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Greatgreatest:
So another prophet uthman wrote the Quran in the order it is. Don't you think that some ideas will be lost, and the scribes might not translate it the way Prophet Mohammed wants it to be, or some things might be added.

No, firstly Uthman was not a prophet. Uthman and the other companions that compiled the final copy of the Qur'an were alive at the time of Muhammad(PBUH). The had also memorised the Qur'an in his lifetime. All they did was edit the minor discrepancies in the earlier versions written by the other Arabs in their dialect under the guidance of Allah. Allah has declared in Q15.9 that WE sent down the reminder(Qur'an) and we shall be its guardian. He has promised to protect HIS final Reminder to humanity from corruption by humans as they did with the previous Revelations.

IamBlanco:
Abu... the Quran in Arabic used the word 'Ahad' ﺍﺣﺪ to describe Allah. what does the word mean? one as in singular or Plural but still one.


why do Muslims do almost everything 3 times?

Ahad means uniquely one, one and only, one like none other. It's a one that cannot be pluralised. It's the same as the Hebrew word 'echad', which Jesus said when he stated: Your Lord your God is ONE!

AgentNairaland:
Question. We already know Allah our lord is One. As in Surah
al-Ikhlas 112:1-4. But why does Allah the Lord use the word
“We” to refer to Himself in many verse or ayat in the Qur’an?
For example He says in Surah al-Anbiya’ 21:107 “And We did
not send you (O Muhammad) except as a mercy to the world.”
The word “we” is plural, more than one. Why does Allah use
“We” instead of “I” to refer to Himself? (Izani Mahayudin bin
Abd Aziz, Malaysia)

HOW MANY IS ALLAH?

In the semitic language(Hebrew, Aramaic,Arabic etc...), there is the plural of numbers and the plural of reverence. Same with our own Yoruba language. Royals us 'we' when addressing their subjects, so it shouldn't be a strange thing to you.

Same 'we' was used in the Torah(OT) 2000 years before Jesus, the Jews are not confused by this concept, none of them ever attributed the pluralization to the trinity.Hope you understand.

IamBlanco:
did Allah pray in the Quran/hadith? if yes, to whom did he pray to?

No

Greatgreatest:
Nawa for you to, somebody wrote a book Quran and you are telling me he can neither read nor write,,the onus is on you to tell me how he wrote it, don't tell me any useless miracle o

He never 'wrote' the Qur'an, It was revealed to him in bits by the Arc Angel Jibril(Gabriel). It was revealed over a period of 23 years. During this period, he transmitted the verses ORALLY to his companions. At this point, it was not in book form like we have it today. The learned amongs the companions decided to write out fragments of verses on walls, barks of trees, leaves stone etc. It was later compiled into book form across the Arabian peninsula. However, there were discrepancies as the arabs wrote it in their own dialects and some were not written in the right order of verses. This made Uthman(RA) assemble a team to write out the Qur'an the way Rosulullah(SAW) revealed it. He called for the previous copies written by the other Arabs and they agreed to burn their own copies to protect the integrity of the Book of Allah. The copies of the Qur'an written by Uthman and his team are the very same as the ones we have allover the world today. No revisions, editions and in its original language over the period of 1400 years. How many books can boast of this?

Folohunsho20:
جزاكم اللّه خيرا علي هذه المنشورة المتّعظة

It's just what I need for someone arguing with me that only intention suffices

That's the excuse 'liberal' Muslims give to feel better about their actions.

MetaPhysical:
Maikanti will get retirement and other privileges from NNPC for life.

How long was he in NNPC?

30 years.

Sukakma:
French footballers are funny..Muslim bearing Benjamin?? Paul (Pogba)..Frank (Ribery)..that's nice sha

Converts

Franck Ribery – Christianity to Islam. Franck Ribery was born on 7 April 1983. He converted to Islam in the year 2002 by the influence of his wife Wahiba who is of Algerian descent. He added the name Bilal after the conversion.

dominique:
He has modified one of his last posts, the complete story is on page 2. Thank God he's back home safe and sound. This should serve as a lesson to others that the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.

Thanks jare, I've read it too. There's no such thing as easy money anywhere. You have to work hard for it! Anyone lavishing money anyhow most likely got it through suspicious means. Besides Ghana is fast becoming the hub of ritual money. Most of their money ritualists even have Facebook pages where they advertise. I won't be surprised if our people have gotten involved in it.

Where's OP o? The way the thread is moving, we'll get to page 20 before we see the next post!

professor100:
I smell hate. Are there not radical Christians as there are in Islam. Or does the Bible supports all kinds of atrocities that pastors in Nigeria do commit. Records have shown that Muslim's are the majority of the victims in most attacks. Shouldn't all come together to stamp out irregularities and ignominy in our religions. Or uae, Qatar, Saudi etc. Are they not Islamic countries?

Some xtians are funny. Their mindset and posts on this platform just shows that either they are myopic in thinking or they are just haters.


The same way you think of your religion as the perfect one is the same way others( Buddhism , Judaism, etc) think of theirs.

God created Man. Men created religion to worship him. And they do that in different ways. But one thing is peculiar to all of them, they all encourage righteousness. But that doesn't means that their are no bad eggs amongst people from those religion. Or Satan deluded beings.

Am a keen believer of this. There is only one God, with different faces. Many know him with different names in different places. And all seeks his favour.


Let everyone practice their religion in peace and let's support one another to rid out extremism

While other Imams are spreading messages of peace and dissociation Islam from ISIS and other acts of terror, this one is fuelling the flames of hatred towards a religion he claims to follow. Of course he's the darling of gullible non Muslims. The cling to his Islamophobic words and maggot to shit. Of course, I wasn't disappointed with the kinds of responses I've seen so far.

We'll never stop saying it.. ISIS is a propaganda that has nothing do do with Islam.

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Lukuluku69:
You will never hear the likes of Yusuf Chambers, Yusuf Islam, Yusuf Estee and many others come online and disparage Christianity. Never. All they do is praise their Lord for the Light of Islam and try to reason with others why they made that choice. Humbled by the Divine Grace they all are.

But when one guy thinks Islam is a burden and changes Camp, you will hear all manners of things most of them made up.

Very true. Dr Gerald Derks(rahimullah) was an ordained pastor of a babtist church. Yusuf Estes was a preacher, Yusha Evans a youth minister before going to Bible school. It was there he found the bible to be handworks of men and he left Christianity, later found Islam. All these men used to be in the top echelons of Christianity, they left, but they didn't dedicate their time and effort to insult Christians or spread lies about them. They give da'wah and try to make non Muslims see the beauty of Islam.

It's former Bible scholars like Bart Ehrman, who left Christianity for atheism, that gives disparaging lectures about their former religion. May Allah guide him right.

Lukuluku69:
My bad my Sister. Have you ever come across any Muslim flaunting these Reverts?

Alhamdullilah for the Guidance of Islam.

No problem sir. Of course we'll never rub it in their faces. If you notice these reverts, you hardly see them insulting Christianity. But fake ex Muslims like Ergon Canner, Kamal Saleem etc have made fame and fortunes by spreading falsehoods and insulting Islam. They're being disgraced one by one. The real punishment of Allah awaits them in the Aakhirah, except they repent.

TommyAnthem:
I empathise with you as a female in a religion that has no place for your kind, a religion that recognises you as an object of comfort and nothing more, just a little above animals. Have you read "Daughters of Arabia", if no, please go get it and digest it without bias, it describes the place of women in Islam. Mind you it was written by one of the daughters from the royal family before you start blabbing about its authenticity.....
(Christ loves you
irrespective of your gender), I love you too irrespective of the religious divide.

Keep your empathy to yourself sir. I don't need to read some silly book about the rights of women in Islam, when the Qur'an and the books of hadiths have made it abundantly clear.

While the bible encourages the rapist to marry his rape victim, Islam forbids a woman from being forced into marriage.

A woman has the right to inherit from her father's estate, in Europe, up to the 1800s a a woman had no such rights and any wealth she owns belongs to her husband.

On the issue of wealth, any wealth that belongs to a woman is hers to spend as she likes. She may give to her husband if she wants, but she must not be forced. For instance, I have 500k and my husband has 5k, my 500k is mine to spend as I wish; its my husband's duty to use his 5k to cater to the family's needs. If I wish to, I can give from my own, but it's not by force.

A woman can request for a divorce if she has good reasons to.

Before Islam, Arabs used to bury their daughters alive. Islam came to abolish that.

A recent report by the BBC stated that with the widespread conversion to Islam, more FEMALES than males were recorded to have accepted Islam.I can send the link to you for verification. Why?

Lukuluku69:
My brother I tire oo. Leave Islam and Muslims alone they will not. Always coming up with Lies upon Lies to further their agenda. Sinead O'Connor said she searched all Scriptures and all points to Islam and today she is a Muslim. You will find the Muslims praying and wishing her well. You hardly see Muslims bragging about it but you will find them most humble towards News like this. On the other hand, Christians will make a Stories to further their lying agenda. This guy OLAADEGBU will forever be scurrying the Internet for such lies.

I can go to the Internet and bring up stories of Reverts, people with a Face and a Name and plaster it all over Nairaland but to what effect is that? We Muslims are Humbled by Allah's Mercy.

In this we must not keep silent, when we see Lies, please shoot it down.

Of course. Yusuf Estes, Yusha Evans, Hamza Yusuf, Yusuf Cerantonio and so many others have spoken on why they left Christianity. It all boils down to the same reason, Christianity didn't give reasonable answers to their questions, told them to have faith in christ bla bla.

Alhamdulillah for the guidance of Islam.

Also, I'm ukhtee sir, not akhee

Lukuluku69:
I know every Christian you come across has a different Malady depending on the Heresy he/she subscribes to. I am not surprised if one Grandmaster leave one Occult for another. All na same.

And are you guys not ashamed to be repeating that part in Mathew where the Devil was carrying the 1/3 part of God on an excursion? Satan carrying and showing God what he created? And asking for a bow in order to give him what belongs to him? Does that make any sense to you? When next you reply me, I am going to allow my 9yrs Old to reply you.

There is nothing unique about your Bible. If you guys will just let Islam and Muslims be, I don't have any need to reply your nonsense but you won't and we also we answer in kind.

Ex Christian, Tim(now Mohammed) Humble once said 'the only way one can survive in Christianity is by absolute ignorance'. Their Bible is filled with inaccuracies and contradiction, yet they claim it was inspired by 'god the holy spirit'. They're not allowed to question the biblical errors. Asking such questions makes you an unbeliever. All you need is to believe Jesus died for your sins and salvation awaits .

TommyAnthem:
Don't you know that evil spreads more than good, so stop bragging about your religion being the fastest growing, more than half of the converts where done under compulsion. "quantity of any product without quality" is nonsense.

You might want to provide evidence to backup your claims. Islam is completely against forcing people to accept it. The evil fundamentalists are anti Islam. Google fastest growing religion and see for yourself. Ask yourself why Americans and Europeans are joining Islam en masse. Read on converts and what led to their conversion. People are the truth in Islam, in spite of the falsehoods and propaganda against it. It is the Religion of the Creator of the Universe and no one can destroy it.

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Maximus69:
As you've known, all their bowing has nothing to do with virtue so God condemned them with their hypocritical bowing that's of NO benefits!
You can never see JWs bowing down but the Love for our God, pure worship and neighbours is paramount. That's why we're able to reach hearts NOT just some dogmatic posture of worship but something that's from the heart! Habakkuk 2:4 Romans 1:17

Moses and Jesus bowing had nothing to do with virtue??

TommyAnthem:
@Lukuluku69, what do you have to say about this...because according to you, the Quran is faultless.

As recently as 1993 the supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz declared "The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment." In a televised debate aired on Iraqi Al-Fayhaa TV (October 31, 2007), Muslim Researcher on Astronomy Fadhel Al-Sa'd also declared that the Earth is flat as evidenced by Qur'anic verses and that the sun is much smaller than the Earth and revolves around it. As devout Muslims, they have good reason to conclude the Earth is flat; the Qur'anic verses 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:48, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30, 88:20 and 91:6 all clearly state this. While many have attempted to explain away this oddity, they prey on their listeners ignorance. There is no escaping the fact that, according to the Qur'an, the earth is flat.

Don't bother with the links, I've gone searching about the two people you posted.

I read on Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, I didn't see anywhere he said whoever claims the earth is round must be punished. He did disagree with the University of Medinah regarding the shape of the earth. You neglected to mention that the scientists of the University of Medinah were all Muslims too.

Same with your 'Researcher on Astronomy' Fadhel Al-Sa'd. The televised debate you spoke one sidedly about was between him and a Muslim physicist. The guy is not a scientist, but someone who claimed to have insight into astronomy. You seem excited to talk about the ones that goofed but conviniently left out the ones who were accurate. Why are you people like this?

TommyAnthem:
@Lukuluku69, what do you have to say about this...because according to you, the Quran is faultless.

As recently as 1993 the supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz declared "The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment." In a televised debate aired on Iraqi Al-Fayhaa TV (October 31, 2007), Muslim Researcher on Astronomy Fadhel Al-Sa'd also declared that the Earth is flat as evidenced by Qur'anic verses and that the sun is much smaller than the Earth and revolves around it. As devout Muslims, they have good reason to conclude the Earth is flat; the Qur'anic verses 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:48, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30, 88:20 and 91:6 all clearly state this. While many have attempted to explain away this oddity, they prey on their listeners ignorance. There is no escaping the fact that, according to the Qur'an, the earth is flat.

Would you be so kind to provide links to these videos?

Muhammad al Idrisi, Muslim geographer was one of the first to describe the earth as round. He drew a very detailed atlas describing this. This was in the early 12th century. Christians kicked against it. It wasn't till about a century later that they reluctantly agreed. Some Christians today still think the earth is flat and scientists saying it's not a all part of a big conspiracy . They have a website and all, flatearters.com or so.

Those verses you poured out are not talking about the planet earth, but earth as in the ground we walk on. The earth was named as a planet by recent scientists so verses revealed about the earth 1400 years ago couldn't have been talking about the planet.

The Qur'an does talk about the day and night rolling into each other through the movements of the sun. Also says the sun is not stationary, it also revolves in its orbit. Scientists proved that very recently. The Qur'an states that the universe is constantly expanding, something astronomers recently discovered. I could go on and on, but I gat work to do jare

1StopRudeness:
How has science proved the Qur'an...God isn't provable by physical address...weda christain or Muslim faith or anyother faith......u can't point t to him and say he's here..its by multiple testimonies and evidences
.science works on facts and multiple validation .....the Qur'an goes completely against that principle of science yet u say science proved the Qur'an..

There were some things mentioned casually mentioned in the Qur'an that science came to prove.

Qur'an says the sun is a shining light while the moon is a derived light the bible goofed big time on this one.

That mountains are like stakes(pillars)

Points on embryology. Speaks about a baby growing in 3 layers of darkness.

That iron was sent down, even the early scholars were a bit confused on that verse until scientists proved that iron came down in a meteorite shower millions of years ago.

These and many more that an illiterate in a desert could bever have known 1400 years ago.

Islam has never gone against science, except for evolution though. Muslim geographer , Muhammad Al Idrisi was one of the first people to draw a world map in detail in the early 12th century . He and scientists of that agreed that the earth was round, some Christians at that time disagreed with. It was centuries later the reluctantly agreed that the earth was not flat.

nineone:
definitely, all religious books are contradictory. Some portions of the Koran spoke well of jesus although they turned the whole bible story upside down. Suggesting Mary as holy spirit and god coming down to sex Mary to give birth to jesus thereby calling it delusional for anyone to imagine. There are also portions where the Koran condemned jesus to hell. I can't remember the passage exactly. I've read the Koran and many Islamic books.

That's absolutely absurd. Kindly provide the verses of the Qur'an where you got these sickening facts.

Happy Sunday everyone. Hope we're all enjoying the weekend?

1StopRudeness:
Religious researchers have, ,...the fact that mohammed showed up and claimed God gave him a relegion is technically questionable and summarily a falacy..he single handedly wrote the Qur'an with no one else to validate his claim in subsequent ages...Muslims try to use this fact as an authenticity of of their relegion and book and the prophet...but on the contrary it's a huge redflag.
It seems like a constructed one sided account pointing alot to the old testament doctorine of the Bible but stylishly but pointing away from Jesus which the entire bible from genesis to revelation points to...
.

An illiterate wrote a book which 1400 years ago with words science proved centuries later! Simply because it doesn't agree with your illogical trinity doesn't make it a fallacy.

nineone:
First, tell us which god you are talking about. If it's jesus, what if Muhammed is right that jesus is in hell getting hot oil poured on him? Do you think his followers have any chance? Do you think you are liable to hell in more than hundred other religions?

Neither Muhammed (saw) nor any other Muslim have ever alluded that Jesus (AS) is in hell. We believe in the true words of ALL the past Prophets if God (Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Lot, Job, David, Solomon, Jesus etc), upon them all be peace. They all called to the worship of 1 GOD.

[quote author=Otuwewe post=77138040][/quote]Neither Muhammed (saw) nor any other Muslim have ever alluded that Jesus (AS) is in hell. We believe in the true words of ALL the past Prophets if God (Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Lot, Job, David, Solomon, Jesus etc), upon them all be peace. They all called to the worship of 1 GOD.

SunnyskyTG:
This is my Belief.

The so-called Prophets were Philosophers of their Time, even the so-called Holy Books were written by the past Philosophers through their connection to the Infinite Intelligence.

It baffles me when some people comes out and tell me that the book with numbered pages is the Word of God. Whenever you state an opinion outside the context of the so-called Word of God, they label you an Antichrist.

Are you guys trying to tell me the Words God Spoke, Speaks and can ever Speak have been concealed in a book? If you think am crazy, can anyone compress all your spoken words since the day you were born till this time in a Book? If no one can, why is God's case different?
Remember, He's the Omnipotent.

There is More to God Almighty than the so-called Holy Books.

Say, "If the sea were ink for [writing] the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement."

-Sura Al-Kahf, Ayah 109

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