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Islam › Re: Why Are Muslim Suffering? by Judek2(m): 9:56am On Jan 11, 2012

this clearly shows judek is no better than a liar and slanderer, just as Paul lied against Jesus to take credit for founding christianity, again you being a loyal follower of Paul, you behaved like your master! all the above colored blue all come with a link, to confirm this fatwas go to http:// theislamicworkplace.com/2007/09/22/ reminder-fatwa-issued-against- osama-bin-laden/

An imam from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem vowed to take revenge over “the western dogs” for killing Al-
Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in
Pakistan on Sunday. shocked

In a Youtube video uploaded by the imam he said:

“The western
dogs are rejoicing after killing one of our Islamic lions.

From Al-Aqsa Mosque, where the future caliphate will originate with the help of God, we say to them – the dogs will not rejoice too much for killing the lions. grin

The dogs will remain dogs and the lion, even if he is dead, will remain a lion.” cheesy

The imam then verbally attacked US President Barack Obama saying: “You personally instructed to kill Muslims. You should know that soon you’ll hang together with Bush Junior.” shocked

“We are a nation of billions, a good nation. We’ll teach you about politics and military ways very soon, with god’s help,” he vowed. >>> cool

(Title translated from Arabic) Obituary of Osama bin Laden lion of the Islam from blessed Al-Aqsa Mosque

This is not an everyday run of the mill mosque tucked away in a corner somewhere. It is the Al- Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, the third holiest site in Islam. cool

Islam › Re: Why Are Muslim Suffering? by Judek2(m): 9:12am On Jan 11, 2012

here is a comment by Abu Ismail on Osama's death. According to him and many high ranked Muslims, he is A MARTYR.

[b]And Usama bin Laden—may Allah be pleased with him—may Allah take great mercy upon him. I ask Allah to accept him with the righteous and the martyrs, O Lord. Do not imagine that a martyr is only someone with whom you’ve always agreed throughout your life. If you had a different point of view from him, and then he was killed, this would not negate his martyrdom. Now this man (i.e. bin Laden) had religion wealth, and he was able to spend millions in the path of Allah, and speak the word of truth with power. However, he preferred to sacrifice his flesh, his offspring, his family, and his wealth, and go to the front lines to work in the path of Allah. The most glorious among us are
always the martyrs. May Allah have mercy on him. The testimony which he obtained was a great fortune. I suppose that he—and Allah is his judge now—is among those of whom it is said,
“If only my people
knew,”
Allah-willing. May Allah take great mercy upon him, and I ask Almighty Allah that the Muslims may soon be able to avenge him, as well as all of the martyrs of Islam, such as ‘Abdallah ‘Azam, Ahmad Yasin, and others, O Lord.[/b]

Osama is a righeous man before Allah,and the 72 virgins and young boys are for him in your Paradise.

Also check out this video. Just one out of many.

m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2M2lNpB-wOQ&v=2M2lNpB-wOQ&gl=US

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Cleric Voices Anger Over Pastor Oritsejafor's Comments by Judek2(m): 3:19am On Jan 11, 2012

LagosShia:
sorry we do not believe in intoxicants at all.your wet-dream was refuted:
Quran 37:40-47
"But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah,- For them is a Sustenance determined, Fruits (Delights); and they (shall enjoy) honour and dignity, In Gardens of Felicity, Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity): Round will be passed to them a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness; nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom."

Mohammed had to find more selling points besides virgins, young boys and plenty of water. What good would be of Paradise without rivers of wine for his followers? Wine was an extremely precious commodity in the dry deserts of Arabia where it was rare to find vineyards. Mohammed had a problem here- he had to include wine in his 'Paradise-Package' but how could he include it in the list when Allah had declared intoxicants as sinful. The only way to do this was to somehow claim that the wine in the promised Paradise was not intoxicating and therefore not sinful. Never mind the fact that wine by nature contains alcohol which is intoxicating.

Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised. In it are, rivers of wine,

Koran 37:40-48
But the true servants of God shall be well provided for,, they shall be served with goblet filled at a gushing fountain, white and delicious to those who drink it. It will neither dull their senses nor befuddle them.

Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shalt wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine:

Koran 83:23-26
The righteous will surely dwell in bliss. Reclining upon soft couches they will gaze around them: and in their faces you shall mark the glow of joy. They shall be given a pure wine to drink, securely sealed, whose very dregs are musk, cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Cleric Voices Anger Over Pastor Oritsejafor's Comments by Judek2(m): 2:42am On Jan 11, 2012

LagosShia:
As you can see
Ayo asking his flock to carry weapons will bring about lawlessness which will threaten the safty of all citizens.[b]the attacks of boko haram are not waged in the name of Islam.[/b]Islam is free from their criminality.

I am sick on this Boko Haram defendants.
Are Boko Haram pagans? Or Atheists?.
You once mentioned that they are wahabism or something like that which is small group of Muslims that dont understand Islam. grin

Join them (thats if you are not already a member) cos Heaven is running out of virgins.

your CAN tout is only esclating issues and adding fuel to fire.if christians carry weapons to "defend themselves" and muslims get killed in any attack blamed on christians,do you think muslims will not also come out openly and arm themselves and go after the likes of Ayo and his followers?

Muslims are already attacking openly,so there's no need hiding their identity. Well,as much as you love killing,so also we love living and we must protect ourselves.

Ayo better be quiet.the government should arrest him.he is spreading chaos and anarchy and threatning the rule of law and the authority of the government.Ayo is sounding like an outcast.he should be treated as one.Kiri-Kiri surely got space for him!!!

So he should be arrested because he stated the need of protection? He never said "revenge and bomb down Mosques". So you sound like a bitter Muslim who is not fed up with blood for Allah,so the victims should be vulnerable to your attacks.

there is nothing like [b]"Quranic interpretation" to kill any infidel.Muslims look up to the government for protection.[/b]they are not told to attack innocent people.

You sound like a muslim infidel. Unfortunately, your brothers are taking your own portion in Heaven. The Koran supports every move they make. Boko Haram are royal servants of Allah,and your rantings here doesnt change anythin.

Christianity Etc › Re: Prayer For Nigeria! by Judek2(m): 9:12pm On Jan 10, 2012

[quote author=Idi-Amin link=topic=841872.msg9937229#msg9937229 date=1326224785]Pray Pray Pray!!!
All the prayers you have been praying at for 20 years, where has it gotten you as a nation?

All the gatherings, crusades, I think the world record of crowd at a single event is in Nigeria in a crusade (I'm not sure if it's Rienhard Bonke crusade), fools will gather, pray pray pray, where did it get you? that is my question. No electricity, No fuel, no security, no leaders, no education - that is what years of prayer has gotten u to, and you still say Pray!

A fool is defined as a person who does the same thing over and over and expects a different result.

Countries like Norway, where the atheist party has majority seats in their Parliament and they dont pray like you people - they have a system that works and the people are well taken care of, standard of living is high and they dont have the problems that is drowning you people.

Food for thought, go and think with your head, cos your prayers will not achieve a thing.[/quote]I think as the world still exists,prayer must always exist.

The world is imperfect,so we pray to survive in the imperfect world.

Islam › Re: Why Are Muslim Suffering? by Judek2(m): 8:25pm On Jan 10, 2012

bilms:
when a muslim kill without understanding islam, and he claim to kill by islam instruction.

then the outside world wont take him for killing alone, but they will accuse his religion since he claim he got this instruction from his religion.

so it is the duty of the islamic cummunity to educate people on what jihad means, and also explain the punishment for killing.

if they do these, the entire world will know that the islamic law does not permit killing,

the reason for my post is to say, the islamic community need an open lecturer to the entire muslim of the world on what jihad means and clerufy any doubt from the outside world, to have a better ynderstanding,

example is if the muslim community organize an open lecturer to educate abt jihad, the hausas in kano kaduna and jos wont be killing some1 in the name of islam, if they do after the open lecturer. it will be seen clearly that they kill for another reason not for islam,

You are trying to be sincere but its sincerity based on ignorance.
Osama is a mattr in Islam, muslim clerics recognised him as a just and righeous man in Islam.

It seems that you dont read your holy book.
I will advice you to concentrate on your koran,and very soon,you will be joining your fellas in butchering non-muslims and chanting "Allah akbar". cheesy

Goodluck on your future quest,if yo're not just pretending. cool

Islam › Re: Who Is This Allah? by Judek2(m): 7:08pm On Jan 10, 2012

Sweetnecta:
^^^^^^^^^ Thou shall not kill in your Bibles and nothing else?

He just raised a single verse. And just that verse denounces Muslims Allah(god) to Christians Yahweh(God)

Can you stake losing your religion and reversion into Islam on this? when you put your oath against this,

Oath against what?

Does it explain why almost half of your Koran contains Killing order and injustice against non-muslims?

Even orders to kill an apostate of Islam.

I will InshaAllah tell you things about your Bibles, all the prophets sent to man starting from Adam, then first man, a prophet among his family, then Jesus a slave prophet and messenger of God. Then I will tell you about their prophetic leader, then Allah The God Who created all.

Though shall not kill unjustly; this even disbelievers practice it.

Muslims are always Wolves in Sheep clothing, pretending to be what they are not.
The tradition originated from your Prophet.

Islam › Re: Who Is This Allah? by Judek2(m): 6:56pm On Jan 10, 2012

Allah is the Moon god.
Allah was among the 360 gods worshiped by Mohammads tribe In Mekka,even before Mohammad was born,thus he sellected Allah as the one and supreme god,and then used the Bible to make up the Koran so as to look authentic.

Allah has three daughters, Al Uzza, Al llat and Menat.
Mohammads people and family also worshiped Allah before he was born,thus his father's name was Abdu'allah, the Allah in his name showing how subjective he is to the Moon god.Also the Moon god explains why Islam symbol is the crescent Moon.

ALLAH IS NOT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE

Islam › Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 5:44pm On Jan 10, 2012

plappville:
Ve you not agreed with the above that the bible is given by God? pretend in concluding that it has some undivine words, So how can @LagosShia and the entire Muslims know that which is divine and that which is not divine in the bible? confussion in the air!

Hohohoho
They believe on their hallucination which may point to Mohammad. One verse is currupt and the other is not.

They believe this: not currupt
john:14:16
I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter,that he may abide with you forever.

but Mohammad is dead and rotten tongue

But this is corrupt:
vs 26 of the same chapter.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost,whom the Father will send in my name,he shall teach you all things,and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Unfortunately,he didnt teach them,but confused them. grin

Islam › Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 5:23pm On Jan 10, 2012

LagosShia:
where?

Below,on that Revelation. And if you will read this.

Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Jude 1:4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

I John 4:1-3 also mentions antichrist: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. ”

Literally, an antichrist is a man who is against Christ, that is, against the one and only Christ of God, Jesus. This name sets forth the essence of Antichrist: he is opposed to Christ. He is against Christ personally; he is against Christ’s body, the church; he is against Christ’s Word, Holy Scripture.
But Christ is the revelation and servant of God. The hostility of Antichrist to Christ is, therefore, ultimately enmity against God. He is anti-God. Although he leaves the impression with people that he is motivated by love for the world, by humanitarianism, and although his deeds, superficially considered, seem to support this, it is not love that really moves him, but hatred. The one, main, driving force in all his being and activity is opposition to Christ as God’s Man in the world, hatred for Jesus as God in the flesh. In his opposition, he usurps Jesus’ place and presents himself as the legitimate Christ.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mysterious Ways Of God by Judek2(m): 4:34pm On Jan 10, 2012

Logic Mind:
Dear Ogoamaka99,

My prayer is for the WRATH. I need it. I want it. Can't you understand. If your god can hear you please ask him to send his wrath my way. I don't need his mercy nor any other thing.

eze. 18:23
"Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign LORD. Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live.

Satan is enough for me. I only need the wrath to be complete.

Isaiah 13: 5-11 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his wrath to destroy all the land. Howl for the day of God is at hand. It shall come as destruction from the almighty, Behold the day of the Lord comes, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it, And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogance of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible

The Wrath will not descend on you now, that was why Jesus came and died. He died for your type to enjoy the mercies of God.So,you can live ur life as you like.

But do not die in sin,for then the wrath will descend without mercy

Islam › Re: Islam Quran 666! by Judek2(m): 4:41pm On Jan 09, 2012

This 666 connection is, however, just one component of Bible prophecy pointing to the Middle Eastern Islamic empire as being, geographically, the leopard-bear- lion beast of Revelation 13. The seat of Islam today occupies the same geographical region as the seats of Daniel's successive lion, bear, and leopard kingdom "beasts".

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: [Islamic Empire] for it is the number of a man; [the prophet Mohammed] and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. [666]

", the number of the beast for it is the number of a man , " "GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

There is no greater anti-Christ than Mohammad.
Thank God the Bible warned us before hand.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by Judek2(m): 4:09pm On Jan 09, 2012

[/quote]
Sweetnecta:
@frosbel;^^^ the same gbam will not apply to former political leaders like shagari, buhari, babangida, abacha, abdlSalaam.

you will not forget that they came from a specific tribe, region, ethnic group, their religion must be the number 1 of their identity.

the same are not applying to delta man christian kneeling president [wide brim hat pressing brain down] GEJ.

when it comes to life, different rules must apply to Islam and muslims.

@God2man: the moral of your story above since there is no punch line, is no one told you, since the driver never told anyone, but you have to make it up as Paul made up his Bible.
I think this takes care of your ranting.

[quote author=aletheia link=topic=841450.msg9921665#msg9921665 date=1326050010]^
Why are you afraid of naming names? The political leader in question is the former governor of Nasarawa state. . .the one before the last one. His chauffeur told his family what happened before he died. That's how the story came out.

Christianity Etc › Re: Five Reasons Why Jesus Is Not Merely A Prophet by Judek2(m): 8:13pm On Jan 08, 2012

LagosShia:
he is also an angel (Michael) according to Jehovah's witnesses!!!

one minute he is "god",another minute he is the "begotten son of god",then he is an "angel", na wa O!!!!!!

confusion from exaggeration!!!!

Jesus (as) said:

John 5:30
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me".

You always make mockery of everything.
You may wish to compare these similar verses.

John 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

They are just inseperable. The son is so attached to the Father thus he said, "I and my Father are one"
"I am in my father,and my Father is in me".
So,he does everything just as God does it and will never do seperately cos they are one, thus a very supreme dependence exists.

John 8:16 But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.

Of mine own self -
The Messiah, the Mediator, does nothing without the concurrence and the authority of God. Such is the nature of the union subsisting between them, that he does nothing independently of God. Whatever he does, he does according to the will of God.

So, that verse you presented throws more light on their union as One.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by Judek2(m): 12:18pm On Jan 08, 2012

And I say, you are judging already.

GEJ is a political leader and not a religious leader. Religion in Christianity has nothing to do with politics,so Goodluck must exhibit his political power and whether being a good Christian or not does not include his political stands.
His spiritual life is between him and God.

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Islam › Re: The Fraud of Islam by Judek2(m): 11:39am On Jan 08, 2012

Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]^{They can keep chanting GOD is great while seeing that GOD is not great at all . . . If truly he's great i believe he won't allow the so many evils to be happening .

The GOD must be blamed for everything bad that has been happening to the World in time past and present -- Christians i believe they'll end up with their ignorant very soon -unless u turn from your evil GOD and follow SATAN the true creator of the World .}[/size]

Hohohohoho grin

Many kindda people full this world.

Christianity Etc › Re: . by Judek2(m): 4:51pm On Jan 07, 2012

Dreams and visions is not a bad thing,but some puts threats to our lives.Your dream is realy strong and believable so spiritual battle is needed. You should call your sister,hold hands with her and say this prayer.(not actually word for word,but catch the vital points)

Father, Once I had such big dreams, so much anticipation of the fufture. Now no shimmering horizon beckons me: my days are lack-lustre I see so little of lasting value in the daily round. Where is your plan for my life?
You have told us that without vision, we perish. So, Father in heaven, knowing that I can ask You to deposit in my mind and heart that particular dream, the special vision You have for my life.
And along with the dream, will You give me whatever greaces, parience, and stamina it takes to see the dream through to fruition? I sense that may involve adventrues I have not bargained for.
But I want to trust You enough to follow even if you lead along new paths. I admit to liking some of my ruts. But I know that habit patterns that seem cosy nests from the inside, from Your vantage point may be prison cells. Lord, if you break down any prisons of mine before I can see the stars and catch the vision, then, Lord, begin the process now. In joyous expectation. Amen.

After saying this prayer silently with your sister, you should go to a very good pastor and about four other church members,pray together for her and you should also fast with her.
God promised his children three score and ten years to live and by grace,more.Untimely death is not our portion. Your sister shall not die.

Also,some dreams are attack by demons to put fear and tremblings in us, to cancel any spirit of bad dreams,read these verses before you sleep and pray too.

Leviticus 26:6 ‘I will give peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and no one will make you afraid;

Psalm 121 vs 7: You will lie down, with no one to make you afraid …” … The LORD shall preserve you from all evil: he shall preserve your soul.

Blood of Jesus, appear to every power calling my name for evil through dreams.
I paralyse every dream attacks with the blood of Jesus.
I confront every evil power appearing to me in the dreams with the blood of Jesus Christ. Fire of God, enveop me as I lie down to sleep, in Jesus name.
My Guardian angels, encamp around me as I lie down to sleep in Jesus name.
O God that asnwereth by fire, turn me into a fire that cannot be tounched in Jesus name. Amen.

Then sleep and wake up like a new born Baby. cool

Islam › Re: What Will Muhammad Do? by Judek2(m): 7:54am On Jan 07, 2012

Sweetnecta:
^^^^ Was Jesus sinless?

Why didn't he cast the first stone, just to demonstrate that he was sinless, since that is what the christian says he was, even though he brought war, not peace, calling people foolish when that leads the one who says "fool" to hell to be punished for saying it.

@Sweetnecta, your guts is making fun of you. So This is what you have to come up with?
Come on,you can beat your guts,stop raising silly and useless issues here,its embarrasing.

Christianity Etc › Re: The End Of Arab Christianity. by Judek2(op): 6:35am On Jan 07, 2012

www.christianpost.com/news/arab-spring-uprisings-to-put-christians-in-greater-jeopardy-64861/

Christians are fleeing these countries in thousands, it is obvious how dominant muslims in the middle east oppress and persecute christians at every point.
The US troops may not have played a major role in protecting the Arab Christians rather played more on resolving the crises which has arised since 2003.
The outcry of the troop withdrawal has put more threats on christians as the situation will only get worse.

This is always the way for Muslims,"domination". Always wanting to have the upper hand and trigger fear and opression expecially on Christians.
This is what Boko Haram want in Nigeria.

Elsewhere, in Gaza, the 3,000 Christians who remain are subjected to persecution and death. Meanwhile, every year some 1,000 Palestinian Christians are leaving their citadel Bethlehem. In a recent Christmas celebration hosted by the Fatah movement, Mohammad Shtayyeh, a central committee member, appealed to Christians to “remain in the land.”

How can they remain when there is no more safety assurance,even from the Government.
Let the Muslims now live in ~~piss~~ peace among themselves.

Christianity Etc › The End Of Arab Christianity. by Judek2(op): 8:38pm On Jan 06, 2012

Welcome to a Christians-free Middle East. Arab Christianity is near its extinction everywhere.

“Christianity in Iraq could be eradicated in our lifetime,partially as a result of the US troop withdrawal,” declared Leonard Leo, chairman of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom.

Up to 900,000 Christians already fled the country since 2003, according to a recent study by Minority Rights Group International. Benjamin Sleiman, archbishop of Baghdad, also spoke of “the extinction of Christianity in the Middle East.”

In Egypt, 100,000 Christians already left the country after Hosni Mubarak’s fall earlier this year. The Egyptian Union of Human Rights is denouncing this “mass exodus.”
This week Egyptian authorities arrested Gamal Massoud, a Coptic Christian student accused of posting a drawing of Islam’s prophet on Facebook that triggered two days of violence in southern Egypt; meanwhile, Muslims were attacking Massoud’s house and chanting “Allahu akbar” or “God
is Great.”

In Syria, the major Christian leaders are supporting Bashar Assad’s bloodbath, fearing an Islamic takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood. The Catholic Patriarch of Lebanon, Bechara Rai, blessed Assad as a “reformer” while Greek-Orthodox Bishop Louqa al-houri
organized ecumenical shows to support the regime.

For the first time in Syrian history, the current Minister of Defense, Dawud Rajha, is a Christian. Yet this is not a sign of power, but rather, of desperation. Adnan al-Aroor, the Syrian sheikh who has become the religious voice of the uprising against Assad, is urging his followers to “tear apart, chop up and feed” the meat of Christian supporters of the regime “to the dogs.”

The Syrian puppets in Lebanon waged a campaign of terror against Lebanon’s Christians starting in 2005. Christian politicians and journalists were assassinated and bombs detonated in Christian areas.

Elsewhere, in Gaza, the 3,000 Christians who remain are subjected to persecution and death. Meanwhile, every year some 1,000 Palestinian Christians are leaving their citadel Bethlehem. In a recent Christmas celebration hosted by the Fatah movement, Mohammad Shtayyeh, a central committee member, appealed to Christians to “remain
in the land.”

http://www.facebook.cufi.org/2012/01/op-ed-the-end-of-arab-christianity/

Islam › Re: Would Prophet Muhammad Have Supported Boko Haram And Their Likes? by Judek2(m): 3:44pm On Jan 06, 2012

IbroSaunks:
Judek did you also read the tafseer of those verses

Will the Tafsir prove it opposite? Those are commands given,and any Tafsir made can only prove or try to twist the facts,as the messages are plain and clear.

Islam › Re: What Will Muhammad Do? by Judek2(m): 3:19pm On Jan 06, 2012

ivoice247:
How else do you remove evil people or evil acts from the land? Any body that kills (except for self-defense or mistake) MUST be killed(except the victim grants forgiveness). According to islam, all bombers & terrorists must be killed if they kill christians (or non-muslims) except the non-muslims or christians attack them first and even so, you can only kill the perpetrator themselves and not their families, or brothers or friends or bystanders. And there are many quotes in the quran that states this fact.

So if you have a better punishment for the rapists, murderers, bomb blasters, terrorists etc etc other than to KILL them, then let us know

Thats exactly my point, [size=30pt]KILL ALL OF THEM[/size] grin

Now, this is what Jesus said to them,Any among you who has not sinned,let him cast the first stone .They all went away disappointed. cheesy

when sinners kills sinners, who is the Devil shocked

!!?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible And How God Himself "deceived" His People And Led Them "Astray"! by Judek2(m): 3:03pm On Jan 06, 2012

My arguements are based on facts which can be proved without twisting. You argues without facts and much twisting. Ofcoarse you can always ignore and dodge them,(as you are doing now) grin

So if I make any blind arguements, I invite you to prove me wrong with facts, and stop diverting any of them.

Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by Judek2(m): 2:12pm On Jan 06, 2012

@Lagoshia, those verses I presented is just to throw more lights on yours,and make it clearer to your understanding. .no contradictions atall.
Talking about contradictions, ya Koran defines it and added to it more than you can back it up.But I dont wanna go into details cos I just wanna end my posts here in a light, good manner. cool

@demmy, I dont consider replying you,cos its kindda waste. You just,read and claim, then ask a hillarious question that gets someone bruised up. sad

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible And How God Himself "deceived" His People And Led Them "Astray"! by Judek2(m): 7:16am On Jan 05, 2012

LagosShia:
^^^^^^^^^^^

how was the new year? wishing a less ignorant year ahead!

Ogaga4Luv:

What fellowship has darkness with light?

The religions of devil(darkness) allies and rebel against the religion of Christ(light). But darkness cannot comprehend.
JESUS IS DA GREATEST.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible And How God Himself "deceived" His People And Led Them "Astray"! by Judek2(m): 7:10am On Jan 05, 2012

LagosShia:
OMG!

"the three were present during creation"!!! "Judek" is practicing what he has been taught best to do:manipulation the bible!!!

I can never manipulate the word of God. You who is against it manipulates it. You know nothing about the Trinity,so no need arguing further.

there are no palm trees in the middle east.the word in arabic talks of date palm.wherever you got that translation for,speaks of hanky-panky like you just did with your bible!

But Mohammad was so Ignorant that he didnt know that. I wrote what is in your Koran.

no! the bible describe Jesus as "son of David".but he was not the son of David!!!the bible also says he was son of Joseph.and you believe believe he is the son of God.how many fathers can one man have?

He is the Son of God.
David was his ancestor,and Joseph his earthly father,just as Mary his earthly Mother. But Jesus is not of the world.

but you dont have to lie the Quran say she is said to be "sister of Moses".now tell us [B]why the Quran describes her as "sister of Aron" and not "sister of Moses"?[/b]

Please tell me grin

if you call that blindly "blunder",then should i be as stu.pid as you and claim that the new testament is wrong and Mary was actually the literal sister of Moses and Aron (as)?

What connection has Mary with Aron? Was her husband from lineage of Moses and she also.
The difference is clear, Jesus was described as son of his ancestor David,and not the brother of any ancestor. SON can be used as lineage connection but Brother has them of the same father,which are individually called son,or sons.

If he has said,"daughter of Aeron" it would have been better as we will be left argueing of her lineage connection with Aron,the brother of Moses which was a lineage of her husband Joseph.

Kudos on ya attempt to wipe ya Prophets aass grin

Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible And How God Himself "deceived" His People And Led Them "Astray"! by Judek2(m): 7:05am On Jan 05, 2012

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Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by Judek2(m): 6:22am On Jan 05, 2012

LagosShia:
you either understand that verse as presenting figurative expressions and titles or you contradict yourself,the bible and "the child that was born" that you hold as a literal small god!!!

The verse is as clear as crystal. He shall be called "The Mighty God"
and Jesus said, "My father worketh hitherto,and I work."
Unless you can also twist the prophesy of Christ as you always do.

Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

john 14:6
I am the way,the truth and the life:no man cometh unto the father but by me.
7 if ye had known me,ye should know my Father also: and from henceforth,ye know him,and have seen him

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

jhn 1:1
In the begining was the word(Jesus),and the word(Jesus) was with God, and the word (Jesus) was God.
2)the Same(Jesus) was in the begining with God.
3)And all things was made by him(Jesus):and without him was not anything made that was made.
10)He(Jesus) was in the world,and the world was made by him(Jesus) and the world knew him not.
12)But as many as receiveth him(Jesus),to them gave he the power to become sons of God,even to them that believe in his name.
14) And the word(Jesus) was made flesh, and dwelt among us.

This verse states why xtians no longer follow the law but Christ.
17) And of his fullness have all we recieved,and grace for grace.
18)for the law was given by Moses,but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
We dont follow the law but grace and truth by Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One

jn 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled, ye believe in God,believe also in me.
11) Believe me that 1 am in the Father,and the Father in me.

[qunte]
Mark 12:28-29
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

[/quote]Jhn 17:3
And this is life eternal,that they might know thee,the only true God,and Jesus Christ,whom thou hath sent.
28. I come forth from the Father,and am come into the world,again,I leave the world and go to the father

[quote]John 5:30
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

Jhn 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, Verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: For what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Jesus will judge the world on the last day.
Jn:5:21
For the Father judgeth no man,but hath committed all judgement unto the Son

Jesus is worthy of our worship.

Jn 5:23
That all men should honour the son, even as they honour the father.He that honoreth not the son honoureth not the father which hath sent him.

Mohammad (the man from Saudi Arabia) know nothing about Jesus Christ. Isaiah of the old called him "The Mighty God" David called him "Lord", Moses wished to see him face to face,Jesus said "I AM" the word attributed to God in the old tastaments. All the Prophets of the old tastaments spoke of him, Herod was afraid of the Prophesies and tried to kill him.

Jesus is not Isa of the Koran,
ONLY HIM CAN SAVE YOU, HE HAS THE KEY TO HEAVEN AND EARTH.

Islam › Re: What Islam Really Teaches About Allah And Jesus by Judek2(m): 4:07am On Jan 05, 2012

LagosShia:
Ezekiel,Isaiah,Daniel,Elijah,Elisha e.t.c are all from the children of Israel.so if being a son of Israel is the condition for identifying who Moses was referring to,then they are many who were and also had more similarities with Moses than Jesus did.

I will take my time,(not to convince you,cos your heart is so hard to admit the truth, but to educate you.) This is not the first time you'v heard this,and it wont be the last,but you can follow your doubts.

Deut.18:15

The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee,of thy brethren,like unto me;[/b]unto him ye shall haerken.

Note in verse 16, Moses complained that he has longed for direct sign from God,and he always wished to see him face to face. he said:
[b]"Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God,neither let me see this great fire any more,that I die not.

The above were happening at the time Moses was taking the children of Isreal to the promised land.
Isreal were God's people,so he promised Moses of another prophet like unto him (note,Moses was an Isrealite).But this one shall be above all the prophets,who will extablish his final covenant with the people.

I will raise them a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

The living faith translation made it simple for those who dont know where Moses was from,so it states, I will raise them a Prophet among their fellow Isrealites.

Jesus said,in reference to that verse,

John 12:49
For I have not spoken of myselve but the Father which sent me,he gave me a commandment,what I should say,and what I should speak.
This proves the prophesy And will put my words into his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command

he also said in reference to Moses complaints, that your fathers had longed so much to see this day. as Moses would have been so glad to see God face to face and hear him speak in fulfillment of that Prophesy.

look up also
Acts 3:22
For Moses truely said unto the Fathers,A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me: he shall ye hear all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

How can someone relate that Prophesy (which has been fulfiled and recorded) to a man who came from Saudi Arabia about thousands years after. How can God promise The Isrealites a prophet from Saudi Arabia,and the Prophet did not surface untill after thousands of years passed.that statement from among their Brethren should have cleared your doubts,but you argues blindly.

Mohammad himself did not claim any Prophesy as he should have boldly claimed that he was the one talked about,as Jesus always claims. it would have been a little case for dialogue.
@Lagoshia,this is one of the most insane claims by Muslims.
Anyway, Mohammad was never in any little sense of it portrain in any of those verses.

isn't Jesus your "mighty god"? why are you degrading your "god" to the position of men?

I and my Father are One.
Before Abraham was born, I am

He existed before Abraham,making him One with God.

Islam › Re: Would Prophet Muhammad Have Supported Boko Haram And Their Likes? by Judek2(m): 5:29pm On Jan 04, 2012

LagosShia:
if Muhammad (sa) would be overjoyed,then we too are!!!

we are pleased with what pleases him and displeased with what displeases him!!!

so take it as you like,by Muhammad (sa) we stand,by him we live and for him we die!!!

Who says that you are not joyed? Even if you are not, you are disobeying ya Prophet. I just provided a link of his commandments to you,or isnt it his commands?

This is 21st century, some muslims hide under the cloak of pretence, But Boko Haram are no pretenders but royal servants cool

Islam › Re: The Fraud of Islam by Judek2(m): 4:08am On Jan 04, 2012

First,let me make this clear.

Beware of religions that appear to be good

Warning about Satan's ministers appearing to be righteous: 2Corinthians 11:14,15, "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Beware of angels giving revelations contrary to God's Word:

Another thing I'd like to point out is that the Mormon's "revelation" came from an angel (a fallen angel by the name of Moroni),and Islams "revelation" came from an angel (Gabriel-Gibril) and in Galatians 1:8 it directly warns us against an angel giving us a revelation that doesn't line up with God's Word,
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."

In the end days, there will be many who fall into deceiving religions:

1 Timothy 4:1, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." If you look up seducing in the Greek for that verse, it means deceiving. Deceiving means to appear to be
true, yet it's false, or to give a false impression. This verse is talking about religions that appear to be right, but don't lead a person down the path to heaven. For example, Mormonism and Islam is the kind of religion they are talking about here, because it 'seems right' and yet it is so far off the track.
Satan works in different ways in different religions.

Since God has warned me earlier, I have nothing to fear about Islam because it made Gods warnings to be true.
A good difference b/W Islam and Mormon is that they dont force Mormonism on you. cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Ishmael Or Isaac? The Koran Or The Bible? by Judek2(m): 10:43pm On Jan 03, 2012

LagosShia:
[size=18pt]ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE,JESUS IS IN HELL (astaghfirullah)!!![/size]

THE IRONY OF IT ALL:

Mathew 23:17
"You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred"?

Mathew 5:22
"But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire".

Luke 12:20
"But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?'

What is wrong in calling a fool, a fool? They behaves like fools,and that should even be their formal names

By the way, I think you dont know to rebuke and to insult means. to rebuke Satan,you must call him Satan, remember Peter on the last supper.

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