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Xmuslim:
I was a bit angry with you before. But not anymore. You raised a good point. Anyone can be wrong. The most important thing is to be sincere on your opinion and let it be knowledge based.

Unfortunately,

1. most religious people aren't even aware of the religion per se because they don't dive deep. Most apostates are those that were very religious; those that dive deep into the religion.

2. Most religious people are afraid of the hell fire, hence, they don't trust their brain if their brain doubt the authenticity of the religion based on the available evidence

3. Most religious people are emotionally attached to the religion because they were born into it and they have a lot to lose if the religion is proven wrong. Hence, they're emotionally attached to the religion

4. Some people cannot live without religion, because it is difficult to think that there is a possibility that one may just vanish after death without any paradise and [size=16pt]72 virgins[/size]. They won't have a reason to live if everything end aftet death.

5. Some people don't think that God (if he exist) may not judge us by religion, but by good behaviour.




I wish myself all the best and wish you same. Stay safe dear.

P. S: We didn't abandoned religion because we love hell fire or because we are tired of five daily prayers. We left because we found out that religion doesn't have strong convincing evidence. So we're innocent

Comedian2019:
Abeg which verse promises 72 virgins for a bomber? Is it true?

sukomit:
What religion do you practise now? Which one is perfect to you?

Xmuslim:
One problem I identified with Muslims is that you guys always think you have the absolute truth. Things are more complicated guys. Lower your pride and be objective and open minded.

I don't care if you are Muslim or Christian or atheist. What I care about is dangerous things in those religions should be discarded.

Example, jihad (religious war) should be abolished- Islam promotes peace amongst the people. Fighting was only precibed as a response to oppresion by the Polytheists. The people fighting in the name of Islam today are blood thirsty demons and will face the wrath of Allah on the Day of Recompense

Permissibility of beating wives should be abolished (some will say the beating should be with tooth brush - it's not true): The verse was not to promote wife beating. Neither the Prophet nor his companions ever beat their wives. Only violent monsters, of any faith, beat up their wives.

Permissibility of minor marriage should be abolished: Neither the Prophet nor his Companions married a minor. Aishah was a matured young lady at the time of ther marriage to the Prophet. Again sick pedophiles are hiding behind Islam to perpetuate their animalistic desires.

Killing apostate and blasphemous should be abolished: I've responded to this. No verse of the Qur'an orders the killing of apostates. People really need to atke their time to learn this Deen

Forcing religion on your children should be abolished. Let then decide: No compulsion in religion. The best we can do as parents is to guide them, forcing them would result in futility because ' Indeed all actions are by intentions'...

Preventing your female children from marrying from other faiths should be abolished: It's for her protection. We've seen how our Muslim ladies marry christians, who promsied to let them practice their fate only for them to force them to christianity after marriage. We'll be questtioned on how we raised our children on the Day of Recompense

Forcing hijab on your child girl should be abolished. Let them decide: No one forced the hijab on me. I made the conscious decisionn to do that for the sake of Allah and no one else. Forcing anyone to perform any act of worship is futile, the best you can do is advice. All actions are judged by intentions.

And lots more; bring em on Allah is sufficient for us.

Xmuslim:
do you know that Qur'an is not perfectly preserved as claimed by Muslim scholars? Let's start here.

Check my thread. Can't begin to type all afresh
https://www.nairaland.com/5951651/quran-preservation-mere-claim

2: 106 We have not cancelled some verses nor (caused you) to forget them except we replace them with somthing better or similar. Do you not know that Allah is competent over all things?

87: 6-7 We shall teact you to read(His verses) and not forget, except what Allah wills

Xmuslim:
because I don't reveal my identity in the public.

But wait, are you telling me that Islam (sunni Islam) does not ask Muslim government to kill apostate?

2:217-...If any of you revokes your faith and die as an unbeliever, your deeds would amount to nothing in this world and the Hereafter....

2: 256 [There's] no compulsion in religion...

Xmuslim:
Muslim these days are blaming their brain instead of the holes in the Islamic narratives. I'm disillusioned about them.

Xmuslim:
check the verse you quoted again.

Also a merciful God should never lead people astray. Even if they close their heart, a merciful God should help them or leave them neutral. Why doing negative to them?

mamaafrik:
I am from SW Nigeria and i have Muslims as cousins,friends abd neighbor and i can tell you that more than 60℅ of the he Alfas i have encountered searches the Bible and more than 40℅ of them possess The Holy Bible,and i have seen around 70℅ Muslims claim that the Holy is adulterated and not Divinely written unlike the Quran(some even say the Quran was written by God himself and droppes down) and 95℅ of Muslims said that they don't believe in Trinity ,Jesus Christ death , resurrection and his Messianic Gospel.
Can a Muslim enlighten me why this is so??
Why You say a book is adulterated but a large chunk of the Alfas and members still read
and possess it(When i mean a muslim i mean a Muslim who knows his Onions)

Xmuslim:
lol. Usual response from Muslims to xmuslims. I'm not surprised. I doubt you have 50% of the Islamic knowledge I have gathered before leaving. But again you are entitled to your opinion.

But let me ask you this based on the verse you quoted. Why should Allah guide whom he will and mislead whom he will. is that fair?

...He guides many astray and he guides many, and He leaves none to stary except the rebellious(Al fasiquun).

RichieMichie:
Hey
That viral disease is RHD(Rabbit Hemorrhage Disease) that's in town now. And if that's the case, I'm sorry to say this, You have to cull that remaining 2 rabbits because they are carriers as it is. The virus is very insidious and can remain in surfaces for up to 6 months. You have to thoroughly disinfect your rabbitry and not restock for at least 6 months. Also don't visit other rabbit farms for the time being. You may likely be moving with the virus


And please, cull those 2 left if you don't want another outbreak

emperorshaokahn:
but you women can park all your family members to the(his)house abi?.men are doing women a hell lot of favour by marrying them these days.and i think we(men) should start reviewing that favour.

ImaIma1:
Do you seriously believe that those comments are from men. Little boys that know nothing about life and marriage are speaking from their own small minded understanding. Don't take them seriously.

Bimpe29:
Five Juma’at days without Juma’at prayers. Ramadan without taraweeh and Eid prayers Dhul-Hajj likely without Hajj. These are unusual occurrences. O Allah! We seek Your intervention. Forgive us, have Mercy on us and heal the world of Covid-19 and other ailments.
"Lord we are overwhelmed come and help us" Quran 54 :10.
Aameena Yaa Allah.
Juma’at & Ramadan Mubaraq !

Dagger111:
This is the month Corona Virus wahala is going back to where it came from.

The month of Ramadhan [is that] in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion....

یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ كُتِبَ عَلَیۡكُمُ ٱلصِّیَامُ كَمَا كُتِبَ عَلَى ٱلَّذِینَ مِن قَبۡلِكُمۡ لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَتَّقُونَ

O believers! Fasting is prescribed for you—as it was for those before you—so perhaps you will become mindful ˹of Allah˺

dominique:
Did you blame luggard when Ikpeazu relaxed the lockdown in Abia to celebrate Easter?

https://www.nairaland.com/5783496/ikpeazu-relaxes-lockdown-abia-celebrate

dominique:
Cardi B also voiced out that it's only celebs and rich people they're testing. In the UK a Jamaican lady from Peckham was denied testing because she was not a "priority case" even though she was already exhibiting some of the symptoms, she eventually died at home. Same thing they're doing here, only dignitaries and highly placed people are getting access to testing. God forbid the virus explodes the way it did in US and some parts of Europe before a cure is found, we will be worse hit than those places

Tarabye:
Happy Birthday Big sis, Long life and prosperity, regards to my boy so same with you k4kenny

Daejoyoung:
lol my problem with all these is that Allah has many issues to address which he was silent on, like human slavery and how muslims should see slaves as their brother in humanity, and other issues at least, but allah had to spend time addressing things like these?
Also Surah 111, that entire surah is about Muhammed's uncle and Allah reigning curses on him, Punishments he would receive in Hellfire(both he and his wife) and so on. Can you imagine? Allah dedicated an entire chapter of the Quran just to curse Muhammed's uncle?
l mean l'm not saying you should reject the quran as the word of God, and l am not saying that God can't be so interested in stuff like these ( heck God even reveals verses concerning Muhammed's marital issues), l am just saying they are quite interesting to me and l find it hard to believe.
A more likely explanation to me is that the Quran is a book reflecting the meditations of Muhammed and dealing with his personal life and other stuffs around his society.

midnighter:
Talking about yourself.

And by the way, even if the early church lacked the language to express the truth of the triune God before the 4th century (which they didnt completely), it doesnt mean that the Christian faith in and of itself was not originally Trinitarian! If you read the Bible properly with scholarly eyes, you will see the idea of trinity interwoven throughout.

Thats what you keep failing to understand with all the gobbledegook you keep posting.

Stop collecting sound-bites and small chops from the internet and posting them out of point in order to sound smart. Read the whole thing and come to an intelligent conclusion!

Daejoyoung:
To me it reads like Muhammed wrote this to prevent people from disturbing his peace. Lol.
l mean the verse says Muhammed is shy but allah is not shy to them, and so Allah had to help Muhammed here. This verse is quite amusing to me, to be honest.

midnighter:
And where has that recitation of an ancient text in an ancient language that takes years of study to understand fully gotten you people?

Gosh! Im not even supposed to be responding to this because yet again, youve gone outside of the point but the thing is sounding very funny.

Do you understand Qur'anic Arabic What exactly is the essence of millions of people "memorising" Arabic when they cant speak it?

midnighter:
Lol! As if the Qur'an wasnt written on bits of animal skin and leaves and some of it wasnt totally discarded years after the Prophet's saww death Dont make me laugh babe. Youre the one who has been enslaved and you dont even care to realise it.

Bye!

Daejoyoung:
This verse from the quran is enough evidence to make a person like me become an atheist. Why should such a verse be in the quran?





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SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity.
Surah 33v53

DeepSight:
The Bible is indeed corrupt, but my dear, so is the Quoran. There's a lot of negative energy in the Quoran. And it manifests itself in today's terrorism.

adeniyi65:
This looks like philosophical class to me.from my experience combine with all i have read so far from this thread,I think Christianity has produce more atheists than any other religion in the globe.

midnighter:
You totally ignored the rest of the passage that I posted and ended up repeating yourself and going off the point, which I notice you have a habit of doing when the conversation is not going your way.

You are totally unserious lol tisbah aala khair ya ukhti Better put your own education to good use and learn to read before responding!

midnighter:
Because God was working according to a plan to restore mankind to Him. Its called "Redemptive history" , if youre interested in researching further. The whole thing was part of a greater purpose.

The requirements for people living before Jesus' coming are clearly stated in the Old Testament, so I dont know why youre asking that question.

Lol are you serious? You quoted one verse out of context just to twist Jesus' words to suit your purpose; is it what Islam tells you to do? Look at the context of that passage.





Like I keep telling people on this thread, if you keep picking and plucking Bible verses just to suit your own mentality, you will never get anywhere. Especially when the person can just open up the Bible and check to see that youve manipulated the whole thing and you actually have no point.

Just like if I quote the Qur'an from nowhere

You would simply think you were talking to an illiterate, right?

Smh

midnighter:
Is and not was. Present tense. Jesus is as Abraham was, before Jesus came.