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@ascony

I disagree with you, that this is the best God can do. Its rather a "perfect creation" is a necessity to prove a perfect designer. However for the lack of that, Nature evidentially is the perfect candidate as the watchmaker - blind watchmaker - Nature provides a simpler explanation, whereas God who is himself far complex than the supposed creation and is a problem rather than a solution.
NATURe could be said to be "God" - merely meaning a designer -

Girl, he does not exist!

I'm not surprised that someone believes that upon encounter with an unfamiliar phenomenon, is to presume its supernatural. Isnt that too far?! If there was the supernatural we would live in a chaotic world and you would be too frightened. frogs would fly, fire would freeze, mango trees would grow yams!

The funny thing is that this juju is like a magic lamp and you can wish anything. The Ijebus should have won the British, the Arochukwu should have defeated the British. Our ancestors would have had stable populations, and not be susceptible to diseases. But no, superstition gets tired when its to act

Why is he giving sinners a chance, when he knows they wouldnt change, given he already knows their fate? I thought he does not act in vain?

And the keyword is "believe." and that has its own baggage of doubt

@OP Christianity is nothing more than man worship. This confirms it.

Frosbel, the bible says there are god, satan, angels and demons. Why should i believe that the bible which contains stories of talking snakes and donkeys is true?
Thank you.

^^^ So i can pick door B right? Despite the fact that God saw me taking A?

@folaski

you still didnt answer my question. If i got to know of God's foreknowledge like door A, then i can with my free will pick door B

I doubt if you would see any thing in heaven, since its said to be a spiritual place. LIGHT has only a physical role, and important for sight.

So you heaven hopefuls would be impotent and blind

^^^ Yes, that's if they dont go around declaring the urgency of incorporeal salvation

@frosbel

The only material that backs up the idea of Christian God, the message of salvation is the bible. But you have not been able to prove that the bible contains the truth, and that extraordinary contained within it is true.

'How' can a man know what is actually in his head? :-/

^^^ because so far, i ve had no direct experience of this being, neither is it a selfevident truth, and the definition provided by the believers (ie Christians) is logically incoherent and meaningless.

@ascony

If you think God is nature and universe, or the sum of existence, then God is a wrong term to use, because its a term lost to religion and have a religious meaning and value.

Also, you have been clear that you dont understand God, yet you say a lot about his intentions. However, do you believe HE is life?

@enigma

How do you KNOW there is God? At least you were not born with it.

@ronke

There is no god! You are a LIAR! No god exists!

@Enigma

Its a valid point to make a distinction among transcendental beings. Zeus is thought to be imaginary, so its up to the Christian to emphatically stress on the superiority of his God

@ronke

let me make my own declaration, THERE IS NO JEHOVAH OR ALLAH OR ANY GOD!!!! So i shout louder, thus i'm right.

^^ Thats an empty declaration. Other religious adherents believe otherwise

Urban Legends!!

The Ijebus used their "scientific secrets" and got whooped! By commonsense.

Juju is ONLY for tales!

My question for you Ascony is HOW did you Know there is God? Have you had a direct experience of HIm?

Ok OP, God exists, before he can exist, he must have a character, a definition. And how did you understand this. Also, is he/she/it life and singular?

The problem is: there is Christian God, who tops one religion and there are many other religions with their Gods and truth claims.

So if one is sincere, he would be a polytheist which is eventually a sin in christianity and islam.

I do believe sex is an addiction and should be banned.

Our culture has sadly been used as a defence to pedophile acts ( Sharia peeps) used to discriminate against women.

At least progressive thoughts for women rights have been however treated as western encroachment

If God foresees me taking door A and i become aware of that, can i decide door B?

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=794482.msg9462817#msg9462817 date=1320198009]i wish the lady would cry for the bad state of nigerian roads, infrastructure and healthcare.[/quote]This is another tragedy, like ethnic discrimination. The problem is the lack of tolerance which is horrific. Ppl go around imposing their moral codes on others who dont recognize it. Imagine a Muslim enacting Sharia inspired legislation in the country.

I saw one angel yesterday.

@frosbel

How do you expect someone to cut off deepseated cultural ties to his religion? A religion that already defines himself and "meaning."

The same goes to you. You have not provided one single reason why a man who is capable of spitting lies, claim that he died and resurrected (which is impossible). Its not an everyday affair to wholeheartedly accept extraordinary stories like a man who was born, died for you. And why a book contains all the ultimate truths in the world?

@justcool

No problem. . However, a clear distinction and reason why a distinction btw the physical and the spiritual is necessary.

As to time, black holes are seen as classic experiments for timelessness and the physical nature and influence of time. Also the problem with "real" time is that its linear, that is the past links to the present and present to the future, thus has a starting point. A beginning.

Scratch a Christian and you find an agnostic and a materialist.

The heaven is more physical than spiritual, its filled with gold, diamonds and jewels which will obviously have no use or value.

Heaven is a place, it has space whats more physical than that? I'm sure there is oxygen and light particles + time.

Heaven is obviously a place, a utopia thought up by some human. With no direct experience of heaven, it does not exist.

There was this idea, that the kangaroos made boats for themselves and other animals and sailed off to Americas to pick up more guys then off to Middle East.

Those animals are fantastic and brilliant.

You guys history is fantastic. If australian aborigines are africans, since all homo sapiens emerged from africa, then what value is there in making such classifications?

Africans just want to be JEWS! lol!

Jews black?! Weed is dangerous.