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Albion05:
Good morning @ Justwise, happy new year first of all. This is the first time you actually responded to my post.
On the question you asked, I want to thank you for taking out your time to ask this wonderful question.

Answers: My sponsor did not print any new statement of account. On the 18th of January, 2018. The DIBP wrote to me requesting for my Canadian student refusal letter and 3 months Statement of account.
My sponsor printed the statement of account 5 days after because this mail came on the last day of the week. I also got my refusal letter notorized it with the statement of account and uploaded it. N/B I was given 7 days to do that.

On the 3rd of February, 2018, which is our Friday by time zone and Saturday by their own time zone, I got a mail with the heading Natural Justice to comment on the statement of account of my sponsor seen as non genuine, I was given 14 days to respond to that. I responded to the mail on the 6th of February, 2018 with the letter from my sponsors bank affirming to the statement of account they issued to their customer. The bank sent the letter first to the legal department in Lagos for approval before it was now released to my sponsor.

I and my sponsor spent the whole day in the Bank waiting for the approval of the legal department after they typed the letter. In the letter, the bank stated they have re-attached the same statement of account issued to their customer previously for them to confirm.
This account in question is my fathers account and no such of ill malpractice was done on it.
I also did an affidavit of fact in the high court.
So dear, there is no shady deals of what so ever you might think or conceived in the mind.
With all these, the case officer bent on saying that is non genuine.

If my sponsor is guilty of such we won't be wasting our time pursing this. But I can't fold my hands and someone will sit in his or her office and raised a frivolous allegation on my reputation and I will keep mute.

As I am typing to you, am in my laywers office were he is drafting out the items with all the letters and correspondence.
The laywer will also write mandating the bank to explain what happened and all letter will be copied to the embassy.
You have every right to believe what you feel is right for you.

A clear conscience fears no accusation.
I have 2 or 3 persons on the platform that I worked closely and we all applied together. They know me and my family very well and they have been part of my journey in this application, we share ideas together and all that. For the sake of identity and rights I preserved their right not to disclose their identity here.

I will have to get to the root of this and know what really happened. But from my sponsors side nothing happened, the bank have more explanation to do on this.
That's all I can on this issue henceforth.
But remember, Case officers are human beings and their are Spiritual and Physical dominion in this life.
Experience is the best teacher. Some of us have not encountered, experienced or come across some things in life and you ask your self, "why me" of course, it will happen to a human being not a ghost. Thanks once again and God bless you!.

This is not about what i believe and yes case officers are human beings and can get it wrong sometimes but i don't think that hammering on legal issue here will help your case because visa is not a right, its just a privilege.

Contact your bank headquarter and present your case regarding the bank statement since you are absolutely sure that the bank statement is genuine. You need those responds from the bank headquarters in writing so as to use it to argue your case with the embassy.

@Albion05

I have been reading your post regarding the refusals and very few people here have asked you a very important question.. what is the difference between the first bank statement you submitted and the second one they requested?

Please forget about legal action you are taking about because you will be wasting your money and time.

Embassies do verify bank statement with bank head quarters and not the local one, so be honest with yourself and examine what happened to those bank statements

Kunle2030:
Hello everyone.i have been following this thread for a long time tho I never posted.i will like to give back to this wonderful forum cos reading through the pages helped me.So I recently applied for a standard visitor visa and it was granted.i have been travelling to the UK in the last 18 years.i started out with a 6 months visa,then got a 2 years visitor visa twice and went on to 5 years visa.my 5 years visa recently expired so i decided to apply for a 10 year visa which was very expensive but I thought it's worth it if u can afford it and u get it. Here is my timeline:
Submitted at tls ikeja Feb 7,
Transferred to ukvi Feb 8,
Decision made email Feb 16
Collection email Feb 16.

One thing I learnt from my experience is that it is important to keep your application simple and honest.it is also important to have a very good travel history and don't abuse your visa.i have never stayed more than 3 weeks on holiday all thru my 5 years visa.3 weeks was the highest i ever stayed..there were many times I stayed 10 days and sometimes 3 days.

When I submitted I didn't have any payslips cos my company didn't give payslips so what I did was I had to get a letter from my office to introduce me and to state how long my annual leave will be for and also to state my salary.by the way my salary was about 105k naira not a lot really and it was never regurlaly paid.i submitted my personal bank statement with a balance of about 750k and also my salary account with zero balance just showing my salary deposits even though they were not regularly paid.
I didn't have any property so i didn't submit any evidence of one.i submitted letter of invitation,sponsors British passport biodata page and a proof of address from sponsor in form of an electric bill.
Those were all I submitted.infact when i remember when I went to submit at tls ikeja I felt intimidated cos there were people with loads of documents and i didnt have much to submit but alas,my 10 years standard visitor visa was granted.pls keep it simple,be honest and don't abuse the terms of your visa and try to make short trips..thanks justwise and ektokpe and all the contributors thanks for your selfless service.

Congratulations! Glad that you found useful information here that helped you.

Thanks for coming back here to contribute useful information.

Enjoy your trip

bertv66:
Hello Just wise and family
My name is Al and I need your divine intelligence on my next Uk application.
I applied in 2011 for a tourist visa but was refused based on the fact that I didn’t show how my fees was funded. In 2013 I applied again to attend a friends graduation in Sunderland but was refused again based on the fact that I didn’t state I had any Dependent kid. So there was discrepancies in my 2011 application and the 2013. I only didn’t state in my first application because my son was been catered for by my mum.
Fast forward 2014 I have travelled to the US Dubai India 9 Schengen countries . I have my own company now and a charity foundation .

I would be grateful if you could help me tackle the discrepancies btn my previous application.

Regards Al

You have nothing to worry about because a lot has changed since your last application. Be honest about previous refusals and use the blank space in the form to info about your trip.

Tanamon:
Dont you think telling the university will put me on the spotlight and jeopardise my chances?............Can't I run the stuff codedly with the help of a course-mate who might be giving me updates on happenings for the duration of my absence?

thanks

The program is not part of your course and your attendance matters a lot.

Your school will waste no time reporting to Homeoffice if keep missing lectures.

The choice is yours.

Post this in Canadian student visa thread

Tanamon:
Hello house, please I need an advice from the house Gurus, I started my Msc programme this February in a UK university under a scholarship from a Nigerian government body. Fortunately someone I met here in the UK connected me with his friend working with an organisation that practices exactly my field of study. The person ask me to mail him my personal details and my CV, which I did. Afterwards, he mailed me today thanking me for my prompt response and asking to know the below information

If my Msc programme allow for time off-campus, say duration 6 weeks starting within the next few weeks? Would there be a conflict of interest in regards to compulsory classes, exams, deadlines, etc.?

my answers to the above will inform his decision. Also, being on a tier 4 visa with 20hrs/week work allowance.....how do I answer and go about it.

..........Of course my answer will be in the affirmative, just want to know how to answer his question intelligently.

You need an express permission from your university to take up such offer else it will affect your studies and your immigration status

Frankrobbn1:
shaddy1k,
Good to hear from you again.

CAIPS/GCMS NOTE - Is a note that is written by a Visa officer that handled your previous app and on the note you will find the factual reason why your application was refused.
So it's good you order for your file. In respect to the cost you can order for it here in Nigeria at the rate of 23$ equivalent #8400. If you have someone in Canada that is legally residing over there,(Permanent residence, citizen, student, etc..) the person can order for the note on your behalf at the rate of $5 using this link https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do?lang=en


Since you're a sponsored applicant, there is no cut off bank figure/balance that should be in your account. The Visa officer understands fully that you're not sponsoring yourself, so therefore the financial burden will be on your sponsor to certify them that funds will be made available to you.
I have seen applicants without property/assests but were approved of their visas, you only need to establish a strong ties to your country by showing more interest in coming back after your studies, your future goals and prospects in Nigeria matters alot, you Aged parents is a home tie, your siblings the same. So endeavour to add your siblings birth certificates to your next application. Since you dont have any property in your name, You can't claim what you don't have, so go ahead and provide a rational explanations and you will be fine.

Finally, do you intend saying you got the money from your place of work i.e your SAVINGS?

Please if this information is not sufficient enough, feel free to ask questions.
Thank you!

I have to edit this post to remove sections where you encouraged circumventing immigration rules and advertising 3rd party link.

Account boasting no matter how small should not be encouraged here.

I appreciate every single person helping out here but we need to do it legitimately because many are reading this.

@Anonymous1900

Please stop replying to questions here directed at VOs.

Thank you.

funmido:
Hi all

Secondly I’ve been trying to register an account on the uk visa site: https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/Account/Register

After imputing the correct details, it bounced me back to the image below
(Your registration has been unsuccessful, please see the guidance at ....)

Kindly help

Thanks

Check your form very well to see the mandatory question you missed.

funmido:
Good morning all

CcJustwiswe ccEkpotek cceveryone

Kindly assist- My sister’s passport expires in July 2018 but she intends to renew her visa this week and visit the UK for Easter holidays


How feasible is this?

Thanks for your prompt response in advance

February to July is 5months, passport validity should be months. She needs to get another passport.

Laminat:
Pls Mr. Justwise, pls help me view the attachment and reply. Its urgent sir.

I can’t really view like I said before, I’m on holiday with just my phone so it’s difficult, you did not upload it properly

phatbaby1:
Hi guys our application has been successful!

Whoop! Whoop!

I’m going to be popping champagne tonight

Thanks to every single person and the veterans on this thread. If you’re ever in the Birmingham area, feel free to stop by for tea :-)

Standard application
Timeline:
TLS and Biometrics: 21 November 2017
Documents received email: 24 November 2017
Supporting docs sent to Sheffield: 4 December 2017
Decision made email: None
Decision made TLS update: 15 February 2018
Passport returned to center email: 15 February 2018
Passport returned to center update: 15 February
Application picked up: 16 February

Congratulations!

Frankrobbn1:
They don't, because there are multitudes of applications to review. Perhaps, I have used a case scenario where an applicant lied abt their previous sponspor (using Maternal, paternal, Nephew etc... as sponsor) and on the new application the applicant decides to change sponspor to someone else with different name and got approved.

Well, I'll still make more research regarding this.

I actually didn’t expect that from you. Canadian embassy is not in a hurry to process your application. Honestly we should try not to give people false hope as we try to answer questions here.

Changing sponsor is not a crime, editing your CV or employment letter to add information that wasn’t there before is a crime.

Embassies keep records, how often they check those records is what we don’t know.

oluwa234:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND AND PROMPT RESPONSE. SO I CHOSE BUSINESS AND THEN OTHER BUSINESS SINCE NONE OF THE SUBCATEGORIES SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED CONFERENCE.


THANKS

Yes

Laminat:
lease good people of nairaland consider my case. Attached is the refusal letter I got.
It was unfortunate the ECO didn't read my cover letter where I stated that the said #400k was a refund of the money I earlier lent my blood brother( as evident in my statement of acct).
Going forward,
Please sirs I have the following questions:
1. Can I additionally( including cover letter) provide any cash flow issues in the body of the application form where additional information is sought??
2. Do I need to submit a new application or there is a way to modify the previous application
3. How helpful is the pension statement of acct in ECo decision
4. Any useful hints.
Thanks and God bless

I’m browsing today with mobile phone as a result I’m unable to read the attachment because of the way you updated them.

taskat:
House should advice me on what to do as i am propose to travel to uk to visit my coursin on Easter. I am a self employ with a good running personal bank statement. My business is not register under CAC and i have never been paying any tax. Is it possible to b granted a visa irrespective of business registration and paying tax. Although i have a wife and a child and land as ties in Nigeria. Despite all this, can i still be granted if apply?

Honestly nobody here can give you an honest answer to that, you have to apply first and see how it goes

ogheneese07:
Guys, please help me out. My mom, sister and I are planning on travelling to the UK in April for visit. My mom travels to the UK yearly, her visa recently expired and she intends on re applying with us this time. We were adviced not to apply as a family becos the Vos may think we are trying to run away. Is this true please ? My sis and I intend on submitting our introduction letter from the office, leave letter, and pay slips.We intend on using momsy banks statement as she will be the one sponsoring the trip and we do not have much in our accts. Can we include our birth certificate to show relationship with my mom ? Currently she has over 3 mill in her acct and we are staying for a week with family. What do you guys think please ? Thank you

Applying together as a family is better but most importantly you and your sister have to individually meet the visa requirements without your mum contribution. Yes submitting your birth certificate is a good thing to do.

ogogo24:
Good day guys, my wife's visit visa application was recently denied based on the following reasons:

1. that the documents she submitted do not fully evidence her personal, social or financial circumstances in Nigeria.
2. no evidence to show how she is financially supported and how she intend to access the fund while in the UK.

Background:
I'll be in the UK on training for 3 months (have valid visa already), I applied for her to visit for a week during my stay. We provided dependents (children) details, my financial details (being the sponsor) and others but did not include:

(1)her statement of account (she's self-employed - not a regular salary earner) and
(2)a letter stating I'll be d sponsor...although we stated that clearly on the application form (the visa officer acknowledged seeing this).

Could the 2 missing documents be the sole reason for her refusal?

Also, what chance do we stand re-applying and providing these docs, plus others earlier provided?

How soon can one re-apply after refusal?

Thanks.

You can reapply anytime but this time around make sure you add a breakdown of the cost to convince the ECO that the money you have is enough to support you in the UK and your wife.

oluwa234:
Hello Guys.

Please I have a couple of questions and i will be glad if someone on this platform can assist.

1. I intend applying for a visa to the UK to attend a conference. I am however uncertain about the visa category to apply for - TOURISM or BUSINESS. The available information does not categorically state under which of these subtypes conferences fall.

2. My last trip to the UK was in 2008. Unfortunately I misplaced that passport and now i am required fill in the dates granted on the visa that was granted. Any idea as to how i can deal with this?

3. Does anyone have a realistic idea of the waiting time (other than the average times quoted) as i need my passport back ASAP. NB - A friend mentioned that his mum didnt get her passport back until after 4 months.

Thanks

cc- justwise

1. You apply for standard visa which covers all sorts of sub-visa categories, specially yours should be business or academic depending on the conference you are attending.

2. Put N/A and use the blank space in the form to explain that you can’t remember because you lost the passport.

3. There is no specific time , some get it with a month while some have to wait longer than that.

BandAid:
Thanks, bro. Someone just mentioned (I guess on this thread) that email received from the UK Visa Sheffield with a VAF number as a reference number is almost a certainty that the visa is granted.

That is not true

Frankrobbn1:
Boss Justwise!
They will have records/documents of the previous application, but they don't cross check it to compare with the documents of the new application. A new application is treated based on the evidence provided.

Why would they not do that?

Frankrobbn1:
Boss Justwise!

Yes I don't think they cross checks previous documents and letters. The only thing I know the visa officer do is go directly to Global Case Management System (GCMS) file and cross check the previous refusal grounds and Notes made by the previous visa officer. Each application is treated afresh and are accompanied with new application fees. The only details they keep/store/save on their portfolio is the details on the IMM study permit forms and not previous letters. So I don't see anything bad if the applicant decides to reedit or add valuable information he missed in his previous application.

Come to think of it, haven't you thought about this:
Why is it that some applicants on their first application, they use a Sponspor and claim its their maternal/paternal uncle etc... and got refused. Then, in the second application the applicant decides to change sponspor and use another person with different name from the previous one and still claim that the sponspor is maternal/paternal. At the end of everything, they get their visa approved. If they really go through letters, such application was supposed to be charged for MISREPRESENTATION, but it wasn't. There are large volume of applications and a Visa officer won't stress him/her self going through previous letters.(It's not done).

My advise to the applicant is that you don't change/alter the employment history stated on the previous IMM forms, but can go ahead to change/reedit/add their letters using the same EMPLOYMENT HISTORY there is no harm in that.

This is my intake Sir, Any valuable opinion will be appreciated.

You did not answer the core of my question.. which is: why do you think that embassy will not keep an applicant’s supporting documents submitted previously? Your answer to his question was no that embassy will not keep previous CV and employment letter submitted previously.

Frankrobbn1:
Hello shaddy1k,

If i understand your question clearly Sir, you are asking if cic keeps the record of past employment histories and documents like employment letters, CV's etc and whenever an applicant reapplies wether they go cross check the previous documents/files to be sure both CV's and letters matches.

My answer is (NO THEY DON'T) but it's always good to stand with what you have started, if your last application you provided proof of employment and letters supporting it, it's advisable you continue with it and don't alter anything.
You can decide to reedit your letters and CV's there is no harm in that, but don't change the employment history you stated on your previous application.

I hope this answers your question.

Good luck!

Are you sure about this? Why would they not keep those documents?

Sarang:
My passport will be expiring next year.

I am just wondering if it's possible to get one at home and courier it here, if this is legal or to apply instead at Ottawa. Also is it a must that I will be physically present in Ottawa? Can they not just send it to my home address? I live in Saskatchewan

Someone please answer me.

How will get a new passport without biometric? Never a good idea.

mekaboy:
90% of Nigerians in America got there with fake documents. It's no big deal. Most times you go with genuine one they deny you and give to the fake ones.

If she told them she had not travelled, they will say she does not have travel history.

If she said she was not yet working, they will say she is looking to run.

If she has job, they will say she is not married and won't come back.

If she is married and has job, they will say she does not own property in Nigeria.

They are telling us about the one with fake documents, what about the millions of genuine applications rejected for no reason?

I know a lady who is a manager in a telecom industry in Nigeria. Travelled to dubai, UK and other countries. Currently has 10 years UK VISA, but was denied as not having ties because she was not married.



Who talks about them?

Visa is not your right, it's a privilege.

I doubt your lady friend was denied a visa because she is not married.

JOSHCANADA:
hello gurus in the house,

I received my trv today. I want to travel end of this month but I'm worried that I might have issue at airport in canada because my university resumes in september. Can I enter Canada 7 months before my uni resumes I'm just going early to acclimatize with the weather and culture etc .
pls advise me.. I dont want to go there and get turned back at the airport. I'll cry because of the transport money lost and disappointment.

I need a guided advice pleaseeeeeeeeeeee.

Thanks people

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That makes no sense, you are about to push your luck too far.

kenzindax:
please is the Visa centre different from TLS office at Ikeja. I have visited TLS office where I submitted 4times ..

They are the same

graciielo:
@justwise, i earn 100k, working for 2years nw, have side business i do and not married. i await your input on the first question as well. thanks

Give you t a try I will not discourage you, get all the supporting documents from your sisters in U.K, both of them or one can sponsor you