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@knowall, Oh please let them fight dirty! I like public mudslinging battles, don't be such a spoil sport. . .

Maybe they will let slip on some illegal background deals too, who knows. . .

Ibime:
As for Aganga. . . I can't believe this same man set up the Nigerian Leadership Initiative 4 years ago for Nigerian professionals around the globe. Now he is in a leadership position, we find him to be just like the status quo. Soludo raised true points about Govt spending, and we expect a cogent response.

You captured my thoughts exactly.

I too followed NLI's activities a bit and I was curiously waiting to see how Aganga will fare in office -if only to use him as another excuse to judge those around me who believe their "containment" ideas can work without us radically overturning Nigeria's fundamentally flawed system-  

The jury is still out, but the arguments are not in Aganga's favour.

Also, I care little about the economic abracadabra here. I believe a brilliant theorist can always twist things in his favour and confuse the majority, but the integrity matters a lot to me all the same.

Soludo raised some damning points, I'll wait for Aganga's response. I doubt he will say anything further though and that will be very sad indeed.

I wish we can force them to debate for 12 hours with only two pure-water breaks, that will be so worth the amount we pay them for all those extra allowances.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=593966.msg7632080#msg7632080 date=1296369491]Hrm, but you can get some of these wall street jobs straight out of college, if that is what you want to do. No point getting the PhD when you can just enter the field directly (at least, in theory.)[/quote]Right. But who knows, with brains and achievements like that he might be able to invent some new, profitable esoteric trading method and impress folks enough to spin off a brand new hedge fund for himself.

WTH!? Is this thread still about killing gay people? or murdering brainiacs?


[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=593966.msg7632033#msg7632033 date=1296368454]PhD, then postdoc for some awful # of years (multiple postdocs, realistically), and even then might not be able to get a job. Too much wahala.[/quote]Don't feel sorry for him, dude will probably join a hedge fund and buy a whole physics department before he's 30

T9ksy:
 to expect yorubas to embark on religious warfare. It will be tantamount to killing my family members for some religious god.[/i]

You did not lie.

Esin kan o pe ka wa ma s’oro loosely translated; No faith hampers the rituals of our togetherness/culture.

Yorubas don't do religious wars, they'll rather absorb your religion and make it succumb to the dictates of their culture.

It may be difficult for a non-Yoruba to grasp, but the more you get the concept the better you understand what it means to be an Omo O'dua.

Irunmoles don't hate. they ain't foolish either.

LoveKing:
@ShangoThor

is there any gory picture on that facebook page? gots to know before i click there

I'll advice you not to click that link bro, I just puked!

@OP: unless you are trying to raise an army that will put an end to this barbarism once and for all, abeg remove the link and preserve the dignity of those children.

seanet03:
We have our own Anthem and Government as at the 18th century. Lori oke ati Petele, ibe lagbe bi mi o, Ibe lagba to mi dagba o. Ile ominira. Emi omayo lori olumo emi osogo yii lokan mi wipe ilu olokiki o lawa EGBA n gbe. Mayo mayo mayo oo, lori OLUMO Mayo mayo mayo o, lori OLUMO. ABEOKUTA ILU EGBA n o ni gbagbe re, emi osogo yii lokan mi wipe ilu OLOKIKI o LAWA EGBA n gbeeee. Mayo mayo mayo o lori OLUMO OO. I am from ABEOKUTA.

Egba Omo Lisabi!!

O ku ai gbagbe. . .

^^Can't rule pure hate out.

WTH! Is it by force to buy BMW?!

@Eku_bear ok I will try to post a pic the British took before he died, I don't wanna add it now, his spirit likes war too much, he might turn y'alls little e-conflict into another thing. Hey. . Look him up sometime

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=594164.msg7623497#msg7623497 date=1296246602]Let me put it this way. . . the day that Igbos threaten Lagos is the day that your entire race will be put in jeopardy. Not just in Lagos, but in your very heartland.

Not trying to frighten you, but that is the reality. If you think Yoruba people hate you now. . . you've not seen anything yet. As things stand now, if Nigeria breaks apart, there will likely be relative peace.

But if Lagos is scratched in the process. . . there can only be longstanding enmity and warfare. And in a context like that in which I am at war with you and your people. . . well, you will end up my slaves. Simple as that.[/quote]Ekitiman,

Ever heard of Ogedengbe Agbogungboro?

He was the Balogun of Ilesha, Seriki Ajanaku of Ijeshaland, Commander-in-Chief of the Ekiti Parapo Army  

Total terror!

Oga DK, our Igbo brothers suppose give you correct Igwe title for your efforts towards ensuring Igbo unity, or maybe one good Igbo gal will do

His confusion was compounded when on checking in to his hotel, he discovered Ankara Tommy Hilfiger bedspreads and matching pillowcases.

LOL @ Mr Jowo Mabinu 

Can't get enough of Wazobia Reports 

This is too bad. It shows the danger faced by those who actually put their faces and names on their activism work. I hope his family gets justice soon. So sad.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7617874#msg7617874 date=1296178588]Hey!  You're a night owl.  You're in Naija, right?

Very nice pic and pretty girl.[/quote]I'm never in one place, so I'll just say home is in the head, heart is in Odu'a countryside 

Yes you guessed right, I prefer the night. . .

. . .The night is more alive and more richly colored than the day - Van Gogh

I don't know where Jenifa's from.  To be honest, the girl in the profile (don't know if it's her) looks like a number of girls in my extended family.  Different look for me - people don't know if I'm Yoruba, Benin or Igbo.

hahaha you are probably from Benin, I'll confirm from Becomrich.

Hey Jenifa, great pic! what country is she from?

I don't think there's anything or any creature on earth that is more beautiful than a bright eyed Black African girl.



[size=4pt]A billion$ check in my name comes a very very close second.[/size]

^^ I tell ya!

Although the row was settled through mediation by local elders, the table was later burned.

SMH


Seriously though, it seems anything can trigger ethnic and religious conflicts in Nigeria except the actions of our elite lootocrats.

I can't wait for the day my folks will drop the weapons, quit fighting themselves for a while, and join hands together to fight their looter-leaders, The real enemies.

I naively assumed Madam Dora was a "Rebranded" Nigerian, someone who has risen above all these ethnic politics. . .

What about pure merit? I slap myself back to reality.

^^ smh

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=590997.msg7615946#msg7615946 date=1296156373]Kilode, well I am told to stay the high ground and not go into discussions that hurt emotions. So my apology for even bringing it up folks.

However, I am still open to contribute in discussions to the healing process and the way forward.[/quote]OK bro, I'm sure that will be beneficial too.

In other news; The great Nigerian Military wants to go and save the good people of Ivory Coast from oppression and peacefully prevent mass killing in that country. . .

Obiagu1:
I used those to examplify the kind of analogies you were using.

Let me make it clearer as much as I could. Gay is against human nature, beastiality is against human nature, arficially giving a man a womb to bear kids is against human nature, and other examples. Such things should never be tolerated at all.

They are all satanic and against human nature and cannot be compared to things people deem satanic which are mostly religious. Religion has nothing to do with gay, it's simply against human nature.

I'm not trying to justify his killing because he is gay, I simply have justified his killing because he now preached gay and tried to spread it to my generations yet unborn. Let gays keep their gayness to their homes, anyone that goes to their homes is trespassing but gays should not come out and preach gay to us. Their activity is against human nature which I've tried to tolerate but when they want to tell me it is right and try to spread it, I won't waste time to get rid of the them.

I think I get you a bit now. You believe you know all about human nature right?

Obiagu, my brother, reduce the pride a bit. Doubt, skepticism and humility can be great virtues sometimes. Compassion too.

I can bet, YOU plus the whole collection of brains and intellect at Harvard, MIT and Cambridge combined cannot say for certain what human nature is. The totality of it, the breadth of it, all it encompasses or excludes. We do not know for sure.

We don't know everything about human nature yet, we keep discovering everyday.

Obiagu, Bro, Let us embrace critical intellectual humility. I may not like the guy's life style(that's if it's simply a lifestyle) but I don't think I can kill him for fighting for his own liberty, freedom and self expression.

I'm done with the topic.

morpheus24:
hehehe. I like that one, will use it from now on

Please do. I don't think it's copyrghted yet, I read it somewhere I can't remember now  

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=593966.msg7616260#msg7616260 date=1296159782]P.S. I hugged a transformer, and I'm fine.[/quote]Abeg o, don't hug transformer during rainy season o

Obiagu1:
This is why Nigerians keep failing common WAEC.

Talk about gay and human nature and do not come here to talk about stealing a pen or beating your wife.

Talk about gay, beastiality and the likes.

Bro, argue now. Show me where I mentioned stealing a pen or beating your wife.

I gave two examples.

1. Forced and arranged marriages and societies that victimize and sometimes kill those who speak out against them.

2. Killing someone because they spoke out against an oppressive blasphemy law( If you don't know Taseer's story, google it)


If you want to justify the killing of gays because you believe their act is satanic, fine. But then, you should be OK with the killing of anyone whose act is considered satanic anywhere.

See, let me break it down to you. If you want to be a bigot, it is OK. I think it's better to be an equal opportunity bigot though

Obiagu1:
You're really insane, we're talking about "gay" and you're talking about forced/arrange marriages.  

This has nothing to do with religion too,  period! I'm not a fanatics.

GAY IS AGAINST NATURE AND HUMANITY, CAN YOU GET IT!

Quit side stepping the point, argue with intellectual honesty.

You said;

how many of them came out to become "activists" on such things?

to me, that suggests that you think it is OK to kill him in that manner because he spoke out actively in support if the gay lifestyle.

and I asked further:

You know there are still places around where you will get a target on your back because you dare speak out against forced/arranged marriages, right? does that mean you should shut up?

Note: Salman Taseer the Pakistani Governor was recently gunned down in public for speaking out actively against oppressive islamic blasphemy laws. I guess you are a christian. Do you support his killer too?

If you don't like the first comparison question, answer the second one.

Do you also support the killing of Governor Taseer for speaking out actively against those blasphemy laws? (some of his countrymen consider his stance satanic too)

I will appreciate if you can answer.

Obiagu1:
. . . and how many of them came out to become "activists" on such things? Like I said before, restrict your gay activity to your room and to your room only.

So your own solution is to celebrate the extra judicial public execution of those who publicly speak out in support of their own chosen sexual lifestyles?

You know there are still places around where you will get a target on your back because you dare speak out against forced/arranged marriages, right? does that mean you should shut up?

Note: Salman Taseer the Pakistani Governor was recently gunned down in public for speaking out actively against oppressive islamic blasphemy laws. I guess you are a christian. Do you support his killer too?

Obiagu1:
. . . and to equate gay to the above is just stupidity.

Gay is against human nature and can only be equated to beastiality.

Unfortunately I cannot remember the last time we gave someone accused of "bestiality such brutish, definitely "bestial" mob execution.

Refresh our memory please.

@Jarus, can you send Salim Hassan an e-mail and ask him to come on Nairaland to defend his thoughts and analysis?

He might say no and he might oblige us, assure him it will be well moderated.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=590997.msg7614963#msg7614963 date=1296145830]I need one or two of your people who are interested in digging up the root of this conflict so we can make true assessment and pinpoint (1) where your folks went wrong; (2) where you are now; (3) where you wantto go and (4) how to get there.[/quote]Is someone going to take Negro_Nts up on his challenge?

I think it will enrich the discourse here.

Any takers?

fstranger1:
Did Aare's post finally get under your skin?

Ultimately no. That was a Morpheus and Neo moment between Aare and I, we reconciled it before the Oracle. Replace "absurdity" with "awesomeness" and it will be clearer

Becomrichn:
Kilode?! = fstranger1 =jason123 =beaf=Ileke-IdI =blacksta= seun osewa

Aare wa, you finally promoted me to the list! and to think you delivered a masterpiece of purely inspired absurdity afterwards?

I'm honoured

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7610685#msg7610685 date=1296091596]I haven't even begun to write my personal thoughts.  They "can't handle the truth."  

We're not gonna do hookups.  You didn't read the small print? That was just a joke.  Am gonna edit it out.

I said I am proud my African brother is president.

P.S. Stranger is the one ripping him to shreds! Okay, I'm disappointed, but I wouldn't say it out loud - in person. I'm jaded about Ameican Politics cos I've studied and paid attention to it for so long.[/quote]Ok I misunderstood. Don't edit. leave it, it fits the flow of the thread.

I know, You shouldn't be listening to SOTU speeches anyway, you probably know too much about how those things work, I watched it with a  cynical mind and a   myself.

I believe Fstranger is keeping with the warrior tradition of putting foreigners where they belong. . .

Ok, I'll take my leave now, check back again soon.

Thoughts for now: Frequent updates will keep it alive, folks will probably keep coming back if it's consistently updated with Nigerians-living-in-USA issues.