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Darivie04:
This is kind of funny since any good programmer will be proficient with data structures and algorithms. Just passing sha.

monex:
Very true, I had classmates back then in Uni who thought our lecturers where idiots for not knowing some shiny programming language.

Knowledge of algorithms trumps knowledge of languages/APIs. My cousin works in Facebook but has never heard of React until i mentioned it to him.

Mumben:
Introverts are the most misunderstood people. Growing up for me was kinda different cos I was not that kind of kid that likes mingling a lot. My teenage years were no better as I had very few friends. I am married with kids and nothing has changed and funny enough, amongst my kids, only one is an introvert. The others took after my husband. Within my neighbourhood, people wonder how I am so calm even though I was born and bred in Lagos, I don't engage in unnecessary gossip, I always mind my business and you know people will always misinterpret ur character. What people fail to understand is that we like our personal space, I so much Miss my 'me' time cos of the unending banter of d kids. Do you know from my observation, introverts are very very intelligent set of people, but they usually don't blow their trumpets. Introverts are very patient, d only people that can remain calm in d face of provocation. I am a CONFIRMED introvert and I don't feel sorry. Only an I introvert will b patient enough to read my epistle

bukatyne:
I do not understand the need for people to constantly prove themselves or why they invest so much emotions on what people say/think about them (perhaps except loved ones to a healthy degree).

I want to be alone? I stay alone.
I want to mingle? I do.
I want to stay on NL all day? I do.
I want to attend parties back to back? I do.
I want to read online novels all day? I do.
I want to write all day? I do.

In all of the above, would I consider loved ones and strike a bit of balance? Bend backwards to please them sometimes? Or mellow on my own to recharge if I need to?

YES.

But to write a thesis on how I am misunderstood or 40% like others in the world or wonder why I am different from party jumping and outing Shade?

Can't relate.

Like a brother said: I make my own rules.

ttsoft:
what's the code for this task, please help!

myles16:
Small small na, 1 billion programmers in India!!! 85% of India's population are programmers? Oga chill

lekki1444:
there are 1 billion programmers in india alone. it is a very unstable job if you are not good. but if you are perfect ? like you can bang out codes ass easy as you breath air ? the sky is the limit. question is how many people can get that good ? most people will not get that good because thhe motivation is the money and not the love of it. you are competing against 14 year old geeks who view coding like sex lol. they get orgasms from coding. you get orgasms from the money you think coding brings.

MrBible:
If I give the same task to a CS grad who truly have worked hard for their degree, the CS grad will research and come up with a solution and will not give a common excuse like the one you have given which is comon with all the selft taught I have come accross.

"I have a question for you. If I give you a task to write a program that will allow me from the program you write to execute another program on a remote computer and when the program has completed on the remote computer the program you write should be able to accept a return code from the program on the remote computer. Which language and tool will you use for this?"

MrBible:
I have a question for you. If I give you a task to write a program that will allow me from the program you write to execute another program on a remote computer and when the program has completed on the remote computer the program you write should be able to accept a return code from the program on the remote computer. Which language and tool will you use for this?

Weezyclan:
Are you not aware that Agriculture is the new crude? These courses you mentioned are hot cake now. The government cant provide jobs for everyone, these courses empowers one to be self employed, infact i know some students that already own their fish farms, poultry farms and farms.. they're doing really well.

MrBible:
A CS grad can learn any language on their own as they have acquired the knowledge to learn a new language on thier own. It is very important that a CS course covers SQL.

Being CS a grad is not about loving ORM, a language or a tool, it's about using the best language or tool for a complex task unlike self taught that uses a language or tool because that's what he loves.

ARCHEMEDESME:
that's not the problem , the problem is that they over exaggerate their abilities and how much they know . Just think of an electrician's apprentice saying he knows more than an engineer and that an engineering degree is a waste of time .
Most people think CS is all about writing code , by the way I'm an electrical engineering student.

MrBible:
There are different types of data structures. For a self taught they just use one they have memorised not knowing whether it the right one or not. But a CS grad understands and knows the right data structure, algorithm and language to use for a complec task and these are not the kind of stuff that can be tested in an interview as you need to plan, design and come up with a specification before choosing a data structure and the right algorithms for a task. But to a self taught all these just happens by magic.

A lot of self taught hates SQL queries but they are quick to use ORMs not knowing what types of applications ORMs are good for, to a self taught they are only concerned about the easiest and quickest way which are the hallmark of a quack.

MrBible:
Not surprised that you know that it is easy to get a job as a pilot, just goes to show how self taught can get themselves into programming too.

Those coding test are just a lottery and are of no use for developing an end to end secure application.

To a self taught, programming is just like magic just because they have memorised a few code syntax, a self taught will say tell me what software you want and here is it for you in no time like magic but will not tell you it is full of bugs and will not do what the users expect.

A CS grad knows that programming is not magic and is not about rushing to code like a self taught does. Software development requires planning, design, security and documentation before coding with the right language and tools just like building a house. But a self taught does not know all these to a self taught everything to him is just coding with the little code syntax he has memorised.

bassdow:
make sure you harp on that tax payment gateway as something big,also use words like encryption,unhackable,etc to blow their minds

You can see why even the Generation after Us wouldn't Smell an Averagely Good Nigeria - Corruption + Deceit is buried in our DNA.

Most of Us appear Honest not because we are BUT because we're yet to get the Opportunity of taking Advantage of ...

bassdow:
Except you're really a developer who can tear down a cms such as WordPress and use it as a framework, would suggest you don't use it Most especially if you plan making use of Page Builders and a Truck load of plugins.

WordPress is good but it's ease of Use makes it easy to be Misused and Abused.

Anyone who can't build a basic dynamic website without a Framework or CMS shouldn't call him or herself a Web designer let alone a Developer.

OP, I suggest (that's if you're not well experienced enough) you consider outsourcing to someone who knows better. You still get to make cool money.

For those asking you speak big grammar, wouldn't support such idea because you just would be creating issues for future contractors and / or employees.
You can't go far deceiving people.

To you all, don't start same thing you criticise other for.

Thanks

proff010:
2 million

alphaNomega:
be counting pages while others are counting money

casperuk:
\\ I can bet you don't know WordPress and Drupal are php frameworks.\\
Of course Mr. Man, I know that wordpress is built by PHP. When I made a difference between word press and other PHP. I was making a distinction between Wordpress 'php' and Vanilla PHP.

\\What if tomorrow your client wants you to integrate a payment gateway like stripe or PayPal?

Or they want to use a faster search client, say agolia or elasticSearch?

Or they don't want to refresh to before getting a message and now need services of pusher?

Or they want to rename the database? \\

Also as i noted, for a situation like wat you mentioned above, it is a job done better with a team.

Most folks just want a quick and easy website that works and with as little coding as possible. Most client can start on a simple wordpress site and then as the business grows they can scale it up by outsourcing the job to a web development company to include those function you talked about.

Furthermore, web development is very wide, you cant be an A+ both on front end and backend. This is the main reason it is best to work with a team.

 This is a drill! 

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stanliwise:
This ain’t true, framework are more easier and far easier than vanilla JS. Many frameworks you see today are based on the philosophy of abstraction and this simply means you call a simple functionality like Mail->send() without having any knowledge about the internal large implementation.
The only thing hard about Frameworks is installation and deployment but working with framework is so so easy.