₦airaland Forum

^^Hahaha, I smell an age declaration bait.

I know I'm older than Nairaland, that I can confess

^ no mind me jare, I meant Oscars, all na award

The party that we've historically supported, ACN, has itself undergone so many incarnations.  Hope it survives its current benefactor.

I did sympathise with ACN ealier, in some cases I still do . . .

Tinubu cannot last with his current dismal PR image, There are too many people in Nigeria and the SW for one man to keep acting stupidly and continue to remain relevant.

But you know what they say about power. . .

“So dem go show dis tin wey dem dey do so for TV ?”

I think this is the quote of the year. . . SMH

[quote author=potof_soup link=topic=613641.msg7816426#msg7816426 date=1298898518]Why is Tinubu roaming around like a free man if Ibori is hounded up and down? Tinubu must have been a saint in the Lagos government house for 8 years? Is Ribadu, who vowed to prosecute him and called him a thief of international proportions, is he not now romancing with the same Tinubu?[/quote]As an obvious GEJ supporter, you are asking the wrong questions in all the wrong places.

The questions should be;

Why are we not prosecuting Tinubu?

Since we the PDP Government of Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has the power to investigate, the authority to prosecute and the opportunity to sentence this ignoble looter and a "thief of international proportions" to jail for the remainder of his political career.

Why are we not doing it?

Are we scared?

Are we incapable of enforcing the law?

Are we playing politics with law and order?

Are we afraid people will call us hypocrites?

Do we lack evidence?

or we just don't care about corruption?

Why are we not doing our jobs?

Why is the PDP Government so slow to prosecute and sentence Tinubu?

Justice delayed is Justice denied!

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=609543.msg7776438#msg7776438 date=1298332952]I know some Nigerians try hard not to view things from a color angle, that's fine, but we can't just wish peoples dangerous stereotypes away. Especially in societies where you historically and culturally suffer disdain because of your skin tone.

I don't know if these people are Nigerians or Nigeriens or whatever. But I'm afraid for dark-skinned people caught up in the Arab world through history, lineage or recent migration. Whichever way this crisis shifts, this is more bad news for them IMO.[/quote][quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=608408.msg7769619#msg7769619 date=1298251188]And flying in Black African mercenaries will just further whip up those silly racist sentiments in Libya IMO.[/quote]

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7812084#msg7812084 date=1298840131]Where is FStranger lately?
I am missing Kilode?!
What have the Japs done to Katz?
Dayokanu is busy with the womenfolk all over NL.

Anyway, some more fluff: Quizzes Quizzes Quizzes.
[[/quote]W'sup Isale,

I was busy plotting a revolution, internet warriors gotta eat.

The Grammies; I missed most of it, but was glad to see Eli Wallach(The Good The Bad and The Ugly, The Godfather, Wall street 2) honoured, were you referring to him? I believe he had a stroke too.

I hate to sound cynical and apathetic about politics, but I have neither love for nor hope in any of the current political parties and their candidates. But, because of the SW and for the sake of change, I want PDP defeated and humbled.

Sagamite:
This was the sermon of the pastor.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/news/3265-i-have-been-through-the-university-of-life-bode-george--i-will-work-for-pdp-to-win-lagos-state

I don't think the rebuke was strong enough.

I agree. Social Ostracization is a better rebuke IMO. The Greeks used it effectively and my ancestors did too. We can revive it and reform it. Elewon o ni itiju mo! . . .SMH

The plan is pure brilliance.

Batch 1 - Enter them into a mentality re-engineering programme using tools like seminars and role-plays. Conduct a test to assess change, if poor, add to those already in Batch 2.

Batch 2 - Perform a lobotomy on them. Evaluate if it was successful, if not, add to those already in Batch 3.

Batch 3 - Take them to the woods and put a bullet in their heads. The realistically achievable results from attempting the same processes as for batch (1) and (2) is not worth the effort to be put in. Don't waste precious time and resources on lost reeetards.

Pure efficient operational processes that will apply Six Sigma.

You don kolo 

I still think "mooorons" have a right to live. We've to keep trying until we get a fix, ain't giving up on man yet.

Consider Penal colonies instead. Except, I'm wondering what crime you can charge mooorons with, Living under the influence .  . . . . . .of stu.pid.ity?

Sagamite:
No.

I just wikied him now.

I think I am his reincarnation. I always have regarded myself a philosopher and most think I am being elitist and arrogant when I say the truth. 

His "Man Thinking" is what I have been advocating for ages to the human herd mentality I see from religion to culture to lifestyle-choices etc.

Sagamite is too refined to be a Hitler. 

I'm glad you found him useful, I had a professor in college who believe it is bad policy to place brilliant students and not-so-brilliant ones in the same class, I argued with him for a whole semester before I gave up. He's a Great guy, but full of crazy ideas on how to fix society. Emerson was his mentor.

I will re-read your theory up there and see of I can contribute a bit during the week. One thing I'm sure of though, we need fundamental changes and it will cause some people a lot of pain.

Sagamite:
I finally formulated my theory about human beings about 3 weeks ago.

I have come to realise that Human Beings are like Dogs. They really are not much different.

Us, the clerisy, need to train them to shape their mentality otherwise you are left at the peril of what they can do.

Ever read The American Scholar by Ralph Waldo Emerson?

I used to think he was too elitist and a tad immodest when I read him in college. Basically, I considered him a douchebag.

Now, I think his ideas about the role of the Thinking Man is sorely needed in my country.

Hopefully we won't produce a Hitler-Sagamite

Sagamite:
I also blame the reeetarded Nigerian journalists that will not jump on this story and slaughter all the people that put advert to celebrate a criminal getting out of jail.

Over here that politician on the poster with the criminal will have his face plastered on the news, like the reetard he is, the next day an during the election.

I agree. In a society that believes in accountability, that guy will suffer politically for putting his picture beside Bode George's.

Sagamite, Nigerian Journalists are victims of the rot our society has become. It is difficult to maintain or push a value your society does not believe in. I salute the few ones who speak out. Most of them are like most Nigerians, they are confused about right or wrong because they live in a society that is confused about right and wrong.

We do not have set and defined Nigerian values, So any fooool can argue and make up an excuse for Bode George. . . SMH

I wonder how the pastor of Christ Church Cathedral will explain Bode's George's massive celebration service to curious Sunday School kids. I'm sure he will find a way

I hate to preach about things like these without addressing the fundamentals. What we see here is a manifestation of years of valueless social "development".

IMO, Only a mother should welcome a thief back from jail, and that should be with a slap and a serious beatdown!

That your "moooron plan" is sounding more like a good idea everyday. . . 

Sagamite:
When I tell you all that there are mooorons and reetards that are strandling every corner of the Earth and that our mentality as a Nation is major league fcked up, you will say I am being elitist or insulting people.

See reetards:

https://www.saharareporters.com/sites/default/files/page_images/news/IMG_2805_0.JPG?1298727701

I know hunger can turn a pacifist into a cannibal, but I'm looking at those young men with their thick necks, rotund cheeks and round faces and it's obvious they are not desperate for food.

obviously their minds are malnourished

Ha! Look at that foooool with his picture on a poster proclaiming a convicted felon and a looter of public funds as his leader! a God approved leader? I'm sad for his children.

I'm sad for the young Bode George too, I think every child deserves to grow up and be part of a society that values integrity, honesty and trust. I'm sad for every Nigerian child. . .

Bode George even got a well attended Church celebration service??

Kai! Omoluabi ti da ohun igbagbe. . .

Hmm, I think Chief John Uche has been spending too much time on Nairaland politics section. But what do I know. .

I wish him well.

Respect to Omo N'Oba N'Edo, Uku Akpolopolor.

Oba Gha To 'Kpere!

Although Anenih did nada when he was in that ministry too. . .

dayokanu:
Is this what GEJ presidency brings to the table?

Label opponents Terrorists and embrace them once they surrender

Table? Oh, You mean Kitchen Table? Yes it was a family affair, more like a small kitchen fire. Presido GEJ has resolved it with his Father.

Wakima! I'm becomrichn

PhysicsMHD:
Having a Yoruba name is not evidence of being Yoruba in the ethnic sense. Culturally close, but not ethnically Yoruba.

Yoruba news on EBS Benin? You probably took some shared words as being Yoruba.

I know that bro. And I never said they are ethnically yorubas.

Also I'm not speaking of shared words but a news program in Yoruba language, hopefully someone who lived in Edo State and has followed EBS programs closely can help my memory. Like I said I'm not 100% certain but I think i saw them air a Yoruba news after the pidgin news at some point when I was living in Edo State.

Beaf:
So, Afemai and Igbarra people are now Yoruba? What is wrong with NL people?
There are no Yoruba people in Edo state, except you get your stories from motorparks and beer palours. This constant calling of Midwest people either Igbo or Yoruba has got to stop. I've always heard the rubbish tales from rewires and shoemakers, but NL has been an eye opener.

I don't think the Igarra or Afemai people can be claimed as Yorubas really.

But there are other communities where the differences are harder to pin point. Especially communities and villages close to Akoko in Ondo/Edo states also those close to Ifon, and Owo and including some Owan villages where you basically have people with Yoruba names like Ogunmola, Ogunyele, Kayode, Kehinde and co.

The language and cultural relationship between Edo folks and Yorubas are some of the closest I've seen in Nigeria.

Off Topic:I'm not sure about this; but i thought they were showing Yoruba and Pidgin news on EBS Benin at a point? I can swear I've seen it before, but not 100% sure now.

Algerian:
I totally agree with your conclusion in bold. I gave my own perception of things and it may of course be not that correct, what I can assure at least is that in most of the North African countries, strangers don't usually mix with locals so the stereotypes may be very rooted but when that mixing occurs (by mixing I mean making friends and living amoung the people, not in ghettos or hotels) things tend to go pretty smoothly. Whatever the situation is in that matter, internal discriminations (between tribes, regions or ethnic/religious groups) are more serious problems for North Africans than those against foreigners since those foreigners are quite few in number anyways.

Talking about stereotypes, I remember one day when I was younger (around 1995), I was playing football in the street with friends in Algeria when a black guy passed by. Being curious, we went to him to chat (back then it was so unusual to see a foreigner) and we learnded that he was actually, Nigerian! We thought "Great! He must be doing very well in football" (Nigeria did great in the 1994 world cup, a year or so before), so we gave him the ball to see how good is he. Well, it was a big disappointement, he was just awful.

Algerian, I think savanaha was referring to the Dark skinned people of Algeria, and not foreigners per se.

By Dark Skinned, I mean people with "negroid" skin color and hair. or berbers that look like them. Those are the kind of Black people I was referring to also when I asked my question initially.

I know there are people like that in Egypt, and also to a small extent in Iraq and several Middle-Eastern countries. Do you think they are all foreigners? if not;

Can you offer more insight into how those specific Algerians or North-Africans are perceived or treated culturally and socially?

Like you said; You don't live in Algeria anymore and you are "white" Algerian, so your views may be from that perspective. but I'm interested in any further insight you can provide.

GenBuhari:
Wole Soyinka is misguided or may have been misquoted.

Who is Wole Soyinka Sef - we need to be suspicious of africans honoured / acclaimed by Western nations as they may be doing the bidding for the West /IMF World bank.

Dont forget Wole served in IBB 's government so remember that fact.

Don't create an enemy where there is none. Stick to defending BB.

Wole Soyinka has displayed integrity and wisdom over and over again. Let us direct our passion towards the right cause and our angst toward the oppressors of our people.

Soyinka is not a GEJ supporter, neither is he a western apologist. They gave him the Nobel at their own risk. Kongi does not owe Oyinbo or the west any favour.

and like Oyb said, he's entitled to his opinion about those he sees as oppressors of his people.

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OK.

^^ More fluff

PhysicsQED-MHD-HD-~ welcome to the thread about everything, including fluff.

^Are you sure we know our rights?

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=611085.msg7789636#msg7789636 date=1298519703]yep.


the higher you go the more expensive your toys.[/quote]That's why Ghaddafi is pissed in Libya, I'll be pissed too if strange people are trying to take my expensive toys away

@video, But that's too much money and jewelry to have anywhere outside a Bank

It seems they have Euros and Dollars stashed behind every wall in that Tunisian palace. Incredible!

and to think a jobless street hawker had to set himself ablaze in protest in that fo.ol's country. Oloshi ni awon rulers yi sha!

Bashorun Musiwa, I rejoice with you. More of your people can now see the light. Hmm

^you are right about political sharks. There are also hundreds of "progressive" groups online and offline across Nigeria, but unfortunately we all seem interested in the presidency, and in fighting for one political party or another.

The real core issues are relegated and the more important offices in the legislature and in local govts are ignored. Everybody wan become their excellency.

Anyway I'm open to progressive ideas that will benefit my people. I'm not certain twitter/FB/campaign will succeed if we don't have a mechanism, system or ideology that can engage grass root home based Nigerians from the start. Our people need to be involved in the fight and understand what they are fighting for.

We need to make our people understand why True Federalism for example is better for them, rather then fighting over which ethnic group in the state should get which position on rotation basis.

It seems you are one of those NL's who lived some considerably number of years within Nigeria. So you have a fair idea of what i'm talking about. You need to see or listen to the stuff that was going on across our states during the last selection/election processes, with a lot of our state laws written in such a way that they mimic the moroonic federal character nonsense we have at the center. States o!

Despite years of ethnic politics, we still fail to see that "our sons" at the center only care about their pockets when they get there.

Our people get cheated every time because they are confusing democracy with tribal/ethnic affiliations, every four years they get caught up in the ethnic-numbers game and lose out when "their Son" gets to Abuja or the State capital and aligns himself with his new tribe: "the honorable big-man" tribe. He get's busy sharing money while neglecting to fight for jobs, industries, roads, water, electricity on their behalf. Of course he'll pay a few school fees and burial costs while acting like a Lord in his village.

We repeat this same sad circle every time. Because we do not understand Democracy, our people don't. My fight is to get Nigerians selfish and self-centered. If we don't, we can't change anything. The American System we've adopted is very individualistic and it works for you when you think about yourself first.

Unless we want to go back to the Village Square System we had before the Oyinbo man came(which is fine by me) we cannot play ethnic politics with this system and succeed. That is my understanding.

I'm willing to work with those who believe we can't continue like this, those who are willing to get our people excited enough to take their future in their own hands.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=610248.msg7782425#msg7782425 date=1298412900]I have a guess about what that means, but wouldn't mind confirmation [/quote]Okobo means "Esin inu Iwe"

Beaf:
I would personally wish to see any windfall going into diversifying our economy away from oil and fixing our fake federal system.

That is the dream, right there, visit your Senator and Governor ASAP, I'll visit mine too

^ WTH!!

Egbon Musiwa!!

The more the Middle East implodes, the more money Nigeria and Angola makes. . .

Now, if we can stop our politicians from wasting money and get strategic with investments, that will be something. . .

Just thinking about this crisis getting to Saudi Arabia is Scary TBH. . . Too much at stake, too much oil/energy issues to deal with.

BTW,  I can now see why people call Ghaddafi a Lunatic. . That guy needs help. Delusional manipulator. SMH

Power makes cocaine and heroin seem like baby powder. Addictive stuff!