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Mercyof:
You wrote almost 7 paragraphs without logical meaning, and u are just beating around the Bush without hitting the nail on the head.

We have been on this issue since June, and if I was an inconsiderate person I wouldn't have waited till now October, I gave you several chances to redeem yourself based on the recommendations I saw abt u on nairaland. I paid you for a simple service since June and up till now u have not been able to make the payment instead u have been accumulating extra charges on my account. You kept giving excuses that ETS is the one with the issue. We contacted ETS to hear their side of the story, as to why they are preventing payment, oyinbo people claimed You keep paying and u kept requesting for a chargeback to the acct. So walspring you want to tell me a whole organization like ETS will lie on u about the chargeback, with all the artificial intelligence and structured processes they have, they won't be able to tell if the fault is coming from them or not. For your information, they have all the records of the dispute filed after payment, they also went ahead to talk abt how u use different acts to make payment, I was on phone with them for almost an hr. The thing is you have been making payment for people in a shady way and u have been getting away with it but when u tried it with my account it was unsuccessful. Your write up here is so filled with guilt and nonsense, you could not give a tangible explanation. I have been patient with u since June but not anymore. U must be called out or boycotted. I am also aware u have made another payment to my account yesterday with paypal and in few weeks time d payment will be cancelled and another $30 will be added. God will help you, the bill will accumulate to $315, I have no time for stories, d case is simple ,go and pay for the toefl registration u were paid for. If u make payment for this thing, there will be no need for us to bring ourselves out here. I have been patient with u since June. $285 dollar excess charge on my acct is insane as a result of your shady ways and fraudulent activity. @justwise is not ur problem, wash ur hand clean and see if anybody will come for u

Any update?

SIMPLIFIED:
This is a snapshot of my account

Have you contacted him for an explanation?

SIMPLIFIED:
This is the payment I made. Toefl app does not allow screenshot I will use another phone to take a shapshot. @walspring you can't do this to me and go free, you will regret this

Sorry i have to remove the screenshot to protect his identity and yours as your screenshot shows his and your full names.

Walspring:
@justwise

I would have ignored this but if I do it will look like I am guilty but lemme just write little words and not to convince or justify anything here because you justwise don’t know the genesis of this issues before bring your revelation to the extent of lieing that you have banned me several times for defrauded people here on exam registration and the only issues about exam registration was when a lady didn’t make use of free score reports due to registration issues and it got delayed which was 2018 or 2019 if I am not wrong, you can check for archives because everyone you banned here you always stated reason for banning them in the messages.

Justwise I want to believe she gave you full download and not just her own side that she wanted you to hear and even when you haven’t hear my own side you have concluded with your big and fat lie that I have defrauded several people here and I request evidence from you on that to clear this wrong accusation and post the several people I have defrauded here please.

I didn’t do a charge back on her account truly her account was showing outstanding of more than $400 plus at first and its shows more $195 which was paid for her and why should I did charge back of $195 and Ets updated $400 plus on her profile does it make sense to you justwise ? And I told her something is not right and I spoke to her about it anytime I called and not Whatsapp call more than 30 minutes if I am not wrong to update her that Ets needs to fix from their end before this can be fixed back and she didn’t believe until I asked her contact ets and make your finding and she did and got back to me acknowledged back and Ets fixed it was fixed back and to avoid issues.

I carried her along with every update from who registered it because am an intermediary between both of them and the guys offer refund back or fresh details because her account has been initiated several times on Ets with several response and I asked her if she tried making payment before on Ets several times but payment declined and she confirmed that yes she did make payment but wasn’t successful then I explained refund the guy offer but I don’t want this to look like it’s shady the guy should fix it and he said until Ets fix their end and he can get it done since 195 to pay and account showing 400 plus then Ets fixed it.

She message yesterday and I saw it and I typed am speechless and I contacted the guy about it and he referred me back to his words and I still said if it because I don’t think mercy $195 will make me large or rich in life so what should I defraud her even when many I don’t know here I never defraud them.

@mercy I think it’s my fault to try and prove innocence to you on this just to clear your wrong thinking concerning this from day one, who knows if I bought the idea of refund this would have just ended there. I would have send your screen shot of my chat with the guy but you will still be thinking as usual so no need and I decided on what to do next after you last message on my chat.

@mercyof I acknowledged you are on the right side concerning this and that’s why you are sending me chats and messages that I felt is too much from you to be sending to me that you will release HELL on me but BE CAREFUL because HELL is a place of no return and I don’t think you want to go there and release it on me because record shows no one never come back after visiting HELL. Lol.

N.B lemme just stop here but this is not to justify my part but it’s funny that I scammed her but I never scammed whoever asked you to contact me that benefited from this before. It is well.

If you did not do a chargerback on her account then who did? She contacted TOEFI and they confirmed that chargerback was done many times and each chargerback attracts $30 charger which accumulated to $285 and you haven't paid the exam fees till date.

This is what i want you to address because TOEFI has a evidence of who did it with several PayPal accounts.

Walspring:
Even when you hear my part doesn’t change your statement and utterances that I have scammed several people based on exam registration on this thread who knows if next will be that I have scammed several people on Sevis’s payment before too will be concur by you before hearing my part.

I said to Mercyof that this is case of fraud and its because doing a chargerback after payment in this specific case is fraudulent.

I also told her that i have banned you many times because of this exam discount business you have been advertising here.

Listen we both know that for 10yrs now we have had issues here because of you promoting one agent or the other.

So lets face this particular case and get it sorted.

Mercyof:
bank transfer with the narration 'toefl payment'

Ok.

Lets hear from him first

Approvalissure:
It is funny how Walspring went ahead to “pay” for my sister’s Toefl before she even sent him the money for it. But it is really unfair that @Walspring did this to me and my sister. This guy has being lying to us since the 1st day we met him. He keeps making payment with a PayPal account and issuing chargebacks immediately after making payment. With every chargeback, there is and additional $30 to the $185. Walspring kept lying and deceiving us until $185 toefl payment resulted to $285. Additional $100, just like that. Now we called TOEFL and they told us we have to make the payment before my sister’s result can be released. This guy scammed us, and he kept deceiving us by making payment with an empty PayPal account. What did we do to deserve this, in Nigeria of today where everything is difficult and still getting scammed again. It is just so wicked of him

How did you make the payment to him? Bank transfer or cash in hand?

@Walspring


What happened between you and Mercyof?

Did you do a chargerback on his account resulting in TOEFI withholding his result and billing him accumulating of $285 for charge backs + the exam fees?

Mercyof has tried to sort this out with you privately since June but you have failed to resolve it hence my involvement.

LagosismyHome:
No they didn't.... that was my brother set. They stopped it for incoming but allowed the current set have PSW

Yes it did affect some students especially those Jan starters

Treadway:
on one hand you are saying it is false. In same breath you are saying it will take time to get their footing. I no follow you talk again, too zigzag.

You are using people's one year experience as new arrival to paint a dark picture of the whole immigration journey even as these people have not actually settled.

Treadway:
yen yen yen, everyone else makes claims, only you speak facts. Over 200 that followed your kin advice, that is their reality. Many that will follow it will still find it to be the reality. If you ain't a nurse or top tier in tech or finance and you're heading or have headed to the UK on study visa hustle, come back and shame this post, with a job tag other than care worker, or sales boy/girl. Cheers

What Pocohantas said as related to the bolded is true to a T, as seen in my circle too.

I don't know where you get the 200 people figure from..i guess one of those made-up figures just to make a point.

Your post is full of falsehoods and lack of understanding of how things work when it comes to relocating to any country not just the UK.

Whether you are a nurse of 5-6 tier in tech you are likely to struggling for some years before finding your feet, it will even get harder when you are a student, but things will definitely change if you don't listen to fear mongers like you.

Very few people land abroad and kick start things withing a year, many will do jobs outside their skill set until they get what they want.

Some of these delays are immigration status related while some are lack of in-country experiences.

Like i said before ..i read posts here and smh

Treadway:
to your first question, I won't call it struggle, I would say that is their current reality, and it is something I wouldn't want to be my reality. To your second question, don't know, don't care. Why should I? I'm in Nigeria, 'innit'?

Exactly why i called it careless comment because nobody cares about facts anymore. Just random online post.

I do hope that those planning to relocate will do the dd and not base their decision on these careless comments here

Treadway:
not a careless comment. She has friends who have left for the UK...as do I. Aside two, that got jobs from here, one as a Nurse and the other a radiologist, everyone else I know who has left for the UK on this study visa as dependant in over a year now are either working at the cash register, bagging products at a factory or doing care job. Her own na 80%, mine na cool 99%. They keep encouraging me, and I keep hesitating cos I just can't do that. And yes, they also hardly see or have time for one another..as one person dey close for one shift, the other dey resume him/her own. Majority of ppl are leaving, and they still communicate with us back home, so it isn't hard at all to see the patterns and know what's what. Everything Poco said is consistent with what my contacts there are expert to a T. And I'm talking about over 200 people.

You have contacts of over 200 people who left Nigeria in the last 1yr and they are all struggling? Let me ignore my thought about that claim and ask you this? Do you know how many years it takes an average immigrant to settle in the UK?

pocohantas:
Lol. All this money to go do care jobs and barely see one another? I am very pro-japa, but this whole UK thing is beginning to look like an organised scam.

Damm!! i read posts here and keep shaking my head at the level careless comment here.

So its only care job are available to people relocating to the UK? Even in that care job do you know how many jobs that are available within that sector? People don't see one another?

Some of the things people living abroad tell those in Nigeria is just away to avoid financial demand or other favours because if you paint a rosy picture the begging plate is out.

Definitely not everyone relocating will succeed because of poor planning and over expectation.

hustla:
Did they give any warning in 2012?

And did it apply to everyone or those just coming in?

It affected mostly those who are here already, unless people are given two years warning else it going to affect those at the beginning of their courses and those mid-way.

In 2012 a year warning was given

LagosismyHome:
Lawsuit will fly left and right...the UK never behave like that . If they remove it , it would be for incoming student not those already here

They did that in 2012 but i did not hear of any lawsuit

mizGene:
I would expect the law will apply to new intakes..everyone already in should still be entitled.

That can only be fair..i hope they give prospective students a enough warning before implementing it .

deept:
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Removing PSW after many arrived here hoping to get one? This is exactly what they did in 2012 and a lot of students missed out.

This is going to be an unfair treatment.

level10:
My folks were “very very” illegal migrants at the time.
Justwise ,You would have gone farther in life if you took time out to learn more than you crumbs you know!

The word SURELY show high level of dopiness, especially on subject you don’t know about.

You have showed your prowess in researching yet you fail in understanding.
Feel free to Ask questions and study the variables more.

Ps…Since you are so busy putting the pieces of my history together,I May as well link you up with my pops.

The gods has spoken! I mean you can only say that if you knew my immigration journey here or know me by any chance.

That apart... so your mum&daddy lived and worked here illegally as a nurse and an engineer for 27yrs in the system that hates blacks?

You are really something else.

Lexusgs430:
I would have asked, honestly.......

I intentionally ignore that and gave him all the info i have, since then he hasn't got back to me

koonbey:


Unrelated: That is exactly the question I always ask moaners.

Recently someone was asking my advice on whether to move and was telling me all sorts of horror stories their relative had told them, to support the stance that UK is bad and Nigeria is better.

So I asked 'Oh does that your relative live in Lagos too now?'

No prizes for guessing the answer lol.

In 2018 i travelled to Nigeria and a friend visited me, while we were chatting he asked if i have investments in Nigeria i said no and explained t issues i have with investing in Nigeria.

This brother started telling me why its important to invest in Nigeria and not the UK and one of the many reasons he gave was that...one day the white man can decide to strip all foreigners of their citizenship and ask us to leave, no place like home, you are a king and lion bla bla bla

Last year he contacted me asking for info about relocating to the UK as Nigeria situation is unbearable...i remembered to ask him about his comment few years ago but i held my peace.

My point is..no place is heaven but where ever you found yourself make an effort to enjoy it else move...

Lexusgs430:
Inspector Columbo, got nothing on you .......

I mean if you were born here and your mum&dadd lived and worked here for 27yrs surely they are citizens or have ILR, that also means that you are eligible for citizenship, so how did you skip all that and come here on spouse visa?

level10:
I was born here in the late 80’s and lived here for 3years before being sent back to Nigeria,God bless my parents ,a railway engineer and nurse .They would Later move home in 2007 after 27years .

Justwise You show a lot of ignorance when you dismiss people’s experiences and give advice based on margins of your beliefs.
I said what I said.Even with a Brit pass,we are lowest rated.

Your story does not add up as you add some unnecessary details.

level10:
Abeg help a brother.
How do I get a job as an engineer here in the uk.
I have been working in a care home since I arrived here 6months ago on spousal visa.
I studied mech engineering in Nigeria.
Please what do I need to do to be able to work as an Engineer.

I asked you before when you will be returning back to Nigeria considering your opinion about the UK.

I know the answer to that question as i have come across a lot of people like you before

They have nothing good to say about the UK but they will never leave, they blame everything on racism apart from themselves.

Everything doesn't have to be linked to the colour of our skin, we need to know our short comings and work on it rather than always blaming someone else even when we failed because we are not good enough.

Munamoqel:
avoid doing this here you don't own the thread or nairaland !

If you start insulting people just because they have a different view then i will ban you from this section.

Everyone of us are free to contribute without receiving insult from anybody here.

Now feel free to shout bully as much as you want.

Munamoqel:
let I said earlier .you head no correct .U are ADVICING a Nigerian Millionare to come work like you and become miserable like you for years abi just to appreciate wages been paid to drivers .

Avoiding doing this here, this is will not be allowed.

Munamoqel:
it's no more a big achievement to study in the UK in Nigeria the Universities dish out admission like recharge cards and with the points based system and borrow POF and small change must Nigerians can afford it .any thing easy to get has low returns you wonder why Canada and. Australia visa are hard to get cos the reward is high while UK is easy Cos reward is low . anyway I have attended both Universities of Wolverhampton and Abeerdeen at different time and I can see there rackets well .UK is for wealthy folks not majority of japa crew ! I dey craze I give oyinbo Man 20000 pounds tution fees when his fellow oyinbo no get and need loan to pay . NDDC ,PDTF,NEDC ,TEDFUND pay the tuition then take study leave . Na MuMu dey sell properties and business to go on teir 4 ( designed to milk non EU people )

In dreams?

LagosismyHome:
Uk have only like samsung, iPhone and maybe one or two other makers so not a lot of options.... if you are looking for just something to use, there is one £120 ish samsung with 64gb that is ok to use

Uk has far more than that, there are really good mid-range phones out there that can challenge house-hold names like iPhone and Samsung

Check Oneplus phones, Oppo, poco, xiaomi and the latest one called Nothing phone 1, these phones are all android and pretty good

Munamoqel:
My friend sold his school with 150 student paying 600k per annum with a gross income of 90m per annum and a net income of 40m . His wife successful convinced him to Japa to the uk with visa .now he can't live to the standard he left in Nigeria and he planning to reverse Japa .don't sell your successful business to Japa to the Uk . millions of uk citizen's are also facing hard time . The school have serious growth potentials ! Developing nation are Haven for smart enterprenures cos under development bring opportunities.

Another made up story to help your obsession with the UK.

In less than a year you have started 15 threads about the UK since you tried to study there but could not afford it then suddenly the UK is a scam.
You always know someone or have a friend who has bitter story to tell about the UK, dude give yourself a break! Let those who wants to travel do that and stop this cry-me-a-river stories

level10:
When I got to Liverpool,I lived between Zimbabwe family and a Brit single mom of 3kids.
Her kid play the roughest I’ve seen.One time the little boy had his lip almost cut off when he fell.Ambulance/police arrived and boy got admitted for a week and came back home.Mom swears at them and cussing their dad’s publicly.Infact she was delusional.

The Zimbabwe guy was a normal black guy,minding his business but the day one of the kids unfortunately rolled down the stairs,there where no physical injuries .He personally took the child to GP for checks
That was the beginning of problems.2sec they involved safe guarding and police,the zim guy flared up,because he felt it wasn’t that serious.2sec they changed it to angry black man.
Long story short ,they took his 2 kids and he had to battle for months to get em back.

There is nothing in this story that justifies your claim that white hates blacks.

If you hang around people with this mindset then you will struggle to survive in this country . No race is perfect, look for something positive in people and not always focus on negative and conspiracy theories.

Are we blacks love and care for each other?

Good luck

level10:
I know You ve lived here long enough to grab what I’m saying.

I don't, please give example to support your claim.

level10:
We all are on a different journeys bro and what I’m saying is,the system is not fair to blacks if you choose to live in denial,it’s absolutely fine.

Give us an example