glowithdan: Different stories for different folks! It's simple, life in the UK is not a bed of roses! You pay as tax almost everything you work hard for; and one thing is for sure- YOU MAKE NOTHING AT THE END!!!
Healthcare is certain, but not free; Power is constant, but not free; road network is perfect, but 80% of the people still fail the driving test (the tax you pay on your car is enough to start a business back home; talk of accommodation, a three bed apartment goes for 1500-2700 pounds per month (calculate those figures for two years, and evaluate the cost of erecting a three bed bungalow in Nigeria); You bye a TV set, you pay tax on it (even if you get any TV station or not); paying almost 100 pounds every month on "council" tax for your home, is definitely no child's play either, I can go on and on.
Yes, someone did say something about security. In Nigeria, the rule of law is lacking totally, while in the UK, abuse to privileges and the likes is very minimal.
And to cap it up, with your black face and racial background, its almost impossible to secure a permanent job in the UK!
It's simple as those!!!
Do you get those free in Nigeria?
With ur black face in Nigeria are you guaranteed a job?
morpheus24: I too was in Harare on an assignment a few years back, came across a number of Nigerians hiding out in Zim waiting to cross into SA. Many of them lamenting how they prefered Zim to Nigeria anyday. Imagine that! A supposed hellhole where everyone is trying to escape from. If your last visit was 2003 . You need to update your travels then.
Where did this happen specifically?. What border crossing? How many were killed again? you must be speaking of them boer farmers who were man handling border jumpers when they caught them running through theri farmlands and setting local workers and villagers on the zims.
There are approximately 11 milliion Zims living in Zimbabwe. With the mounting scarcity of jobs and unemployment rates of 26% in SA, about 1/3rd of that Zim population reside inside of SA and [b]less than 0.5% of that population have been butchered by the SA's due to conflicts and pressures on job allocations and welfare distributions during Mbeki's tenure extending into Zuma's time. [/b]Many zimbaweans have been giving legal status to reside and work in SA despite these moounting social n economic pressures post the may 2008 riots
I'd say that s a pretty good " keeper thy neighbour" policy don't you think
I thought u claimed that Mbeki do a wonderful job in the case of Zim? How can they be butchered trying to cross into a ''neighbouring country''? Mbeki was the only leader in Southern Africa who stood strongly behind Mugabe while ordinary Zims are being killed in and outside Zim, South Africans took their anger on Zims cos they are suffering from Mbeki's lack of action in Zim. Only you that i have heard singing the praises of somebody who looked the other way while pple are being tortured to death.
Zims who got a stay in SA went through hell . . .in the same Mbeki's brotherly country?
morpheus24: Of course it was donated. Thats how you get access to the markets in the first place. Mbekis's only error during that whole debacle was his lack of knowledge concering the relationship between HIV and AIDS fueled by alternate scientists and information he felt was being misconstrued by so called 'concerned' peoples with suspect motives.
The reason behind his reluctance to accept overwhelming statistical data was again because of the mounting pressures by Phamarceutical companies on his government to accept what ever "DATA" was coming from their side. A common tactic used by such entities to gain access to markets before any such "FREE" drug negotiations were done by mostly NGO's Tell me anywhere in Africa where thats a likely scenario. A leader relinqushing power because he was called upon to do so. You don't find that quite odd? I doubt you've ever been to Harare, talk less of anywhere in southern africa to make such comments in comparsion to Nigeria. You must picture hoards of refugees jumping fences and running amok on the borders. I urge you to get on a plane and go see it for yourself.
Ps. on all my trips to South Africa, since May 2008 the Zimbaweans are pretty much intergrated into the cities and townships, gettig housing and stipends, making a living in pretty much every sector you can think of down there. This your "hunted" down rubbish is media hype. Again Get on a plane go see for yourself insteadof regurgitating rubbish you are seeing on T.V. and reading on wikipedia. See Video [flash=400,200] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEec3IjVnuM&feature=related[/flash]Read up on Zimbabwe before making some baseless arguments.
Before you starting throwing unnecessary insult at me let me tell you that i went to Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe was pretty good, went to school there and was there when Zimbabwe went down in any possible way you could think of, i went to Zim Jan 1999 and left Sept 2003, we did our shopping in SA then as many shops in Zim are empty, the sanction started biting, no foreign currency to import anything, electricity and water rationalised, no fuel, Libya was the only country in Africa that came to their rescue then, Zimbabwe export beef to Libya and get the much needed foreign currency but that did not last long as Gaddafi demanded some land for exchange for foreign currency which Mugabe refused.
Where were Mbeki then? Singapore and China were other countries that Mugabe ran to for help.
Yes some Zimbabweans were killed trying to enter SA illegally, many who managed to get in were deported and beaten badly by South Africans. They blamed Mbeki for backing Mugabe while he was busy killing MDC members with the help of war veterans and Green Boys (thugs). Mbeki was helpless, hopeless about Zim issue and Mugabe did not listen to him one bit.
morpheus24: Thats what the going "western" intepretation of the story is. Those with insight would realize that it was a counter tactic to create an atmosphere were an epidemic would not be hijacked for profit reasons.
Its the "zimbabwe was a bread basket" story scenario again. Zimbabwe is not going down any drain. Its a test case for and alternate approach to western intevention in Africa. Only time will tell what becomes of her.
Meanwhile this softy softy leader's country has absorbed close to 4 million Zimbabwean refugees. A consequence of his so called inaction. He must be really daft not to know that Zimbabwe would adversly affect his own country in terms of inflows of refugess and migrants. Wonder why he allowed that to happen?
He's been whining and dining with western powers long before you were born. I would wager he knows a little more about them than you profess. He's always known the wests antics and has played to their weaknesses for the long term benefit of his country.
The only known siting African president to step down for the betterment of his people and country.
This is strange, what Western interpretation? The cause of HIV or the cure of HIV? The same ''west'' donated more FREE HIV drug to African countries than any other Asian and African country, where did you think that those antiretroviral drugs being distributed in many African countries including Nigeria is coming from? How many Africa countries can afford to give free drug to their citizens?
Mbeki did not resign of his own will, he was called back by ANC because of corruption allegation against him and his miserable attempt to get Zuma jailed for some political reasons.
Zimbabwe went down the drain and still trying to recover from it, his softy softy approach did not work, some Zimbabweans died trying to cross to SA, SA put up barbed wired fence at Zim/SA border to stop Zimbabweans crossing, those who managed to pay smugglers to get into SA were hunted down by angry South Africans who accused them of increasing crime rate and taking their jobs.
Many Zimbabweans are still surviving on food donated by the West, Zimbabwean currency (Zim-dollar) is worthless hence the use of U.S dollar as they official currency now.
Why did SA cut-off electricity to Zimbabwe when they couldn't afford to pay? This was during Mbeki's time in office. Tell me how he helped Zimbabwe.
Horus: All the womans filed no complaint with anyone at the time of the alleged intimate assault. They did not come forward during Cain's senatorial campaign. Why they are coming forward only today?. I wonder how much they got payed and by who?
Whoever is paying them is doing it at the right time, this is the only time they will receive press attention. As long as its true and not false allegation then i don't care when they decided to speak out
mymadam: Yes, you're right, man-loving-men abound all over the world. Nigeria is no exception. Go to boarding schools, both boys & girls. Now, the question is; Is a man-lover relationship bad because (1) 'Most religions are against it?' (2) 'The 'hygiene involved', you know, the configuration is kinda negative?' (3) 'Is it bad because of our culture?'. Please let us be frank in our responses, maybe we can contribute our quota to the positive development of our great nation, Nigeria! The young ones are watching, listening and looking for leadership. GOD BLESS NIGERIA.
Personally everything is wrong with it, that said, i wouldn't kill people who engage in it, for me . . .its no no no
mymadam: "What shall I give unto The Lord, all I have to say is thank You Lord". GREEN, WHITE, GREEN!
Lets not sound as if Nigerians are not engaging in same-[i]se[/i]x practices , they do and its not hard to find, our press are not good at reporting it, there are plenty of G-a-y and Lebs in Nigeria. Its every where not just in the UK.
morpheus24: Shows how much you know about southern African politics. That guy protected his country against a swamp of profiteers trying to make money from the Aids epidemic inthe country not to talk of having him betray his neighbours Zimbabwe by calling them out in the public.
Mbeki is about the only President with a track record of doing something in Southern Africa.
PS Regionally speaking wetin concern Mbeki with West African regional affairs when the the outcome presents minimal interference with the southern regions affairs. Did Ivory Coast invest anything in South Africa.
Please!!
Mbeki played down the cause of Aids & HIV in SA and did not make it a priority hence the massive increase in number of pple affected. He watched with his softy softy approach while Zimbabwe went down the drain, Zimbabweans will not forgive him for that, visit after visit to Zimbabwe yield no significant result.
He dined and wined with the same Western power while in office and did not speak out against them, now he is out of office he suddenly realised that the West is playing a negative role in Africa. rubbish.
Nothing new here, it has being happening for ages, even in Nigeria, Priest sleep with young boys, i noticed that as far back as 1998 in Enugu, its an open secret.
[quote author=life_style link=topic=797378.msg9504647#msg9504647 date=1320740669]Western world!!!! [/quote]It happens in Nigeria more just that nobody reports it.
velo10: In the NATO-backed Libyan unrest - close to 100,000 people died. Gaddafi was a murderer bla bla bla. But his forces killed only about 200 ARMED protesters. Which country would see armed protesters and use batons and shields against them. If you're still of the thinking that the rebels were backed by NATO cos of freedom, unfortunately people like you can be sold off easily.
In the Iraqi issue, Saddam was wicked bla bla bla. But he didn't kill up to 2000 people. But the Iraqi invasion cost Iraq miniumum of 700,000 deaths check the internet for facts. Are you hearing? How can you support a cause that led to the deaths of close to a million people like you and me. You're supporting US cos you are alive abi? Thank God you weren't born an Iraqi and have to lose something in the cause of an unnecessary war.
Please spare me that bullshit about communism being a silly idea. Every nation should choose its course, that's what's makes a nation sovereign. Why didn't US invade communist Russia then because of communism or why don't they try fight North Korea now? At the end they were successful right? I wonder why you keep supporting murderers in the name of selfish interest. Well you're not affected that's why you can talk.
How many Kurds did Saddam gassed to death in 1988?
panafrican: Mbeki should shut up for another reason. He failed in Cote d'ivoire, he was the president of south africa with all the military power of this country when Jacques CHirac bypassed him to bomb Cote d'ivoire's air force and destroy it. Not only that Chirac ordered french troops to use helicopters gunships against civilians killing more than 100 and wounding more than 1600 in Abidjan. What did Mbeki do? in 2005 he pressed Gbagbo to sign an agreement in pretoria allowing french mercenary Allassane ouattara to get in the race without asking the french rebels to lay down arms for the sake of free and fair elections.The consequence of this "agreement" was dire for Cote d'Ivoire in 2010-2011.
He did all that while in power, now he is out he has the gut to start moaning about the West, typical of boneless African leaders.
cuteprinz: Hey guys, i applied for the US DIVERSITY VISA that ended on the 6th of November,2011. I got an e-mail on mon 7th November from a supposed U.S DEPT OF STATES claiming that i am one of the 50,000 winners that have been selected for the PERMANENT RESIDENT CARD PROGRAM. I was also asked to pay $860 as the processing fee via WESTERN UNION within 72hrs, Has anyone gotten this kinda email too? I think its a scam.
That is all its, s[i]tup[/i]id scam in that matter.
Elaineh: Thanks for your advice Omo_Tier! I'm 100% confident that I can resolve the initial concerns that were raised with the first application. Just to confirm,[b] you think I'm better off re-applying than appealing? [/b]Does the appeals process really take long? Me, I was under the impression that it only takes long if the ECO upholds the initial decision and forwards your appeal to the UK for a court hearing?!
Yes you are better of re-applying than going through the lengthy appeal process. You will be looking at 4months at least before you come closer to resolving the issue.
enuose: thank you am not bold,u want to spoil d skool as u hv done to the skools that are suspended and is not university is just a college ok thank you sir
I guess that is what the school told you? If you really believed that then u will learn the hard way by the time u get to London. These private colleges spoil their names and not students, students are actually victims.
silvertuke: Difference between White Babes and Naija Babes.
I like white Babes for some reasons, due to my experience. I understand that
1 White Babes don’t pretend, if they like you dey open up straight. But Naija Babes hardly open up to a guy about their feelings and if a guy they like is asking them out, instead them go agree for once, Dey will be acting like they don’t care, them go dey form say them dey play hard to get, watin you dey play hard to get for? Agree for am if you like am Simple.
2 White Babes don’t wait for their guys to take them out, if they want to go outing dey go outing with their guys and take responsibilities of everything. But Naija always waiting for their guys to take them out because they don’t want to spend their money even if dey have.
3 White Babes don’t get attracted to you because of your materialistic things or money, but Naija babes can easily be attracted to you because of your materialistic things or money.
4 White Babes don’t pretend. Like saying this is the first time I am doing this, they kindly tell you how dey want you to do it, in a way that dey will enjoy it to the fullest. But Naija Babes will pretend and lie. They will tell you to please take it easy that this is their first time or it’s been so long they have done it. Meanwhile them be Chairlady for the matter sooo.
5 White Babes don't depend on their guys, But Naija Babes always depend on their Guys not all shall.
6 White Babes don't compete, unlike Naija Babes My friend has a Black Berry I also need one.
7 White Babes don't save guys numbers with female names just like Naija Babes do.
Babes sorry but I am saying this due to my Experience, I still Love my Naija babes wella to the fullest.
taskgirl: I just found out that trying to change your opinion about things you have not seen for your self is just a waste of my personal time. It is not like you know the bible. If i do find the time and energy to tell you some things with bible verses to go along, you would be very much amazed. But due to the fact that your I.Q might be less than expected i wont bother. Do you even know what you are saying? How can ask 'Where in the bible is it written that one must not smoke and where does it say how a man of GOD should live?'. It just goes to show that spiritual you are close to being daft. But when you decide to stop wallowing in your stupidity let me know. But for now, keep living silly lives and calling it being opinionated and free to do as please.!
. . . and you have IQ at all? Poor vulnerable girls like you being used by new generation pastors, you are hunting for hubby, when you failed to get one u move to another new church to start again.
cap28: do you live in the real world or a fantasy one?
why is it that the average american or european know fully well that they're govts are liars, murderers and hypocrites and yet you who claim to live in the west are still wrapped up in disney world - WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN?
here you have an american explaining in a very matter of fact way why gadaffi was removed and you still sit here spewing the western corporate media's garbage:
cap28 just in case you haven't noticed, i don't argue with hypocrites like you, just stick to people who take you seriously because i don't and i will never do. Don't bother quoting my post cos you will never get a reply from me. Done with u
graffiti: @Justwise Yes o, wasn't even expecting it so soon, after reading some responses here about people who waited for 3months before it went through. I'm so grateful to God.
That is what happens when you do things right, congrat again, enjoy ur married life with ur other half.
martinosi: Yeah thats right, grab your tail and run, becos u know that u aiight putting it past me with your *fake intellectual giberrish". Its typical of Nigerians like you! cant hold it down when u are confronted by people that can hold a corner [/b]and tow a line irrespective of what people say,
[b]I have always said it was the International Banking Cartel jacking up nations and economies,
The Facts dont lie.
.well people like u are anon-entity in the scheme of things,
Stick to your Dodgy Visa Advise, Just so dumb, Mr Unwise,
Stop claiming credit for stuff you copied online and spam the forum with, nobody is arguing that the bankers did not cause the credit crunch, its a known fact, so why are u jumping up trying to take the credit for copying and pasting?
martinosi: there u go shooting your self in der foot! and admitting the truth without even releasing it, [/b]U r such a woosss that it not even worth dealing with your[b] "Coconut a**". I guess myself and people like CAP28, Sun of God.etc were saying this all along from the get go, that its the[b] "Bankers STU.ped!![/b]! but all you could do is parrot the[b] "Official Corporate line" of the day like a little Patsy!!!, [/b] You need to go and pull up my previous post and read them before you come out and get your "Ignorant" 9ja whooped!!!,
"HOW DO U KNOW THAT THE GOVT IS LYING BECOSE THEIR LIPS R MOVING !!!
Mr Just sooo slow and dumb to realise it, get off your weak as** and learn, !!!
U may fool all these other Nigerians especially the ones in 9ja that read your post but u aiight fooling me,
People like me will call you out[b] "BIG-TIME"[/b] CUS we see the like of Nigerians like you abroad every day chatting sh** and running their mouths off and they have only been abroad 4 a minute lol!!!
here we go, typical, what exactly is ur point? You are a waste of space, never met somebody so deluded in my life.
graffiti: I give all praises to my ever faithful God. I got my spouse visa speedily and stress free! I applied on the 17th Oct and got no SMS though, but kept tracking it online. On the 2nd Nov status had changed to "application ready for collection", Picked up my spouse visa the next day. Visa had been issued on 27th Oct. Woooow, I'm still amazed Thanks to the good peeps of nairaland. This site has been so informative and helpful. Keep up the good works guys. Wishing all applicants that are still hopeful and expectant best of luck,
martinosi: Lol, and the Millions of Americans who know the truth and are participating in "Occupy Wallt-street" should kick your sorry 9ja beh*** back to the stone age lol!!!
Dont worry[b] "Mr_Just'so dumb'unwise" i shall be fumigating your every post from now on, lol[/b]
If you want to follow me around go ahead, do it with this ID, don't switch to ur other IDs.
martinosi: Lol, and the Millions of Americans who know the truth and are participating in "Occupy Wallt-street" should kick your sorry 9ja beh*** back to the stone age lol!!!
Dont worry[b] "Mr_Just'so dumb'unwise"[/b] i shall be fumigating your every post from now on, lol
You are actually brain dead, Occupy Wallt-street is about greedy bankers and corporate society, its not only in America, Uk and other EU countries witness the same demonstration.
They were not killed for demonstrating unlike your hero Gaddafi and other dictators would have done
Romance › Re: What Did You Do To The Pictures Of Your Former Boyfriend Or Girlfriend? by justwise(m): 9:56am On Nov 10, 2011
BECOSE THEIR LIPS R MOVING !!!