₦airaland Forum

guobe:
You are right in all what you said but do you think it is best to abandon a working ship or try your utmost best to make sure the shop sails through.The Government of the day ain't helping matters so if everybody leaves the country who will then fix it.

flokii:
The lack of foresight from citizens up to the leaders is one reason.. another is the tactical brain drain going on where UK, US, Canada and even Arab Countries offer our Nigerian doctors jobs with attractive pay just to move over to their place and be of service to foreign nations.

It's a statement of fact that the most educated and successful non-native group in the USA today are Nigerians, not even Black Americans but Nigerian migrants. That says a lot.

Olril18:
If they are in Nigeria would they even need to overwork themselves?
middle class Nigerians do not need extra-jobs and they also have dependents at home too who they have to help here too as well...so it’s not only those who live in U.K. that’s helps people.
Or could it be the fact that they overwork themselves because of the bills and all other essentials?
I say that knowing most Nigerians in U.K. were not poor people back home, poor people as we all know can not afford to travel abroad..and they didn’t have to overwork themselves when they were back here.
And sorry if I’m being cynical,most people in U.K. are also reputed for being stingy,which calls in to question how much Nigerians in U.K. really overwork themselves because they have people back home they want to help....
Some couple of things I would have love to add are already added in my last quote.
I think you should just be more Neutral and Balanced in this often tiring U.K./Nigeria discussions...no matter how provoked you are,it should not be all about condemnation of everything in Nigeria after all a large percent of Nigerians will never even own a passport.
And that applies to the other side as well who always mock those in the U.K.

Gbagura:
See as this scamming Indian called Jay is busy hiding people's post so he can keep scamming people. Thunder will fire your scamming ass.

duchess90:
Hello

Thanks for sharing


@Justwise kicks against it also.

Alot of people ask for links here and there and fall victim, hopefully people here learn and stop asking to be added to groups they may never know the motive behind their creation

Cheers

TheGuyFromHR:
Oga Justwise, we argued this citizenship-stripping thing to a standstill in 2021 and I see your opinion hasn't changed - but Lagosismyhome is right as she and others argued then - effectively there are now two classes of UK citizenship, one for those whose parents and grandparents came recently and one for those whose forebears didn't ,


Enjoy the Bank Holiday all. Back to my form-filling.

flokii:
That is not true.. there are standard hospitals in Nigeria now with state-of-the-art equipment to diagnose and treat major health issues.

Stop misleading people with the "fantastic" health system abroad.. You must have social insurance and proper up-to-date documents to use their health facilities i n the US. The COVID-19 pandemic exposed this when mostly black people died from lack of proper health care. How many people died in Nigeria that you so much condemn compared to your USA??

if not for corrupt leaders, Whites would be travelling to Africa especially Nigeria for healh care and not what we have now.. Afterall the best doctors in the USA are Nigerians trained right here in Nigerian universities like OAU, UI, UNILAG among others. A Yoruba doctor in USA trained at OAU performed operation on a White baby still at 7 months and returned the baby to the mother's womb who later had successful delivery after 9 months. That was the first of its kind to ever happen.

I'm sure your type won't ever accept that there are poor White people simply because of your low self esteem. The Dangote you mentioned is richer than some States in US and Canada yet he chose to stay in his home country Nigeria and home continent Africa.. That is part of attributes of successful people; Self-love.

Olril18:
Well. I’m in Osogbo. Average of 20 hours electricity. So not bad. Your points stands though...Nigeria can never be better than UK.
However I have also noticed your posts about Nigeria are usually pessimistic and full of condemnation.
Uk isn’t perfect as well and in some things...Nigeria is honestly better.
Heard of black people slumping and dying in factories due to work related stress. And an African nurse just died recently (making four in one month) too sleeping while driving after a night shift....
Uk isn’t heaven and have its own issues as well...

Olril18:
Well. I’m in Osogbo. Average of 20 hours electricity. So not bad. Your points stands though...Nigeria can never be better than UK.
However I have also noticed your posts about Nigeria are usually pessimistic and full of condemnation.
Uk isn’t perfect as well and in some things...Nigeria is honestly better.
Heard of black people slumping and dying in factories due to work related stress. And an African nurse just died recently (making four in one month) too sleeping while driving after a night shift....
Uk isn’t heaven and have its own issues as well...

Gbagura:
Guys Jay and his fellow criminals are doing all they can to scam Nigerians. You can see they keep reporting posts. Nobody should pay a dime to that criminal. Jay you can go in and hide his post again. I won't relent in exposing you.

Regex:
Excuse so because Nigeria has cheap electricity it is not better than UK? Like, you will pay for electricity and would barely have light. You dig your own borehole and manage it yourself (let's not talk about cost of drilling one). Na wa for una, always celebrating mediocrity and na why Nigeria will never get better because of the likes of you.

bisoye11:
Nigeria is not all bad and UK is not all that Good. Choose the ones that favours you.

flokii:
The "better than" in my statement is relative.. depends on the way you want to look at it, be it weather condition, cost of living, social life, cost of water, electricity etc. bills
The UK for example isn't better than Nigeria.. even US as we speak isn't a safe haven for migrants seeking greener pastures as US citizens themselves have started moving to other parts like Mexico, Spain etc.

flokii:
Nigeria is far better than most of those developed countries our people run to.. It's when they get there and see the way things are that they start coming to terms with the fact that 'no place like home'.

While some are able to "make it" and live fine, most find it difficult to survive and end up in shelter homes, low cost areas or hostels. I know guys that were given birth to in UK that still complain talk more of japa geng selling everything to move abroad.

LagosismyHome:
This debate i guess will never end because of two opposite ends but

She never was a dual citizen. She only had one nationality. Her father might have been from Bangladesh but she never had that passport . Even the country issued a statement saying The clear position of the government of Bangladesh is British citizen Shamima was never a Bangladeshi citizen,"

Do how can British government then impose and say she from there. Are they the ones to tell another country that its their citizen.

LagosismyHome:
Dual citizenship is the key difference.... Jihadi Jack", Letts was a dual citizen so fair play maybe but here that Girl was plain British

LagosismyHome:
But isn't she British. Where was she radicalised, it was here. She was born and raised here all her life ...... so while I agree she might not be remorseful but she is British. If she was from a pure white British family won't she be allowed back as she can't be stateless .

You can't have one rule for white British and another rule for other..... but now the government has done it and is getting away with it which will set a terrible foundation that there are two types of British people

koonbey:
Shamina Begum the one that went to join ISIS and participate in murdering innocent people? Or is it someone else?

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dustydee:
Or it took what I had in Nigeria and now that space has been filled by the abundant talents back home?
As I said, wish me well on my quest to return hiome. I will be much happier as the longer I stay, the more mental stress it puts on me.

AKALAMAGBO:
It wasn’t a waste of money for me coming to UK, I never said that. I saw UK as a better country than Nigeria but not better than USA or Canada. That’s my view of it right from my younger age and still hasn’t changed till date.

That’s how I feel, don’t take it persona. If I travel out of the UK to probably USA or Canada and it feels shit there as well, then that’s my problem. Is that clear Justwise…

Lexusgs430:
May we all make this kind of mistakes.........😜😭

dustydee:
No the one I left in Nigeria but even if I find an equivalent one to my current one here, I'll take it as well.

AKALAMAGBO:
Maybe or Maybe Not..
There’s nothing wrong in feeling some type of way about a country, most especially a country you have lived in for up to 2 years.

dustydee:
I did not because it has become difficult to slot back in to some where similar to where I left. Are you clear now?

You need to understand that not everyone that moved was jobless or "suffering" back home. I moved because I wanted a different experience with the hope of applying that back home. Over the years, I have come to realise that it is not that different from back home and in fact in some cases, the guys back home are more experienced.
But as I said, I will give you and update when it eventually happens, just wish me well and pray it happens fast. Thank you and have a lovely day.

missjekyll:
Woah...bit rude there, dont you think?

It's OK not to like the UK,its a bit rubbish at the minute.

They say 1st gen immigrants are more patriotic than anyone else but let me just say this...

If you ever start to think of yourself as an Englishman, remember Shamima Begum and remember the British Citizens who have been abandoned in the Sudan when they flew embassy staff out last week. When asked, they said the peopleleft behind will have local help.

What sort of country abandons its citizens?

dustydee:
That's because I haven't found a suitable opportunity and Buhari did not help. I am optimistic that the incoming government will accelerate development. Now is the time for diasporians to take position back home before it's too late. Moving here was a mistake for me in the first place.
I will be here to share my success story.

Strata1716:
Not to be offensive but I don’t really understand why people pick Canada over the uk, Canada weather is shit, the time difference to family and friends back home is crazy, the tax rate for earnings is not crazy different from the uk, still the same long wait time for medical procedures, exchange rate to the pounds is very poor and traveling from Canada to other countries for vacation is more expensive and stressful.

Asides fast track to citizenship I don’t see why Nigerians want to move from uk to Canada, I can understand US but Canada confuses me.

dustydee:
Not everyone wants to be here. Some want to leave to other countries or even back to Nigeria, nothing wrong with that.
As I am, if I get a job that will take me to Nigeria, I will be off. Never liked it here and can't wait for the right opportunity.

AKALAMAGBO:
You are right anyways. I never rated UK right from my younger age and UK wasn’t part of the countries I was interested in settling in and still isn’t even though I am here right now. Being here was just a circumstance of failure in securing both USA & Canada visa (I’m sure its same for few folks here), and when the opportunity surface itself I will still move out…. I’ve spent about a year and half here, my perception about UK hasn’t changed…

UK is overrated, nothing much really.

PutinDBomb:
@Justwise when will you take this potential scammer out?

PutinDBomb:
@Justwise Fake ppr alert. Fraudulent agents like Makano and co have used this method and see this one again