₦airaland Forum

It is very shameful when people talk so ignorantly that the wise would have pity on them.is nigerian population up to 140 million?how many people in a state have up to a million dollar?an average of 6500 millionaires in each lga!!if that is the case then we are not poor.for those who didn't know,most of those choice properties are owned by selected few who belong mostly to the political class. and they cannot be up to 500,000.


Your point has been noted, we are exchanging ideas here nobody knows for sure the true figure, I beleif it should not be more than 5 million people out of a population of 145 million I think that is a fair estimate. Some people beleif it should be even more. My suggestion that it may be as high as 35 million is a humourous joke u can tell by the puzzled look and the pulling faces expression I am only trying to highlighting the ills of our society albeit Chioma, Akala's daughter and Odili.


how many people in a state have up to a million dollar?  - Would anybody annouce to the world I am worth 1 Million dollars, no I dont think so who wants EFCC to start investigating them.

Greed and corruption would never allow them unite.

So we just have to keep managing the corrupt PDP leaders for the time being or until God himself send us help from above.


If Ghana can do it, there is no reason why we cant, for democracy to really work a non performing administration needs to be voted out of office. When that happens then I will say to myself Niaja has arrived, we wait patiently for that day.

@Crazykid

The opposition does not have a choice 45 parties challenging 1 dominant party, that is a recipee for disaster for the oppostion. They have to come together as one and also attract into their ranks disgruntled PDP members if they are to have any chance.

Am also a millionaire, so?-

Lucky you, u are probably one of the 1 in 4 who are millionaires good luck to you ,

P.S:- You can go through my posts on the subject matter again to gather substance. . .



There is nothing to substantiate in a thread that leaves just little room to manoeuvre out of the subject matter which is a “ Governor’s action and the presidency’s reaction “ any attempt to circumvent the main issue here we be totally off the mark, and I am afraid you have just hit a brick wall.

As you said no hard feelings.

@
IFELEKE
[b]What are you argueing about : It is your own argument that lacks substance u are totally off course from the the subject matter which is the error of the Governor dissolving the LG and the presidency taking advantage of this error. The issues u are raising are irrelevant to the thread. Issues bothering on what powers the constitution gives the Governor, if u want us to talk about that we will blog from now till Christ comes back, I dont really have the time for something that is off subject.


The are the facts as it stands on the ground as of today

1. The LG Chairmen / women are back to work yes or No

2. But the Chairman of the PDP in the state, Dr. Tayo Dairo, who accused Mimiko of violating the 1999 Constitution, said that the party would not allow the mandate given to council chairmen to be violated. He said that the PDP in the state was averse to “autocratic rule and abuse of power” by Mimiko, whom he described as one of the beneficiaries of the rule of law. -

I made mention of this particular fact the only reason why the presidency acted was the Governor made an error dissolving the LG COUNCILS instead of him allowing for the courts to make a judgement on this issue .

3. The ex-council chiefs had on Monday resumed work almost two weeks after Mimiko announced the dissolution of PDP -controlled LGAs on March 4, 2009. They had claimed that they were ordered back to work by the Presidency and the State House of Assembly. -

I also made it clear that the HSE OF ASSBLY did not in any way supported the Governor's decision, and at least we are in agreement that the Governor needs 2/3 of the house for dissolution to take place.

4. The sacked chairmen who had vowed not to surrender their mandate without a fight were also in the council secretariats on Tuesday. -

Why should they surrender their mandate I made mention of this fact if you go through my thread, did Mimiko surrender his mandate he is also a beneficiary of Yardua's inspired due process.

5. When contacted on the telephone, the chairman of the Association of Local Governments of Nigeria in Ondo State, Chief Adedayo Omolafe, insisted that the councils had not been dissolved. -


That is from the horses mouth LG has not been dissolve, please stop arguing baseless argument.

6. Omolafe, who is also the former chairman of Akure South LGA said, “The only authority that has the power to dissolve the local government is the Ondo State House of Assembly and the House is yet to do anything in that regard. “So, there was no dissolution of local government anywhere in Ondo State.” -

Loud and Clear message the house has not done anything about the issue as it stands today, it may change in the weeks and months to come that is anyone's guess and that is not the issue on this thread.


7. The removed council chiefs had initially obeyed the governor’s order but suddenly resumed work on Monday following what was gathered by our correspondent to be a move by “from Abuja” to prevent the PDP from total “loss of face.” in Ondo State. -


that is why it was a mastroke from the presidency, he knew the Governor had err and he quickly capitalised on his errors, the Governor should surround himself with wiser advisers than he currently have at the moment. .

8. True there is court injuction b4 the LG election took place, that is not the essence of the thread, the essence of the thread is the error of the Governor that is the bone of contention and not the court injuntion.


And like I said the court decision is a debate for another day and irelevant to this thread.

The Governor can dissolve by Executive Order but He must duly notify the House of his intentions

A Governor can only dissolve by executive order if 2/3 of the house of Assembly are in agreement. The Governor has no such power to dissolves LG willy nilly. The house here is a PDP dominated house, you dont seem know the political landscape here you are looking at it from a general perspective, but when a Governor is refered to as a lame duck his power to influenec the house of assembly diminishes considerably.

@Ifeleke

Yaradua is not meddling with the affairs of Ondo state he is only allowing the status quo to remain as it is, until such time that 2/3 of the house decides or the court decides the final out come. The presidency will however abide by what the courts decides or HSA . It can be assumed that the presidency has capitalised on the Governors error to reverse the Govermors pronoucement therby underming his authority in the state.

Mr knowall have you finished perfecting your strategy to come back to nigeria to loot your constituency?

I am afraid your comment is not adding any value to this thread this is a personal attack, I will ignore such comment next time.

Which due process??

Go through th Nigerian constitution and find ou who has jurisdiction over LGs??

Rather than send the police men to battle armed robber in Oyo state,he's deceiving himself with all these shenanigans??

Its very simple,if you feel the governor has violated any law you get a restraining order dfrom the courts,you can't be taking side just because you appoint the inept IG of police.

It may take time ,but the nigerian people will overcome all these none-entities we call leaders !

I think every single one of those Chairmen and women have the same mandate to their constituency as the Governor himself, if Yardua did not act a precedent would have been established and grassroot democracy would have taken a big knock. We should commend the precedent for his quick reation even though it is politically motivated but there you go again that is politics.

"Yar'Adua is a confused as his health would have him express his confusion. . . . . .

A real pity for a country dat needs strong ,vibrant leadership in this hour of need !!!"

His due process worked on this occassion and we should commend him for a job well done.

Quantative Easing

Is a form of printing money, but this time not physical money but electronic money. The USA has been doing easing its currrency since November 2008, The UK will commence easing hers from next month.

What does it actually means - Major banks in UK and USA have serious cash flow problems because of their exposure to the sub prime market leading to serious toxic debt in their accounts. The goverments of these countries have decided to bail out troubled banks that have over - exposure and by bailing out comes the easing

Easing process -  The Busineses provided by banks in the UK and USA are different from say Nigeria, the banks need to lend to small businesses for the economy to be ticking over.  If for what so ever reason  funds are not forthcoming to small businesses there would be a down turn in the company which will invariably lead to laying off and subsequently increasing the un-employment figures.  Small busineses employs 75% of the population so it is vital the Banks extends credit to small busineses.

Bailing out - The Goverment increasese the money in circulation by credicting the banks that are been bailed out. Basically $75 Billion can be credicted into a bailed out bank's account over night, the effect is like printing physical money the only difference is that this money is used by the bank to generate more businesses thereby stimulating the economy by giving funds to creditors and giving mortgages to those that require it.

Would it work in Nigeria   - Nigeria banks dont borrow to small busineses, that is why we have a very high un-employment rate in Nigeria. However the Goverment can stimulate the economy by giving some of our major banks money from the reserves that stands at $52billion to lend to un-employed  university graduates that has good business plan at very low rate of intrest. If 60% of such busineses succeed that could interprete to as high as 40 million people absorbed into the labour market. But I have my reservations if this will ever be implemented.

@Nuzo

The presidency as one of the custodians of our constitution has identified the errors of an unruly Governor and acted fast in stopping the illegality. You call this “I am in love with such a mess” , having already told u I am a political animal, If this is not politics of the highest level then what is politics. Clearly I can see politics is not your thing and I will suggest your passion might lie in some other threads have you tried the sexuality or romance thread, you might be of more help there than here.

Now, that is not my problem; my problem is finding out what motivated you to be in love with such a dirty twist and turn politics?


dirty twist and turn politics? - The proper name of twist and turn in this context in politics is politicking but to a lay man it is twist and turn, I dont see any reason why u getting so worked up and confused by a simple usage of words, u are derailing the thread by going off topic.

@ Nuzo

Twist are turns is politics and that is how is played in every democracy, twist and turns has been part of politcs since the begining of time. The problem with Nigerians and people like you is that you have become so accustomed to dictatorship ( Abacha type of rule, turn left u go u turn left, turn right u go turn right ) that u have not the slightest clue how politics is played or how it is to be played. If the same scenerio( ondo state issue ) happens in a PDP state where u have a PDP Governor it will be a different outcome. Do you know politics is a game

Are you for real?
How can a sane nigerian fall in love with the huge mess you call twist and turn? Are nigerians not tired yet?

Lawd have mercy.

The twist and turn only arose because of the unruly, uncostitutional and unthoughtful behaiviour of the Governor. You cannot blame Nigerians for that.