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@Isale,  Your History/Math/Yoruba/Ijala singing teacher; deaamnn!! I will pay to go back to Secondary school and seat in a class with a teacher like that. That's a real life Polymath right there. Kinda rare these days, everyone wants to specialize and certify! 

While specialization has it's merits, IMO, too much of it robs us of the rich and diverse range of knowledge we can bring to bear on our lives and interactions.

A lot of the most celebrated minds in history were regarded as polymaths; Imhotep, Avicenna, Da vinci, Galileo, Newton, Pascal, Edward Said etc

like they say "Plough wide, dig deep"

Kilode.  I would love to see excerpts of some of the Yoruba literature we previously discussed, when you can, of course. 

Also, from everyone, I would like us to share recommendations for reading material: literature, history, current affairs, biographies, etc.

I will see what I can do, getting tired of typing long stuff on NL these days. . .

@US school kids, I heard they are a handful, too much freedom and liberty huh?

Sources revealed to Daily Independent that the suspected persons were arrested by the police (name withheld) included a tailor, who was given a contract of sewing All Nigerian Peoples Party (ANPP) clothes to be worn by the PDP members with which to disguise and stone the visiting PDP
Presidential flag-bearers thereby causing chaos in the state.

It was further revealed that the arrested persons had mentioned the names of some PDP leaders of the state, who were alleged to be the brain behind the deal, claiming that huge amount of money was said to be released to ensure the success of the plan.

SMH

^^ You better not diss Ogbomoso people. If DK catch you, even Katsumoto's sword no go save you o



[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7905088#msg7905088 date=1300062700]Naija all the way. 'Twas in secondary school in Lagos. I mistakenly wrote "high school" instead of Grammar or Secondary School.[/quote]Ok, I was hoping "Tisa" was an ara-oke teaching Oyinbo kids the subtle superior art of African poetry. . .

^^ finally the Quiet question; "How come she likes literature and strange poetry so much" has been partially answered.

Good teachers are such a gem. . . another obscure, uncelebrated teacher and lover of the arts saved the fertile mind of a precocious teenager. . . 

But, the underestimated Geography-come-literature teacher? Wow!  He brought it all to life.  So, you mean you have to employ an ABCDEF or AABB or any combination therefore at the end of each line, paying attention to syllables patterns, plus the verses also need uniformity?  Awesome.

Awesome? nerdy much? I was glad I survived my brief encounter with those iambic mumbo jumbos, it's all a blur now though .

Did you meet your Ogbomoso born Poetry teacher in Naija or US? 

Isale, give us Le Femme Noir too.

But it was mixed fortunes for some of the women as hoodlums (known as area boys) had a field day. The hoodlums went about the streets surrounding the square in groups, snatching bags and mobile phones from mostly women, who screamed in helplessness.

A gorgeously dressed woman who stood just by the Catholic Mission Street waiting for her driver got a shock.

The area boys snatched her blackberry phone and ran away.

Lol, Women emancipation area boys style. . .

I forsee more security for our Women as they continue to support PDP   

So CPC cannot use Mapo Hall on Monday because Patience Umbrera Jonathan needs it on Tuesday? WTF?!?!!!

This is just ridiculous, but not totally surprising. 

"You cannot carry out fundamental change without a certain amount of madness. It comes through non conformity, the courage to turn your back on the old formulas, the courage to invent the future" - Thomas Sankara.

Utomi, get mad, act it out and let's save our people. . .

That Vic O guy go kill pesin with laughter  

"I'm a man of God I'm not a modafuker, yeeeh men"

dayokanu:
Abeg make ppl help me set up instrument for this thread na

Your new Speakers are too heavy I'll need help. I've placed the small ones beside the mixer, the Omele players are not picking up their phones. I will send Arsemau to go call them. Let's play!

Is this where DK will throw the Owambe party? Where can we rent Aso ebi?

Another Arssenalization at Old Trafford ?  

jason123:
Yorubas were the main supporters of GEJ when the Northern cabal ganged up against him. The igbos on NL were talking about Zoning and all. Even Ojukwu gave his support to IBB. Yorubas stood behind GEJ through out.
The reason why yorubas stopped supporting him has nothing to do with ethnic affiliation rather it is the tribalism game, lack of compassion, lack of vision and butt licking.

When he came to the SW to campaign, he praised yorubas as the most educated and sophisticated et al but that does not mean yorubas want praises, what they want is development and ZERO tolerance to corruption. Take a look at the people that accompanied him in the SW, AKALA, OGD, Bode etc these are the people that have milked us dry so why should they now support him? Because he is a southerner? NO. Forget the praises, praises cannot feed a hungry child, it cannot help a robbed victim, it cannot help the commuter or anyone. Its all a contrivance. Why do you think they (yorubas) dislike OBJ??
My brother, with the little time I have spent with the yorubas, I can tell you that their politics is not based on how much you say but what you can do! It has nothing to do with ethnicity. Remember, the SW has the highest amount of people that are not from that region, that alone speaks volumes about how they think.
GEJ systematically moved from a humble and caring man to a desperate, clueless and power hungry man. Take a look at what happened in JOS. What about the AKALAs? should they not be prosecuted?? The guy has 100% tolerance for corruption , in fact, he is corruption himself! Take a look at the PDP primaries and the envelopes under the seats of delegates (5000 dollars   ) .

Although most of you consider ACN as a tribal party, some if not most yorubas will not vote for Ribadu, they prefer Buhari! Why? It is the genuine desire to stamp out corruption regardless of the ethnic affiliation. That is the truth!!!!

We have to stamp out corruption and tribalism before we can move forward as a nation. GEJ will be voted for based on tribalism. GEJ brought Ciroma's wife, Alams and all because he is corrupt! Forget the sentiments like "God chose him". How can God choose a man who is this corrupt? How can God choose a man that welcomed Bode George out of prison? How can God choose a man that brought Alams ( a man who dressed as a woman just to escape UK) to his team HOW  MY BROTHERS? HOW?

A good, corrupt free Nigeria will be good for us all. Forget the North and South dichotomy. This is the time for change not FEE DEE FEEE!!

Good job Jason!

+1

This tallies squarely with Buhari's not knowing any of the details of CPC's merger plans with ACN, only to fly into a rage when presented with the final document to sign

^^I just can't stop laughing at that imagery. . .

U de vex? (beaf?) is too funny, I don't like his politics but he sure has a way with words

henry101:
There are several artist in the Uk that are doing well.
Ever heard of Tinie tempah and Lemar?

Lemar is a very good soul singer, great unique voice too. I'm proud of the brother.

henry101:
What do you find funny?
He brought a useless topic, all you could do is to say He's funny.
You dont ever wish him well.
You all need to save him cos He needs to be in a rehab. center.

Ok, we are working at it, give us a little more time.

Even you will become his "fan" when we are done "reforming" him

@Fstranger, I don laugh tire. 

Abeg take Alj Uche's advice .

obuekwe:
I dont blame you for your caveman utterances,but i blame the factors that surrenders you when u are growing up, the timidity of your mind and the stagnancy of your overself,

WTF??!!

This bros don over-vex forget grammar

nothing do you jare

fstranger3:
I think OGD was right. No matter who was in the wrong, It is OGD who was bound from the start to seek OBJ's forgiveness. Whether the age is counted in years of political leadersip or years on earth, it is true that age alone does not make a leader. Though, we can certainly deduce that while age doesn’t guarantee wisdom, without age (years on earth) wisdom can’t be fully attained. This is why in Yoruba culture,money or years of political leadership can never outweigh years on earth, so it would be absurd to see someone as old as OBJ to dobale to/beg someone of OGD's caliber and timbre, regardless of who wronged whom.

Also of note though, is that years on earth and eldership does not guarantee character (or wisdom for that matter). The Odu Ogbe Iwori says:

Ishekushe l’ewe le she
Iwa ihukuhu ni ti agbalagba

Bad conduct is what is attributed to youth
Bad character is what is attributed to elders

And no one apologizes for bad character. You only apologize for bad conduct.

So yes, OGD's interpretation was spot on. On this, I think you are on your own.

While you are right about the importance of age and the possible wisdom it confers, It is wrong to ascribe all wisdom to age or excuse bad behavior because of age. I'm glad you pointed that out at the end.

I couldn't care less about the issue they are fighting over, but I do care about the misuse of culture and the constant attempt at using Yoruba culture as a cover-up for misrule and misbehavior.

I'm standing in unison with the wise ancestors who wrote those proverbs by simply affirming that; old age does not give you the right to act with impunity and continue to expect respect.

It is Asilo Asa ati Ede (misuse of culture and language ) for OGD to tell us this;

I am a true Yoruba son. In Yoruba land, it does not matter who is right or who is wrong, it is the young person that will beg the older person

It matters who is right or wrong, age or political status does not give you the monopoly on right and wrong. You are not obligated to respect or beg an older person just because they are older.

I appreciate the message in the Odu you quoted, but it still does not support OGD's statement, We can agree to disagree on that


Àgbàlagbà kì í ṣe lágbalàgba. ~An elder should not behave in an unbecoming manner~  

BTW, an elder does not have to dobale (prostrate) to show he is sorry, as our elders will say;

Pele l'ako, o l'abo ~there are several ways to say you are sorry~ ona kan ko w'oja ~there are several routes to the market~

~Reposting~

Daniel, who addressed journalists after a closed door meeting which lasted about two and a half hours, said that during the meeting he begged former President Obasanjo for forgiveness. He said: ‘[b]’We must give thanks to God. What has happened here today is a manifestation of the work of God.  [/b] I want to seize this opportunity to thank all the elders and also thank Baba for the opportunity of this meeting.

The "God" of the Nigerian politician is a very strange character indeed. . . SMH

Asked whether he begged Obasanjo during the closed door meeting, Daniel said: ‘’Let me say this to you, I am a true Yoruba son. In Yoruba land, it does not matter who is right or who is wrong, it is the young person that will beg the older person. So, I have begged Baba (Obasanjo) and I will continue to beg him”.

Wrong! That is a one-sided self-serving interpretation of culture


Agba ti ko fo moni nikun ki i fo moni lori ~If an elder cannot feed you, he may not command you either~

Agba ti ko yani legbaa Ikoko, bo ba dase sile a ki i lo ~An elder who does not secretly lend one pennies, if he embarks on building, one does not show up to help~

Agba to bu ewe l'ewe Mbu   ~Elders earn respect only if they show respect ~

Agba to mo itiju ki i f'ole sere  ~An elder who is wary of disgrace will not play at stealing~  (that's for Elder Bode George )

Omode gbon agba gbon la fi da Ile Ife.  ~It takes the wisdom of both The Elder and the Youth to build a city~


There is no blanket permission for an elder to misbehave and still expect honor, deference, respect and reverence in Yoruba culture. Enough of the lies from these usurpers!

MeGaStReEt:
Daniel, who addressed journalists after a closed door meeting which lasted about two and a half hours, said that during the meeting he begged former President Obasanjo for forgiveness. He said: ‘[b]’We must give thanks to God. What has happened here today is a manifestation of the work of God.[/b] I want to seize this opportunity to thank all the elders and also thank Baba for the opportunity of this meeting.

The "God" of the Nigerian politician is a very strange character indeed. . . SMH

Asked whether he begged Obasanjo during the closed door meeting, Daniel said: ‘’Let me say this to you, I am a true Yoruba son. In Yoruba land, it does not matter who is right or who is wrong, it is the young person that will beg the older person. So, I have begged Baba (Obasanjo) and I will continue to beg him”.

Wrong! That is a one-sided self-serving interpretation of culture


Agba ti ko fo moni nikun ki i fo moni lori ~If an elder cannot feed you, he may not command you either~

Agba ti ko yani legbaa Ikoko, bo ba dase sile a ki i lo ~An elder who does not secretly lend one pennies, if he embarks on building, one does not show up to help~

Agba to bu ewe l'ewe Mbu ~Elders earn respect only if they show respect ~

Agba to mo itiju ki i f'ole sere ~An elder who is wary of disgrace will not play at stealing~  (that's for Elder Bode George )

Omode gbon agba gbon la fi da Ile Ife. ~It takes the wisdom of both The Elder and the Youth to build a city~


There is no blanket permission for an elder to misbehave and still expect honor, deference, respect and reverence in Yoruba culture. Enough of the lies from these usurpers!

PHEE DEE PHEE!  CHICKEN!!!

Kai, Wahala wa o 


Oga Dk dey take style release Ogede and Ayajo.   

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=621278.msg7889723#msg7889723 date=1299834966]smh @ baba's taste

You can do better than that bro  [/quote]Right. OBJ ain't no Hugh Hefner though. At 74, you take what you can get  

A political-hoe is the best kinda hoe -pimpdaddy

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7891342#msg7891342 date=1299851011]Woke up to breaking news coverage of 8.9 earthquake plus tsunami in Japan.  Media appear to still be in the process of confirming level of destruction.  60 dead? . . . tsunami heading to Hawaii. . . watch on west coast (USA).

Any news of our Japanese prince, Katsumoto? Uhm. Typical NLer. Probably not even Japanese at all. [/quote]I heard it's now like 300 dead, I'm sure Katsumoto is safe, black people can smell water 3 days away


[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7891285#msg7891285 date=1299850280]Hahaha. Why do you doubt?  I am not the only one that loves you Kilode?!.  I am just not afraid to say it.  [/quote]You sure no dey fear! Katsumoto is still alive o!

Well maybe "they" are not afraid, maybe "they" are just taking Shakespeares advice;

“Speak low, if you speak love.”

Dangote is richer than Zuckerbeg!

Eff Facebook!

I can't Wait for Aliko to start sending food aid to starving Americans

fstranger3:
^^^^

How I wish Becomrichn would refer to me as his aburo as well
I am really jealous of you.

Don't worry we are all his aburos. . .

Becomrichn:
Kilode, aburo mi, it look like you dont know what coolwhip means. so you people can see, it is not batu english, it is time and space that is different.
I am now an oyibo person.

Egbon wa! I've been educated, now I know. E ku Ise Opolo

Please don't become Oyinbo OOO!  

Your people still need you O. Don't listen to all these small small Abinu eni's on NL.

We are behind you like Ikarahun lehin Igbin (Snail Shell)

^^ english is like using coolwhip. people use them different  -Becomrich

Words of wisdom from Ma Musiwa . . .
Becomrich;President,electrical engineer,Mapologist and marriage counselor extraordinaire


[b]when i was young my mother use to sing a song.
omo ni gige , mo wo.
it means the child, is the mirror of life.

Children are more important then career. I do not want to say you have a silly woman for a wife.

If she say she want to go, let her go. if you people live abroad .
do like what 100% most nigeria men do abroad if she want child support , relocate to nigeria.
let her go thru the pain of taken care of a child alone.
let her go to yar adua and complain. no child support in nigeria.

Dont worry the social worker and police who is trying to earn her 40 hrs to take care of thier own children would not pick up her phone after you leave. she would discovery , she have been silly.
the government would ask her to go and get a JOB to take care of the child. welfare is not for a life time.

We have seen them over here. their lifes becomes useless they now become love-peddlers in the night. black in, white go out, pink wait at the door. do google, you would find nigeria women caught on tape. And they become what they call ALL NATION over here. Yoruba call them orise rise men. it mean mens from different national. The children now know uncle itano, uncle britain, daddy Jamecia, Daddy Akata, daddy china,

And they now end up having children . what we call women of united nation over here.

the childre fathers

child 1 father Jamo
Child 2 father Paki
Child 3 father Italo
Child 4 father chiko
child 5 father UK
child 6 Unknow nation[ did not know who the father is]

Baby mother plenty for abroad

the yorubas says if one door do not close another one would not open.

Dont waste your own tomorrow because of an unserious woman. There are good women out there who would love you for you.

And if you are in nigeria . Let her go if she want, there is nothing you can do. Pray for her, if she refuse move on. Women plenty who need husband. there are 70 million female in nigeria and 150 million in the USA. Look see how President Yar adua gave his children to men who had 3 iyawo already. what does that tell you. In nigeria they say be Jankara. Even ni AME, plenty plenty.

Bobo, you are not ulgy,

Children are more important than career, to hell with career. Employer can sack you, your children can never sack.

If she want to stay , look for a Godly pastor. not all those 410 pastor . who want money and let them talk to her.


My brother if you have all the money in the world and all title , degree and cars, if you have no children in lifes. Your life is worth nothing, career would not bury you, it is your children that would.

Even if you die a poor man, you are better than a rich man with no children. God would not make you oloshi. Oloshi is a person who does not have children. A poorman with children is worth more than a man with billion with no children. A child is worth more than ten billion dollar.


There are some women in this world who are praying to have child, your wife na says she does not want one because of career. Aku ku career ni hell. Dam the career. Career my foot, [/b]

Egbon Musiwa! E ku Profound laakaye!

I'm in awe. Iba!

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7888494#msg7888494 date=1299808656]Classic! A snarky Kilode too. Have I told you lately that I love you? Seriously, have I? [/quote]I'm freezing this quote as evidence, never to be corrupted, compromised or reversed

debosky:
The Ogbunigwe with all its unwarranted fame was nothing more than an IED that threw up sharpnel in an attempt to affect low flying fighter jets or kill ground troops - are the Taliban now claiming to be creative geniuses for making IEDs?

Does that mean we cannot lay claim to someone else's invention just because we re-branded it in our local language?

That's harsh

^^LOL

Keep talkin/cookin like that and Aare Musiwa will never let you leave the Kitchen. . .