₦airaland Forum

FrontPageLawyer:
@Justwise.

I have been following this thread for more than two years which is the most successful I have ever come across on Nairaland. With the recent imbroglio; public opinion has shown that majority of its members support for Costs, Doctors and Hospitals to be posted freely which doesn’t necessarily mean they are here to indirectly advertise for hospitals. This support has remained above 97% consistently in opinion polls since this outcry.

Conflict isn't necessarily a bad thing. If it's open and direct, it helps in dealing with issues and building consensus. As a leader, you should be able to mediate conflict and reach consensus among members of this forum.

Justwise, please focus on the real issues of this thread which is cost and procedures which falls under, Doctors, Hospitals and Costs. When the Mods and Admins disagree with members of this forum and the purpose of this thread is defeated, they burn bridges they may never be able to repair. Do not let other bloggers take advantage of this decision which could drastically reduce your members.

Conflict is a normal part of any healthy organization. After all, we all can’t be expected to agree on everything all the time. Learning how to deal with conflict rather than avoiding it is very crucial in leadership and management.

I'll suggest for the Admins to restrategize because we all understand that the purpose of this outcry is to protect the interest of your clients without breaching contracts and Nairaland's interest is also to maximize profit regardless of members opinion. It is a very complicated situation which should be intelligently managed.

But remember without Nairalanders, Nairaland will go into extinction and out of business while those Hospitals which interest you are protecting will remain in business.

allen0000:
Justwise abeg dont allow this thread to die cos there's alot to learn from here.

neks31:
Ohh kkk!! No qualms shaa God dey!!! But what will DrF do that most of the people here bashing and insulting him used his "doctors correspondence " to enter yonda n didn't send or look Em face as d reach?? Is he complaining?? this is cold world ma fren and we can't let the bad people a.k.a (agents from hell) spoil our show!! Anyways good luck with your decision and I believe that this thread will not die at all at all not until we've all achieved all we want IJN!
S/N all ye Agents from hell tryna cause confusion for us here ehh don't let us pray for una cos when one or two preggy mamas release prayers on top una head hmmmm!! Bye guys as I enter Kermit mode!

FinanceFitness:
Hmmm.... So many pages of argument.... The current position is not beneficial to mums and will not be beneficial to nairaland family in the long run.

On agents and all, free riders are always there in our everyday lives, we cannot do without them - e.g, I pay huge taxes to government, most don't pay but enjoy the same road and amenities the government provide.

Whatever Justwise and co decide - I guess we don't have a choice? It is their forum.

But they should just remember that if there is no more info on this thread, it will eventually die a natural death.


@Justwise, I think things will naturally evolve to the next level if you allow this thread to die - it may be a natural consequence that may take a long time, but it may happen.

bigfido:
Half of the pages on this part is full of argument as against the purpose of the thread. The thread is becoming useless. As a member of nairaland, you can start your own thread and name it "The real cost and procedures of giving birth in US" since the moderator has decided to remove the cost aspect of it. If people haven't done their research and posted them here in the first place, I don't know how you would have even gotten these advertisement you are protecting so much without considering the end users. In as much as I understand that the business aspect is very important, you also have to consider those that make the thread what it is. Nothing stops you from listening to people's opinion and aligning with them to make the thread useful to both the advertising company and the end user. Anyways, that's my one kobo. We all are not perfect, but please sometimes, be nice with your replies . They come across as being rude.
Shalom

neks31:
Some people will just be blowing HOT n COLD at d same time!!! Use one mouth and let JW see he isn't doing us bad by this his new rule then use another mouth n support him!!! Are u with us the "wailers " or nah What is my biz with agents?? I'm here to get info that will benefit my self and my pocket dazzalll!!
Use a random persons laptop n Google giving birth in us that is not a naija and n see if u will smell this thread!!! Yall stay doing d most here.. If u stand by jw n his decision good don't blow hot n cold! Justwise so d agents here won't they also flood ur darling doctorparrati guys n spoil show for us by sending all their customers there?? Or u really don't care about us n is here for your bidness

Ojady:
This conservative government led by Cameron is to a great extent racial discriminating. Since their entry to government, majority of their policies has been anti non-EU migrant. It was this coalition government that scrapped the Highly skilled migrant programme, scrapped the post study work programme; imposed near ridiculous conditions to joining or being joined by one's family in the UK, hiked international students fees, allowed schools to charge well over 200percent from international students and other draconian policies.
The truth is, there is a hidden agenda, a fact they want to hide. For instance, anyone who has ever lived in the UK, either as a student, immigrant, visitor etc knows that living there on a job of 40hours a week is near impossible. You either work 2 jobs or you work overtime on your one job. I personally know Nigerians who do 16 hours of work every day, that equals 80hours a week. These people get taxed massively. A number of them are not on any benefits, they are law abiding, they try to even claim tax credits on the hard work they do , but the systemic discrimination disallows them from following through. The arrogant UK government, tax you for free medical care , something you dont even use up to 10percent annually, cos you are rarely iill; they deduct pensions and you cant even transfer it to your home country until 65 or retired. That doesnt matter cos you would have been so harassed with deportation, their allowing you to stay would be enough. I dont know about other countries but what i do know is the UK employs discriminatory behaviour to cover up the truely significant contribution of not only Nigerians but Africans to their shitty country.

favoredgal:
It's not being blown out of proportion and frankly ur stance is a bit cocky.

dorisuncle:
This question is legal. It is very legal. He does not want to pass thro an illegal route, that's why my friend is asking.
Pls assist

duntano:
O ga I am just looking @ all the current proceedings .. Looking like this thread is going to slolwy die. Smh.. I have been follwoing this thread for some months now. Even though I had my 1st missionary trip in maryland(I didn't know about this then and I actual told them outrightly @ embassy I was going to birth my baby in 2013)I can never forget the look on the face of the vo.
Even at that I have learnt so much from ths thread it would be sad to see it go
I really think the moderator should try and come to a compromise so as to please everyone contributing to the existance of this thread.

FrankAba1:
Justwise, I know you have been a major contributor in the travel section for like ages!

Any idea, why the English law and by extension British law doesn't recognize "Nigeria" as an English speaking country?

Who is deceiving Who here?

porozhniy:
UK govt. has simply selected nigerian proffesionals who are of relevance to them and decided to deport 29k persons they don't need. i don't how they play politics @ international level, but i think the Nigerian Govt. should raise the number of potential deportees to include competent nigerians proffesionals in various fields resident in the UK...it's all or nothing.

slam7000:
Seun tell your mods to stop deleting my post. Is it because I said UK immigration should deport yahoo yahoo guys and illegal restaurant workers at woolwich, barking and Peckham as fashola deported some Nigerians and dumped them at onitsha in the dead of the night?

What's wrong with sending home all those old people to unite with the families they left behind more than 50 years ago in osun, Ibadan, akure etc.

Do you people know how much it costs to send people home in boxes.
UK govt is being very generous by offering to transport these Peckham illegal migrants who give Nigeria bad names abroad free flight.

UK should pack them 3 in a seat. They should lap each other and the one being lapped should lap another person.

remember007:
no no no, don't even think of it. .in UK once you finish your program they ll ask you to leave but in Turkey u can stay and work

justwise:
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Your cousin couldn't afford the UK school fees maybe?

4nobody4every1:
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how do u know

remember007:
To even think that this is a country that colonized us is pathetic, risn y my cousin choose Turkey for her masters instead of UK,.. Nonsense

MayMaj:
JW u need rest... Pls go and sleep, it will help u a great deal.... Hibernation CONTINUES..

neks31:
I've also booked my tix and still looking for a good deal myself, no biggie. I booked to JFK and looking for a good deal all over to book my onward tix so maybe that is her case!!

Adiahabasi:
. she's looking for a good deal in new jersey where she is going......told ppl to pm her abt California...clear?

twingirls:
I seconded.

Meanwhile, I move the motion that the topic of this thread be changed since it will amount to gross misrepresentation if cost cannot be mentioned in a thread which its heading clearly reads COST and procedure. A more appropriate/ correct heading should actually be considered

Austine2020:
Not everyone that knows how to here,I myself dont know how to pm. U are correct, But remember that those old information might not be good for them. because of the city or state they intend to give birth to their LO. Everyone intended birthing city or states are different and every city or states with its own information about good birthing prices & good doctors prices as well. So i dont see it as a problem to give a good information about a doctor or Hospital that can benefit the people that might need them. Remember that information is powerful and without new information i dont think this thread will move forward.

MayMaj:
Since after deleting d post, I wasn't keen on coming to check d latest (maybe someone got a gud deal) cos dia is no point doing dat. I have booked my ticket already so am so in need of hospital deals but I guess now it's not useful coming here cos any post with doctors and prices wount be allowed anymore...

On the matter of checking part one of this thread, I guess most of d prices in that thread would have changed hence no nid to check... I rest my case.

MayMaj:
Gud morn pple...

Me and my wahala Sha, make una no vex ooo @ justwise and Co. Promise not to mention hospital again..

Got a very gud deal in California where the cost of everything including doctors fee is less than 5000...

Mummies considering California should PM me. I hope am not violating a rule here again ooo.

lokia:
Hello everybody

Please any ideas on stores where I can do cash back in London specifically peckham. Or any other idea on how to get money from your Nigerian account without paying bank charges.

Thanks

firsttymum:
I sincerely hope I am.

What's the solution though... I'm out of ideas... How do we get new info from Dr's and hospitals and not share

olokings:
I totally agree with ur view.


@justwise I really crave ur indulgence to review this new policy perspective.
I perceive as being counter productive on the long run.
If you look at the cumulative effective of the inability to post hospital and doctor's costs n packages this thread will become stale very fast.

You will have fewer visitors being that the veterans ll have no need to revisit, newbies (most of who refuse to read d thread and want veterans whom read n gain new info from posts to school them) , those who visit just look at the advert and waka pass....

Furthermore, the very few who pay to advertise definitely CANNOT handlethe population of intensified pilgrims ergo the likelihood of upward review of their prices in due time.

Furthernow with a reduction in visitors the advert customers will discontinue their patronage given d thread ll become expendable to them.

Trust me when members research and bring new info shared here, the name nairalandteens to go far and wide across the states buh if the put such a caveat on such then u are restriction the brand to just the houston axis, I don't think this is ur plan view floor it ryt?.

If I should give u an idea, rather than concentrating on coy advert only, why don't u look at an annual fee of say #2,000.00.... multiply that by the number by the number of annual visitors on this thread. .. trust that given the value of information resident here 2k will b nothing compared.

In addition to that even the so called trolls will have to pay to come and glean info from here. ...

The coy advertising here kip getting their share of customers. ..while those who wishes to look elsewhere kip enriching NL community.

Don't u think this is a win win situation given the likely outcome of ur new policy regime?

Cos truly chief ur focus is to build membersand visitors because without us these coy won't even look ur way for advert.

My candid perspective though. ..d decision remains urs

firsttymum:
Hmmmmm

The advertiser's won't even patronize u anymore if this thread dies. Because that's where it's headed

Lucasbalo:
Justwise, I erred on that. It's visa free for 3 months in most of Europe.

Lucasbalo:
Mexican passport can't enter any country in Europe without visa. Here is another big lie from you again. If you don't believe me. Try Google.

48noble:
Mr Clueless ;
Have u heard of visa free countries being directly proportional to your passport? A British passport brings it's holder visa free to Nigeria.

laplace:
No, I've never heard or seen or read of that before. Most applicants do not appear in person and they do not need any supporting documents. You only submit your passport data page and you get a visa.

nefertitiram:
In the light of the below post, JW just made a lot of sense, because I was wondering the rationale behind deleting hosp names. The MIHS and the Mobap effect are typical examples, and hiding the hosp name is for the benefit of us all in the long run.
Agents are busy advertising for specific docs n hosps, agents r lurking around here on ghostmode waiting for people to discover fresh deals only to pounce on them and frustrate it for everyone else when the hosps are tired of hearing from us. Infact, lurkers have began to make this thread a bad place to drop info, and JW in his wisdom has found a way around it. Thanks Bros, good job!

Here's the thing, like mama MayMaj that found a good NJ price, instead of dropping the name of the hosp, she can drop the quotes and interested people can PM her for specific It is now her prerogative to decide who to respond to or not, as some of these agents may pose as patients seeking this info, but at least, it will reduce the rate at which 9ja patients r bounced from embassy and US hospitals.

Hosps that want 9ja patients should pay for advert. Shikena!

For the first time, I'm supporting JW, Hehehe

shawlar:
I think I also understand how difficult the job is for @justwise but he should also consider how restrictive its becoming for peeps to post on this forum. If we can't post ordinary doc/hospital details and cost here for comparison, then how are we helping others... very soon even poe & visa interviews will be off-limit. (as soon as poe's & individual consulates start advertising )
@justwise; remember that advertisers are coming for this page becos of the number of visits/page views it gets and people would stop visiting if there is no more information for them to gain here or to share thereby also affecting the advertising....