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Politics › Re: Tinubu’s Workaholic, He Goes To Bed At 2, 3am Every Day — Ajuri Ngelale by Ken4Christ: 6:32pm On Mar 07, 2024
Work without result. Shameless people.
Crime › Re: Micheal Chidozie: Police Arrest Activist For Beating Wife To Death In Rivers by Ken4Christ: 6:30pm On Mar 07, 2024
Most women remain in an abusive relationship in the name of what God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

Men that are women beaters are beasts. But they can't fight with their fellow men.
Christianity Etc › Re: Help Me With Good Solution To This And Get 75k Reward by Ken4Christ: 6:22pm On Mar 07, 2024
Realz99:
Please I need answers to this,
Out of ignorance, I once went to a native doctor, and after his consultation he made some incision marks on my body and rubbed some charm,. He said its anti witchcraft mark,.

Now I don't want the charm on my body again, because it was actually a mistake,
how can I possibly nullify it or remove it,

Note: don't talk about deliverance, I've already done that but I need a practical spiritual way it can be done,
Also I can't go back to the native doctor, someone that took me there is no more around and I don't know the exact place,

Drop your suggestions or chat me on whatsapp
0.7.0.8.6.2.3.8.9.9.0
You are just trying to get people's contact. Why can't the suggestions be dropped here for everyone to learn?
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Prays In Tongues To Chase Away Wild Dogs (Video) by Ken4Christ: 6:19pm On Mar 07, 2024
Emu4life:
Speaking in Tongues. Biggest scam ever
What you don't know is bigger than you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 9 - Christ's Presence by Ken4Christ: 6:17pm On Mar 07, 2024
Sand2022:
Jehovah's witnesses believe that Christ Presence started in 1914. They understand the question of the apostles at Matt 24:3 to relate to the earthly sign that will indicate that Jesus has become a king of God's kingdom.

According to them, the pestilence, food shortages etc that were written in Matt 24 are all signs that Jesus has become king.

Their Enjoy Life book says:

"Jesus’ disciples asked him: “What will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” (Matthew 24:3) In answer, Jesus foretold many things that would happen after he began ruling in heaven as King of God’s Kingdom. Some of these include war, food shortages, and earthquakes. (Read Matthew 24:7.) The Bible also foretold that people’s attitudes in “the last days” would make life “hard to deal with.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5) These conditions and attitudes have especially been evident since 1914."

JWs are really terrible in bible interpretation really. But is that what Jesus disciples were asking?

True, the question relates to Jesus coming as a king of God's kingdom, but the question is asking when Jesus will come as a glorious king and judge of the world. They want to know when God's kingdom will come. This question has always bothered them to the extent that after Jesus resurrected, they asked him if he was restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time. To show that these was their question at Matt 24:3, they joined that question with " and of the end of the age/world". Jesus coming as a judge will end the present age.

However, the JWs have also showed lack of knowledge in the meaning of the world for " end" at Matt 24:3.

In the study pane of JW Library, they said:

conclusion: Rendered from the Greek word syn·teʹlei·a, meaning “joint end; combination end; ending together.” (Mt 13:39, 40, 49; 28:20; Heb 9:26) This refers to a time period during which a combination of events would lead to the complete “end” mentioned at Mt 24:6, 14, where a different Greek word, teʹlos, is used.​—See study notes on Mt 24:6, 14 and Glossary, “Conclusion of the system of things."

They gave the Greek meaning of synteleia, but then turned the definition to something else altogether. HELP Word Study says:

Cognate: 4930 syntéleia (from 4862 /sýn, "close together with" and 5055 /teléō, "complete, consummate"wink – culmination (completion), i.e. when the parts come together into a whole ("consummation"wink – "an end involving many parts" (B. F. Westcott). See 4931 (synteléō).

So this Greek word synteleies combines syn and telos. B.F Wescott shows it means "an END involving many parts." So both telos and synteleies all mean an "end/completion", but synteleies is broader in scope.

The HELP word study continues:

4930 /syntéleia ("culminating end, finish"wink is not strictly "termination" but rather "consummation" (completion) that ushers in a new time-era/age (Mt 13:39,40,49,24:3, 28:20).

Here makes it clear that synteleia refers to a completion, a fulfillment of a previous age, that ushers in a new one.

I wanted to say this. At Matt 28:20, we see synteleias being clearly used as the "end". It says:

20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

Notice he says he is with them "all the days UNTIL...", what should appear there should be "END of the systems of things". Conclusion according to JW theology spans years. Jesus is rather saying he is with them from that day until when the end will come. Let's continue with Matt 24.

In the book of Matt 24, we see that Jesus explanation shows that this is what the apostles want to know - when the end will come, with Jesus as the glorious judge. For eg, see verse 6. He says there, "and the end is not yet". Then in verse 14, he says, " and then, the end will come". There you see telos in both verse 6 and 14. Now what they asked Jesus was the " synteleias (end) of the age", not "telos of the age". So why bring telos in verse 6 and 14? Simply because both word means "end". The chapter is using the word interchangeably.

The JW rather want to divide the meaning of the two words, and assign "end" to telos alone, forgetting that synteleias has both syn and telos combined. Wescott definition is pointed, "an end involving many parts".

If they were just asking about events on earth that will show that Jesus has become a king in heaven, Jesus wouldn't be saying in verse 6, "but the end is not YET". Rather, by saying that, Jesus shows that the end was what the question is about, as the apostles always do.

Jesus started speaking of the SIGN of that end with him as the glorious king in verse 30 of Matt 24. It says:

30 Then the SIGN of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

In their JW Library study pane, JWs throws an objection, it says:

"the sign of the Son of man: This sign is not the same as “the sign of [Jesus’] presence” mentioned at Mt 24:3. The sign mentioned here is connected with the “coming” of the Son of man as Judge to pronounce and execute judgment during the great tribulation.​—See study note on coming in this verse."

Well, that is really what it is, the apostles asked, " what will be the SIGN of YOUR (Jesus) presence...". Jesus is now specifically answering that question, by saying " THEN, the SIGN of the son of man will appear..."

Take note of the word, " then". Jesus is saying after the heavenly phenomenon, the sign of his coming/presence will appear in heaven.

What JWs are saying happened in 1914, are actually what will happen in the future when Jesus comes. It should be noted that Jesus coming will likely take some time because the Greek word parousia basically means presence. Of course for Jesus to be present, he has to first arrive. But this presence is not to span over 100 years as the JW theology says, No.

To further show that what JWs view as happening in 1914 is actually what will happen in the future, we ask, what happens when Jesus becomes king of God's kingdom? See Dan. 7:14

14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed."

So Christ receiving the kingdom was not just to stay in heaven doing nothing on earth. He is to receive servitude from people's, nations, and languages. Is that what is happening now? No. The same JWs will say Satan is ruling the world. See another scripture as well:

Rev 11
15 The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

When does the JW believe this prophecy fulfilled?

One of their publication says regarding that verse:

"In October 1914, Jehovah God set his beloved Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, on the throne in the heavenly Kingdom. At last, the Revelation vision of the Christian apostle John started to become a reality, and the announcement could be made: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord [Jehovah] and of his Christ, and he [Jehovah] will rule as king forever and ever.” (Revelation 1:10; 4:1; 11:15)"

So if the kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of Christ Jesus, how then is Satan still ruling the world?

This scriptural implication was why Russell announced in 1914, 'Gentiles times has passed, their kings have had their days". Yes, if Jesus starts ruling as king of that kingdom, no other gentile/worldly kings would still be ruling. So my advise to JW leadership is this, push all the scriptures you said fulfilled in 1914 to a future time when Jesus will come, then all your eschatological delima will go.

There is another problem I observed while researching this subject, the JW has a terrible understanding of verse 37. It says:

37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be."

The JWs stumble over that phrase " days of Noah" in relation to the presence of the son of man. Jesus was not saying that just as days of a person might refer to his lifetime, a period spanning many years, that Jesus presence will still span many years. Are this JW serious? Like seriously?

The point of Jesus statement is in verse 36. He stated that concerning that day, nobody knows. So he went further to build on that point. That as people took no note of when the flood came, that is how Christ will come suddenly. No one will know that day nor that hour. It will come when people are busy with normal activities of life, just as a thief comes unannounced.

I also see them connect Christ's presence to Jesus coming as a conquering king at Rev 6:2. They said it all happened in 1914. Oh my! Jesus coming as a conqueror king is linked to his coming at the end of the age. Notice Rev 17:14

14 These will battle with the Lamb, but because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those with him who are called and chosen and faithful will do so.” this event is the same with that at Rev 19:11-21.

This will all happen when he comes in the future, not 1914. The major problem of JW is 1914. It is said that one theological error leads to another
They have too many lies too numerous to number. They oppose every single truth in the Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 9 - Christ's Presence by Ken4Christ: 6:16pm On Mar 07, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
That's what you don't know about JWs once you're no longer with the fold you've missed a lot just as Saul left true God for witches.
So guy if you have any questions just ask the practicing JW like me who left my former religion to join them not someone who doesn't know the value of pure worship! smiley
They should ask 'olodo' like you. You make me laugh. JW is anti Christ organization.
Christianity Etc › Re: Winners Chapel Introduces Food Banks Across Nigeria by Ken4Christ: 6:09pm On Mar 07, 2024
For only members? Maybe it's a soul winning strategy. But it should be extended to everyone in need. He should sell some of his private jets and be the first giver. Just as the scripture says;

Luke 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 6:00pm On Mar 07, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Even before The Lord Said it did you not already know? Eg Did you not already feel the guilt when you bend down to look in between a woman's legs? Or when you go near a bathroom where you know a woman is taking her bath? Or to go near the room when a wonan is dressing up?

Or who does not know that he is guilty of killing when we wish a person dead eg when we say with our whole souls "i wish say i fit kill you"?

Please, leave me out of your unending stupid moving of post and thank God you.have now.seen by yourself that the Apostles and Elders Commanded the obedience to The Law, so you have no excuse for not obeying God, if you truly wanted to obey Him.
Are you aware that fornication was never mentioned as a sin under the Law of Moses? If you sleep with a virgin, you are compelled to marry that virgin.

The Apostles and Elders never commanded that the Law of Moses should be obeyed. And you read it. You are just too proud admit that I am right.
Crime › Re: Woman Leaves 3 Children At Enugu Police Station, Commits Suicide Over Hardship by Ken4Christ: 2:08pm On Mar 07, 2024
If when she was alive and she went to seek help from the first lady, would she have gotten the needed help?

I don't know why help only comes when someone has died.

There are many more people in the same situation. Help should reach them too before they do the unthinkable.
Politics › Re: Hardship: No Nigerian Workers Can Survive On Less Than N100,000 Wage – Reps by Ken4Christ: 11:31am On Mar 07, 2024
Domaining101:
This is a very big lie please, where do you guys get such info? I earning 25k a month as a single bachelor in Lagos and that is enough to carter for all my needs including light bill, fuel, food, clothing e.t.c, let alone 100k.. I think alot of Nigerians are just over exaggerating the situation of thing, just trying to making things look as if it's extremely terrible
I guess this is an irony.
Business › Re: Prices Of Dangote, BUA, Lafarge, Other Cement After Meeting With FG by Ken4Christ: 11:27am On Mar 07, 2024
Very soon, it will reflect in the prices of accommodation and lands. The landlord will use the cement price increase as an excuse.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 10:12am On Mar 07, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Oooh. Still moving from stadium to stadium. Is it not The Law that they that "they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood, which was what Aposltles and Eldets Ordered?

See, No Road!
Sure, the Law also cautious us against those vices but the Law of Moses is much more than that. It contains over 600 distinct instructions and you are obliged to keep all. The most sacred is circumcision which the Apostles said it was no longer necessary.

The fact that we are no longer under the Law of Moses doesn't mean that we live lives without regards to moral instructions. The moral instructions in the new testament is even stricter than that of the old.

Under the Old Testament, you have to sleep with a woman to be guilty of adultery. But under the new, you are guilty of adultery when you lust after a woman.

Under the Law of Moses, you have to kill to be guilty of murder. But under the new, you are guilty of murder if you hate your brother.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 6:56am On Mar 07, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Clearly, yours is not only an issue of ignorance but also of lack of comprehension as well. Again, the passage you quoted does not say that the Law was abolished. What you are posting is not scripture since all you are doing is attempting to skew, by pulling these statements out of context, the original message of those authors for your convenience - twist it so it follows your lies. But you continue to fail woefully. Paul never in fact meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses was abolished. He never actually said that. Rather, what Paul continued to point out, and this to those who are born-again — the primary audience of most all of His letters, whose attachment to the Old Law has been served by their being born into a New Law instead— is that their attachment to the Old Law was ended and now they are born into a new Law. undecided
What Paul wrote above applies only to those who are in Jesus Christ — those who are born-again. All the Israelites who are not born-again continue to exist to this day under the weight of the Old Law of Moses which is an eternal law that was never abolished by the coming of Jesus Christ. undecided

You can't understand this because you are one of those Paul said that the Truth of God amounts to nothing but foolishness. You have no clue regarding that, and that is why you go around lying that the Old Law has been abolished when in fact that Law is an Eternal Covenant. Your lack of understanding of what an Eternal Covenant means serves to indict your every claim to belong to the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ. undecided
Junior brother of Satan, Mr Liar. Continue. You will regret when you land in the pit of hell. May God deliver weak souls in Nairaland from your lies in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Paint Of Rice Is #7500 by Ken4Christ: 6:52am On Mar 07, 2024
Truvelisback:
Good day, evening. A paint of rice 🍚 is #7500 in my area. 🤦
The devaluation of naira is making our foodstuffs relatively cheaper than in other parts of the world when you convert it to dollar. So, because of it, they are being exported out of the country thus increasing the local price.

1 wrap of fufu that cost N100 in Nigeria is about N2,000 in Europe. So, why the masses are in pains, a few business men and women are making huge profit on a daily basis.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Is Not Grave by Ken4Christ: 6:45am On Mar 07, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Unbelievers will be resurrected as unrighteous ones that's why the scriptures say:

"And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the RIGHTEOUS and the UNRIGHTEOUS" Act 24:15

The righteous are believers from Abel till today, they believe in the true God and walked with Him so it was counted as righteousness for them.
The unrighteous are people who don't know the true God, some of them lived as prisoners of conscience so God keep them in mind as those who may become believers if given the opportunity as they have proved that they are willing to do what is right. Romans 2:14-15
Among the unbelievers are many who chose to be WICKED they don't know God and they don't care to know so it's like they deliberately rendered their conscience dead or they forgot God that's why God said He will forget such ones during the time of resurrection:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God! Psalms 9:17
You are not tired of your lies. Always opposing the word of God. Your portion in hell will be worse. Son of perdition.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Is Not Grave by Ken4Christ: 6:44am On Mar 07, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Beneath where? huh

This is simple really! For those who remain bound by the Old Law of Moses, all of whom have been condemned by God to perish in the grave aka Hell, Hell is the grave where they go to perish after Death aka cease to exist - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Genesis 3 va 19 - 24 or either sleep — for those who met the requirement for eternal life — until the time of the resurrection. undecided

For those who are of God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, and are hence born-again, Hell is instead the place of Eternal Damnation where the goats in the Kingdom of God will end up, after Jesus Christ has first returned and judged those in His flock, for eternity - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. The place of Eternal Damnation does not exist beneath anything. No man has ever been there and no one will until after Jesus Christ has first returned and judged His flock. undecided
Hello, Mr Liar,

Hell is vividly pictured as a place that burns with fire kindled by God himself. There is no fire in the physical grave and as such could not be referring to the grave;

Deuteronomy 32:22
For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall BURN UNTO THE LOWEST HELL, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Physical graves certainly can't fit into this statement. For instance, no fire burns in the physical grave.

Second, it says it shall burn to the lowest hell. So some compartment in hell are deeper than others. There is no such thing as lowest grave.
In addition, it says it sets on fire the foundation of mountains.

This explains the phenomenon of volcanic eruption. The fire causing it comes from hell beneath.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Is Not Grave by Ken4Christ: 6:36am On Mar 07, 2024
Pekun210:
Though both maybe beneath but one distuiguish them is everyone has appointment with death will so will be buried in the grave.both the good,holy,innocent,wicked,bad will go into the grave but everyone cannot go to hell.hell is for the sinners and the saint will be rejoicing in heaven singing hosannah
It's wrong to start a thread on sensitive issue as this without a single scripture to buttress your point.

It's true, hell is not grave. But please, do a little more study so you can educate people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Criteria To Make Heaven? by Ken4Christ: 6:30am On Mar 07, 2024
Presh555:
I have been longing to ask, with the rate of sin even on the pulpit on a daily basis.

What are the criteria to make heaven?

Please I need answers. Thanks in anticipation.
1. You must be born again. In other words, you must accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Salvation is a free gift given to us on the platform of grace - Ephesians 2:8-9.

2. You must identify with a local assembly or church where you will have the opportunity to serve God and contribute to the advancement of the kingdom of God. The scripture says that we should not forsake the assembly of ourselves together - Hebrews 10:25. Those who habitually abstain from church services are committing sin - Hebrews 10:26. And such act of sin will make you a misfit for the kingdom of heaven.

3. You must live a holy life. The that you are born again doesn't mean you will not sin or fall into error. But the difference between one that is genuinely born again and an unbeliever is that he will not sin habitually. And if he sins, his conscience will judge him.

As a child of God, provision is made for you to receive forgiveness if you sin. So, he quick to repent if you sin and God will forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness - 1 John 1:9.

As for servants of God who are caught in one act of sin or another, it is not a surprise because Jesus already told us that there will be people like that. And he will tell them, I never knew you, you workers of iniquity.

4. You must be a soul winner. This is the reason God saved you. Anyone who is saved and is ashamed of preaching Christ to others will not make heaven - Luke 9:26.

5. Walk in love. Love is the first basic sign of a true Christian conversion. You must walk in love towards all especially the brethren. This is revealed by the way you show kindness, help the poor and forgive one another. Those who refuse to help their brethren in need will not make heaven. The parable of the sheep and goat unveiled this truth.

There are many more. But let me stop here for time sake. I have a whole book on this.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Paul Contradict Jesus Christ? by Ken4Christ: 6:11am On Mar 07, 2024
onoerime:
By Femi Aribisala

As for me, I only believe the report of the Lord Jesus.

Every Christian must decide whether he is a follower of Jesus or a follower of Paul. Don’t make the mistake of many in assuming the two are the same. For starters, take a closer look at the following.

Discrepancies

Jesus says children of God are born of God: “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3). But Paul says children of God are adopted by God: “We ourselves, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons.” (Romans 8:23).

Jesus says God must be the only father of believers: “Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9). But Paul calls himself the father of some believers: “I appeal to you for my child, Onesimus, whose father I became in my imprisonment.” (Philemon 1:10).

Jesus says he is the only pastor and the only teacher: “I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one pastor.” (John 10:16). “Nor be called teachers, for One is your Teacher, even Christ.” (Matthew 23:cool. But Paul says there are many pastors and teachers: “Truly he gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. (Ephesians. 4:11-12). “I am ordained a preacher and an apostle (I speak the truth in Christ, I do not lie), a teacher of the nations, in faith and truth.” (1 Timothy 2:7).

Anomalies

Jesus says we should pray in private: “When you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, enter into your room. And shutting your door, pray to your Father in secret; and your Father who sees in secret shall reward you openly.” (Matthew 6:5-6). But Paul says we should pray everywhere: “I desire that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.” (1 Timothy 2:cool.

Jesus himself was circumcised: “When eight days were fulfilled to circumcise the child, his name was called JESUS, the name called by the angel before he was conceived in the womb.” (Luke 2:21). But Paul says if we are circumcised we would be estranged from Christ: “I, Paul, say to you that if you are circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do all the Law, you who are justified by Law are deprived of all effect from Christ; you fell from grace.” (Galatians 5:2-4).

Jesus says we should not receive payment for preaching the gospel: “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. You have received freely, freely give.” (Matthew 10:cool. But Paul says we should receive payment for preaching the gospel: “If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?” (1 Corinthians 9:11).

Contradictions

Jesus says we should love one another: “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” (John 13:34-35). But Paul wished some people would be castrated: “I wish that those causing you to doubt will cut themselves off.” (Galatians 5:12).

Jesus says we should love our enemy in order to be like God: “I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matthew 5:44-45). But Paul says we should love our enemy for malicious reasons: “If your enemy hunge
So, what do you call your father on earth?

Jesus is just trying to correct the too much respect we accord to people.

How did God adopt us as his children? When we believed in Jesus and received new life. So, it's the same thing. The adoption is in Christ.

You said that Paul said that we should love our enemies for malicious reasons.

But Jesus himself is coming back to take vengeance against those who oppose the truth.

He also gave a parable concerning a widow who asked a judge to avenge her adversary. And Jesus concluded that God will do the same for his children who cry day and night to him.

If you know the background of Paul, you won't be saying all these. He persecuted the church until he met Jesus. Jesus ordained him into the Ministry. All he wrote were not his personal opinion. They were revelations given to him by Christ himself.

How did he know how the rapture will take place if not by revelation?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Explain This Bible Verse? by Ken4Christ: 5:54am On Mar 07, 2024
realmindz:
2nd Samuel 24: Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census.....


1st Chronicles 21 : Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel...


Two accounts of the same story in the same bible, but one account said it was the Lord and another said it was Satan ....................................................................................

Please is the bible contradicting itself or was it a mistake from the writer? someone said Jehovah was satan...lol don't want to believe that.....

bible scholars, pls helphuh
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Historical books of the Bible are not necessarily part of the books written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. They are just documented account of what transpired in God's dealing with the nation of Israel.

The men of Old had limited knowledge of God and of even the devil. In fact, most of the times, they attribute everything that happens as the act of God.

So, both narrators are writing their perspective of what they thought influenced David to number Israel.

The books that were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and the prophetic books and you will never see any single error or contradictions in the prophecies given by all the Prophets.

There are of course under contents in the other books that were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. For instance, Jacob prophecies concerning all his children were said under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 5:42am On Mar 07, 2024
Kobojunkie:
What you are posting is not scripture since all you are doing is attempting to skew, by pulling these statements out of context, the original message of those authors for your convenience - twist it so it follows your lies. But you continue to fail woefully. Paul never in fact meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses was abolished. He never actually said that. Rather, what Paul continued to point out, and this to those who are born-again — the primary audience of most all of His letters, whose attachment to the Old Law has been served by their being born into a New Law instead— is that their attachment to the Old Law was ended and now they are born into a new Law. undecided

You can't understand this because you are one of those Paul said that the Truth of God amounts to nothing but foolishness. You have no clue regarding that, and that is why you go around lying that the Old Law has been abolished when in fact that Law is an Eternal Covenant. Your lack of understanding of what an Eternal Covenant means serves to indict your every claim to belong to the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ. undecided
You said Paul never meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses is abolished. Please interpret the passage of the scripture below for us;

Ephesians 2:14-15
14  For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

 15  Having ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

I can give you many more evidences. You are so ignorant and you love to argue. This is my last post on this. If you like deny the clear evidence of the scripture above. Your lies and dishonesty will send you to the pit of hell if you don't repent.
Politics › Re: Lagos And Niger States Sign MOU On Food Production (Photos) by Ken4Christ: 10:03pm On Mar 06, 2024
This government never ceases to amaze me. So, there are no farmers or farmlands in Lagos State. Okay. When bandits block the supply, what will they do?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 9:59pm On Mar 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Again, your confusion regarding what is stated only reveals the lie that is your claim to know of Him. Stop fooling yourself thinking you fool others by it. lipsrsealed
Romans 7:6 But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Continue to argue with scriptures. Son of perdition.
Foreign Affairs › Re: World's Billionaires Are Building Bunkers And Assembling Fortresses by Ken4Christ: 9:56pm On Mar 06, 2024
The Bunkers will get save them from the wrath of God when it is revealed. They are rich fools.
Food › Re: Trending Video Of Noodles Sold In Nylon Bags by Ken4Christ: 9:53pm On Mar 06, 2024
donbenie:
Another delusional, religious Fanatic..
Heaven and Earth shall pass away but not a single jot of God's word will go unfulfilled.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 9:51pm On Mar 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
That statement by Paul is meant as an indictment against you and others like you who pretend to know God yet have no true knowledge or experience of Him like the Pharisees and Sadducees before you who equally thought that by throwing around the name of God, they were justified by Him. You pretend with your mouths to know of God but your hearts are filled with lies and the truth of God appears as nothing but foolishness to you. undecided
Hebrews 7:18-19
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by th
Food › Re: Trending Video Of Noodles Sold In Nylon Bags by Ken4Christ: 9:03pm On Mar 06, 2024
If it's like this now, I wonder how it will be like during the period of great tribulation. You had better accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and get ready for the rapture. The end is near.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 8:59pm On Mar 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
See this one! So, because you yourself claim to be of Jesus Christ's followers whom you know absolutely nothing of that means we should ignore every single lie/evidence to the contrary you have revealed here , abi? undecided
1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 6:52pm On Mar 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Quoting from the letters of Paul which you obviously have little or no true grasp of will not change any of the damning statements you have made to this point against the God of Israel and Jesus Christ, His Son.. undecided
Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the deadwink
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 4:31pm On Mar 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Your every comment screams, "The God of Israel is a liar,same as His Son, Jesus Christ." lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

You can't seem to maneuver your way into speaking the truth, can you? undecided
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Would Have Been In The Dark Without Paul's Letters by Ken4Christ(op): 2:57pm On Mar 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
See religion of fear and captivity. You bind you bind yourselves and those around you in fear of an entity you have little to no understanding of and then you insist you do it all for the sake of a God whose words you care little to nothing for. No be madness of madness or at least wickedness for those who do that intentionally? undecided
The Jews that were given the Law of Moses have been delivered from it. You want to carry the load they couldn't carry. You are inviting trouble for yourself.
Food › Re: Prices Of Food Items Soar More Than 100% Since Tinubu Became President by Ken4Christ: 1:04pm On Mar 06, 2024
Jennyclay:
Scary part is that, 5k can no longer cook a pot of soup. Just a kilo of Titus fish is sold for #5,100 here in my area.

May God help us undecided
Maybe you have to consider being a vegetarian. shocked undecided

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