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leofab:
if he died to save the world, then he failed woefully because nothing has changed in the world. Sin, crime natural disaster m, famine war etc are still ravaging the earth.

But the world has not ended na, how can you say he failed? It is a gradual process Jarry.

Horus:
Jesus Christ dying for man’s sin has its origin in the ancient concept of offering human sacrifices to a deity.

So how was this a human sacrifice? Were the Romans offering Jesus as a human sacrifice or they were simply giving him the death of rebels?

Ecclesiastice

doctor306:
since the fruit helped man not to be Zombies then why did God punish them

I don't think God punished them, l believe he only stated the consequences of having your eyes opened knowing good and evil.

Mememan:
Silly ideology
So, you needs a human sacrifice to appease him right? And the only one that could even make him happy is "his begotten son"?
Rubbish!

What do you guys even mean by human sacrifice? A leader or would be king who gives up himself for his community, is that a human sacrifice? Ayam not understanding.

leofab:
a god is an immortal being.

Have you seen any immortal being? I guess no. The only one of God from heaven he has revealed the immortal.

leofab:
the guy wasn't a god and can not be a god.. he is just a good messenger and advocate of love and peace.

What is a god?

[quote author=leofab post=55616026]the guy wasn't a god and can not be a god.. he is just a good messenger and advocate of love and peace.[/quote)
What is a god?

Horus:
So what was the point of "dying for your sins" if you have free will to sin again?

It says Jesus died for our sins, which means he went to the cross because of our collective iniquity, but God by raising him from the dead as explicitly confirmed his messaiahship and the will of the lord would prosper in his hands.

mohemos:
You're correct, but one thing we know is that he had no teacher, nobody was recorded that taught Jesus all he knew when on earth and he wasn't tempted as a baby he was tempted when he was ready to start executing his mission on earth. that is, his brain was developed enough to consume his Godly experiences and knowledge, My thoughts

Even so, those Godly experiences would be filtered through a human mind. Haven't you ever wondered why Jesus would still need Holy spirit before doing anything worth recording?

mohemos:
Thank you so much, but being human didn't erase the knowledge he had as God, i.e. all the knowledge and experiences he had when he was in heaven even when on earth was still with him.
In a nutshell, that Jesus was made to become a human didn't take away the knowledge and power that made him God.
If am getting anything wrong please do correct me.
Thanks!

So are you saying you believe even as a baby in a manger, jesus had all knowledge? If so, then why did he grow in wisdom and power as enumerated in the book of Luke?

Raised to heaven how na?

mohemos:
I was wondering what made satan to temp Jesus knowing well that he was God, i.e. Why would he conceive it to tempt someone far greater than himself, the person that had already judged him or was it unknown to him that Jesus was also God?

The book of Hebrews already explained that he was made to be like us completely, feeling our pain and sharing in our humanity, this could only mean he was capable of being swayed to sin but overcame. So even if the Devil knew he was God, the devil could also see he was now susceptible to the flaws and weakness humanity offers Shikena.

bamidelee:
is Jesus a Jew or Christian
I hope you know there's a difference between Jew's and xtians
Jew's are not xtians they don't celebrate Christmas

Lol, being a Christian, is it about celebrating Christmas? this is a new one.

AnonyNymous:
Christians are yet to explain to me why God cannot just forgive without sacrifices (animal, or human)

Methinks, it is not that God cannot forgive without sacrifice, but that the effect of the sin is abolished by sacrifice. Even when God hath forgiven his people they could still be under slavery and bondage due to the effect of so much sin from the community as a whole except a ransom be paid to buy them again.

realestniggah:
you all should keep deceiving youself

Hmm, well l believe you are aware Christianity didn't even originate in Europe, and had spread far to African countries such as Ethiopia even before Constantine.

hadjipapiey:
This is simple common sense!



God died and rose, even if it's within hours... Who is in charge for before his resurrection on the 3rd day?

A Caretaker!?

Nobody said God died and rose, but that Jesus died and rose, Jesus was human having God in him fully to carry out God's mission and activities completely even as a man, so in a sense you can say he is God incarnated, but that doesn't take away his humanity.

prynsex:
1. He died and on the 3rd day He rose again
2. He died,and after 3days he rose again
my christain brothers please i need some explanation on this!
once again happy easter

He died and then rose on the third day, even if u say after three days, you would have to consider time frame in Jewish culture of old and how they interpreted days, for example a day may not be complete 24hours, so you start counting from Friday.

Goodnuel:
He wasn't divine enough to still see what Judas could do??

Running??

While reading the gospel stories in order, especially Luke and Mark before john, it seems to me that the primary mission of Jesus was to sow the seed of the kingdom of God on earth which would then sprout. He had to achieve this even if he must give his life for it as the prophecy in Isaiah 53 states.
But judas, due to his greed, facilitated the process of the death of Christ. The death of jesus wasn't a good thing initially and it's not as if Jesus just set out to die, but on the other hand it didn't matter anymore because he would be sacrificing himself for a course, and would become the first fruit of the resurrection. I don't know if Judas is to be blamed or not, but this is to answer your question about Jesus not being divine enough to forsee the betrayal of Judas.

haykinzz:
why this girl go waste her talent for this shitty league meant for veterans......

When it comes to female football, it is no shitty league cos the Asians are among the powerhouses in that domain

Aderola15:
Loooool... I understand you but then our emotions shouldn't always get the better side. I still stand my ground that having a date with a friend of the opposite sex has got no harm except ones partner has always wanted to cheat. Date or no date, cheating will take place if that's what you want.


And about them hanging out with her bf, what if the bf isn't in the place with them?

I don't have problem with my bf going on a date with a friend, trust him enough to make the best out of whatever situation. If you all are getting worked up because of a date, where is the trust which happens to be the foundation of every relationship?

The problem here is.. Why is she taking permission to go on the date with the lines..no strings attached, and oh he's just an old friend, bla bla bla. This is because even she can sense there's fire on the mountain. This is not about a so called insecurity of the guy, nor is it just about a lack of trust on his part, rather it is about the fact that she doesn't even trust herself on the so called platonic date, thus her boyfriends' permission would do.
The flesh indeed is weak.

Kimberlylouis:
honestly d guy wnts 2 sweep ur babe!!! neva agree 2 dat! 2 u babe its jst a frndly gesture! but as a grl b4 u kno it she will stat fallin...
do not agree 2 dat! tell her wat eva u can...

If he doesn't agree to that, the girl would subconsciously feel she is entrapped. The best thing is to tell her she is free to go, and that he's even looking forward to taking one of his female friends out to a birthday party as well.

My man, it would have been much better if you didn't send her that message. The message, from your point of view l guess, was to arouse her emotion and then stir up pity for you in her, then she becomes remorseful and go weeping, the way it is depicted in romantic Hollywood, Bollywood and even Korean movies.
But this is Naija my guy, and sending such a weak text message to a typical Naija babe would only irritate her the more, even if she struggles to truly love you from her heart, she would find it difficult to respect and admire you because you tolerated her so much in ways that do not even benefit you. Also ur text message is still loaded with so much respect for her despite her behavior.
My advise! Do your best to forget about her by meeting other ladies and engaging yourself in numerous worthwhile activities. And when you fall in love again, do not be overtly involved emotionally, even if you love your new gal, note that you can always do without her because there are lots of fishes in the ocean, and most importantly you have your goals and other things which also occupy your mind and emotions as strongly as your love for her.

Hmnn! this is so serious, l wish l could help. Let's just hope the guy or babe below me solves this problem.

Yap you got it, Ecclesiastes it is. Next is proverbs.

hopefulLandlord:
you've gone off a tangent

I asked for the difference between JudaismChristianity CREATION STORY and that of Islam

One of the major differences is that the Quran never states that man was made in the image and likeness of God. So Muslims would never understand why Christians can see God in Jesus.
In the Quran, the primary purpose for man was to bow and worship Allah, but the Bible states that God was looking for one to subdue the earth, to dress the garden and keep it for him.
These are the minor but yet subtle differences l can remember.

But who is God? You do not know God or what he represents. If l ask you to describe God, you would give me the version of God in your Quran.
Christianity states that no one has seen God(understood what God is) but the son of God(also son of man) Jesus the Nazarene has fully revealed him. Jesus is messaiah and would one day rule his people and the world as king. In the old testament the prophets reffered to YHWH as the real king to rule his people. But the revelation to the new testament authors is that Jesus is that king. If Jesus is the one to perform all of the works of the unknown YHWH, then knowing Jesus is knowing that same God in the simplest way our human senses could grasp him. YHWH God does not sit on a throne, he is only there figuratively, with Jesus as his right hand man revealing him and his will. It is Jesus the man who sits on the throne ( in essence he is the ruler) and every knee must bow to him. Jesus the man is the true YHWH king that Israel seeks.

But some of the richest people in the world are/were also religious, not everything is black and white. Many factors and policies contribute to the likelihood of wealth or poverty of a Nation, or a set of people, and religon has little or nothing to do with it. The likes of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE comes to mind. We know oil played a major role in all of those cases, it would be myopic then to say they are rich due to religion. If the reverse was the case, it would also be myopic to attribute their poverty to religion.

HCpaul:
Damn it.... We are caused. Simple!

That's not a big deal.

Let us learn to start facing reality.

If as blacks we all start accepting this your reality, then we become truly cursed. The way you see yourself easily becomes the way others see you.

Matican:
Jesus prayed, God answered. But exalting Jesus like they would God is quite grave going by these:

So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me” (John 7:16)

“I came not of my own accord, but he sent me” (John 8:42)

“I tell you the truth, no SERVANT is greater than his MASTER, nor is a MESSENGER greater than the one who sent him” (John 13:16)

“Jesus said to them, ‘My food is to do the will of Him who sent me, and to accomplish His work” (John 4:34)

“For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak” (John 12:49)

So, Jesus feeling and acknowledging his miracles as God's work and his declaration of servitude to God should warn us enough not to exalt him to equality to God.

Yes God sent him, but sent him to do what? The task he came to carry out makes him special. It is properly outlined in Luke 4v18 and in line with what the prophets said Yahweh would do. Remember at the name of Jesus every knee must bow and every tongue must confess his lordship. These are not words spoken of a mere messenger rather the early Christians saw Christ as the true Emperor( in that culture, Caesar was not just a man, he was god who brought peace to Rome). Christ Jesus then is said to be the true lord at which a proclamation of his name causes every knee to bow in worship. How do you explain all these from the worldview of the new testament authors?

jboy01:
where was it written in the bible that the voice is the voice of God. more over its written in the bible that no one can hear the voice of God.

Na wa o! So if nor be voice of God na voice of Devil?