eventually did was wishful thinking....

where is your conclusive irrefutable scientific evidence for GOD!!!? show us and let us examine it. until then, save us your fantastic theories and intuition.

aManFromMars: Remind me to always troll you.

rationalmind: "if u think God is nt real den who r u living for"

If you think God is real, who did people who are dead die for? Lol, don't waste your time. You can't defend what ure trying to defend.

You said certain things happened that are beyond your understanding, therefore, God must have done it. Im not trying to undermine your experience as i don't even know what it is.

But then, that something is beyond your understanding doesn't mean there are no explanations for it. Even if there are no known explanations, you still can't conclude its God.

aManFromMars: A bit. Come on, it's unreasonable to believe that a man who died 2000 years ago lives in you. It's a quite scary statement if you think about it .

What does God know about justice and hope? What does God know about right and wrong? Of what use is hope and God's justice in this world?
Should all mankind wait for the last day to jail a rapist? Should we shut down courts and ask God to preside in all human affairs?
Man needs no God to have a sense of justice or hope

Signs of a mad man. I've met a few on the streets of Port-Harcourt. I wouldn't believe any stories they happen to share with me.But you, you believe one named Jesus is still alive, like a zombie or the undead, walking around, living in people? And you think you aren't being unreasonable.

God's artistry in sacrificing himself to himself so that he can forgive us sins we've not committed, a blank cheque, one that works if only we drop our sense of reasoning and believe in stories of pregnant virgins and fish and bread banquets.

Humble yourself, acknowledge your ignorance, embrace REASON not god . And know the untold joys of walking in freedom.

plaetton: Yes.
So You had better start showing some respect, or risk getting your behind whipped.

plaetton: 5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.

10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden.


OMG!
Am I already a christian without if knowing it?

I am meek,
I am very humble,
i thirst for rigteousness
I I am merciful,
I have a pure heart and a kindred spirit.
I love peace, a peacemaker.
I am often insulted and ridiculed because of my stand on justice and accountability.

Wow!
Jesus says that I am already blessed.
Hurray!

I don't need anything else. No church, perhaps no Bible, No MOG.
I don"t need to pay anyone 10% of my earnings.

I am the salt of the earth.
I neither need to fear hell nor the phantom devourer.

I am free, I am blessed.
And I did it without even going to church for the past 20 yrs or so.

Thanks Deepsight for pointing me in the right direction.

Pastor Alfa: i fink itz high time i cursed whosoeva will call me seltzer again

Pastor Alfa: am d son of the most high. A Revd in a mosque. A owner of two accounts. U kia 2 knw more? *laffs wickedly*

Pastor Alfa: Hulloo o. Wotsgud now?