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jln115:
I was talking about the last 9 years as bidixiii stated.

Not the one in May 2009

Regardless out of the 3 crashes and 2 hard landings only one was adjudged to be pilot error......4 out 5 due to mechanical error....says alot!!!

SamuelAnyawu:
Please fellows stop tagging me unecessarily on this thread . Enjoy your Military source.

Marte is among the LGA with no Civillian

slimthugchimee2:
I thought anyawu said that matte was being controlled by bh

jln115:
I'll second what Bidexiii said, since all SAAF a109s crashes were also due to technical issues with the Aircraft

Toju200:
Broda go and check the meaning of overhaul

Toju200:
its not car but an Aircraft.It can be Overhauled. And it will be back to flight.Ok tell me what will now be D fate of the platform if it can't be overhauled When literally there's no extensive damage on the cockpit area...

Toju200:
Bro it can be overhauled and it will fly again

jteku:
Drivers view pretty bad, can this thing run above 50km/h

SamuelAnyawu:

SamuelAnyawu:
. Oga you do videos people want you to see. Na we dey here .

SamuelAnyawu:
Take it easy my man. I'm in Monguno right now and I've stopped commenting on this thread. Do have a great day Bro

kabe1:
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giles14:
for maintenance and infrastructure the TAC makurdi will oversee that. Naf knows better .naija the more you look the leas you see.

giles14:
any idea why just 3 of this aircraft would cost $184m?

nemesis8u:
Regarding the rivet issue i had written on it but deleted it since i felt its best to let the issue die down first so that people don't confuse all the wrong comments with my reply

So the biggest error u all guys made is by wrongly identity the joins

In the Ezugwu mrap picture if u notice carefully u will realise it is not rivet joint which all u guys claimed to be and based ur arguments on it, thereby nullifying all ur arguments

The joint in the mrap is bolt joint which is different from rivet joint

Body panels held by bolt joint can be removed easily when desired

But body panels held by rivet joint cannot be removed easily , it needs lot of effort and depending on the type of rivet joint be used will damage the body panel when the panel is being removed.

So coming to point

Bolt joints r used in prototype vehicles so that removal or replacement of body panels is easy since the vehicle and its parts r still in r & d phase which might require constant removal and installation due to design changes or due to constant testing.

When the vehicle is cleared for production and the production standard vehicle rolls out u will see that most of the bolt joints ( it is possible some bolt joints r retained ) have been replaced with either rivet joints or weld joints.


Also somebody said something about if a crew getting hurt due to rivets after being hit by a shell.

That happens but it is not exclusive to rivets , pieces of metal torn off from the body itself or pieces of equipments or their parts might fly off and hit the crew if hit specifically by HESH ( high explosive squash head ) shell usually fired from rifled guns only. Rifle guns r rare only challenger and Arjun uses rifled guns.

So tanks and vehicles ( if fitted with ) have what is known as a spall liner as the final layer covering the interior of the vehicle . It stops metals, rivets etc flying off from the body on the interior side on being hit by a shell.

Other pieces from equipments or their parts may may still fly off but special care is taken to ensure that they don't . it depends on luck actually.


So it should be clear now

Lurker4Long:
Some fellow here tried to argue this wasn't the issue. I think it was in reference to the Reva APC?
I'm interested what the argument will be with regards to this.

Tobiloba2407:
you people will be doing copy copy and thinking like the generals, without educating yourselves.

kabe1:
These are modern armoured vehicles with Rivets, just like on the Ezugwu MRAP APC.


I don't quite understand your argument Sir.

Tobiloba2407:
Google; "rivets coming off in combat", sometimes i don't know the people we have as decision makers, and why people can't call off their bluffs.

Tobiloba2407:
if a big explosion goes off, around this vehicle and the troops are dismounted, the troops are going to hate themselves, the shock wave, would send those nuts flying like bullets, they didnt stick with proforce i wonder, well if they do the right thing, i wonder where they would steal billions from.

SuperSixSeven:
I am also keen to know the STANAG protection level of the Ezugwu.

SuperSixSeven:
Nigeria has a perfect MRAP designed and produced by ProForce that meets international quality standards and could be displayed with pride at any Defence Expo in Europe and the Middle East. But our incompetent army leadership thinks they can design something better and even thinking the can produce vehicles in their faculties. No army in the world does that. The result is substandard of course and therefore a thread to the lifes of our brave soldiers at the front-line.

What the army focus on:
* Maintenance, Repair and 0verhaul
* Reseaech and Development
Production should always be done by the private sector.

Tobiloba2407:
this ezugwu is a joke of a contraption.....a deathtrap.....you see those rivets, or abi bolts on the body, those are potential shrapnels.....why didn't we just stick with proforce and use this contraption, in our training schools.