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schurley:
As a coach, if you being offered the chance to sig just to two players from the options above, who and who would it be?

Although the question wasn't meant for me.

Son and Mane.

Expert17:
Messi na werey oo

UCL goals

CR7 130 goals on 170 games

Messi 115 goals in 143 games

This is valid. But the comparison is about when they were both in spain.


UCL

Ronaldo

Games 101
Goals 105
Assists. 27


Messi

Games. 92
Goals. 83
Assists. 20

Smile ft H. E. R is a jam i like.

It is protest not riot.

Am I still on nairaland?!
Two topics on front page in one day. What is going on?
Maybe clients that advertise here are complaining.

benji93:
Yes i know, but it's not a reasonable one. I mean there are a lot of variables you are not considering. You are assuming if Messi was playing for Athletico, he would be the only thing that changes. Maybe Simeone won't be their coach. Maybe we never see Godin in an Athletico shirt. Maybe we never see Griezmann in an Athletico shirt and so on and so forth. You see you need to consider as many variables as possible. And if you do, the thought of it would tire you.

The instance was not meant for Messi alone. I included Ronaldo.

Bottom line is, Messi benefited a lot for joining Barcelona the same way Ronaldo benefited from joining Manchester united.

Saying Messi is better because he's two years younger than Ronaldo while not factoring in the the age they started first team football and the clubs they started with is not a valid line of argument.

A Messi minion might enjoy that but it's not valid.

What kind of juju did you do to get this to front page.

benji93:
Permit me to say this, what kind of bullshit argument is this? . Coulda, woulda.Ah.

Oga, it's an hypothetical case. Giving an instance. It's common in arguments unless you don't argue much.

patrickmuf:
The point is that Sporting was and remains one of the biggest club in Portugal so, whatever advantage you think Messi benefited from playing in Barcelona, Ronaldo also had same advantage...

For argument purposes, do you believe (or agree) that Messi (or Ronaldo) would win a Ballon d'or if he played for Athletico Madrid for 4 years at his prime?

randomperson:
Is it Messi's fault that Ronaldo was not good enough to make it onto a big team at 13 years old.

That's how you know who's the best, one has been making waves since 13, the other had to wait for a few more years

Let me just pretend I didn't read this.

patrickmuf:
Sporting are also a big club in Portugal so, your point that Barcelona is a big team doesn't quite cut it...Need I remind you that it is more difficult for a youngster to break through a star studded team.

Not when you are talented. Messi and Ronaldo broke into Manchester United and Barcelona easily.

How big a club is Lisbon compared to United or Barcelona as at then?

Just imagine Ronaldo starting his career at Barcelona at 16 and Messi starting his career at Lisbon at 17.

patrickmuf:
Ronaldo arrived Spain at the peak of his powers whilst Messi started his career in Spain...

Next time you want to hype his scoring record in Spain, do well to start comparing from the time he joined La Liga...

If he had started his career in Madrid, do you think his record would have looked as good as it is? Considering at a younger age, he wasn't scoring much...

You are always quick to counter without trying to understand someone else's point of view...

Oga, you are the one feeling attacked here.

I'm not for or against anyone in this argument but let us argue without sentiments.


Ronaldo started his career at Lisbon at age 17. Libson is an average team compared to Barcelona and Manchester.


Messi started his career at Barcelona. Joined first team at age 16. When he did, he was playing with the one of the best team of that time.

Ronaldo didn't join Manchester until he was 18.

I'm not hyping anyone. The records are there for all to see.

patrickmuf:
For the time spent in Spain, Messi outscored him.

Just to point it out, Ronaldo is 2 years older than Messi so, for Messi to be a couple of goals off his overall career total whilst having more assist shows you how great a player he is...

Ronaldo started his career in sporting libson.

Messi started his career in Barcelona.

Remember that the next time you bring up this 2 years older argument.

melodyogonna:
Absymal for his national team? Wow

Do you have a contrary opinion?

Shatta bundle.

FincoApps:
Paystack and Flutterwave are companies. Talk about their products.

Paystack is Buggy when it comes to implementing some of their APIs
Flutterwave's Bater is Buggy AF

I have not used Piggyvest but I am sure it has at least 1 bug.

Please don't just blindly defend like that.

Oga, what exactly are you driving at? That Nigerians are not competent?

Even popular products that were not developed by Nigerians have bugs. What should we blame then? The non-nigerian factor?

SyIvalord:
We actually went for Grealish but Aston Villa slammed a 80 million pound price tag on him. There is no way through club will pay 80 million for Grealish and you know that.

There is no body in the first team that VDB can "glaringly" bench. His time will come and when it does, he has to show the fans and the coach that he can offer better than the other midfielders are currently offering.

Aston villa won do us like Leicester

LostMyZeal:
6 ballon d'ors....I don't even rate players based on that political crap
Watch the game and see for yourself what's real ok


And if you wanna go by the logic of ballon d'crap ...am sure someone here earlier raised the modric in comparison to the likes of xavi, Iniesta and co issue but y'all conveniently dodged it abi



Let me retweet it

Is modric better than Xavi or iniesta or Pirlo because Modric has ballon d'crap and they have none?

I know say na JAMB question but try

You sha like to look for trouble.

Paystack, flutterwave, abeg, piggyvest are not buggy. They were created by Nigerians.


How would the app not be buggy when you want to rival YouTube on a budget of #50k.

BlueAngel444:
which Sterling is dominating, which league?

You should have just looked away.

Akanimoh113:
Okay
It's not bad for one to like His/Her own Post.

I myself like my own post, Moreover I use Reactions, thumbing ma own post is Annoying.

I React on my posts and other peoples post to show how I feel about the post (If it's a Tragic post, I React, if it's not I also React)

It's your choice whether to Like or React on other peoples post whether it's Funny, Sad, or Unpleasant.

The Reason Why I Like or React on my post is because after 5mins of uploading a post no one has Liked or Reacted on it. So in other to make that happen, I call for attention by Liking or Reacting on my post. Then others get to see it and do the same.

But Who Noticed That The Owner of this Thread hasn't got much likes when making a point Meanwhile the person who Mentioned him got More likes

People who have many likes, what have they done with it?

I had to unfollow someone here because he kept share his own post.

To each their own but I don't like the idea of liking your own post. I've never done that.

afrodoc2:
It is mainly because of that. Those who never watched Pele but grew up in the 80s usually say Maradona is the greatest. Those who watched neither but grew up in the 2000s and 2010s say Messi (or CR7) is the greatest.

I didn't watch Pele but after much research and consulting Otem i would say Pele is the greatest because he dominated at all levels both with individual honors and team titles.

There is a difference between greatest and best. Messi with his serial failures at international level and impotence in crucial international finals can't be greater than Pele. He might be better skilled but he is definitely not greater than a serial winner like O Rei.

It's good to see an unbiased analysis here.

Let me add that people who love Messi think he is best. People who love Ronaldo think he is the best.


I think the GOAT argument is good for the media, no wonder they keep fanning its ember.

etoluw:
i don't see anything wrong with using underscore to separate names. (i agree using namespace is easier or using classes)

as for the array() issue pls educate me what should we use instead.

When you have a long name, it's becomes annoying to read. Besides, the standard now is "PascalCase" for class, interface, traits name and "camelCase" for variables and method name.
Constants are to be capitalized.

aVeryLongVariable is easier to type and read than a_very_long_variable.

WordPressQuery is easier to read, type and understand than either WPQuery or WP_Query.

Checkout www.php-fig.org for more on PHP coding standards.

As for arrays, square bracket "[]" is the new standard. One of it's advantages is that it's becomes easier to read when you are dealing with multi-dimensional arrays. Just try multi-dimensional array with "array()" and "[]" and see the difference.

Melvyn11:
He should lift his own country to win any trophy first of all.

4 Finals
4L's
0 goal
O Assist

Argentine Fraud.

As good as Messi is, this is one of the things that'll forever haunt his career.

patrickmuf:
This is talk isn't about Martial who is obviously my favorite, it's about Messi in comparison with other greats for I am of the opinion that the only other greats that can hold their own against him includes; Ronaldo De Lima, Pele and Maradona and I cited their football intelligence, dribbling abilities, goal scoring (bar Maradona) and ability to create chances almost at will...

You can't dismiss Messi on the basis of the fact that he played all of his football at Barcelona when we all celebrate the likes of Totti, Gerard, Terry, Scholes, Giggs, Xavi etc...It is even funny when you consider the fact that whilst in LA Liga, the likes of Aguero, Silva, Cesc and others before them didn't do a quarter of what Messi did...

Your opinion is your opinion, I have nothing against that.

I am only concerned about your previous post I quoted. You accused others of being sentimental then in the second paragraph, you made a sentimental comment.




The only way to know if Messi will perform outside La Liga is for Messi to leave LA Liga.
I sincerely don't blame whoever thinks Messi will not perform outside La Liga because he has been abysmal in the national team. That might be a strong determinant.

LostMyZeal:
Let's all pretend Like the Messi and Guardiola era in Barca was not a well arranged fraud in Football


Fraudiola and his squad of con men mostly rode on the bias of FIFA in favour of Barca


The biggest and most obvious act of fraud in Football was perpetrated by Pep in 2009 UCL and Chelsea was the victim....not to talk of the sending off of Pepe in 2011 UCL
where Madrid was the victim



It is for this reason that no reasonable individual should ever take Messi and Guardiola seriously.... because they were backed by FiFA and there wasn't much pressure on them


We all know the clear winner of the 2010 Ballon ...but


Why I dey shalaye sef


Long story short....Messi and Guardiola are the two biggest frauds in the history of football

Most fraudulent player
Most fraudulent Manager


If e pain you...you know what to do

After reading the first paragraph, I knew you were going to mention Chelsea.

During the last Copa America, Brazilian players were quick to remind Messi of Barcelona deeds when he suggested that the officials were partial.

But let's leave that sha. Just imagine Guardiola has not been able to win a UCL since leaving Barcelona.

patrickmuf:
David Silva, Aguero, Torres, Costa and to drag it, Michu came in and did very well in the EPL yet it's Messi that will flop...Some of you are way too sentimental and hold extreme view points that makes it impossible for some of us to hold a rational discourse with y'all...

If you watch football and understand the dynamics of the game yet you think Messi isn't the G. O. A. T. or is in contention to be referred to as the greatest that ever did it, then you need to see Unlimited22...

You accuse others of what you also do.

fnep2smooth:
When last do you use WordPress? Then I will tell you.

3 days ago.

fnep2smooth:
Funny enough the latest WordPress is using the latest jQuery. Don't under rate WordPress. New update keeps coming everyday couple with the latest PHP 7. Many things has being added.

For arguments sake, can you mention one thing in php 7 that was implemented in WordPress?

fnep2smooth:
Tell that to the indians who are breaking boundaries in WordPress, Laravel and any PHP Framework, Africa love to bad mouth something but can't build or invent anything. What is the need of creating something when you are not making money from it.
WordPress keep upgrading everyday, Big tech company are recruiting PHP developer everyday, go to Stackoverflow job section and see countries like Japan, Germany etc looking for WordPress theme/ plugin developer. Are you more wiser than them, do you analysis future than them. How can a language that have the biggest community die like that, now you can use reactjs with WordPress.


Before I go you said it's not about the money, lol.... So as you de so if you invent something and it fetches you 1billion dollars and it stop or shut down. Will you ever go poor in your life again. Bro it's all about the money if you like free job. Good work with some open source projects

Where did that user bad mouthed PHP?

Indians are not breaking boundaries with WordPress, they are the ones building WordPress sites for $5. You call that boundary breaking?

The discussion is about WordPress. WordPress works but it's badly written. That's a fact, quit being emotional about it.

I personally wants WordPress to be written properly but it seems WordPress maintainers don't care about it.

If care is not taken, WordPress might eventually go the way of Jquery.


Lastly, leave Africans out of your comments. The creator of PHP once said "All php frameworks suck" .