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[quote author=fogman, link=topic=706047.msg9174175#msg9174175 date=1316411553]Finally this have vindicates Justwise and co.
@Mariofemi, wants to commend you for the courage you exhibited by swallowing your pride to come out and announce that the program was a scam. Though, i blamed you, for not taking the patience to check out from the relevant canadian authorities, what it take to get a work visa.
Please keep up the fight, to enable CS victims get back their PP and also keep this house posted on development, since our little advice might be of help to enable victims get back their PP.
@Victims, please do accept my sympathy and please, next time LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP!
@ Justwise and other members who fought hard against this program, a BIG thank you. You posts here helped alot of people from becoming a victim.Thank you all.
Fogman[/quote]He hasn't swallowed  any pride, he still believe that its a risk worth taken, he is trying to sound innocent by claiming to have provided real info and not rumour , of what use is his 'real' info  when the damage has been done? 

I don't feel sorry for him at all, Mariofemi and his younger brother were actively involved in this scam and they both came here fighting for it.

They need to pay for this, they should live to regret ever deliberately engaging in crime of this nature, there is no excuse.

@mariofemi

I'm sorry to say this but honestly you are a disgrace. You need to be held responsible for this wicked crime.

Who did you accused of basing their argument  on hearsay? My points all along were based on facts and i will state it again:

You can not  get 2yrs Canadian work visa with fake/forged medical report= Fact

You can not get 2yrs Canadian work visa without applying for job and given an offer = Fact

Insulting u is nothing, you need to be picked up and locked up in a dark corner and made to pay back everything those applicants u deceived have lost.

You were one of their speakers in those meetings organised by CS, you claimed to have done a research with a prove that CS is real.

What will u say to those that have lost their lives (if that is true) as a result of this ? You failed to listen to anybody OR even believe the info published on Canadian embassy website about all types of work visas cos you are one of those thieves who have ruined lives of naive and foolish Nigerians.

I really hope that u pay dearly for this wicked scam.

[quote author=ANTI- sex link=topic=762530.msg9172573#msg9172573 date=1316376322]@justwise i got wher u are going, i guess i am wrong. i admit[/quote]I'm struggling to get my head around how you could blame her, she was ra&ped by more than 3 animals, she stood no chance, you could hear her begging them, pls pls and pls change your orientation.

We Nigerian men should start respecting women, they have right to life as much as we do, we shouldn't be seen by any means giving excuses for those animals. . .i'm from Abia state, my Niece is in Abia state university, i feel sick to the stomach to even think that any evil animal could touch her let alone make her cry in pain.

I will skin those fools alive.

[quote author=ANTI- sex link=topic=762530.msg9172476#msg9172476 date=1316375347]how did she enter the room, after the freed her y she no carry police enter does guys house make d arrest dem? [/quote]How did she enter the room? Might have been invited by somebody she trusted? Can ur one second memory handle that? I mean come on!! Are you this st[i]up[/i]id or is today ur special day?

[quote author=ANTI- sex link=topic=762530.msg9172453#msg9172453 date=1316375127]now let me put it straight,
if u guys have watched d video well,u will notice that what the poster said isnt exactly what is in the video, 

let me start by saying, if she insulted one of them and d picked her up and violated her and she is a student, den someone will surely knw her and from der investigation will start, but for me the way i am seeing it is that i looks like sex gone wrong, simple [/quote][quote author=ANTI- sex link=topic=762530.msg9172476#msg9172476 date=1316375347]how did she enter the room, after the freed her y she no carry police enter does guys house make d arrest dem?[/quote]I'm really really trying to remain calm while trying to reply you. . ANTI-sex? How old are u? Were you born yesterday? Did you know the trauma that poor girl is going through now? Forget about whoever picked her up, that is completely irrelevant, what right does anybody has to ra$pe a woman? Would you say this nonsense if any of ur relative went through that?

[quote author=ANTI- sex link=topic=762530.msg9172391#msg9172391 date=1316374455]i don watch d video, i do know d guys are silly but she also has her own part of the blame,

1, y didnt she shout

2, she said she prefers to die, y no try and resist ,

3, why hasnt she showed up, so d guys can b caught

4, how did she enter der d first place,

5,if she is a university student like the said , someone will know her and from der investigation can start,


all am saying is d story no settle well, is either sex go wrong or something[/quote]I'm furious reading this from you now, are u one of those animals? How do you sleep at night knowing that a human being have gone through this? I mean. . are you sick?

[quote author=ANTI- sex link=topic=762530.msg9172391#msg9172391 date=1316374455]i don watch d video, i do know d guys are silly but she also has her own part of the blame,

1, y didnt she shout

2, she said she prefers to die, y no try and resist ,

3, why hasnt she showed up, so d guys can b caught

4, how did she enter der d first place,

5,if she is a university student like the said , someone will know her and from der investigation can start,


all am saying is d story no settle well, is either sex go wrong or something[/quote]How dare you!!!! hide ur head in shame!! How do you expect that innocent girl to fight those men? Are you sick in mind? How dare you blame her?

My God!!!! i'm sick now, how can anybody do this to a woman?

Will they get away with this? Those boys need to be hunted down one-by-one!!!!!

[quote author=2-much link=topic=762498.msg9169372#msg9169372 date=1316332570]Please ,house members which website can one use for hotel and flight reservations and booking[/quote]For hotel reservation try booking.com, lastminute.com is another good one for flights and hotels

mr swagger:
Justwise, Thank you so much for your urgent reply. I highly appreciate this alot!!! I am going for a degree programme. But I am still looking around for cheap universities. Justwise can I work in the uk if I apply to study in colleges? Becos the new system doesn't permit international student to work in privately owned colleges. Those studying in publicly owned colleges can work. Justwise can you give me the list of publicly owned colleges that enroll student for january 2012 resumption and can permit student to work. Justwise I would really love you to help me with some information. I would also like you to give me the list of universities that are enrolling students for january/februaury 2012 resumption. I did my research and I came across university of buckingham nd they said they are enrolling students for january 2012 resumption. Justwise pls help me. I am also making efforts too. I didn't sleep last nite becos I was browsing the internet all through the nite. Just wise thanks a lot!!!! I would be very graetful if you accord me every necessary assistance. God bless u!!!!!

I don't have the list of Colleges or Universities for Jan admission, but this website will help http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/employersandsponsors/pointsbasedsystem/registerofsponsorseducation.
This website contains the list of all officially registered colleges and universities in the UK. Those ranked B (Sponsor), A (Trusted) Child or just 'Trusted' are mostly privated colleges and they are not good. Good private Colleges are ranked 'highly trusted'.

You will be allowed to work 10hrs a week if u are studying at public funded colleges but with universities u will be able to work 20hrs a week.

You have to take ur time and go through those colleges and see those offering Jan admission.

mr swagger:
UKstudy, pls I would like you to give me the list of universities that don't require ielts for admission. I have done my research on the ucas website and the universities didn't display if ielts is required or not. I sent emails to some universities and it's taking forever before they reply to my mails simply becos they r having some busy applications to handle at The moment. I want to apply for admission on wednessday. And also I would like to ask if It's possible for me to get admission this year and resume school by dis year or next year january or latest february . Because I have done my research and I found out that many universities are commencing their course by next year september/october 2012 which is next year. And this is too Far for me. Computer science and business management courses in most universities in uk are resuming next year september. I did my research on ucas website. I'm also making effort too. Ukstudy I want you to help me out. Next year september is too Far for me and I want resumption date earlier than that. Once again this is my email kellysilver2015@yahoo.com. I would like you to get in touch wth me. I send you lots of emails but you don't reply. Pls I don't want to spend an extra year at Home anymore. UKstudy pls drop your number? Thanks!!! So that we cud rub minds, @Justwise pls your help would be highly appreciated!!!! Thanks everyone!!!! Hope to hear from you soon. Love you all!!!!!!ould like to ask if It's possible for me to get admission this year and resume school by dis year or next year january or latest february . Because I have done my research and I found out that many universities are commencing their course by next year september/october 2012 which is next year. And this is too Far for me. Computer science and business management courses in most universities in uk are resuming next year september. I did my research on ucas website. I'm also making effort too. Ukstudy I want you to help me out. Next year september is too Far for me and I want resumption date earlier than that. Once again this is my email kellysilver2015@yahoo.com. I would like you to get in touch wth me. I send you lots of emails but you don't reply. Pls I don't want to spend an extra year at Home anymore. UKstudy pls drop your number? Thanks!!! So that we cud rub minds, @Justwise pls your help would be highly appreciated!!!! Thanks everyone!!!! Hope to hear from you soon. Love you all!!!!!!

This yr admission is closed, you maybe lucky to get Jan or Feb admission season. Are u going for degree or diploma?

adexrisk:
Is a pity dat we all fall to ds scam.
One of the applicant dat resigned 4rm his work place and sold all what he can sell to enable him ready for the journey is dead now, Immediately after he got back home from National Theater, he slump and died to d scam,

Whoever kwns Mr. Fred whereabout should inform him about this latest info,

I knw alot is in the same situation.

God!!!!!!!!

ojdollars:
@CollinsFbi , Ah Ha, where are thou been? It's been a long time. Bros, get my baseless point like you call it. I am just trying to tell this Justwise to be careful with the way he insults people, I followed your post for a while and I see the way you respond to the scammers or fraudsters on here. I am not a Pastor, I am just saying that, the spiritual controls the physical. You see, this programme or whatsoever they are doing like you said might be real or fake or something. But all the applicants have now is just assumptions, no real fact, no real proof that the program is real. I remember some months back, AUSTRALIA GOVT offered some kind of relative program to the GOVT OF MALAYSIA to bring in about 5000+ or less Refuge into Australia. Who said Canadians don't want their economy to grow? Africans might be labelled all sort of names, but every white man knows that, if you want your economy to boost up, you need the black man's hand. We possess great potentials than most people in the western world today. I don't know what the program is all about or the reason they are doing such program. But onething I am sure of is that, because Mr.A is incapable of Manufacturing PRODUCT ZZZZ, doesn't mean that Mr.B can't do it. Don;t be surprises that there are people who has direct connections to most of this western govt officials or whatsover that are not even in politics in Nigeria. If someone like Dangote or Adenuga wants to send like 1000 people out for training, there is a way he can lias with the govt of that country for his request to be granted without contacting the embassy of that country in Nigeria here. Oyibo, needs what you can give to them, what you can contribute to them, not what they can give to you. The Britians are practical examples.

I am not having any personal quandary and strife against Justwise and those unreasonable poster. From the Page 29 to 30, there was this two people that their post explained most of all the things I think the applicants needs to hear or read at this time. Talking about this guys, CanImServ and one other guy here. But Justwise is still insisting that the program is fraud, in the first place, did he not start discrediting this program when over 6000+ people went to buy their form. I have nothing to do with this and this would be my last post on this thread, let all those who apply wait patiently, by pressing forward and holding steadfast. Nothing good in life, come's easily. If you fail to take any risk, then you risk even more.

Bros, na later things ooh, I got lots of work to do from now till month end, paper pill up here, I should face my biz now. Gbammmmmmmmmmmmmmm over and out - See you collinsfbi AND the rest great guys here.

and what happened to those pple now? Are they in Canada now?

Police in London have arrested a 31-year-old man in connection with allegations of unauthorised trading which has cost Swiss banking group UBS an estimated $2bn (£1.3bn).

Kweku Adoboli, believed to work in the European equities division, was detained in the early hours of Thursday and remains in custody.

UBS shares fell 8% after it announced it was investigating rogue trades.

The Swiss bank said no customer accounts were affected





http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14927432

CanImServ:
Dear Forum members,

Who knows if justwise=moderator=marofemi=capriani=seun=doubling=etc. We are talking about a contributor with about 12,000 posts and has achieved only a passion for self recognition attempting to discredit even those who choose to discredit the program! I hope you will agree with us that it is better to be evaluated by someone else (not a sycophant), because then you get to see or understand
1. how other workers in the field get results and
2. how you are perceived by a section of your community.

If you are also a travel agent or has been scammed and you need redress, what we have highlighted in this forum is a sure way of putting Crystal Services management in a position of accountability. What I see you doing in MANY instances is to be seriously guiding your popularity with  about 12,000 posts. One or two persons have even gone ahead to brand CaImServe as investigators and maybe more will follow. Maybe more abuses will follow our comments. What we see clearly, is that with people still going ahead to start daily prayers and to request for more registration forms, means your methods are NOT WORKING and people are simply amused by the abuses, but not paying attention to you!

We should be more concerned about how people can form groups like interest-groups devoted to getting their passports or money back or both. People can pray if they wish. It is their right, but some posts like that from chivic123 and vesto09 (m) with only 10 posts tend to illuminate even though we do not accept all the submissions therein.

If however your preoccupation continues to be passion to be seen as correct in your posts, a continued feeling of self importance, with about 12,000 posts then go ahead with your own agenda. By the way, how come no one has categorically confirmed that CS does not have an approved oversea partner in Canada?! - or maybe no one has asked Fred or justwise or Femi or Jumoke or Alhaja or Folake or Capriani, etc about this?

We have seen results of some sort and we believe 1/3 of our objectives has been achieved and any in intelligent stakeholder who has had to loose something more than even money, will agree that there is an opportunity now than ever before, for applicants who wish to approach an attorney at law, make a complaint and have proper representation. Delay of course is dangerous.

If any one does not agree with this please let us us have your own plans of action.

Good luck,
CaImServ II

Garbage. utterly nonsense, keep fooling yourself.

tejutaiwoh:
Any information about "Note Verbale", and how does it work?
please lets post feedback here

Diplomats especially use note verbale for some sort of official communication within diplomatic circle, though in Nigeria that channel has been abused.

mercylife:
Justwise are u serious about what u are saying or u are just cracking joke about d cs failure dat goin on, [/b] thanks

Yes i'm serious, CS is a scam.

If you think its real then answer these questions:

1.Did you send blood sample or attend any medical test at those 2 specific  hospitals officially recognized by Canadian embassy?

2. Did you attend any visa interview in Canadian embassy?

3. Did you apply for any job in Canada and get an offer?
4. Do you really think that a city in Canada will need 8000 Nigerian workers in one go?

. . for any of you to get 2 yrs Canadian work visa then question 1-3 is a must, you can not get 2yrs work visa with fake/forged medical report OR without attending visa interview AND before you even dream of applying for work visa u MUST apply for job, get an offer b4 even   start filling visa application form.

Some of you should keep praying to your gOD while in the middle of crime.

The visa form CS sold to you lot is actually free, you can download it in Canadian embassy website

wilzz26:
i knew this from day one that this cryistal nonsence people are scammers. i just wonder why Nigerians will not wise up and make proper verifications before they embackl on this so called crystal , @ justwise you have always attacked this gang of scammers and you seemm to always uncover them there by making thoese with ears to ear and listen to the formats these 21st century of yahoo yahoo group do.
Ha, i just knew it from day one as e don tey wey dem don dey do this poo oo. local yahoo bandicts,
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Giving up is out of the question, only if the thread is locked by the Mod.

I will give you a ring b4 you go back to Aussie

silentc:
. . . .as a matter of fact.

I have come across a special US visa just released (not available to the public or on the US immigration website). This visa is because of the new Obama Jobs Act/Bill he is going to pass through US senate to make sure the US is on the road to recovery.

They need workers to help build the US and get her out of the recession.

All i need from you is your name, age and date of birth. Oh . . . and a small processing fee of =N=1,000.

Also, we are only processing 5000 applicants with guaranteed spots. So first come first served. Flights to the US will be on April 1st 2012.

I will publish my bank account details for transfer of funds.

Please do not miss this once in a lifetime opportunity. Book now to avoid disappointment!!!

. . . you are a character.

yem66:
@chivic123 .thanks a lot.sincerely,i wonder why we more than often cry than the bereaved?self importance?if the applicants(me inclusive) are not crying 'crucify mr fred' dont you think we know somethings that some of you dnt know or see?why wovld some respectable people would not like to contribute?with all those insults? and those abusive words without barrier?i teach my children @ home manners,etiquette and love,and cant be caught violating them.sometimes ago a man insulted me and my inlaw @ the bus stop and i did tried to correct him.Nigerian kind of, he refused to be corrected,left him alone .weeks he ended up to be the painter contracted to paint our house!never bothered to revisit the case.gave him cake my wife baked. me i ask myself what kind of site is this that the moderator 'seems' to be enjoying all those cursing and,crises and yet stood aloof?haba! What are you moderating?makes your thread to be visited often and popular?the truth like i posted, wait a little while.wait better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof, what the elder sees sitting down, the youger one up and standing cant figure out[b]!justwise and co pls.wait a while.[/b]Thanks.For Mr Fred.well done sir!!!there are trade secrets,also there are also SECRETS OF THE TRADE.Like a sonorous proverb do we drum ogidigbo.it is the WISE who drum it and the LEARNED who understands it.Goodnite and God bless you all.God bless Mr Fred and God bless Nigeria!Please remeber to pray for Nigeria.Good nite and good morning.

Let me give you the benefit of doubt. . .that you are saying what CS told you and you innocently believed in it but. . based on this arrangement . , the closest you will get to Canada is CS's office.

ojdollars:
@ALL ---- The Cave We Most Fear To Enter, Contains The Greatest Treasure We Are Looking For In Life. Please, if you applied for Crystal Services, Do not be afraid. What I expect all applicants to do, is to pray for the Program to work out. If this guys are Fraud, they would have left long ago. We know that, we do not trust ourselves in this country and yet we are begging for the white man's trust on us by trying to prove that we (Selfish self) are very much different from the rest of the race we came from. Please prayer is the Key, everything is possible, don't ask where has this happened before, let yours be a first time. Everything that happens in the days of OUR LORD JESUS in the bible, was a first time. Pray all applicants. There is no commission that grows without evil confrontations, attack and challenge. Pray for the MR.FRED And all the Staffs, let there be light in this trip and pray it work out for you all. Life and death, is in the power of our tongue. Thank you all.


@Justwise and you useless followers. You are still here insulting people abi? I made a promise to you, that I will make a refund to your FAMILY with the Money they spent training you to school or borrowed from OSUSU Meeting to send you to wherever suffered, hardship state you are in that has fraustrated you and that has made you not to see anything good in this life. You were born in impossibilities, feed with impossibilities. If you are truly a Great Patriot as you try to prove to your senseless, useless, sufferhead, fraustrated, poor, inferior followers, why are you not in Nigeria, living and working hard like others to earn a living for yourself? You sit in UK as[b] you claimed you are in UK, which I know you not and[/b] insult people, no respect. You are just shortening your life, you don't know. I feel for you, don't ever comment further on this thread again, because you are nothing but AN IMPOSSIBLE ADULT. Most people in the UK/US/CANADA that has Mental Problem, are often given access to the Internet. Maybe you are one of them. Since you are in the UK, you have never posted any pictures, sight seeing you went for, like Suxes2005 or 2006 is doing, like other people are doing. You are just a looser, a fool, and silly bundle of rubbish. Justwise, how many countries have you traveled to? How many people can you show us that you have sponsored or help to become somebody in life today?



@Justwise Followers, you set of miscreant, can never amount to anything, you would just be wasted and become an impossible adult that would never amount to anything in life if you continue with this mentally illed lying small kid on the computer called Justwise.


@famowole , Stop those your non-sense post, how many countries have you traveled to? How many people can you show us that you have sponsored or help to become somebody in life today? If you know what is good for you, get lost from this thread. You slowpoke.

@All Applicants, If you refuse to yield to the advise of non spiritually minded people, God blesses you for it. Pray and hope for the best.

You dirty old man. . . when did God become your partner in crime? I thought they said old age comes with wisdom? Obviously that passed you by.
At one point you said i'm not in the UK then next you said i'm. . .disgusting human being.

Talking about Suxes2005, couple of months ago he started his own Canadian travel scam and was exposed, enjoy urself here>>> https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-667043.0.html