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@Katsumoto I think this site has a Yoruba translator http://www.kasahorow.org/ak/ims/yoruba I've not used it. I'm not certain it will be too useful to a Yoruba speaker though.

@Tpiah, you write good Yoruba o! i8millar too!

@warrior, o ku aigbagbe, mo ri bo se pari owe yen.

Mubarak is history! In 17 days?!!! men ain't gods afterall!

I can remember how tiny I was the first time I heard the name Mubarak in a current affairs quiz class.

I dislike military rule Though, Hope they set far reaching freedom on course as soon as possible.

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^Warrior, See below, scroll to paragraph 2 under "Gowon's derogatory statements"

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-582533.0.html

fstranger3:
Naijababe, tell me you arent pissing yourself with Katz fluency!


Oga Kilode?, Anything from the Irunmoles regarding Katz fluency?

Mo ti ye ise owo ko ede Yoruba ti Oga Katsumoto yii wo daradara. Oro na so simi lenu o si tun bu iyo si.

Sugbon, nitori ipa ti ogbeni Katsumoto ti ko lati ja fun iyi ati ilosiwaju awon Omo kaaro oo jiire lori ero itakun Nairaland, mo gba ogbeni yi towo tese.

Ohun t'awo ri l'awo wi. Eyi o ku d'owo awon Irunmole. Iba!

hint. But the British were not treated as gods by the Yoruba. In my experience the Yoruba regarded themselves as superior to the British and one only had to read a book written by Awolowo, the Western leader, to know why. The Yoruba were often highly intelligent and they taunted the British with sending inferior people to Nigeria. The Igbo would be humble and avert his eyes in the presence of a European. The Yoruba child would look at an important European and shout, "Hello, white man," as if he were a freak.

As omo kaaro o jiire, I can relate to some of this, even Awon Oyinbo understood the condescension with which they were viewed Hahahaha. I'm not sure I believe the stuff he said about the Igbos averting their eyes because of some oyinbo person though.

I'm sure Edo people viewed Oyinbos in a condescending way too. Oyinbos had nothing on the Irunmoles and never will. But our Southern people had to pay for it. Another opportunity will come.

Beaf:
Property rights is one area where Nigeria is backward beyond belief. You need to read the land use act and weep for the country.
It is the duty of each and every one of us to fight for the upholding of individual property rights, it is difficult to fathom how the FG can claim to own all undeveloped land. The land use act is part of the reason for the nomadic menace from cattle rearers.

Exactly bro!  Land use act! One of those silly laws created by OBJ and his military "Owners of Nigeria"  friends.

One of those laws that will have to go in our quest to rescue ourselves from the hands of tyrants.

Our people need to educate themselves about these silly laws and practices. It is absolute bullc.rap, we are like serfs in our own land.

e.g When Texans find Oil on their land in the USA , they can be assured to a reasonable extent that they will benefit through direct royalties, in Nigeria, it does not matter if the oil was found in your bedroom. iirc

In Nigeria, land and resource belongs to the Federal Government or The State Government by default. They get royalties on your behalf and do whatever they please with it.  They don't need you and they don't need your property taxes, they own it all, why won't they be corrupt?

Our Niger Delta people had their land taken over by the Federal Government while they pay State Governors some silly derivation nonsense monthly. The Federal center, the state center and the Local govt determines what to do with the money they get.

It is insane how we treat ourselves, I don't even think our ancient ancestors with all their faults had silly laws like that. SMH

“I have not told this story before because I did not wish to wreck the chances of success of the new nation by revealing the truth behind the fine but phoney ceremonial retreat. It would not have been possible to write this book in the 1960′s anyway as my health was in ruins and my survival unlikely. By the mid-1960′s too, the consequences of the British betrayal were becoming evident and Nigeria was being torn apart by coups, corruption and civil war. If 1960 was too early, by 1966 it was far too late.”

I still think he should have written a book, I read his interview few years ago, and it left me wishing for more info. Anyway R.I.P our problem is ours to solve now.

^^ I hear you bro, I hope you and GEJ are right with this containment strategy. Maybe I'm overestimating the resilience and influence of the "owners of Nigeria" I don't think so though.

BTW, I do not support bloody violent revolution, except in extreme cases where we are left with no other choices.

I actually prefer a cultural revolution, but I agree with you, we won't achieve much until we curb the power and influence of the Ruling Cabal.

@Fstranger, I no work for google o, who dash me. I heard those people are so evil they can reduce my bandwith if I don't do a disclaimer.


[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=590933.msg7708337#msg7708337 date=1297377793]Off topic, sort of. I'm also following the egypt happenings, but does anyone have any comment about the girl who died after a butt implant operation? Is there a problem one should be aware of, with all these deaths and killings going on?[/quote]Very sad way to die. which one be butt surgery again sef? folks should just try to stick to what their mama gave them.

If anyone is in doubt about the addictive nature of power, they should check Mubarak's story out.

Power turns mere men into tin gods who believe they are too important to be discarded. It's amazing how some become so sure of their importance that they act like the sun will stop shinning when they die.

Israel and Egypt had been fighting and making peace since the days of Abraham. Who is Mubarak, Suleiman of even the Egyptian Army. Soldier go Soldier come. . .

I believe he's just buying time though. . .

Beaf:
Anybody you vote for will have to work with the exact same people GEJ is working with (maybe even a worse crowd), so out goes your principle. But, I must say I understand exactly where you are coming from, but the World (especially Nigeria) isn't black and white.

I'll say to look at those areas GEJ has silently changed despite the crew around him, and there have been some Earth moving changes. Who ever believed that one day the almajiri would be getting set for Western education? Who ever believed that a President would have the temerity to stare the likes of Shell in the eye and dare them to a game of blink? All oil contracts have been suspended until the PIB is passed. Nobody else sought to bring such defining changes to Nigeria's economic landscape; please take time to read up on the PIB and what it means for the country. GEJ will be remembered as one of Nigeria's greats, cos he is the first to put us firmly on the right path to self belief and development. Don't waste your vote, also spread the word.

Well, Since Nigeria is not ripe enough for a sweeping knife-them-all Revolution. I'll concede that any democratically elected leader will need to work with at least a few of these laggards.

But working with them or accommodating them while you push for change will be easier if they do not have the kind of influence they seem to have in PDP. People like Anenih, OBJ, Alams(I consider him a nonentity small fry though) and a host of other establishment career kingmakers have too much power in PDP.

I want GEJ to work on getting rid of those f.ools. They believe Nigeria belongs to them and their descendants and if you understand how addictive power is, you will realize that preaching to these people or tolerating them will not change that mindset.

I've read about the PIB, I'm glad Shell and co hates it( I like almost everything Big Oil hates)but I will wait for it to pass before I celebrate, actually I will wait ten years after it's implementation before I celebrate.

I'm not really worried about those initiatives. I'm sure GEJ can pass a few bills and ruffle a few feathers but you and I know that our country needs revolutionary, radical, structural changes. I'm not convinced GEJ will be allowed to make those changes. I'm not sure he's radical enough to resist those who benefit from the status quo.

I may be wrong, but I believe i've studied my country enough to make some informed guesses. This is a win-win situation for me, even if I'm on the wrong side of history, I'll still be happy If GEJ can radically change Nigeria. For the sake of my people, I hope I'm wrong about GEJ.

No wahala, I now dey chop clean mouth comot

Beaf:
@Kilode?!
I full ground remain! How your end? I didn't log on for a few days, cos I was bogged down with work.

As for true federalism, I hope so; but, we are best waiting for detailed manifesto's, which in turn will depend on the security situation in the country. True federalism is still anathema to some sections.

Ok then, You know I won't vote for him because of the people sorrounding him, it's a matter of principle, and frankly he does not need my vote if he's with the owners of Nigeria in PDP.

But if he can work with the right people, be strategic and get what You've been explaining about True Federalism done, I will forgive him. seriously

Make we dey watch sha. . .

^ I dey here, I dey try chop remain for awon boyz.

Make bros shine eye o, all these new Universities with federal power dey confuse awon boyz o!

Beaf:
Was GEJ governor in any of the years mentioned in the article? No.
You guys aught to be really ashamed.

@Beaf, how far? it's been a while.

Bros go still do this True Federalism thing? I'm worried o.

fstranger3:
You actually think a kid born today in Otueke can actually compete with a kid born in Boston?

Let that kid compete with a kid born in Accra first.

who are we kidding?

At least one kid born in Otueke is about to become president. (luck or no luck)

The least they can do is ensure that we don't kill the luck of other Otueke children with short sighted corruption.

But alas, at the rate these politicians are embezzling money, even lubumbashi kids will laugh and point at us.

afam4eva:
Who're u to approve anybody. If you like don't work hard to get yourself and family out of poverty.

and you are?

anyway, if you want approval, pour libation to Ifa and apply. . .

@Jason, Itshekiris are welcome in Yorubaland, if anyone challenges you, tell them I approved you.

But You must pour libation to Ifa, ok?

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=601921.msg7707061#msg7707061 date=1297365908]It is quite disheartening to see us go at each other throats. I have always been a fan of Yoruba culture. *guilty pleasure* But it is hard to truly embrace another group, when they view my people as enemies.[/quote]Keep trying. . . I'm sure it is hard. It takes a great deal of inner strenght to resist, but keep trying.

I want to laff, but shortchanging your own people is not funny.

We want to attain G10 status but these people keep wasting the funds that might help a kid born in Otueke(GEJ's town)Bayelsa compete with a kid born in Boston USA. . .

SMH

He should get the hell out so we can write our book;

Bandwith Power: How internet-warriors forced out a 30 year old dictatorship in 2 weeks.^(R)



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[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7706108#msg7706108 date=1297355089] Egypt’s Army Signals Transfer of Power
Hossan Badrawi, secretary general of the National Democratic Party (NDP), told Egyptian state news outlets and the BBC that Mr. Mubarak would "most probably" speak to the nation soon, and that he would likely step down from his post.

In testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, C.I.A. Director Leon E. Panetta said that there was a “strong likelihood” that Mr. Mubarak would step down by the end of the day.

Although the shape of a new Egyptian government remained unclear, television images on Al Jazeera showed the masses in Tahrir Square cheering the news of an impending shake-up, waving flags and chanting: "The Army and the people in one hand."

Vice President Omar Suleiman, named by Mr. Mubarak to undertake a dialogue with opposition groups, had warned Tuesday night that if the process he was supervising did not produce results, the military would step in to take administrative control in what he called a “coup.” He did not say what role he would play in a military government.

The announcement came as Egypt’s uprising entered its 17th day on Thursday, bolstered by strikes and protests among professional groups in Cairo and workers across the country. A senior official in Mr. Mubarak’s embattled government was quoted as saying the army would “intervene to control the country” if it continued to devolve into chaos.

As tension built ahead of Friday’s planned mass protests, thousands of chanting lawyers in black robes and physicians in white laboratory coats marched into Tahrir Square — the epicenter of the uprising — to join the clamor for Mr. Mubarak’s ouster.

Engineers and journalists also headed for the square on Thursday as the numbers there began to swell once again into the thousands, with demonstrators mingling among the tents and graffiti-sprayed army tanks that have taken on an air of semipermanence.

Full article and comments here: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/world/middleeast/11egypt.html?hp[/quote]Isale, Just in case you are still wondering what we Internet-warriors do, check the story of our warrior of the week: Wael Ghonim.

Wether Mubarak leaves or not, he will never forget us!

Wael Ghonim, my fellow Internet-Warrior; Much respect

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/world/middleeast/08google.html?_r=1



http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/subtitled-video-of-wael-ghonims-emotional-tv-interview/

Tyrants can find and detain us, but they can never kill our spirit (servers)   

Na wa o! see manifesto!

Bros Becomrich don Provoke!

dayokanu:
Lets talk about it.

But I don't do biking, My momma warned me against erepa. I see the guys do it a lot wear singlet, tie scarfs/bandanas and go biking even my Indian oga bought a Harley Davidson in December

HAHAHAH, Indianman lori Harley Davidson, pelu bandana HAHAHAHAHA

^^ Damn! that video is asking me tough questions; Which one you wanna be?

A P$imP-player or a Révolutionnaire

Focus soldier, Focus!!

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=599800.msg7694765#msg7694765 date=1297222937]Fstranger, Eku Bear, lemme tell you something today: THE HEADS OF NIGERIA, TODAY, ARE A BUNCH OF MOR*ONS!!! If the West of Nigeria was "gifted" in the act of scheming; and if they "really" want the prized oil fields of Nigeria, they could easily have it!

Looking from the outside in, lemme tell you what they could do to solve this "Biafran Problem" once and for all!

If they had any brains, they'd call for a referendum and seek dissolution of the country  and they'll STAUNCHLY "SUPPORT" the Biafrans right to their "Land of the Rising Sun"! As an icing on the cake: THEY'LL (Western Nigeria) INSIST ALL THE OTHER MINORITIES IN/AROUND THE IBOS, GO WITH BIAFRA!!! The Ibo wills think theyve eaten their cake and still have it. They'll have forgotten a VITAL lesson: WHEN YOU EAT, YOU NEED A CUP OF WATER NEXT TO YOU LEST YOU CHOKE TO DEATH!!! This is where the real "Brain" comes in!

With the "division" of Nigeria into several countries, problem #1(the MAIN problem---- the North) has been solved. Now to take care of these damn chest beaters!

The Ibos penchant for desiring other people's property is well known. Their penchant to cheat, steal, and act irrationally is also well known. They love to lord it over others (this will be their downfall).They are the greediest on the face of the earth. . . . all these are well known facts! The oil is "coming back", just keep reading. . . .

You let the Ibos be a overwhelming majority in their "land of the rising sun"; the minorities will eventually become disgruntled that they are being shut out of every day governmental affairs! Who wants to return to "Nigeria" after fleeing Nigeria? Thats how the minorities are bound to feel when the Ibos (undoubtedly) grab every inch of power in the new country they can lay their hands on! For the Ibo, "enough" is never enough; he wants it all even when theres nothing else more to grab. . . 13 fin*gered thieves! But, they'll forget that this aint 1960 no more. Them Niger Delta boys got some bad aszz guns. . . shiyyT, I seen em with my eyes on CNN! These boys are taking the Nigerian Army to war; and ARE WINNING!!! These kids forced the Nigerian Army to call a truce and grant amnesty; something Biafra couldnt do! Now, unleash them in close proximity to their target and watch hell rain from the skies! These rebels are taking on the whole of Nigeria, you think they cant handle a buncha smelly Ibos?

Anyway,when the minority becomes agitated; mayhem will be unleashed. Eventually, the Ibo (being the high handed motherfuxckka that he is by nature---he clearly hates to negotiate) will be seen as the "BULLY". Nobody likes a bully; ESPECIALLY NOT THE WEST (U.S.A, EUROPE, ETC). Even moreso, NOBODY LIKES THE IBO!!! Historically, the West would rather deal with either the Hausas or the Yorubas, anyway. BUT, remember, the Huasas (by virtue of the fact that the Nation has been split) would have been rendered obsolete and sent back into the 11th Century. The Niger Delta, seeking an ally, will turn to Western Nigeria. Western Nigeria doesnt have to be drawn into a "face to face" war with the human-flesh eating Ibos, nooooo. . . . they can render support ,covertly, or "on-behalf" of the West (Europe/U.S.A) for the  Niger Delta; but the Niger Delta will have to "pay" for this support from Western Nigeria. Details/Methods of payment can be hashed out later. Anyone thinking that The U.S.A will sit back and allow Ibos unleash terror on the Niger Delta, thereby destabilizing its Oil imports must be residing in Lala land! Anyone thinking The USA will deal with the Ibos, knowing how greedy, and cunning they are,  must be an even greater mo*ron than the average Ibo. . . . Ever wondered why The West will NEVER SUPPORT BIAFRA?! Its kinda hard dealing with 40 million EXTREMELY greedy motha effers. A buncha beasts that, historically, DONT support CENTRAL authority? Who wants to have dealings with them? Trust me, definitely not The United States.

Anyways, I left out a lot else that I could have used to make my picture clearer, but you guys are Yoruba so I believe you get the point. The West of Nigeria can definitely come out on top in all this, but they will have to let the Biafrans take the oil (and all the trouble that will come with it). Biafra's possession of the "prize" will be short-term; quote me on this. By the time the minorities rain terror on them, Ibos will only be too glad (even as greedy as they are) to relinquish possession of the Oil fields/Wells.

Forward this to your leaders, and you can come thank me in 20 years. . . . .[/quote]Damn! dude, you went Becomrichesque here  

But SW can sure do without the Oil. The Ilaje Oil is enough.

@Eku-bear, there's Oil off the coast of Ondo state, and possible more unexplored in the Ogun/Lagos Coastal axis.

You are right oil is not everything though.

matazzmagi:
Nigeria is a problem that can only fizzle away when its solution is applied - The dissolution of the behemoth cultured in ethnic hatred and religious violence. The devil's den waiting to be ravaged by justice. Biafra demands that its right be respected. Nigeria must evacuate its illegitimate institutions from Biafra. A reject nation that its day of reckoning surely comes.

You are preaching to the choir.

Dude, see the link below. Apparently, as far as this website is concerned, You are free to go. 85% at the last count. Even South Sudan referendum can't top that.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-600904.0.html

fstranger3:
I have been mostly impressed with oga DK

He has done a lotta damage to our Biafran brothers!

Warrior, we are not surprised, Oga DK is cut from the same cloth as his ancestor; Soun Ogbori elemoso, Abija wara bi ekun!

They don't just fight to defend civilians, even war-weary warriors take refuge in Ogbomoso. DK is simply keeping with tradition  

Damn!!! My Warriors went to War on this Thread!! Odu'a a gbe yin!

Katsumoto:
1. It is not a secret that of the three main regions, the west was the most under-represented region in the officer corp. This was even worse with NCOs.

2. Whilst Yoruba officers in the Army did not engage in any bloodletting (primarily because the Yoruba had seen war and conflict over a longer period than any other group in Nigeria and prefer diplomacy first), the same cannot be said for the Yoruba populace who went on the streets and got killed by the police action instituted by Balewa and his friends in power between 1962 and 1964 (I believe Igbo sons were in that cabinet). You can google Agbekoya

Katsumoto, You are most probably on the money with the bolded. The Yoruba region of Nigeria was neck deep in several Wars by the time the British arrived with their protectorate fraud.

Having to constantly fight off Fulani Islamic Jihadists and several internal warrior nations was something else, I'll take a rest too.

We need to look more at our history prior to 1960 to get a full grasp of who we really are.

EDIT

In street slang they call it, "Treat their fork UP"

Hahaha DK went evil today! Ogbori Elemoso!

^^ correct sir.

At worst there was indifference, maybe mild jubilation, Riot in western region after the 1966 coup?

People need to start sharing the good stuff they smoke before typing on NL. It's criminal to hoard good shyyte like that.