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^^^^Just like this thread, most civil war posts are not started by Ndigbo. . . on the contrary, its mostly Yorubas trying to stire up these kind of topics. I don't know what they intend to achieve, or maybe they want to gloat or something, but Ndigbo have an obligation to debunk any fallacies being dispensed by these demented souls. The garbage they spew about their hero Adekunle, whose 3rd Marine divison was the most devastated by Biafran forces, is completely baseless. That formation was in complete ruins by the time Obasanjo took over, according to Nigerian accounts. Col. Shuwa's 1st Divison was by far the most succesful of all the Nigerian forces involved in the war, which is common knowledge, but instead of ascertaining the true facts of the events, these hopeless glory hunters run around spewing rubbish. They are the true sore losers, obviously whatever they hoped for Ndigbo did not materialize. . . hence all the pent up bitterness and frustration.

Stay strong bro. Some very good suggestions have been made here already, and do not hesitate to seek the help of other relatives. . .that's what families are there for.

Well done Tryxo!!!! Voted already.

@Dede1, I would say that with the shortage of manpower and weapons, especially, the size of a Division in Biafra, might not have been similar to what you would find in a standard Army. I would not be surprised if a Brigade consisted of 500 men, given the circumstances in Biafra. I believe Nowa Omoigui alluded to this possibility in his narrative of the tussle for Owerri between Biafran and Nigerian forces. Besides, conventional military doctrine suggests that one engages an enemy force with a larger force, whenever possible, and this would even be more of a necessity with an Army that was not nearly as well equiped as the enemy, as was the case in Biafra. My point is that engaging a Brigade with an entire Divison, in normal circumstances would be excessive and cumbersome, but in this situation that might not be the case. Gen. Madiebo might be right in his recollection.

As fate would permit, Obasanjo did nullify some of the power that the north was wielding. I'm disinclined at the moment to expound on how the North came to enjoy such power in the first place, but I believe people like Obasanjo played into their hands and served as enablers. However, Obasanjo faltered like many before him, in the sense that he was extremely corrupt. . .he left office as one of the wealthiest individuals in Nigeria. Certainly one of The Greatest Thieving Nigerians

About time we grew a pair. . . in diplomatic rows, an eagerness to retaliate garners respect.

The people.
- why have we not revolted, given all that we have been through.

Chinenye, as a fellow proud Ngwa man,  I would advice that you deviate from this your imagined Southern vs Northern Igbo dichotomy that you are constantly peddling. There's a north, south, east and west in everything, even in Ngwaland there's a northern(Isialangwa) and a southern(Obiomangwa) axis. I simply don't understand why you are so keen to establish this division in every Igbo thread. Ndi-Ngwa fiercly protect our identity, but we are genuinly as Igbo as it gets, and we are not a group that somehow fell under Igbo influence. We are not some people with identity crisis, so please lets act like it. Thank you.

Bro!!!!!!! Listen very carefully, I've seen this movie many times and what I'm about to tell u might sound harsh, but deep inside, most women know that it is true(but they'll never admit it). This is your problem;  U ARE A NICE GUY, u pander to her every need, when she sneezes u are there, at the snap of her fingers u come running down, u are never late and u never stand her up,,,,,,u are like a lap dog! Women need a challenge, they need to feel like they are fighting to keep your attention. Of course, she is bored!!!! She is not lying.
   To salvage your situation, here comes another harsh truth. Stop with all the niceness, lovey-dovey cra.p. U are boring her to death. She wants a man and not a lap dog. Right now, she needs to see your bad side. In fact, u need to become an as.sh.ole for lack of a better word, and do whatever U want to do whenever u want to do it. It sounds extreme, but it never fails. The moment u show that she is not that important in your life, then she regains interest and starts fighting to gain that status in your life, but u never let her have it. If u give her that impression that she can do no wrong, THEN SHE BECOMES BORED AGAIN. Of course, every now and then, u throw her a bone just to keep her honest. Of course, she must still know that u love her, but u just have to express it differently.
    Remember, we are talking about women here, logic does not apply. Ever wonder why women love as.shol.es or 'bad guys? Because they NEED that challenge.  I'm not bashing women, I'm just letting this guy in on the truth on how not to bore the cra.p out of women. Just speaking for myself and all the other 'badguys' out there that women can't get enough of. Bro, thank me later.

@Kwezbaba yes o, I just found out about CELESTINE UKWU a few years ago . What a gem! Too bad he died at such an early age,but I really love his music. Good choice.

What gave him the audacity to approach u with such a request in the first place? How did u get to the point that your boss just confidently asked you to bleep him? The guy no dey look face? I believe u have not given us the full gist, but u can't let another human being harass u like this. There's a line and the guy crossed it long ago.

I don't know about Ojukwu and Gadhaffi, both are definitely strong fellows. But I'm a 100000% sure Ojukwu is more of a man than the following people all put together:

Awolowo - actually tried to plan the first coup in nigeria, failed miserably as his plan never got off the ground, and ended up in federal prison. Sold his soul and that of all his relatives just to bear the title 'president of nigeria' even if it was for one day. Alas, the best he ever amounted to was FINANCE MINISTER under a 30-something year old army general. The stench of the embarrassment was too much that he did what all cowards do; committed suicide.

Abiola- This character was an accomplice in the looting of Nigeria's treasury for many years, and then turned around and tried to demand power from his partners in crime. At the end of the day, he was offed silently, along with some of his family and nothing really happened. Neither he, nor his army of noise-makers exacted any retribution.

The weeping Generals- The[b] most shameless display of cowardice[/b] ever recorded in the history of the Nigerian military, played out when[b] Generals Diya, Adisa, Olarenwaju, and a bunch of other yorubas[/b] decided it was their own turn to man up and plan a coup in Nigeria, since everyone else had done so. Unlike other coups before this one, be it succesful or not, we were confronted by the spectacle of so called Generals crying like little girls, and prostrating before junior officers like Captains and Majors. The cowards completely lost their military bearing and whatever little respect they had, and I could not believe my eyes. The images of Diya and Adisa face down and crying at the feet of a common Major(mustapha) is forever etched in our memories. From the first coup of 1966, up till this point, all apprehended coupist faced the music with courage and some even with defiance in the face of torture. But these 'gentlemen' clearly lacked the intestinal fortitude for the adventure they got involved in. My grandmother has more balls than this bunch.
Just like Awolowo's coup, this nonsense never saw the light of day. SNITCHING like little girls while trying to play a grown man's game.

I don't know about Ojukwu and Gadhaffi, both are definitely strong fellows. But I'm a 100000% sure Ojukwu is more of a man than the following people all put together:

Awolowo - actually tried to plan the first coup in nigeria, failed miserably as his plan never got off the ground, and ended up in federal prison. Sold his soul and that of all his relatives just to bear the title 'president of nigeria' even if it was for one day. Alas, the best he ever amounted to was FINANCE MINISTER under a 30-something year old army general. The stench of the embarrassment was too much that he did what all cowards do; committed suicide.

Abiola- This character was an accomplice in the looting of Nigeria's treasury for many years, and then turned around and tried to demand power from his partners in crime. At the end of the day, he was offed silently, along with some of his family and nothing really happened. Neither he, nor his army of noise-makers exacted any retribution.

The weeping Generals- The[b] most shameless display of cowardice[/b] ever recorded in the history of the Nigerian military, played out when[b] Generals Diya, Adisa, Olarenwaju, and a bunch of other yorubas[/b] decided it was their own turn to man up and plan a coup in Nigeria, since everyone else had done so. Unlike other coups before this one, be it succesful or not, we were confronted by the spectacle of so called Generals crying like little girls, and prostrating before junior officers like Captains and Majors. The cowards completely lost their military bearing and whatever little respect they had, and I could not believe my eyes. The images of Diya and Adisa face down and crying at the feet of a common Major(mustapha) is forever etched in our memories. From the first coup of 1966, up till this point, all apprehended coupist faced the music with courage and some even with defiance in the face of torture. But these 'gentlemen' clearly lacked the intestinal fortitude for the adventure they got involved in. My grandmother has more balls than this bunch.
Just like Awolowo's coup, this nonsense never saw the light of day. SNITCHING like little girls while trying to play a grown man's game.

I don't know about Ojukwu and Gadhaffi, both are definitely strong fellows. But I'm a 100000% sure Ojukwu is more of a man than the following people all put together:

Awolowo - actually tried to plan the first coup in nigeria, failed miserably as his plan never got off the ground, and ended up in federal prison. Sold his soul and that of all his relatives just to bear the title 'president of nigeria' even if it was for one day. Alas, the best he ever amounted to was FINANCE MINISTER under a 30-something year old army general. The stench of the embarrassment was too much that he did what all cowards do; committed suicide.

Abiola- This character was an accomplice in the looting of Nigeria's treasury for many years, and then turned around and tried to demand power from his partners in crime. At the end of the day, he was offed silently, along with some of his family and nothing really happened. Neither he, nor his army of noise-makers exacted any retribution.

The weeping Generals- The[b] most shameless display of cowardice[/b] ever recorded in the history of the Nigerian military, played out when[b] Generals Diya, Adisa, Olarenwaju, and a bunch of other yorubas[/b] decided it was their own turn to man up and plan a coup in Nigeria, since everyone else had done so. Unlike other coups before this one, be it succesful or not, we were confronted by the spectacle of so called Generals crying like little girls, and prostrating before junior officers like Captains and Majors. The cowards completely lost their military bearing and whatever little respect they had, and I could not believe my eyes. The images of Diya and Adisa face down and crying at the feet of a common Major(mustapha) is forever etched in our memories. From the first coup of 1966, up till this point, all apprehended coupist faced the music with courage and some even with defiance in the face of torture. But these 'gentlemen' clearly lacked the intestinal fortitude for the adventure they got involved in. My grandmother has more balls than this bunch.
Just like Awolowo's coup, this nonsense never saw the light of day. SNITCHING like little girls while trying to play a grown man's game.

I don't know about Ojukwu and Gadhaffi, both are definitely strong fellows. But I'm a 100000% sure Ojukwu is more of a man than the following people all put together:

Awolowo - actually tried to plan the first coup in nigeria, failed miserably as his plan never got off the ground, and ended up in federal prison. Sold his soul and that of all his relatives just to bear the title 'president of nigeria' even if it was for one day. Alas, the best he ever amounted to was FINANCE MINISTER under a 30-something year old army general. The stench of the embarrassment was too much that he did what all cowards do; committed suicide.

Abiola- This character was an accomplice in the looting of Nigeria's treasury for many years, and then turned around and tried to demand power from his partners in crime. At the end of the day, he was offed silently, along with some of his family and nothing really happened. Neither he, nor his army of noise-makers exacted any retribution.

The weeping Generals- The[b] most shameless display of cowardice[/b] ever recorded in the history of the Nigerian military, played out when[b] Generals Diya, Adisa, Olarenwaju, and a bunch of other yorubas[/b] decided it was their own turn to man up and plan a coup in Nigeria, since everyone else had done so. Unlike other coups before this one, be it succesful or not, we were confronted by the spectacle of so called Generals crying like little girls, and prostrating before junior officers like Captains and Majors. The cowards completely lost their military bearing and whatever little respect they had, and I could not believe my eyes. The images of Diya and Adisa face down and crying at the feet of a common Major(mustapha) is forever etched in our memories. From the first coup of 1966, up till this point, all apprehended coupist faced the music with courage and some even with defiance in the face of torture. But these 'gentlemen' clearly lacked the intestinal fortitude for the adventure they got involved in. My grandmother has more balls than this bunch.
Just like Awolowo's coup, this nonsense never saw the light of day. SNITCHING like little girls while trying to play a grown man's game.

I don't know about Ojukwu and Gadhaffi, both are definitely strong fellows. But I'm a 100000% sure Ojukwu is more of a man than the following people all put together:

Awolowo - actually tried to plan the first coup in nigeria, failed miserably as his plan never got off the ground, and ended up in federal prison. Sold his soul and that of all his relatives just to bear the title 'president of nigeria' even if it was for one day. Alas, the best he ever amounted to was FINANCE MINISTER under a 30-something year old army general. The stench of the embarrassment was too much that he did what all cowards do; committed suicide.

Abiola- This character was an accomplice in the looting of Nigeria's treasury for many years, and then turned around and tried to demand power from his partners in crime. At the end of the day, he was offed silently, along with some of his family and nothing really happened. Neither he, nor his army of noise-makers exacted any retribution.

The weeping Generals- The[b] most shameless display of cowardice[/b] ever recorded in the history of the Nigerian military, played out when[b] Generals Diya, Adisa, Olarenwaju, and a bunch of other yorubas[/b] decided it was their own turn to man up and plan a coup in Nigeria, since everyone else had done so. Unlike other coups before this one, be it succesful or not, we were confronted by the spectacle of so called Generals crying like little girls, and prostrating before junior officers like Captains and Majors. The cowards completely lost their military bearing and whatever little respect they had, and I could not believe my eyes. The images of Diya and Adisa face down and crying at the feet of a common Major(mustapha) is forever etched in our memories.  From the first coup of 1966, up till this point, all apprehended coupist faced the music with courage and some even with defiance in the face of torture. But these 'gentlemen' clearly lacked the intestinal fortitude for the adventure they got involved in. My grandmother has more balls than this bunch.
   Just like Awolowo's coup, this nonsense never saw the light of day. SNITCHING like little girls while trying to play a grown man's game.

During an attempt to reconcile Akintola and Awolowo, Bros Akin took the high road and prostrated, when Pa Awo allegedly KICKED HIM IN THE HEAD. Guys, when una dey prostrate, try use one eye dey watch the chairman for your front sha, make dey no use person head dey play freekick!!!!!!!

BAD GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^^^^^that's what I'm talking about, u go around believing u can slap people as u wish and things like these could easily happen. IT IS A BIG LIE OOO that men would not hit u back, anybody that tells u that is trying to get u killed!!!!

Some women have been misled into believing that women can assault men without repercussions, that a gentleman would never hit a woman. For your own good, please DO NOT try that nonsense. I don't care if u are in the U.S or Nigeria, nobody likes to be embarrassed by another, and sincerely, most men do not know how they would react if assaulted by a woman. He may walk away, return the slap in due measure, take out his belt and flog sense into you, or beat you senseless a la Chris Brown  playing mortal kombat with Rihanna's face.
          See, u never know how a dude would react, even the quiet gentle dude might be the one to go off and take it too far( Chris Brown was an angel till he snapped, for whatever reason). Heck, even the dude doesn't know how he would react, so please lets save all parties involved the headache and restrain  from these violent tendencies.  It is not a sign of courage, or you wouldn't be worrying about the guy retaliating, and we know very well u won't dare slap another woman if you were not prepared for a fight. More than anything else, it's absolutely unladylike and there are many other ways to express your displeasure while keeping your dignity intact.

As part of my initial response to this topic, I posted this interview(below). So far, people have argued about how Awolowo got transferred to the prison in the East, and how/who released him from prison. No one has disputed that the Igbo went out of their way to ensure his comfort and that of his family during his trying period. Not only did MI Okpara and others persuade an Igbo man to vacate his house so that Awolowo could stay there at night, instead of in the prison, his wife was put on a minister's salary and given allowances by the Eastern Nigerian government. These are gestures only extended to a friend in need, and with that in mind, why do people balk at the idea that the Igbo worked to have Awolowo transferred out of prison in the north to the East?
    How about the corruption and incredible greed on display, on Awolowo's part, in demanding two million pounds bribe to offer assistance to a people just emerging from a war in which they lost all they owned? How do we reconcile how the Igbo treated Awolowo in his time of need, to his attitude towards the Igbo during and after the war?

Interview:

A member of Nigeria's first republic Federal cabinet, Chief Mbazuluike Amaechi have accused the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo of ingratitude to the Igbos immediately after the Nigerian civil war.

In an interview granted to a Nigerian national weekly, "The Nation On Sunday" and monitored by chidi opara reports, Chief Amaechi recounted how Igbo leaders immediately after the civil war sent a delegation to Chief Awolowo, who was the Minister of Finance and Vice-chairman of the Federal Executive Council, to help the Igbos recover their landed properties seized by the Federal government in Port Harcourt and other major townships.

The reason for sending the delegation, according to the 81-year-old first republic Minister of Aviation was that when Chief Awolowo was sent to prison in Calabar, which was part of Eastern Nigeria by the Federal administration of Alhaji Abubakar Tafawa Balewa in 1962, the Eastern Nigerian government led by Dr. M.I Okpara, an Igbo, in collaboration with other Igbo leaders persuaded an Igbo landed property owner to vacate his property near the Calabar prisons for the imprisoned politician. Chief Awolowo, according to Chief Amaechi stayed in the prison in daytime and in the property at night, The ex-zikist also revealed that the Eastern Nigerian government placed Chief Awolowo's wife on a Minister's salary, allowances and other benefits.

"So we thought he would remember these things, a delegation was sent to him because he was in charge of Finance and Vice-chairman of the Federal Executive Council", Chief Amaechi told the weekly. The former anti-colonial activist continued, "he said, you know I am a lawyer. I have a chamber at Apapa. If you want me to help you in the matter, go and pay a sum of two million pounds into my chamber at Apapa and bring the receipt to me". "And the Igbos who were given only twenty pounds, where would they collect and assemble two million pounds at that time in 1970?", the elder statesman queried.

Chief Mbazuluike Amaechi revealed further that in frustration, the delegation left. He described Chief Obafemi Awolowo's action as "the height of ingratitude to a people who gave him succour at his crisis period."

"Adam was to subdue God’s creation and he was to have dominion over God’s creatures. In his role of subduing and dominion he was to operate with the utmost respect for God. He was to deal justly in all roles. He was to act responsibly. In a word, Adam was to be righteous.
God created him in righteousness and Adam was to function righteously. In order to function righteously there needs to be a code of ethics. There needs to be a rule of Law for any kind of righteousness to exist. And so Adam was to rule God’s creation according to God’s righteousness. Which is to say that he was to rule according to God’s Law, which is an expression of God’s righteous character.
Adam wasn’t to make it up as he went along. He was created in God’s image with a true knowledge of God. So, it’s not hard to see that Adam was created with God’s Law written on his heart, as we say. Adam knew right from wrong in that he knew true from false. He could tell the difference between what is real and what is fake.
He didn’t know good and evil experientially. But he knew that good was doing God’s will, and evil was going against it. He knew it was right to believe God and accept everything He said as truth. He knew it as wrong to disobey God, for that would be to go against what is true. It would be to believe the lie instead of the truth. So, everything about Adam was righteous.
He willingly did everything according to the will of God. He had a righteous knowledge of God, a righteous knowledge of God’s creation. And he had a righteous knowledge of himself and the rest of mankind (at that time, his wife)."

@Relax101 :

http://chidioparareports..com/2011/01/news-report-chief-obafemi-awolowo-was.html

http://www.eslnetworld.com/webpages/politics/2010/apr/26/politics-26-04-2010-002.htm

@chinenyeN Onye ike, i bu madu!

-@PhysicsQED Indeed, you are right that Gowon ordered his release. I had the impression that he was released after Biafra was declared, but that is not the case as he was released Aug 03 66'. Ok, I'm not quite sure of the state of the nation at that time.

- Nobody said the Easterners transferred him to Calabar. At least I did not say so here.

I'm sure the Yoruba have their reasons for holding Awolowo in such high regards, but his attitude towards other Nigerians left very little to be admired about the man. I believe he saw everything through a tribal lens, unfortunately, and other Nigerians could see this clearly. He came off as someone who was too desperate for power, and would readily compromise whatever moral standings he had, to achieve power. He fell out of favor with the North, and was thrown into prison by Tafawa Balewa for allegedly planning a coup in 1962 (I think), but the Igbo were not pleased with what seemed like northern interference in southern politics, given the support Akintola enjoyed from the North. For all they knew, the east could be next. With Awolowo in prison, Akintola as the new premier decided to conduct elections, to strengthen his party's hold in the region, so Dr. M.I Okpara, the premier of the eastern region sent the renowned Journalist, Mazi UKonu from Enugu to counter the expected announcement of falsified results from Akintolas camp. Ukonu risked his life, sneaking out from the location where all the journalists were required to stay and announce the rigged resuts provided by Akintola's camp. He set up in Awolowo's house (in his library), from where he broadcast all the results of the election as provided to him by the Action Group(AG) field agents. Meanwhile Akintola's loyalists combed all of Ibadan looking for the source of the broadcast, but Ukonu, who was with Wole Soyinka in Awolowo's house, managed to escape back to the east when it was all said and done. The AG carried the day.
     Read the excerpt below, as narrated by a Nigerian First Republic minister, as to how the Igbo looked out for Awolowo's interest while he was imprisoned, as he was regarded as the true leader of the Yoruba, and a victim of northern conspiracy. Also read his response to the plight of the Igbo after the civil war. Lest we forget, Ojukwu released him from prison, where he was languishing and met with him, according him all the respect he deserved, but he reciprocated all this by quickly joining Gowon's cabinet, and doing all he could during the war, to prove his allegiance to the north by spiting the Igbo at any chance he had.

Interview:

A member of Nigeria's first republic Federal cabinet, Chief Mbazuluike Amaechi have accused the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo of ingratitude to the Igbos immediately after the Nigerian civil war.

In an interview granted to a Nigerian national weekly, "The Nation On Sunday" and monitored by chidi opara reports, Chief Amaechi recounted how Igbo leaders immediately after the civil war sent a delegation to Chief Awolowo, who was the Minister of Finance and Vice-chairman of the Federal Executive Council, to help the Igbos recover their landed properties seized by the Federal government in Port Harcourt and other major townships.

The reason for sending the delegation, according to the 81-year-old first republic Minister of Aviation was that when Chief Awolowo was sent to prison in Calabar, which was part of Eastern Nigeria by the Federal administration of Alhaji Abubakar Tafawa Balewa in 1962, the Eastern Nigerian government led by Dr. M.I Okpara, an Igbo, in collaboration with other Igbo leaders persuaded an Igbo landed property owner to vacate his property near the Calabar prisons for the imprisoned politician. Chief Awolowo, according to Chief Amaechi stayed in the prison in daytime and in the property at night, The ex-zikist also revealed that the Eastern Nigerian government placed Chief Awolowo's wife on a Minister's salary, allowances and other benefits.

"So we thought he would remember these things, a delegation was sent to him because he was in charge of Finance and Vice-chairman of the Federal Executive Council", Chief Amaechi told the weekly. The former anti-colonial activist continued, "he said, you know I am a lawyer. I have a chamber at Apapa. If you want me to help you in the matter, go and pay a sum of two million pounds into my chamber at Apapa and bring the receipt to me". "And the Igbos who were given only twenty pounds, where would they collect and assemble two million pounds at that time in 1970?", the elder statesman queried.

Chief Mbazuluike Amaechi revealed further that in frustration, the delegation left. He described Chief Obafemi Awolowo's action as "the height of ingratitude to a people who gave him succour at his crisis period."

Hia! Lekwa nu ndi ofe-mmanu na anya ukwu. Ndi ke anyi si la iberibe bu oria!!!!

I guess, it's a matter of where u came up, cos I've NEVER heard of Ofada rice till now. I'm familiar with Abakiliki rice though.