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ReesheesuKnack:
By your logic, it means circa 3billion pounds on hotel bills is bang for buck?

Zahra29:
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We should be able to have a broader, rational discourse about some of the underlying issues and general discontent felt even by those who are not protesting, without being accused of supporting the violence.

I made a similar post yesterday about the humongous cost of asylum hotels. It's staggering when one considers the daily cost running into millions, especially when you factor in that these hotels are strategically placed in areas which are already relatively deprived. Why are there no such hotels in Maidenhead (T Mays former constituency) or Yorkshire (Sunak's constituency) or other middle and upper class areas? Is the govt providing additional funding to areas like Tamworth and Rotherham to support GPs, hospitals, schools, law enforcement and other public services or are these communities expected to just make do somehow with hundreds/thousands of new residents when they are already underfunded as it is.

There's a reason why protests /riots are not taking place in leafy, suburban areas. Poverty/class/inequality is a big factor and this applies not only to these riots but also the Harehills riot last month in the Roma community, and other riots like the Croydon riots in 2011. What happened to the levelling up agenda to address the issues of social inequality, lack of opportunities and under investment in such towns?

I didn't support the Rwanda scheme but I agree that if Keir doesn't "smash the gangs" as promised and stop the boat crossings asap then the Rwanda scheme is going to end up looking like a silver bullet in comparison.

Interestingly Italy is about to roll out a similar scheme, but in Albania, and some other EU countries are looking to follow suit if it works:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/how-does-italys-migration-deal-with-albania-work-2024-06-04/

Zahra29:
Justwise, these protests/riots have been mainly directed at IlLEGAL IMMIGRATION. It's a difficult situation because I'm sure there are genuine asylum seekers, however a few issues that have been simmering in these communities are:

- the amount of money spent on asylum hotels. Several million a day, how many billions of pounds is that a year? Meanwhile pensioners are losing their winter allowances, schools are underfunded, no money for adult social care, £20bn black hole in govt finances etc.

- how come the asylum hotels are not being put up in middle class areas? Why not Clapham or Richmond or the nice parts in Manchester or Surrey? Why are they in deprived areas that are already struggling? With no added funding - GPs, hospitals, schools etc will be under even more pressure with hundreds of new residents /asylum seekers until it becomes a "Hunger Games" for public services. Politicians don't mind because they live in naice areas - just like in America - immigrants are welcome by the Dems as long as they are NIMBY (Not In My Backyard)

- there have been increasing reports of asylum seekers that have committed heinous crimes e.g. the recent acid attack in London, stabbings, grooming/raping of british girls etc. Women are now reporting that they are scared to go out at night in certain parts of their towns that used to be safe.

- there have been several terrorist attacks since 2005- the London tube attack, Manchester arena, the Lee Rigby killing, attempted suicide bombings on hospitals, cars being rammed into pedestrians in London etc etc carried out by men from a certain religion. There are fears that potential terrorists will be among those coming via boat and the government does not know who is coming into the country. It is also a big part reason for the anger against that religion being displayed in the protests.

- perceived "two tier policing"

These are a few of the issues that have been simmering and have tipped out into the open after the tragic Southport attack. Ireland has been staging protests for months now - they recently burned down 2 centres that had been earmarked to house asylum seekers.

Zahra29:
And these ones will be dealt with by the law as well. Hopefully there will be arrests on all sides as there have also been attacks and mob violence from the MDF in places like Bolton.

My point is that the underlying issues will not go away - unless they are addressed by the government, it's only a matter of time before the next protest or something worse happens.

I hope you also realise that that there are many black and ethnic people who don't work and who rely on benefits - aka benefits scroungers. Even the immigrants who are able to claim benefits do so happily e.g. Poles and Bulgarians. Some have become experts in scamming the benefits system. Not sure why the term benefits scroungers is reserved solely for white Brits lol.

Zahra29:
And when black people (many on benefits) rioted, looted, vandalised and some killed in 2011, who/what was the cause of their "miserable condition"?

When the Romas (many on benefits) rioted and looted and attacked the police last month, who/what was the cause of their "miserable condition"?

Yes, race is absolutely a factor but the common denominator in all these violent protests is class/poverty/inequality.
Someone said that it's a fight between Poor white Vs Poor Brown instead of against the elite ruling class. You don't see the same riots and protests happening in middle class or affluent areas do you?

This is what the Home Secretary said today about the riots:

Lots of people have concerns and views about crime, about the NHS, about immigration, but they don’t pick up bricks and throw them at the police, they don’t try and set light to a hotel where people are known to be inside it, they don’t loot shops as a result," Cooper tells the BBC.

She adds that she supports peaceful protesters who want to raise their views - but says that's a "world away from the kind of "violence and thuggery" currently taking place.


Beyond the thuggery and violence, there is a silent majority - many at home not protesting, who are angry about the issues the Home Sec called out - NHS, immigration, rising crime, winter fuel payments being stripped from pensioners while millions are spent each day on asylum hotels etc. People who do not support the violence but agree with the underlying frustration of the protesters.

Just like in 2011, the issues are not magically going to go away by putting some people in jail (for 6 months🙄). These riots will be quelled but the government will have to address the root causes at some point, otherwise it's just a matter of time before something flares up again.

Zahra29:
Yes I do.

Hopefully the riots will calm down in the next couple of days. Brits typically don't have the rioting stamina of the French or the Bangladeshi.

Farage hasn't actually commented on the riots as far as I'm aware. Tice on the other hand has been vocal on Twitter highlighting that there has been violence on both sides of the riots. Legally I don't think there's going to be much to stick on them because they haven't actually called on people to go out and fight and destroy property. People will be held accountable for their own actions. It's like blaming Labour or Corbyn for fomenting the 2011 riots in which several people actually died.

What is more concerning is the damage done to police trust, cohesion and community relations. The cities where the more violent protests are being staged e.g. Rotherham, Sunderland etc exposes the deep anger and tensions that have been brewing over many years fuelled by deprivation, rising crime, inequality and a feeling of abandonment by the government. Similar reasons for previous riots, and these issues will need to be addressed by the government sooner or later.

FreeSpirited:
Guys it seems I'm about to be scammed while trying to apply to a school
.
I saw one application site www.studyinpoland.biz

I followed their site, and their whatsap, and also communicated with them as instructed through email. I sent all my documents, passport no and preferred course.

Few days later they congratulate me that I am eligible for the course that I only have to pay 300Euro...to get the admission letter as per the norm to the institution they got for me.
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Unfortunately, the school which is Nicolas Copernicus Uni, seems to have a different school deadlines/calender from the one the site says after I researched .......and I couldn't see any other link on the internet that says that school offers Public health. Shay no be scam be this?

Then, I try to change University and course, yet I couldn't find the link to apply into school like Poznan life uni.....Abeg how do u guys apply . help before I'm scammed.......I saw www.educationpoland.pl but I'm scared it may be another scam

I need application link
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FreeSpirited:
Guys it seems I'm about to be scammed while trying to apply to a school
.
I saw one application site www.studyinpoland.biz

I followed their site, and their whatsap, and also communicated with them as instructed through email. I sent all my documents, passport no and preferred course.

Few days later they congratulate me that I am eligible for the course that I only have to pay 300Euro...to get the admission letter as per the norm to the institution they got for me.
.
Unfortunately, the school which is Nicolas Copernicus Uni, seems to have a different school deadlines/calender from the one the site says after I researched .......and I couldn't see any other link on the internet that says that school offers Public health. Shay no be scam be this?

Then, I try to change University and course, yet I couldn't find the link to apply into school like Poznan life uni.....Abeg how do u guys apply . help before I'm scammed.......I saw www.educationpoland.pl but I'm scared it may be another scam

I need application link
.

Pentagon007:
Mods justwise DisGuy What can we do for Nigerians to start building apartments in the way we see in Europe?
Please move to front page.
Mynd44
Seun

Lexusgs430:
How do you expect Trump, to change his Trump - Card.....

That would simply silence his trumpet 🎺🎺🎺.......😂🎺😭🤣

His Ego, is simply what makes him Trump...... The only thing that could have silenced that trumpet, was if that guy attended all his gun lessons........😜😂

missjekyll:
I am very grateful to whoever advised him to go to this.
He lost the few black votes he had.
I m doubly sure now that he ll lose and I rest my case till November

Zahra29:
Mixed messages perhaps lol....but new data appears to show that working while sick actually costs the economy more than taking time off. So look after your health, know your company's policy on sick leave and take time off (with a sick note if necessary) if struggling with your physical or mental health.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/work-while-sick-cost-economy-b2588311.html

RalphJean:
The dangers of a one side story.
MissJekyll here hasn’t bothered to watch the publicly available videos on the beating the police officers were subjected to by those thugs.

That police office was clearly dazed and befuddled and kicking was the least he could have done in that situation. It’s a miracle he did not discharge any firearms (if any).

missjekyll:
We disagree on this.

missjekyll:
Treated by who? Kicking is the least? I do not fully understand your points... can you
explain please?

missjekyll:
I was saying that at the moment that the man was kicked in the head and stamped on with jack boots, he was already prone and not resisting.

That was excessive force even deadly force and that's why the police officer was suspended .

Policing is an honorable profession especially in the UK where they police by consent. They ve taken a hit in recent years but are trying to build back up a reputation.
Videos showing unwarranted use of force only undermines that.

Atturu:
After paying the deposit and doing all the necessary stuffs in Nigeria, can I be allowed to pay the rest of the school fees in the UK?

missjekyll:
What really is the deal with JD Vance? Why does he brag so much about having children and seek to demean the child free? Dude has never heard of hubris

Trump supporters, how far? Una de support this kain thing?

AgentXxx:
Tbh, we haven’t decided yet but anyone whose finance would make the visa application easy and straightforward. kindly advise on the best method.

Oemmy:
Please,can someone assist me with list of schools in the UK that accept £3,000 deposit and low tuition fees of about £15 and below for undergraduate courses

HRprof:
Yesterday night was a dinner night organized by the conference at a popular restaurant known as Zwölf Apostelkeller we had fun with some guys who displayed music for a tips, I believe those guys are there for a hustle. Fill your eyes with pictures

AgentXxx:
Hi Elders,

I am trying to bring my dad to visit by December. He runs his own business and he hasn’t been paying himself (typical of Nigerian sole proprietor business owners). Now I need advise on how to rectify his finance for his visa application. How many months of statements would need to be submitted as I was thinking of making him open an account and start paying from his company’s account at least 500k to 1m as savings for his travel. Would this work out? Or is there a better way of proving his finance? Your advise is sincerely sought after.

Thanks 🙏🏾

NOTE: he wouldn’t be paying for hotel as he would be staying with us.

Lexusgs430:
I hear people on disability benefits, are not happy with the labour party(because they are work-shy)....... 🤣😂

Green shoots are abound....... 😁💚🤣

Everyone MUST be made to work....... 😁

Goodenoch:
Here's what JD Vance, Trump's new veep pick, had to say about Trump over the past several years, all while being an active Republican - calling him reprehensible and comparing him to Hitler, and there's a lot more: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/kfile-jd-vance-comments-trump/index.html

Very interesting.

jedisco:
Lol... as a populist, he'd pose with whatever trend for the PR. His followers can use this as proof he is not prejudiced against certain groups. On a good day, he might even pose with the BLM flag. The same reason why minorities are usually made spoke persons or home secretary or how Reform campaigners switch from using 'migration' to 'illegal migration' when they encounter a non-white person.

Once a few catch phrases are liked by certain groups, they are doubled down on to lock support in.

ddre330:
Good day chief, do you mean submitting an offer letter from your place of employmentand bank statement having the required amount is enough

I'm having issues with the payslips

toughest007:
Please grow up bro... Grow up! Exactly why I said you ain't as intelligent as you make folks here believe. Tell me this isn't true. Or do you have a problem with this particular truth?

As the class captain here, you ought to have known that you are derailing this platform and encouraging same. I need to point that out too to you.

Mosunmolade:
Thank you for the swift response... How about the appointment and promotion letters. I read someone mentioned it that in other not to cause delay if one has study gap it's advisable to attach those. Or I should just ignore it and not upload them. Thanks

Mosunmolade:
@justwise
Good morning. Is it mandatory to submit a transcript for a visa application? The date of birth on my transcript differs from that on my other documents, but I have completed an affidavit to address this discrepancy.

Additionally, I plan to submit my appointment and promotion letters to cover my study gap and avoid any delays in processing. Will there be any issues if my payslip shows a salary of less than #90,000?

jedisco:
Hehe.. trump is not someone to be debated with. Even someone as oratorial as Obama might struggle cos while a sensible person is reeling out facts, all trump would do is latch on to a narrative, keep repeating it and make it a punch line.

You are sweating this matter too much. Most Nigerians would prefer Trump only for his stance on Abortion and LQBTQ. It does not matter if he's actively working against their economic wellbeing. It's like Britain and immigration

toughest007:
I have come to conclude that you really LACK comprehension! [/b]You can read, yes, but you no too dey understand wetin you read. Your replies are always off.

[b]You think being an MOD gifts you intelligence? You no get am be say you no get am.
Grow up baba...

toughest007:
You see what reading and consuming propaganda does to one out of hatred. You don't even know what 'convicted felon' really means. If you do, you'd know it doesn't have any place in the discuss.

Yes, there are US presidents and presidential candidates worse by all metrics than Trump. Go and educate yourself and stop blabbing what's above your grasp.

Grow up and stop embarrassing yourself. Most of your statements here diminishes your moniker.