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Family / Re: . by Karlebolu(m): 10:48pm On Jul 21, 2020
Mumben:
Introverts are the most misunderstood people. Growing up for me was kinda different cos I was not that kind of kid that likes mingling a lot. My teenage years were no better as I had very few friends. I am married with kids and nothing has changed and funny enough, amongst my kids, only one is an introvert. The others took after my husband. Within my neighbourhood, people wonder how I am so calm even though I was born and bred in Lagos, I don't engage in unnecessary gossip, I always mind my business and you know people will always misinterpret ur character. What people fail to understand is that we like our personal space, I so much Miss my 'me' time cos of the unending banter of d kids. Do you know from my observation, introverts are very very intelligent set of people, but they usually don't blow their trumpets. Introverts are very patient, d only people that can remain calm in d face of provocation. I am a CONFIRMED introvert and I don't feel sorry. Only an I introvert will b patient enough to read my epistle

Man! I so much detest your first line.

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Family / Re: . by Karlebolu(m): 10:45pm On Jul 21, 2020
bukatyne:
I do not understand the need for people to constantly prove themselves or why they invest so much emotions on what people say/think about them (perhaps except loved ones to a healthy degree).

I want to be alone? I stay alone.
I want to mingle? I do.
I want to stay on NL all day? I do.
I want to attend parties back to back? I do.
I want to read online novels all day? I do.
I want to write all day? I do.

In all of the above, would I consider loved ones and strike a bit of balance? Bend backwards to please them sometimes? Or mellow on my own to recharge if I need to?

YES.

But to write a thesis on how I am misunderstood or 40% like others in the world or wonder why I am different from party jumping and outing Shade?

Can't relate.

Like a brother said: I make my own rules.



I could remember when I bombarded their thread with my other moniker few weeks back.

They all complain about how they are misunderstood but they fail to ask themselves: who the hell understands extroverts?

Many of those people need serious flogging!

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Programming / Re: I Am Having Troubles With PHP by Karlebolu(m): 9:53pm On Jul 12, 2020
https://github.com/karlebh/help/blob/master/help.php


Copy the code in this github repo and follow the instructions, it's your solution.
Programming / Re: Programmers Hub ( LET'S MEET YOU) by Karlebolu(m): 8:47pm On Jul 10, 2020
ttsoft:
what's the code for this task, please help!

Let me flex my tiny Javascript muscles! grin grin

let three_num = [1,2,3]
alert(three_num)
if(three_num[0] < 5) {
three_num[0] = "small";
} else{
three_num[0] = "large";
}
alert(three_num)
Family / Re: My Wife Wants More Kids. I Don’t. What Do I Do Now? by Karlebolu(m): 12:05pm On Jun 29, 2020
Close your legs!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W8rld by Karlebolu(m): 8:19am On Jun 29, 2020
Let me use this opportunity to congratulate Real Madrid for winning La Liga!
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Is A Programmer's Job Unstable? by Karlebolu(m): 1:48pm On Jun 28, 2020
myles16:



Small small na, 1 billion programmers in India!!! 85% of India's population are programmers? Oga chill

Are you minding him?

The reason we have so many developers in India is because of their population. Even if 1per cent of their population are programmers, that's a whopping 14 million! shocked shocked

Nothing to worry about though, with such a population, they'll have more than enough problems to solve in their country.
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Is A Programmer's Job Unstable? by Karlebolu(m): 11:54am On Jun 28, 2020
lekki1444:
there are 1 billion programmers in india alone. it is a very unstable job if you are not good. but if you are perfect ? like you can bang out codes ass easy as you breath air ? the sky is the limit. question is how many people can get that good ? most people will not get that good because thhe motivation is the money and not the love of it. you are competing against 14 year old geeks who view coding like sex lol. they get orgasms from coding. you get orgasms from the money you think coding brings.

If there are 1 billion programmer in India, what is the population of the whole India?

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Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 4:40pm On Jun 26, 2020
MrBible:
If I give the same task to a CS grad who truly have worked hard for their degree, the CS grad will research and come up with a solution and will not give a common excuse like the one you have given which is comon with all the selft taught I have come accross.

"I have a question for you. If I give you a task to write a program that will allow me from the program you write to execute another program on a remote computer and when the program has completed on the remote computer the program you write should be able to accept a return code from the program on the remote computer. Which language and tool will you use for this?"


You ended up not answering your own question.

Ever wondered why many professors don't do well outside academics? It's because real life problems require real life solutions not theoretical ones.

Your question is even full of tautologies.

At this point, I'll give up. This argument is pointless and recursive.
Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 2:17pm On Jun 26, 2020
MrBible:


I have a question for you. If I give you a task to write a program that will allow me from the program you write to execute another program on a remote computer and when the program has completed on the remote computer the program you write should be able to accept a return code from the program on the remote computer. Which language and tool will you use for this?

Next time, make your request/question explanatory. A lot of tautologies.

Theoretically, the language/tool that'll do the job.

Practically, the language/tool I'm most convenient with or I simply say, I can't.


Answer your own question!
Education / Re: Is There A Course You Will Advise A Jambite Not To Study? by Karlebolu(m): 1:08pm On Jun 26, 2020
Weezyclan:


Are you not aware that Agriculture is the new crude? These courses you mentioned are hot cake now. The government cant provide jobs for everyone, these courses empowers one to be self employed, infact i know some students that already own their fish farms, poultry farms and farms.. they're doing really well.

grin grin grin grin

Any mumu can go into Agriculture without studying Agriculture.

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Education / Re: Is There A Course You Will Advise A Jambite Not To Study? by Karlebolu(m): 1:06pm On Jun 26, 2020
Any Biological Science course.

There's hardly job for a graduate with no experience. You'll most likely end up being a lecturer or a normal biology, chemistry school teacher, unless you have other things in mind.

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Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 1:03pm On Jun 26, 2020
MrBible:
A CS grad can learn any language on their own as they have acquired the knowledge to learn a new language on thier own. It is very important that a CS course covers SQL.

Being CS a grad is not about loving ORM, a language or a tool, it's about using the best language or tool for a complex task unlike self taught that uses a language or tool because that's what he loves.


What do you the think self taught programmers do? If you claim a CS graduate can learn any language, bro, self taught programmers are learning any language everyday!

CS graduate or not, you can only use the tools you are conversant with. It's not a matter of liking a set of tools.

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Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 10:28am On Jun 26, 2020
ARCHEMEDESME:

that's not the problem , the problem is that they over exaggerate their abilities and how much they know . Just think of an electrician's apprentice saying he knows more than an engineer and that an engineering degree is a waste of time .
Most people think CS is all about writing code , by the way I'm an electrical engineering student.

That's the issue with people.

Don't blame the apprentice who claims to know more than an engineer, he doesn't know what he's doing, blame the engineer that can't shut him up by showing him projects he's done.

The issue with this thread is that the CS graduates here are just arguing theoretically.

Whom would you employ, a person who just talk, writes codes that won't run on chalk board or someone that gets the job done irrespective of the type of degree?

...and of course, only a clueless person will say Computer Science is all about programming.

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Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 10:21am On Jun 26, 2020
MrBible:
There are different types of data structures. For a self taught they just use one they have memorised not knowing whether it the right one or not. But a CS grad understands and knows the right data structure, algorithm and language to use for a complec task and these are not the kind of stuff that can be tested in an interview as you need to plan, design and come up with a specification before choosing a data structure and the right algorithms for a task. But to a self taught all these just happens by magic.

A lot of self taught hates SQL queries but they are quick to use ORMs not knowing what types of applications ORMs are good for, to a self taught they are only concerned about the easiest and quickest way which are the hallmark of a quack.


Quit being dishonest bro.

If programming can be learnt, what is Data structures? Infant, to grasp data structures, you need to know your programming very well.

You say this as if being a CS graduate makes you know all the languages, what if you know about a language, you know it's strength and weaknesses but you can't write anything other than 'Hello World' with it?

People generally hate what they don't know.
People who hate SQL, CS graduates or not, simply don't know the language. Bro, everybody loves ORM!
Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 9:58am On Jun 26, 2020
I wonder why you guys keep lamenting about this. You should thank your stars that computer science is hard for an average person.

What would you want educationalists to say for example?

We have so many people with little or no knowledge of what education is, cashing out big time in the various schools they own, some are not even literate.

What about Civil, Mechanical and Electrical Engineers?

Illiterates have taken over their works. It is like this because these so called Illiterates provides real solutions to real problems.

What do we say about those who studied music or political science?

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Programming / Re: Why Do Self Taught Programmers Over Exaggerate by Karlebolu(m): 9:48am On Jun 26, 2020
MrBible:
Not surprised that you know that it is easy to get a job as a pilot, just goes to show how self taught can get themselves into programming too.

Those coding test are just a lottery and are of no use for developing an end to end secure application.

To a self taught, programming is just like magic just because they have memorised a few code syntax, a self taught will say tell me what software you want and here is it for you in no time like magic but will not tell you it is full of bugs and will not do what the users expect.

A CS grad knows that programming is not magic and is not about rushing to code like a self taught does. Software development requires planning, design, security and documentation before coding with the right language and tools just like building a house. But a self taught does not know all these to a self taught everything to him is just coding with the little code syntax he has memorised.


Are you saying we don't have CS graduates that write codes full of bugs? Or is it not in this same Nigeria students cram to pass?

You just being dishonest with your argument against self taught developers.

Memorizing few lines of codes?

To call yourself a programmer really means you are open for business and good at what you do, self taught or not.

If you don't know your onion, you'll lose client, lose job... The end product is to be able to solve real life problems, start a project and complete it efficiently that's what clients pay for. Not your degree, CS or not.

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Programming / Re: How Much Should I Bill For A Local Government Website? by Karlebolu(m): 8:21am On Jun 26, 2020
bassdow:



make sure you harp on that tax payment gateway as something big,also use words like encryption,unhackable,etc to blow their minds

You can see why even the Generation after Us wouldn't Smell an Averagely Good Nigeria - Corruption + Deceit is buried in our DNA.

Most of Us appear Honest not because we are BUT because we're yet to get the Opportunity of taking Advantage of ...

There's no deceit here. It's simply business.

You are building website for an average person, 40k.

For a company, 500k.

For a government agency, you charge 3 million.


There is a business part to programming!

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Programming / Re: How Much Should I Bill For A Local Government Website? by Karlebolu(m): 11:37pm On Jun 25, 2020
bassdow:



Except you're really a developer who can tear down a cms such as WordPress and use it as a framework, would suggest you don't use it Most especially if you plan making use of Page Builders and a Truck load of plugins.

WordPress is good but it's ease of Use makes it easy to be Misused and Abused.

Anyone who can't build a basic dynamic website without a Framework or CMS shouldn't call him or herself a Web designer let alone a Developer.

OP, I suggest (that's if you're not well experienced enough) you consider outsourcing to someone who knows better. You still get to make cool money.

For those asking you speak big grammar, wouldn't support such idea because you just would be creating issues for future contractors and / or employees.
You can't go far deceiving people.

To you all, don't start same thing you criticise other for.

Thanks

You started this comment very well but ended it badly. You should have stopped on the second paragraph.
Programming / Re: Are You A Javascript Expert, Get In Here Now. by Karlebolu(m): 5:46pm On Jun 24, 2020
Give it time.

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Programming / Re: How Much Should I Bill For A Local Government Website? by Karlebolu(m): 5:45pm On Jun 24, 2020
proff010:
2 million

I second.

Make it 3 million, let them beat the price to around 2.5 million.

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Programming / Re: How Should I Learn Javascript by Karlebolu(m): 3:21pm On Jun 22, 2020
www.W3schools.com

You can of course watch video tutorials on YouTube, I'd recommend all those Freecodecamp long videos.

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Business / Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 20 by Karlebolu(m): 1:15pm On Jun 21, 2020
alphaNomega:
be counting pages while others are counting money

O boy! Wetin be your problem?

What if I'm counting pages? Take time!

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Business / Re: Forex Trade Alerts: Season 20 by Karlebolu(m): 11:37pm On Jun 19, 2020
Pg 400
Travel / Re: 50 Nigerians Stranded In Pakistan Arrive Abuja by Karlebolu(m): 4:13pm On Jun 19, 2020
What are Nigerians doing in Pakistan?
Programming / Re: Do I Really Need To Learn Bootstrap.. Please Help A Brother by Karlebolu(m): 10:30pm On Jun 16, 2020
It's important to learn core CSS but if you are working on a project where you are also the back end developer then using a css framework is important and will save you time.

Aside that, what harm will it do you to check out bootstrap, I mean, it's popular for a reason, right?
Programming / Re: .. by Karlebolu(m): 8:36pm On Jun 16, 2020
casperuk:
\\ I can bet you don't know WordPress and Drupal are php frameworks.\\
Of course Mr. Man, I know that wordpress is built by PHP. When I made a difference between word press and other PHP. I was making a distinction between Wordpress 'php' and Vanilla PHP.

\\What if tomorrow your client wants you to integrate a payment gateway like stripe or PayPal?

Or they want to use a faster search client, say agolia or elasticSearch?

Or they don't want to refresh to before getting a message and now need services of pusher?

Or they want to rename the database? \\

Also as i noted, for a situation like wat you mentioned above, it is a job done better with a team.

Most folks just want a quick and easy website that works and with as little coding as possible. Most client can start on a simple wordpress site and then as the business grows they can scale it up by outsourcing the job to a web development company to include those function you talked about.

Furthermore, web development is very wide, you cant be an A+ both on front end and backend. This is the main reason it is best to work with a team.





You make me laugh.

You case is the case of a fellow who is scared of what he doesn't know. If only you knew we have bad asss front end and back end developers.

If only you knew those functionalities I mentioned can be easily implemented by even a junior developer.

You need to widen your horizon.
Programming / Re: Why Do Developers Think Jquery Is Obsolete? by Karlebolu(m): 5:22pm On Jun 16, 2020
 This is a drill! 


Follow on twitter! wink
Programming / Re: Is Learning Js Frameworks Necessary by Karlebolu(m): 5:17pm On Jun 16, 2020
One important thing is, an employer will only employ you based on your knowledge of a popular framework, after getting the basics of vanilla Javascript and programming in general, move on to either React, Angular or Vue.

These are the popular and in demand ones right now, the status quo is changing anytime soon.
Programming / Re: Is Learning Js Frameworks Necessary by Karlebolu(m): 9:32pm On Jun 08, 2020
stanliwise:
This ain’t true, framework are more easier and far easier than vanilla JS. Many frameworks you see today are based on the philosophy of abstraction and this simply means you call a simple functionality like Mail->send() without having any knowledge about the internal large implementation.
The only thing hard about Frameworks is installation and deployment but working with framework is so so easy.

if("you are new to programming" && "Javascript is your first language" ) {

console.log("You can hardly learn a Javascript framework" );

}

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Programming / Re: Is Learning Js Frameworks Necessary by Karlebolu(m): 4:53pm On Jun 08, 2020
spartan117:

Correction.
Most JavaScript developers Learn JavaScript first before moving on to frameworks.
Frameworks are still very necessary, they are not just the easier route, they are the better route.

To add to this...

You can hardly learn a JS framework if you are new to programming and Javascript is your first language.
Programming / Re: .. by Karlebolu(m): 4:43pm On Jun 08, 2020
casperuk:
I don’t know why many in Nigeria are of the opinion that Wordpress is subpar. With Wordpress you can build anything even a bank website.

Do you know that Wordpress powers 30% of the whole world websites.
Python, Dango is about 0.8% market share
Ruby on Rails about 4% market share
Mean stack and nerd stack JS about 20%
Php about 40%
And then the others.

Wordpress is a high on demand skill and it is easier to learn. It is better than cracking your head with coding everything. You can’t do it alone. You will have to learn an awful lot of things and it will take you years.

Do you know that in the western word they build things by team. A website is built by 5-100 people.
But in Nigeria those who want to be web developer think they would be able to learn everything and code anything relevant? Hahaha.

You kidding yourself.

Don’t deceive yourselves. This is why there is Wordpress. It gives you the tools and platform as though you are building it with a team.

I can bet the whole code for nairaland wasn’t built by Seun alone.


I can bet you don't know WordPress and Drupal are php frameworks.

It surprises me how you people talk about western world. Do you know we have more solo developers in this western world than Nigeria?

Why do you think serious companies don't hire developers based on WordPress skill?

Learning WordPress doesn't make you a developer per say.

What if tomorrow your client wants you to integrate a payment gateway like stripe or PayPal?

Or they want to use a faster search client, say agolia or elasticSearch?

Or they don't want to refresh to before getting a message and now need services of pusher?

Or they want to rename the database?

Or they need you to build a website that depends solely on api, websites with functionality of website like IMDB or live score?

Or they simply want you to test their code?

Or they want a single page application?

Trust me, the best way to go is to learn a language, knowing WordPress (a php framework) would be an extra.

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