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Interesting how everyone has skewed the ratio in favour of boys. 2 to 1, 3 to 1. of course its better that way( any guy born into a family with overwhelming majority of girls will tell you, they will always win no matter what strategy you use. )

I would not really mind having a large family if i can afford to feed and take care of them but in the end it all depends on God and my wife.

@y'all thanks.

@DE-King Now i know you don't like me. You haven't seen all those bag-lifters afterhours. Their backs are permanently bent as if they are carrying something. just kidding.

Well i am 5 foot 9(and increasing) and i seem to grow lengthwise instead of horizontally. That might be a reason.

even if nobody applauds , I will. why?

because in addition to colonising this site you have been chosen as the faceoffestac face of the week. you are lucky you are not resident in nigeria or we wud have filled your sms queue with proposals.

stay cute.

The woman concerned was a jehovah witness(non-jew) who fell in love with an isreali jew. According to isreali law at the time (it should be about 98 or thereabout) you had to make an application for marriage to your superior officer and then it would proceed to the normal jewish wedding (chair dances, passing under the arch etc). but in this case the judges ruled that the man(a military officer) was not going to be allowed to marry the woman within the jewish state.
Her crimes: she was not jewish, she was a jehovah witness and she wasn't even ready to change to judaism.

They had to leave Israel. He was victimized by his senior officers among other incidents that happened. I chose that as an example of religion-inspired laws in "secular" Israel.

I have seen a few funny ones in my time. Here's one.

"Ajanlekoko" literally " a dog that chases a wolf"

Is that so? then how do you explain the case of a foreign jehovah witness who as not allowed to marry her jewish husband cos she wasn't a follower of judaism. their court can prevent marriages if it contravenes their views of judaism. The Hasidic parties are still strong forces in the Likud Coalition.

I watched a show on CNN that was talking about the New Geek. You might be surprised.

Old geeks:  Stay in their rooms playing games all day and have bad social skills. Are usually dressed in a nerdy way

New geeks: Are very passionate about their hobbies and spend time, effort and money on the hobby.  Are not neccessarily nerdy but they are independent and not afraid to stand out in a crowd.  They are media sophisticates and read a lot: magazines, TV, blogs, discussion boards etc

Statistics(UK): 78% of them are married. As a group they are worth $11.8 billion. They are within the 18-44 age bracket.

So the question is this, are you a geek?

Hi. I am {}. Kodewrita is just a reference to my hobby. I would definitely want to know the names of sage, DE-KING, HNDHOLDER and Hidden-hunter

the first question is whether you love your husband? Second, is your job more important than your husband? Third, If your husband were in this predicament (assuming!) what would you expect him to do? Ponder this and then act on them.

Obviously I am only doing that to take the argument to the extreme. I of course agree that in a multiracial/multireligious environment , secularism is a safe bet. Turkey is 98% muslim but the army generals enforce secularism as propounded by the founder Kemal Ataturk but at the same time they don't allow vices like marijuana and drug use, homosexualism (in Islam its a vice) into their society all in the name of democracy. thats what we should be aiming for. Religious freedom and economic prosperity without destroying or eroding our social values all in the name of democracy. Ok, let me give you an extreme example, Lebanon according to someone on this site, allows sex with animals as long as its a female animal (eg goat, cow, dog). do we allow that all in the name of democracy?

Nigerians should strive for a country where both muslim and christian can live peacefully without losing our values to the flood of western culture.

Compare the number of unsolved bomb blasts and assasination with the performance of the largely unarmed British police . They caught 4 out of five culprits in the July 26 attempted bombing in 8 days.

@joftech i won't engage you in discussion because of one statement which points to blind unreasoning faith and also because you didnt

joftech:

@kodewrita, When you talk about the Bible, No church on earth can know the Bible more than the Catholic church, i won't want to go into the details here.

what is the logical basis for that statement? Who says god has to give a halfway place for anybody? The rich man was not allowed to go back to earth to atone for his sins but lazarus went straight to heaven. it says there is a huge gulf between heaven and hell and does not imply a halfway point? You talk about the church as the sole custodian of biblical truth? so tell me why they condoned the Al Aqsa massacre during the crusades ? why did they kill protestants simply because they did not agree with their views during The Reformation? Why did they collect money for indulgences so people could get into purgatory (that was what martin luther fought against)?

Get your facts right before saying anything. show me a verse that shows the basis for purgatory.

been absent from this post for a while.

objibb:
I was a mass server too.
Where do those pastor founder put their money............... Good talk

joftech:
I am a catholic and I will die a catholic. It’s the only church where I know the in and out of her working and am sure we don’t use any ungodly power; I was once a mass servant, there is no hidden thing. Most of these so called new generation churches are based on the principle of what the owner/founder can get. But the Catholic Church is quite different; fathers don’t have children/family so the incentive of them being corrupt is not there.

Money realized get plowed back into the community and to people that are suffering around the world, but where do other churches put their money?

interesting how both of you referred to the money angle. Let me inform you that the catholic church remains the richest church in the world and aside from a few organisations like the Jesuits and The Daughters Of The Holy Spirit, they have done less when compared to some churches like the Salvation Army. You are simply parroting what we are told every sunday in church by Rev. Frs anxious to maintain church populations. What shd you be concerned with? your money or your soul. If you are as catholic as you claim, answer the questions i wrote up there in the earlier posts.

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joftech:
Did it not infringe on the rights of citizen of those countries and state that are not in the mainstream religion.

That's very true. To avoid messing things up, SEPERATE![/quote]It doesn't. In Saudi, they don't force you to be a muslim. they only prevent their muslim citizens from drinking alcohol and they made them follow the injunctions of their jointly held religion.
Ask yourself why they haven't revolted. the ones that are revolting are asking for stricter laws while the govt favours the status quo or even relaxing some.

As Kazey said, it should left for nigerians to determine how big a role religion should play in their lives and govt.

i don't know where you did your research but i will tell you that my dad got one from zenith last week.

they call it 'kanryodo'. search google.

same in china where confucius wrote articles about the perfect bureaucrat. he even instituted civil exams

@sage then explain why spain is still stauchly catholic yet they have progressed in a comparable manner to other european countries? Greece too.

I agree nigeria is the most religious but i believe religious considerations affect us less where planning is concerned compared to ethnic considertions. the arabic script and the entrance of the country into the OIC was ethnically and not religiously motivated. Its a fact that most of the crises in this country that occured between Muslims and Xtians occured between Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani or between Ibo and Hausa. Most of the people concerned are unemployed. You don't see an employed muslim or christian in nigeria who has a future to look forward to, fighting . Our main problems are nepotism, embezzlement and institutional myopia.

If you know anything about buddhism and confucianism, you will find out they have more in common with communism or socialism than islam or the other eastern religions. both do not discuss the existence of a god, they only talk about the achievement of an ideal state HERE ON EARTH. so your belief that it doesn't control the japanese is false. They have an art of governing (similar to bushido "way of the warrior" and other buddhist concepts) and it is derived from buddhist bases mingled with western concepts.

joftech:
Am 100% in support of separation of religion and state. Most of the so called men of God are the major problem of this country.

Most politician rely on the gullibility of the masses in order to perpetrate their nefarious activities.

What do you expect when a governor is giving millions of state money to build a mosque and giving nothing to build churches or shrines. Since what is good for the goose is also good for the gander, why the discrimination, or what do you think will be going on in the mind of those that are not getting these largese from the govt. of the day.

Japan, China and most European countries have done away with the cohabitation of religion and state and they are reaping the benefits.

It's high time Nigeria follow suite.

Have anyone think about those quranic/arabic verses on the national currency and the logo of the Nigerian Army, what are they doing there. I think the meaning ought to have been translated to English which is our official language, that is a classical example of segregation and descrimnation since i as a person and millions of others don't know the meaning of what's written on what we are toiling for, day and night.

Nigeria need a serious rebirth, even if it's going to be through caesarian section.

@joftech the use of arabic script on our currency and logos is a recognition of the fact that some people are literate in arabic but not in English (its a way of ensuring they are not left out.). apart from that the mottos are clearly written elsewhere. you don't need to know what it means, its already boldly written "N10 ".
As to the issue of japan or china doing away with religion, let me tell you that the largest religion after taoism in china is Islam and let me tell you that Confucianism which is a religion that deals with good manners is still seen in the way the chinese think and these customs are still kept.

This is what i believe "The state can make any law it wants as long as it does not contravene the religious beliefs of the citizens". e.g making it compulsory to marry two wives (so as to increase the population) in a Christian country or allowing homosexualism in a country like Iran. I believe religion should guide but not control. All Christian laws can be reduced to two : Love of God , Love of man. I believe all laws are geared towards this. so the issue of separating religion from the state is a non-starter.

Don't tell me all our problems are a result of religion. what would you say about Ghana or South Africa where almost everyone is a Xtian. They are growing faster than Nigeria.


What we should campaign against is religious and ethnic intolerance. we should also try to reform our institutions.

starting a business?

1. have a very good idea of what you want. you must be able to describe it in a few short sentences.

2.know your target demographic (what section of the market you are targeting, how many, and any other special characteristics)
3. determine how much capital you need.
4. write a business plan and preferably include analysis of how long it would take you or your investors (or both) to break even.

joftech:
"But that should not be an excuse to run away from education, or even deny yourself the comfort of life." - kazey (m)

Kazey, is like you are getting me wrong, am not saying education is not good, am talking about education in Nigerian parlance, and if you are in Nigeria today you should know what am talking about.

Of what use is a degree holder in computer science that can't code a functional simple program.

@joftech Read any newspaper ad or read any vacancy ads relating to comp. sci., you will find out that they ask for B.Sc in any field not neccessarily comp sci (though that wud be an advantage). HND is even preferable to no cert. pls don't miss out because of what obtains outside the country. the fact that someone climbed everest barehanded doesn't mean you can climb Kilmanjaro too. A B.sc also has societal value. DON'T MISS OUT.

is there any law that says you can't start small later focus on making more money later. Anyway, my dad invests in stocks but he focuses on safe stocks like Zenith, GTB, Nigerian Breweries,Cadbury etc. But he doesn't invest all his money in stocks and i don't think you should too. I read something in a book about forming an investment club with friends. that way you share the gains and the risk too.

but there are other ways like getting an sme loan and starting a biz. check the dailies, there is a company called Nomex that specialises in doing such though you have to provide one third of what you are borrowing as collateral.

I don't mind it if moslems propound laws motivated by religion as long as it is put to a referendum and not foisted on every body (or possibly the guys we elected to the national assembly will have to vote on that.). Nigeria being a democracy, any unfavourable law put to a referendum should fail. Example: If a law was made banning the drinking of alcohol, i won't mind because personally i rarely drink alcohol however i wouldn't like it if it is foisted on us. The important thing is that any law should recognise and respect civil liberties.

For example the laws in the united states and most countries were initially motivated by the ten commandments. the arab states are still governed by a modernised form of sharia which has greater respect for human rights. the only difference between them and the West is in the severity of punishment. And they have some of the lowest urban crime rates (In egypt and Saudi you can leave your car and walk away with the engine running and still find it untouched.)

Why do men like smart women?

....Opposites attract.

How do men define a "50/50" relationship?

.....We cook -- they eat; we clean -- they dirty; we iron -- they wrinkle.

How do you get a man to stop biting his nails?

.....Make him wear shoes.

What did God say after creating man?

.....I can do so much better.

What's the smartest thing a man can say?

....."My wife says..."

Why are all dumb blonde jokes one-liners?

.....So men can understand them.

Why do female black widow spiders kill the males after mating?

.....To stop the snoring before it starts.

Why do men need instant replay on TV sports?

.....Because after 30 seconds they forget what happened.

Why does it take 100 million sperm to fertilize one egg?

.....Because none of them will stop to ask for directions.

Why is psychoanalysis a lot quicker for men than for women?

.....When it's time to go back to his childhood, he's already there.

Do you know the anaconda is the fastest reptile living? Do you know the most successful predators are wild dogs? they are successful in 98 out of 100 attempts because they attack in groups of 40 to 50 wild dogs.

[quote author=Bibi-2 link=topic=877.msg14850#msg14850 date=1121785706]In a single religion state, it is hard to separate religion from Governance. this is the big problem in the Middle East which the west can't comprehend. On the Contrary, for secular states, Religion should be excluded from Governance, otherwise you have the problems like in Nigeria and India where everyone thinks their religion is supreme.
However, the calmour for religion in Governance is due to the decay in the democratic process whereby our values for life and dignity is been traded for a democtratic treatment of issues like Gay, Lesbianism, Capital punishment, etc. Most religions are soundly against this and when democraZy is being bent to accomodate these tabboos as a sociental norm , with rights - its a big slap on religious beliefs. This explains why the Middle East would not want the Western type of democrazy. its easier in Asia as the mostly don't belief in anything, anyway.[/quote]@bibi the problem in nigeria is not religious, it is ethnic. the religious violence we had was ethnically motivated so that is not a point.[quote author=DE-KING link=topic=877.msg15215#msg15215 date=1121867189]My opinion on this is that it's not right to base the law governing people of diverse religious background on religion. If you want to do htat, which religion will they adopt. Nobody will ever accept that his religion is inferior to any other one.

Religion is a very sensitive thing so it should be left out of the law.

God has created man as morality beings so we can make our laws based on this morality.[/quote]@DE-KING morality is relative. conscience can be dulled. what you find insluting is acceptable to others. Religions are the best ways of miantaining social values. As long as people remain religious and not hopelessly materialistic as in the West, religion must and will always play a role in social life.
All experiments aimed at removing religion from normal life have failed. Usually they are characterised by the replacement of one religion by a less spiritual one e.g christianity replaced by communism(worship of the state) --Russia. Islam by materialism(Iraq).

What we should be campaigning for is religious freedom not the absence of religion in social life.

U all talk about separating religion from state and as an example you cite east asian countries as non-religious. Let me give you an example of a religious state that is prospering very well, ISREAL. Judaism plays a very active role in daily life and in government. Yet they prosper. their per capita income is around $20,000. that tells you that the crap about separating religion from state is bullshit.what matters is whether the state takes an active role in developing its own people.
Religion is also about social values. In nigeria, most people either claim to be Christians or Muslims. The other religions have a very low population (barely up to ten thousand adherents) excluding the animists who still manage(like the Druse in Isreal and Turkey) to hide under the cloak of muslim or christian. As religion can be said to be a way of life, it would be utter folly to remove it from social life because we want to copy the scientific atheism of the West.
Contrary to what you have been told by earlier posts. China is communist in name but Taoist and Confucist in outlook. Shinto is still the state religion of Japan. Buddhism still plays a role in the Koreas, Singapore and others. Russia gives the Russian Orthodox church predominance over other churches. The same in britain with the anglican church.

Its true that we operate a dictatorial democracy but it would be naive to expect us to move straight from a militocracy to a civilian environment. the transition will be fraught with danger of course. i believe in spite of all the noise we make, we will never break up. why? because some regions have become so dependent on others that they cannot bear to allow them to leave that easily e.g (the three northern regions) and almost all the major companies are in the Lagos-Ogun-Oyo area and as such the merchant-politicians or political contractors will not allow that to happen.

Sometimes a well-intentioned dictatorship can be better than a graft-ridden democracy. example: saddam rebuilt iraq witihin 1000 days of his defeat in kuwait in 1991

its not the certificate or course that matters but what you make of it. Of course in our society the certificates have an inherent social value (thats why mothers-in-law will always discriminate against SSCE holders even if they speak english like britons)

yes, we all thank God and Blair for the debt relief but i fear OBJ would try to use this as an excuse to extend his reign beyond 2007

that is a scary thought. Double betrayal. The longer it has been going on, the more painful it is. I hope you are not really in that predicament cos if you are its a pretty dangerous situation. That situation is called a love triangle and most of them end in disaster. My advice to you is to end the relationship. She obviously doesn't love you anymore if she ever did.

Steroids? Thanks but no thanks. I plan to have kids and steroids will not help that. As for junk food or carbs well that means the morsel foods again (ooowwww )

I saw an advert for Glo Direct, and I want to know more about the service. I would like to know how fast it is and whether it is advisable to buy the GPRS modem or use the normal Glo GPRS service.