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I'm grateful that my Ngwa people[b] NEVER[/b] subscribed to this foolish practice(same goes for Aro, all of Ebonyi and many others), and I'm of the opinion that this osu corruption does not mesh well with true Igbo philosophy or omelala. As Nri-priest rightly posited, to cut back on human sacrifices(which many other cultures also did), and as a penalty for some atrocities, people were cast into 'evil forests', perhaps to die there. Those that survived started their own lineages, but for religious reasons could not associate with the rest of society, and those who associated with them were also cast out to join them, and thus the osu caste system was born.
   Now, it would be an anachronism to believe that this is the status quo in Igboland. As far as I know, in the areas where this practice existed, it would take some serious investigation by someone who really cared, to discern who is an Osu or not. Besides, the so-called Osu are hardly some people suffering in one corner of the village that no one cares about, but are usually the most successful ones in the community. While the rest of Igbo society doggedly resisted the arrival of the Europeans, the much maligned Osu were very receptive of the intervention, and quickly got a head start in western education before the rest.
     In addition, Igbo tradition has always been dynamic enough to rid itself or adopt practices as the people see fit for their progress in a changing world. . . .these are people that would routinely get together and rid themselves of a god that did not meet their expectations. There is really no room for this  osu crap in contemporary Igbo society, and for the few Igbo communities where people still care about this, the nonsense needs to stop.  To the question at hand, yes I would gladly marry an Osu. . . give me two sef!!!

@NRI-PRIEST, are you saying there is Osu in Nri or not?

@paragonpro,but how many times would they tell you that there have actually been protests in the east. I've seen pictures here. . . must there be violence and bloodshed before you people get it. Besides, there are many other states outside the east where there have been no protests, where is the backlash for those people. Even in the states where there have been protests, majority of people there have stayed away from it.
U people need to give it a rest with the Igbophobia. It's very toxic for this country.

^^^^Guy, do not be fooled, alj-harem is a yoruba proper. . . . I could tell it from a mile away. I have spent enough time with both hausas and yorubas to know which group displays such snake-like characters. Forget story.

What would some people do without Ndigbo? They join you, you are not happy. They leave you, even worse. Listen well, p.hok.e you and your protest, shove it deep into your colon. Why would anyone ever want to be involved in any kind of protest with you tribalistic phukers. You put a tribal spin on everything, and your dark-souls try your hardest to push every Nigerian problem to the door steps of the Igbo. I don't know why it took me so long to realize this; but Yorubas are the problem with Nigeria, and you have stayed true to your M.O here on nairaland. The constant hate, back-biting, and sheer bitterness emanating from these people is absolutely toxic.

My name is Kc3000, and I am an introvert. . . .I embrace it! However, I love to party as much as my extroverted friends, but I'll easily get bored and leave, if the party is not live. . . .my friends would ride it out, simply enjoying the experience of being out in public. It certainly drains me and I can't wait to get rid of everyone afterwards. For me, time spent alone is a necessity, this is the only time I feel productive, and I feel most alive when in deep thought.  I suspect many of our heavy posters here on NL could be introverts, given the amount of time and thought process they dedicate to their posts.

Boko haram is a Nigerian problem, not an Igbo problem specifically,  . . I repeat, NOT AN IGBO PROBLEM. Let the Igbo leaders remain silent, just like those from other regions have done. Gone are the days that Ndigbo rush to carry Nigeria's problems on our heads. Let 'them' sort it out. We can all sit back and watch the country(what's left of it anyways) crumble to its feet, but we would NOT be playing hero over here.

-Shame on you, whom make a mockery of the tragic death of your fellow citizens, by ridiculing their beliefs. It does not matter what your beliefs are, human decency demands we respect the dead, rather than ask them why their God could not protect them. Shame on you!!!

@slap1 Enyi, anything is possible. . .whether it was cooked up by the police or not, your guess is as good as mine.

So, The Vanguard and their journalists, or perhaps the police itself, cooked up this story? Is that what I'm hearing from some people? If you were not present at the location, at the said time, how can one confidently sit somewhere, cross one's leg, and dismiss the report. Only a first class i.diot would completely disregard this report, given the happenings in this country of ours. Has boko haram not been delivering on most of their threats? I also hope that the report is false, but how could I possibly sit in the comfort of my home and wave off this report, with all that has been going on in Nigeria? If it is true, I thank God for averting the disaster, and encourage all Nigerians to be as vigilant as possible.  
  Trust, nobody wants to see a full scale war in Nigeria, at the same time, nobody wants to be on the receiving end of unprovoked violence. I truly fear for the future of this country, because I know that if Boko keeeps heading in the direction that they are going, soon enough they would hit people where it truly hurts and retaliation would be inevitable. We've been through these episodes before, where violence erupts in the north, with reprisals in the east, but it would take on a different dimension if a massive attack actually occurs in the south. I don't believe the average Nigerian wants anything to do with a war, but in the same token, no one ever thought Nigeria would find itself in the 3 year civil war that we had. My observation, even in a one-on-one confrontation, is that there is usually a threshold that is not easily discernible,  and usually only observed with the benefit hindsight, at which what seems like mild provocations quickly erupts into a situation beyond anyone's control. How far are we from this threshold?

Move this to the jokes section. Ojukwu himself was only a leader of the Igbo during the civil war, and after that he was never the leader of the Igbo. . . no one is. Any reference to Ikemba in such a capacity, was always in celebration of his great love for the Igbo, and his efforts during the war. Ojukwu's status as Ezeigbo existed in the hearts of the people, and not because someone crowned him as such. Uwazuruike does not command that level of respect and affection in the hearts of the people.

^^^^^lmao lol lol. . . .igbo boy, guy u are just too gangsta

@Ayowumie, very well stated, but I would disagree with you on certain points. Igbos do not hate IBB, Obasanjo, Gowon, etc for the simple reason that they fought in the war. NO. These people were soldiers intent on keeping the country one, and they came and engaged the combatant forces of Biafra to achieve this objective. . . ok and fine. They are NOT despised by Igbos today for their efforts in the war. But when Awolowo starts asking for the blockade of relief from red cross, and other humanitarian organizations that are trying to get to starving Biafran children, that is THE HEIGHT OF WICKEDNESS. That is not the thinking of someone trying to win the war and return the Igbo to Nigeria, that notion came from a soul that would have loved to see the Igbo exterminated. I know it might be difficult to see Awo in this light, because of what he meant to the Yoruba, and rightly so. He did a lot for his people, but his desires for the Igbo(represented by his efforts to starve them to death) was nothing short of evil, and I cannot mince words on this. Mind you, I'm not stating that Awolowo invented this tactics, it's certainly been employed before.
   There were fears that some of the food might end up in the hands of Biafran soldiers, but such fears exist in all wars, yet people find it in their hearts to permit humanitarian organizations to provide relief for the women and children, whom are truly just the sideline victims of war. Yet our Awo, distinguished statesman, took the most extreme stance possible. His duty to Nigeria as a Federal  Minister did not include advocating for genocide.

Again, why would Ademoyega(directly involved in the coup), Ojukwu, Obasanjo and others just pop out of the blues and state that the coup plotters were intent on installing Awolowo as president? Is it just because they like the way his name sounds? These are individuals that were very much involved in that episode, in one way or another. Looking forward to your response.

[b]BREAKING NEWS. . . . .Okija-Juju commences hunger strike, threatens suicide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In a twisted turn of events, the controversial candidate, infamously known as Okija-Juju is reportedly having a most difficult time of embracing the reality that his quest to become the Eze Ndigbo of Nairaland, ended just as vigorously as it began. Having sold all his land, quickly marrying away his last two daughters, and dipping his hands into the treasury of the Okija Development Foundation, for the purpose of funding his election. . . .Chief Okija now finds himself in a most unenviable position.
   In an elaborate campaign in which no expenses were spared, he took out ads in publications such as TIME magazine and many others, and offered lucrative bribes to an army of romantic youths. The self proclaimed 'Ichie onye ego na achu oso' ran a no-expense spared campaign that would have made the Sultan of Brunei blush. However, the rather emaciated figure of Chief Okija today, as he sits in his front porch sporting a white singlet and brown shorts, as he aggressively gnaws on a chewing stick, paints a completely different picture. According to the last of his eight wives, Mgbafor, he has refused to eat or even talk, except for occasional outbursts in which he violently shruggs his shoulders, looks to the heavens, and pleads with his ancestors to mercilessly punish the architect of his downfall, Commisioner PointB. [/b]

To be continued. . . .

[b]BREAKING NEWS. . . . .Okija-Juju commences hunger strike, threatens suicide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In a twisted turn of events, the controversial candidate, infamously known as Okija-Juju is reportedly having a most difficult time of embracing the reality that his quest to become the Eze Ndigbo of Nairaland, ended just as vigorously as it began. Having sold all his land, quickly marrying away his last two daughters, and dipping his hands into the treasury of the Okija Development Foundation, for the purpose of funding his election. . . Chief Okija now finds himself in a most unenviable position.
   In an elaborate campaign in which no expenses were spared, he took out ads in publications such as TIME magazine and many others, and offered lucrative bribes to an army of romantic youths. The self proclaimed 'Ichie onye ego na achu oso' ran a no-expense spared campaign that would have made the Sultan of Brunei blush. However, the rather emaciated figure of Chief Okija today, as he sits in his front porch sporting a white singlet and brown shorts, as he aggressively gnaws on a chewing stick, paints a completely different picture. According to the last of his eight wives, Mgbafor, he has refused to eat or even talk, except for occasional outbursts in which he violently shruggs his shoulders, looks to the heavens, and pleads with his ancestors to mercilessly punish the architect of his downfall, Commisioner PointB.
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To be continued. . . .

^^^^^Yeske, bros elections have been going on already. Point B posted the link here earlier on:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-819196.0.html#msg9707966

@Abagworo, those were exactly my sentiments when I first stumbled on the original thread, and I quickly voiced my displeasure with the whole thing. But on a second look, I realized the light-hearted nature of the thread had escaped me. I believe the Umunna are just having fun with this, and taking a break from the nauseating daily routine of arguing with Ndi Yoruba. . . . .although some of the more helpless ones have trailed us here.
   So, Chief, do not pop an artery over this. My only surprise is that you were not at least nominated, given how versed you are in Igbo affairs.

Why people respond to the f.o.ol called harem is beyond me. . . . do humanity a favor and ignore the r.e.t.a.r.d.

Dropped(dismissed) or suspended. . . which one is it?

^^^^finally, someone with common sense!!!!!!

@ PointB How many of those qualities that you listed does okija_juju posses? A FAT ZERO. I don't care how many romance section people he recruits, it is your duty to Ndigbo to make sure this traitor does not make it to the polls. I don't know how u would do it, but sometimes the end justifies the means. You already disqualified him before, but being the snake he is, he slithered his way back in. Can I vote against(reject) someone, to reduce the amount of nominations they have?

Guys, abeg free Alams. . . . the only difference between him and the next man is that he got caught.

@ eros trynna delete all that p.orn, huh?

@Lanrefemi Sorry I never saw your response to my post. The Igbo do not lay blame on Awolowo for what led to the civil war, we only give him his due as an enemy of the Igbo. For this simple reason; only someone that wishes the absolute worst for the Igbo would have advocated for the federal government to block all food aids going to the starving Igbo children during the war, as Awolowo did. That kind of wickedness, to me, ranks up there with the characteristics of the HITLER's and MUSSOLINI's of the world. It is impossible to imagine that Zik would have taken such an inhumane stance if the Yoruba found themselves in a similar situation.
     It was more agonizing b'cos the Igbo had seen Awolowo as a friend. As I posited above, Dr. Okpara, the eastern premier,  reached out to help him during the wild-wild west era, and while he was in prison for treason, Okpara and other Igbo leaders did everything to make him comfortable, including providing him a living quarters outside the prison, and paying salaries and allowances to his wife from the Eastern Nigerian government.
     Speaking of the senseless coup of Jan 1966 that you alluded to, I've never been one to admire Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu, Ademoyega etc. no matter how brilliant or principled they were. This overzealous lot set the prelude for everything that transpired till the civil war. On the kind of mission that they set out to accomplish, one must either absolutely succeed or die in the process. They did neither.  However, people like to discount the fact that there were Igbo and Yoruba actors in this coup, and that one of their major objectives was to install Awolowo as the president of Nigeria. Ademoyega(a principal actor in the coup), Ojukwu, Obasanjo(a bossom friend of Nzeogwu) to name a few, have all confirmed this objective of the coup plotters. Apparently, Awolowo must have talked a good game, because many of the young officers in the military at the time looked up to him as a principled man that could lead Nigeria in the right direction. Many Igbos were disappointed, and still are, when the true colors of Awolowo emerged during the war.
   No sensible Igbo person blames Awolowo for the war, nor blames the Yoruba for not getting involved,. . . as you noted, it was not their fight. In fact, I read somewhere of a Col. Olurin that resigned from the Army rather than fight the Igbo. On the other hand, no one can fault the Yoruba that were in the Army for fighting in the war, as they were only executing their duties as soldiers. Since the war ended, I regret to note that it has mostly been Yorubas that have taken the unwise decision to antagonize the Igbo about the events of the war, and during Obasanjo's civilian regime, it was pretty much government policy to do so. Obj himself, as a sitting president, on more than one occasion expressed his disdain for a section of the country he was supposed to be leading, a serving minister(some adelaja character) without provocation insulted Ndigbo, and was not even reprimanded. When another Yoruba, serving as Nigeria's Ambassador to the U.S did the same, he was summarily recalled and relieved of his post by Yar'adua. Ndigbo have never seen the Yoruba as enemies, but some Yorubas are effectively changing this notion.

@ONAIgbo Ndewo nwannem. Okwu gi di nma ma diri kwa mkpa. Asusu Igbo ga adi ruo mgbe ebighi ebi!!!!!!