₦airaland Forum

princejayboss:
Oga you are wrong.... Kingship have run in my family for more Than 5 generation now ... As a prince that sat beside the stool of the king... I can tell you authoritatively that Nri was and is and will still be the the father of igbo people...

Go back to your king and ask questions about what the OP wrote ... He is right

U need to correct urself! How can u ignorantly claim dat a priestly/warrior personality (Eri) who emerged only as recently as 900AD is d father of all Igbos? Do u knw dat Igbo pipo hav being occupyin dia present homelands hundreds of years bfor d rise of Nri? My point is dat Igbo communities hav been existing in d South-East long bfor Eri came wit his migrant party (probably frm d ancient Aka Kingdom/Benin during d Ogiso era in 900AD) to establish a kingdom in d midst of republican Igbo pipo.

Udmaster:
Nri is the father of all Igbos, the oldest kingdom in Nigeria which is Nri Kingdom and the IGBO UKWU CIVILIZATION attest to that..
- The Abia, Imo, Ebonyi people anciently migrated from Nri Kingdom.
Even the Eke Orie Nkwo Afor Market Day Counting originated from NRI.

Dat is a wrong assertn, guy! In terms of antiquity, how will u compare Nri (Eri) which startd in 900AD to d Ogiso Dynasty of Benin (Aka Kingdom) which began frm around 600AD and lastd uptil 900AD when it collapsd? There ar even insinuations dat d legendary Igbo "Eri" was an "Aka" (Benin) royal priest/warrior who left d ancient "Aka Kingdom" (Beninland) followin d collapse of d Ogiso Dynasty in 900AD, and migrated east wit his party where he founded a new domain/kingdom in d present day Aguleri/Umuleri areas of Anambra State. It is also probable dat d priestly kingdom establishd by Eri was later named "Eri-Aka" by his followers in remembrance of ancient "Aka Kingdom" where they migrated frm!

wiseoneking:
You yoruba boy again, who do you refer to us. Ifeanyi okowa of Delta is an hausa man or Nwike is a yoruba man to you. Continue to deceive your self. If SS is made a country today, an igbo man will still be a president and dominates. NOI, Edozien, Okowa, ovia, okocha, keshi, utom utomi, etc they are all conoid or resemble your ancestors? A mature woman like you should know better. Lol

Stop foolin urself! Apart frm Rivers, Igbos ar minority in Delta State. D emergence of Okowa as Govnor was made posible by PDP's zoning arrangment of d govnorship positn introduced by James Ibori just to promote equity and fairnes among d 3 senatorial districts, because since d creatn of Delta State d Igbos hav neva produced d govnor. They complaind of marginalizatn and dat they bin allow to occupy d govnorship positn. If not for zoning formula to compensate Delta North, an Igboman won't hav bin govnor in Delta State. Even so, Okowa stil remain Ibori's boy!

Among all d names Nnamdi Kanu mentioned as his cordinators nd representatives around d globe, did anybody see a non-Igbo Niger-Deltan name or person among them? Dat is even enorf to prove to d world dat non-Igbo Niger-Deltans hav no stake in d proposd Biafra! Biafra is exclusivly an Igbo project, nd any minority dat mistakenly or ignorantly agreed to join them we hav themselvs to blame! Wat hope do they hav of attainin any reasonable position in Biafra's govt? Will they b able to compete wit d Igbos who wil constitute about 80-90% of populatn of Biafra? No doubt, Igbo language wil automaticaly become d official language! Evry arm (executive, legislative nd d judiciary) of govt of d proposd Biafra wil b taken over nd completly overwhelmd by d Igbos wit d minorities relegated to d background! Dis is why d ND minorities ar very sceptical of joinin d Biafran movt, because it may amount to jumpin frm fryin pan to fire! GOD forbid bad thing! Thank GOD my pipo (Urhobo-Isoko) hav since disassociatd ourselvs frm Biafra.

bigfrancis21:
Lol. Igbo culture and history is the oldest of all groups in southern region. Nri civilization came into for around 900AD, 300 years before Ife civilization came into fore in 1200s and 700 years before the Benin empire rose to influence in the 1600s. The effect of the civil war has given riff-rats the impetus to talk down on an old, revered and ancient culture such as the Igbo culture and for newbies to even claim they are the parents of a way older civilization. Get a book and eductae yourself please.

Mirage indeed.

Guy! It seems u don't knw much about earlier civilizatns dat existd in d Benin region prior to d Oba Dynasty. D Oba Dynasty in Benin was by far a later/recent dynasty which sprang up only in d 1100s AD. U shuld knw dat bfor d rise of d Oba dynasty there were earlier dynasties prominent among them was d Ogiso Dynasty which reigned frm btw 700AD to 900AD. D Nri (Eri) Dynasty only emergd afta d collapse of d Ogiso Dynasty in d 900s.

bigfrancis21:
I typed out a long response to this your post using my iPad and stepped out for some minutes only to get back and unlock my iPad and the page automatically refreshed wiping out all my typed response. I will respond to this post of yours.

Okay! Happy newyear to u in d first place.

shizzy7:
The men in the first picture looks like transgenders...
They call it Love and protection of human rights...


Nigeria never civilize reach this level.

Dear! Dat isn't civilizatn, but rather, an open display of societal/moral decadence which evry genuine Christian must guard against in dis generatn.

shizzy7:
The men in the first picture looks like transgenders...
They call it Love and protection of human rights...


Nigeria never civilize reach this level.

Dear! dat isn't civilizatn, but rather, an open display of societal/moral decadence which evry genuine Christian must guard against in dis generatn.

It has become the sine qua non for any dissenting Igbo clan to claim Bini ancestry to 'disassociate' from the Igbo culture.


@BigFrancis.

I liked it when u said dat "ethnicity today is defined by a pipo's current ethnolinguistic affilliatn nd not necessarily where they migrated frm". Of a truth, language is very dynamic nd can b alterd when isolated frm its root (parent language), or when influencd by a mor forceful/larger language. For exmpo, Arhagba-Orogun is an Urhobo town, but do u knw dat presently Igbo language hav virtualy replaced/wipe out Urhobo language frm dat community? Do u knw dat many youths in Arhagba today can't speak or undastand Urhobo anymor but ar very fluent in Igbo? Durin my first visit to Arhagba in 2011, I thought I was in Igboland, because Igbo was bin spoken evrywhere! I was even mor surprised when there was a crusade in d town nd they were interpretin in Igbo instead of Urhobo d aboriginal language! I used Arhagba to show dat language alone shuldn't determine origin of a pipo

searchiing4love:
THE ONLY WAY TO WIN THE HEART OF THE AVERAGE GULLIBLE NIGERIAN IS THROUGH RELIGION AND THE PROMISE OF A BETTER LIFE IN HEAVEN . THE POLITICIANS KNOWS THIS AND THEY HAVE PERFECTED THEIR ACTS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE RELIGIOUS/BIBLICAL SCAMMERS CALLED "GOD OF MEN" TO USE RELIGION AS A TOOL FOR OPPRESSION AND MIND CONTROL. INSTEAD OF BUILDING HOSPITALS, FACTORIES, GOOD SCHOOLS AND SO ON, THE MOFO CALLED DICKSON DECIDED TO BUILD A BIG CHURCH SO BAYELSANS CAN COME THERE TO CALL ON GOD TO COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS.
ROCHAS IS BUILDING THE BIGGEST JESUS CHRIST IN IMO STATE WHILE HIS WORKERS ARE DYING OF HUNGER AND UNPAID SALARY. IT SHALL NEVER BE WELL WITH THOSE WHO INVENTED RELIGION. IT IS INDEED MODERN DAY FORM OF ENSLAVING AFRICANS

It wil b better u extend dat ur search for lov to seekin for truth about ur Creator(D ALMIGTHY GOD) nd d need to serve HIM faithfuly. JESUS CHRIST alone is our stndard/role model not pastors.

ylordy:
I know that christianity is NOT a religion....

If dat is ur summary of Christianity then u hav not startd as a Christian. U need to wake up to reality nd study d Bible mor diligently for proper understandin of what it means to b a genuine Christian.

ckmayoca:
It is called love. They looking out for thier own and making them comfortable they are one. When new states are being created communities shld be merged together to same language communities. Hausa's r intact but the Yoruba's and igbo are seperated and called SS and NC.

U spoke out of ignorance! Do u think all Hausa lands ar concentrated or found in just one geo-political zone (i.e. NW)? Ar Hausa communities not also scattered or found in other geo-political zones (NE nd NC) just like d Igbos nd d Yorubas? Don't cry wolf where there is none. God bless us. Happy NewYear 2016.

I don't think it's true, because by 800yrs ago d whole of Europe was already fairly civilizd nd partitiond into kingdoms governd by kings. By 800yrs ago, Europe was already advancin intellectually particularly in d areas of writing nd proper record-keepin of events of those period. There were already considerable numba of scholars in Europe at dat time, how come they were unaware of dat gadget? By 800yrs Austria was already an organizd kingdom/empire wit regular schools where childrn of d elites were trained/educated, why was such an inventn not mentiond by royal record-keepers? Do u also knw dat d Austrian Empire survivd those hundred of yrs into modern time until d 1st World War in 1918 when d Austrian-Hungarian Empire collapsd followin d assassinatn of Archduke Fedinnard in Austria? Ar u also aware dat Oxford University was already founded by dat time nd Oxford is mor dan 800yrs old? If it's really true, how come such an inventn was no where captured or recorded by scholars of dat era in dia various works?

asorocker:
Are IPOB engineers this advanced, my thoughts are that if IPOB have this level of advanced engineering then Nigeria is really playing with a more complex and intriguing situation

Guy, transmitters ar sold in d ICT market. U don't need to b technologicaly advanced bfor purchasing transmitters or mounting them on suitable platforms (e.g masts) as long as u hav d money to do dat. All d private radio/TV stations in Nigeria use transmitters to broadcast dia messages/send dia signals. Will u because of dat now conclud therefor dat those Nigerian private radio stations ar advanced in engineering just because they broadcast thru transmitters? Peace b wit us.

Amberon:
are you kidding me?? No, like seriously? for real? is this what pastor Chris has been preaching to you?,that masturbation isn't a sin but the motive behind it is?

Holy Moses!!! this is the most absurd thing I've heard all my life. So murder is not a sin but the motive behind it is a sin. fornication and adultery are not sins, only the motive behind them are sins.

I'm really sorry for you..

Dat is exactly wat u get when u allow a pastor to brainwash u witout u personaly study d Bible to knw GOD's command on a particular issue! Don't blame him too much. He needs sincere repentance nd deliverance frm wrong teachings. I was once a member while in d university. It was virtualy a place for tolerance of worldlines, by pipo who at d same time call themselvs Xtians. GOD forgive me if I hav done wrong here because I can't say I don't sin, but d word of GOD shuldn't b twistd as excuse to justify sin. My GOD forgiv us all nd lead us thru d right path in JESUS's NAME. AMEN.

Lordave:
Are we talking about 2006 census or 2015 estimation of ethnic populations in Nigeria.

I have a case there that's why the man couldn't refute the fact I stated.

D north is widely known or rumourd to hav massively inflated dia populatn figures durin previous national census exercises, nd dis hav bin to dia own advantage interms of allocatn of national wealth or beneficts.

Lordave:
Ask the Hausas their take on Biafra, they'll say Igbo land is too small it can't contain every Igbo person, that's why majority of them live outside Igboland.

Ask the same Hausa people which ethnic group has the largest population, they'll shout Hausa-fulani?

Is Hausa-fulani an ethnic group?
If majority of Igbos leave outside Igboland and we still have more than 25 million Igbos living in Igboland, how then is Hausa or Fulani the largest ethnic group in Nigeria?

Accordin to d 2006 national census, is d total populatn size of d 5 Igbo states of d SE up to 25million? U shuld knw dat in terms of size of landmass, only Taraba State is larger than d 5 Igbo states combined. Populatn density is relative to d size of landmass. E.g, d populatn density of Nigeria is higher dan dat of USA because Nigeria has a far smaller landmass compare USA, even though d USA actualy has mor populatn dan Nigeria.

theSpark:
Between 1920 and 2006 the population jumped from 18m to about 150m. Nigerians reproduce well. By 2020 we go dey 200 million.

@theSpark.
I don't believ Nigeria is up to 150million presently. Dis is because d 2006 national census was full of monumental fraud. We witnessd situatns in many places where d headcounts were over-inflated, to d extent of even doublin or triplin d actual figures gotten frm d field. In many communities, politicians nd tribal leaders bribed census officers nd used palm-kernel shells to fake human thumbprints just to inflate d populatn figures of dia domains/areas. In essence, d 2006 national census exercise is not a true reflectn of d populatn size of Nigeria. If u ar in doubt, just look at d numba of registerd voters in Nigeria which is a mor reliable data nd see whether d figure is even close to 100million. Also look at d total numba of votes casted for all parties durin d 2015 presidntial electn which is not up to 35million votes.

asorocker:
Even if Nnamdi kanu called niger deltans cowards and so what? What of the people who called niger deltans drunk fishermen odechukwu, dullard, and called their women shepopotamus, umbrella and other derogatory names.

Niger deltans should wake up and do the needful, your oil has been taken over by thieves, the same thieves pushed your son out of office to install a demented, illiterate soldier as their leader instead of a PhD holder.

The same people are on the verge of sending your daughter deziani to jail, your son Goodluck Jonathan to prison and your defenders tompolo and Asari to the dungeon.
I repeat niger deltans should get up from their slumber and be wise.

U call Tompolo nd Asari our defenders? Those selfish, greedy, criminal-like individuals who were only after dia personal gains nd care less about actual devpt of d Niger-Delta? Haven't u read in d news dat Tompolo's kinsmen of Okerenkoko supprt EFCC? U ar probably high on som cheap Igbo weeds!

Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, " I
am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending.


@Malvisguy.
It seems dat Christians today do not knw who is GOD ALMIGTHY (JEHOVAH) nd who is JESUS CHRIST (our Savior) d only begotten Son of d ALMIGTHY GOD. Maybe dis is because nowadays pastors focus dia preachings majorly on JESUS to d extent dat many Christians now think JESUS is d same as JEHOVAH GOD ALMIGTHY d Creator of d Universe nd Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if u read d New Testament very well, u wil find out dat d Bible specified who is d ALMIGTHY GOD (who sent His Son to redeem d world) nd who is JESUS CHRIST (who is d Son sent). A closer examinatn of dat Rev 1:8 u quoted shows dat it is rather referrin to d ALMIGTHY GOD (d Father of our Lord JESUS CHRIST). Bros, if u read Revelatn thoroughly frm chapter 1 verse 1 to verse 8, u wil understand wat I'm sayin. It is even specified there dat d Revelatn of d last days was not originatd by JESUS, but was given to JESUS by GOD to show us His servants.

queentell:
so why is Nnamdi kanu locked up and even when court gave order to release him the DSS refused?

Woman, knw dat freedom of speech has limits even in d constitutn. E.g. a situatn when a British citizen openly threaten to assassinate d Queen of England or d British PM or usin derogatory language against them or incitin hatred, do u think d British Govt/Authorities knwn globally for safeguardin of democratic principles nd human rights, won't arrest nd charge such a person to court for libel, or threat to life, or for incitin hatred? Nnamdi made mistakes in his so-calld fight for self-determinatn for Igbo pipo by broadcastin hate speeches nd callin those who refusd to align wit his dreams derogatory names. Nd it seems dat explains why d UN nd d Western World leaders didn't took him serious, nd ar not even sayin anythin to pressuriz d Nigerian Govt to release him. Its like they knw dat Nnamdi crossd boundary. Do u think those hate speechs weren't recorded as evidenc?

Linguistically, d Epie-Attissa language is no where similar to d Ijaw language. D classificatn of Epie-Atissa as Ijaw group is mainly for political convenience nd for sake of d same mangrove envt they share, nd not because of language similarity at all. Linguistically, d Epie-Atissa language is obviously closer to Urhobo-Isoko language nd of course, d general Edoid language family than to Ijaw language. Som of d sentences u made here in Epie-Atissa share very close similarities wit Urhobo-Isoko. E.g., "Who ar u?" in Urhobo language can also also b expressd as="We ovo?". "I'm John" in Urhobo-Isoko can b written alternativly as="meme John". I'm Epie man can also b expressd in Urhobo-Isoko as="Me omo Epie".

thisisayus:
Lemme explain to those who don't know.
Accord was signed during the tension that was before the war.
It was agreed that Nigeria should run a confederal system of govt and the central(gowon) shld be weak. Just like tanzayaki and Zanzibar (Now Tanzania) and Senegal, Swaziland and Gambia (defunct senegambia) . Gowon agreed to the accord but on getting to Nigeria where he narrated the content to Awo(special adviser and minister of finance) who now advised him not to honor the accord and gowon accepted Awo's advices (reason why igbos hate Awo).
It was after then Naira and kobo, right and drive was changed to left hand, 12states was created just to weaken ojukwu's secession's plan. But it angered him and war broke out.

Nice write-up! D spellin is "Tanganyika" nd not "Tanzayaki". D name Tanzania as a country was derivd frm joint abbreviatn of TANganyika nd ZANzibar. It was just only Senegal nd Gambia dat briefly unite to form SENEGAMBIA. Swaziland not part of them.

Duru1:
Per the bolded, silly analogy at its foolishness. Self determination has nothing to do with war or ethnic cleansing or even ethnic uprising. In Nigeria, like Gowon said in 1966, there is no basis for unity. I should never have been a compatriot of Yari.ba or Awusa or Fula or Kanuri because I cannot understand their native vernacular. There is no iota of inciting wards in the speeches of Kanu because it does not ask his followers to kill others but begged to leave the cesspit called Nigeria. What is heard to comprehend?

U said there is no base for unity in Nigeria because u don't undastand d native vernaculars of Yoruba, Hausa, Fula or Kanuri. Now my question to u is: If language is d chief criterion for unity, on wat basis do ur pipo now want to includ us non-Igbo Niger-Deltans in ur Igbo Biafra? Or ar u tryin to say dat we Urhobos/Isokos, Ijaws, Itsekiris, Ogonis, Ekois, Efiks/Ibibios, share d same native vernacular wit u Igbos? Pls, stop dis self-deceiptn! Ok?

ProfessorPeter:
If Idoma fail to re elect David Mark, they will regret for not voting him the way Nigerians are regretting for not voting GEJ

Maybe it is u dat is regretin not votin GEJ. As for me nd majority of Nigerians we ar very glad nd happy dat Buhari emerged our president. GEJ who is my fellow Niger-Deltan failed to use d rare opportunity he had as president to rapidly uplift devpt of our oil-rich region. Instead, he surrounded himself wit sycophants nd nearly collapsd Nigeria wit his bad govt. Truth b told, PMB is far mor a better president than GEJ. Seven months of Buhari's rule is not enorf time to start condemnin an administratn dat has four years of first term to reign.

ruffhandu:
Is that one of the names Kenyans call Nigeria, Ogaland? Hahahahaha.

Dat is d name ("oga" we Nigerians (irrespective of tribes) generally use to address a "boss" or any leader as mark of respect. Oga is one d commonest Nigerian words a foreigner learns on arrival in Nigeria, nd I assumed dat was why they referred to Nigeria as "Ogaland".

Love Machine:
What treasonable offense has kanu committed when the people(British govt)who amalgamated the south,east,West and north wrote that after 100years we can split if we wish.Nigeria amalgamation was never signed by u.n or nigerian leaders.Can you provide a document on that?

I thought u ar educatd, why dis laughable lie u ar tellin d public? In which document did u found it where d British stated dat afta 100 years of amalgamatn Nigeria shuld b desolvd? Did u study Nigeria's political evolutn history at all? For ur informatn, d British did not amalgamate south, east, north or west Nigeria because there were no such political entities as at 1914. Rather, wat we had then were namely: SOUTHERN NIGERIA PROTECTORATE nd NORTHERN NIGERIA PROTECTORATE, nd it was just these two protectorates d British Colonialists almagamatd to form a single country (Nigeria) in order to reduce administrativ costs. It was in later years dat Southern Nigeria was splitted into western nd eastern regions.

fratermathy:
Not enough information. This church has a unique history that must be known by all and sundry. It is the only truly syncretic Christian Church. A combination of ATR and Christianity!

This church is older than most of these new church merchandises in Nigeria! It's a church to visit for its historical place in Benin history. Please, you all should make more research on this landmark of African history.

I had once visited dis historic site (d Holy Aruosa Cathedral) durin one of our fieldworks/research tours while schoolin in UNIBEN. We were allowed to enter d main worship hall of d cathedral. D inner design was just like normal church hall wit pulpit for d preacher. D man who led us into d cathedral educatd us dat d Holy Aruosa was product of early Portuguese missionaries who introduced Christianity to Benin kingdom in d 14th century A.D. Wen d Portuguese left, d Binis who continued wit d church,gradualy mix Christian doctrines wit Bini traditnal beliefs.

jaymejate:
Masquerade as father Xmas

Sometimes, Nigeria is a very funny nd amusing country.

Donarozzi:
Just see the map below. Igbo constitutes about 36% of Delta State land mass. Isoko is grouped as part of Urhobo.

Who is d shameless individual dat drafted dat map wit criminal intention of misledin d unsuspectin viewin/readin public? For d sake of correctn, dat deceiptiv map does not reflect d true ethnic compositn of Delta State. Vast portions of Urhobo/Isoko lands in dat fallacious/mischievious map were criminally allocated/awarded to Ijaw, Itsekiri nd Anioma groups.

pazienza:
The Ukwuani region sheltered too many Isoko settlers in a time past, most of these Isokos have assimilated fully into the Ukwuani/ Ndokwa Igbo culture, by Adopting Igbo names culture and traditions of Ukwuani aboriginals, while some of them retained their Original Isoko nature, but most of these people know of a truth that they are not of Igbo lineage.

And I suspect that some of these "my papa say we no be Ibo people", might actually be right. It could be true that they are not Igbos, but it is also true that the land they presently occupy is Igboland, and the Ukwuani aboriginals from those lands will always remain true to their Igbo nature.

But d generality of d Ukwuani/Ndokwa pipo hav always denied being Igbos! Even dia socio-cultural bodies hav repeatedly sound it clear dat Ndokwas ar not Igbos, but ar a differnt ethnic group. They've defined dia ethnic identity, so wat else do u want? Or is it u a stranger frm Igbo south-east dat wil tell them dia origin?

gboss4sure:
There wont be a war between iran and nigeria, however in the possibility of a war, iran will decimate nigeria within hours, who is going to defend nigeria? is it the military that runs from boko haram?

However Iran might engage Nigeria government in cyber warfare and terror attacks which will be very very ugly.

To b frank wit ourselvs, d Nigerian Armed Forces had bin bastardizd nd under-equiped ova d years due to corrupt leadership. As it is now, Nigeria don't hav d military capability to witstand any war wit a country like Iran. Even in Africa here, countries like South-Africa, Algeria, Egypt, Morrocco, Ethiopia, hav far stronger nd better equiped military forces than Nigeria. It is funny dat som Nigerians mistake contributn of troops for peace-keep missions unda d UN, AU nd ECOWAS as evidence of military strength, which is not true. D Federal Govt needs to urgently revamp nd equip d military wit latest weapons nd training to meet up wit modern challenges.