₦airaland Forum

nitigriti:
These are sentimental arguments.
1. What have they provided for ehailing drivers to warrant that 110k per car?

Why not go and drive in Oyo State? Or Port Harcourt? Or Abuja? There is a reason we all prefer to hustle in Lagos rather than in all these other cities in Nigeria - the economic environment thrives!

There, there is your answer. Lagos State government has provided e-hailing driver's with a thriving economic environment that makes it possible for a car on e-hailing to earn (net) #2.5 million every year after expenses! Lagos State government wants #110,000 of that money just once in your lifetime!

2. Driver-partners are not the operators rather they are tools for operation of uber/bolt’s technology. If any operators permit is to be paid, it should be done by the ehailing companies.

Again, you miss the logic here. Driver-partners are residents of the state and will be taxed as such. The e-hailing companies' operators permits are one thing, e-hailing cars operational permits are another.

For example, the company I work for pays Corporate Income Tax, while I pay PAYE tax.

3. Hackney permit is a license that is required by commercial operators of Vehicles, including other non-commercial vehicles that are into haulage of people or goods like buses, taxis.

If you take people from one place to the other in the state for a fee, you will need a Hackney permit. That is the law.

Or are we lawless?

4. I'm happy we both agree LASDRI is sensible.
5. Do red plate numbers equal extortion? Do you think those touts collecting Union fees at bus stops are extorting? Have they ever come to your private car to ask #10 from you?

6. The things you listed that the govt provides is basic for it’s citizens aint nothing special.

Security of lives and properties is basic and nothing special? Good roads (to a certain extent) is basic and nothing special? Economic opportunity is basic and nothing special?

7. The state has seen a boost in economic activities since ehailing came. The ease of movement is second to none. Also the upsurge in road worthiness certificate and driver’s license plus vehicle registration is a strong indicator of that fact. Lagos state should not be greedy.

You have your facts wrong. By the time Babatunde Fashola was rounding off his tenure, Lagos State was already the 5th largest economy on the African continent - if it were to be regarded as a country on its own.
(Cite: John M. O. Ekundayo (2013). Out of Africa: Fashola: Reinventing Servant Leadership to Engender Nigeria's Transformation. AuthorHouse. p. 135. ISBN 9781481790406). This was in 2013 and Lagos State had a GDP of $91 billion then.

E-hailing companies came in because Lagos State was (and still is) a thriving city!

8. How can we call LASG greedy in this case? As e-hailing operators, do we quote the lowest price point or the highest price point possible when we negotiate with our clients for off-line trips? Are we being greedy then?

9. A one-time license payment of #110,000 is chicken change to an annual rental income of #2,500,000.

I said a boost in economic activities i.e it increased commercial activities. Ask the boys that are into spare-parts at ladipo and they’ll tell you uber/bolt is the best thing since slice bread.

How dare you call security, good roads et al special? In a sane economy, it’s not negotiable.

Driver-partners are residents and they pay tax through the TIN supplied to uber and through purchase of goods and services i.e VAT

One would think you’re vying for office and trying to use this as a manifesto the way you going about it. Thank God say no be you be one of those ogas sha.

Tyche:
Your position and mine fits the context

In between comes after the thing been referred to. It does not come before.

[quote author=Tyche post=86707490][/quote]Did you see the context in which it was used?

nitigriti:
Still on this hackney permit and LASDRI issue.

First, we need to understand that it is Lagos State government's duty to tax citizens living and earning in the state; as well as businesses in the state.

Second, no ride-sharing platform has an operational license from Lagos State yet. Yes, they are incorporated entities, but they still need a "permit" in the form of a license to do what they do in Lagos.

Third, ride-sharing companies are being economical with the truth when they claim to be technology companies and not transportation companies. It's a stupid argument I don't even need to stress myself to beat down. Just look at what has happened to Uber in London.

Four, Lagos State government wants Uber and Bolt and their likes to obtain an operational license. It is Lagos State government's right; after all, the government provides the roads, the security, LASTMA (to clear traffic on the roads) and the "enabling" or "thriving" or "commercial" environment to make e-hailing happen.

Five, Lagos State government wants every car on e-hailing to also have an operational license as well as Hackney permit. It is the state government's right, after all, it arms the Police that secures lives and properties on the streets and at home when we sleep.

Six, e-hailing companies operational licenses and that of individual cars on the platforms are two different kinds of licenses.

Seven, no matter how long we keep running from these hard facts, they are the truth; and will continue to stare us in our faces.

Eight, so what do we do?
Car owners - get the operational license for your vehicle. It's only #110,000=00 for life! For a vehicle that will bring you rentals of about #1.25 million every year, it is chicken change.

Driver's - get the Hackney permit for the vehicles you drive. It's only #3,000 every year. And while you are at it, get your LASDRI card too; it's only #2,000 every year.

This is the right thing to do to make everywhere "soft" for both car owner and driver.

A few words are enough for the wise.

Operators permit of 110k for what? What have they provided for ehailing drivers to warrant that 110k per car?

Driver-partners are not the operators rather they are tools for operation of uber/bolt’s technology. If any operators permit is to be paid, it should be done by the ehailing companies.

If they want hackney permit, they should provide designated parks so people on the platform know they are fully commercial otherwise it’s just pure extortion.

The hackney permit destroys the purpose of ehailing. The only sensible one is the lasdri. Once your plate number is red, you’ve opened yourself up to all manner of extortion from local govt touts asking for stickers etc thinking it’s a company vehicle.

The things you listed that the govt provides is basic for it’s citizens aint nothing special besides every citizen pays tax directly or indirectly.

The state has seen a boost in economic activities since ehailing came. The ease of movement is second to none. Also the upsurge in road worthiness certificate and driver’s license plus vehicle registration is a strong indicator of that fact. Lagos state should not be greedy.


PS: Don’t ever call 110k chicken change.

chillex8

I be wan buzz you again say Christmas don come.

northbird:
You were lucky.

In BTW. How were you able to get away from them?
Were you at the front end of the traffic? Cos deir usual style is to block u inside traffic.

But I thot dy said all enforcement shd b suspended. Or DT one na audio things too?

I just think LASG just wants to bring a new competitor and they feel the two giants in the operating space mite stifle their new born baby

All I know is If they buy brand new cars to do their usual Eko taxi racket. They woukd b in for a rude shock.

Cos the traditional Lagos taxi driver won't b comfortable with the current pricing system and the long hours associated wt d job

Please Stop using IN BTW just use BTW.

So many people mistake it for In Between thinking the BTW means BETWEEN.

BTW is an acronym for By The Way.


Case study:
IN BTW, How were you able to get away from them?

In Between, How were you able to get away from them?

Doesn't sound tek

BTW, How were you able to get away from them?

By The Way, How were you able to get away from them?

Na learn all of us dey learn edaku ema binu.

ncnerio:
Uber get limit now o! No more assuming na all money Dem dey pay back. Yesterday Val day surge everywhere I still dey try back track a lady wey 5700 transfer never enter till now. Complain to Uber them say driver partner is responsible for making sure payment are made my brain reset. Na to backtrack that lady now cos her app phone no dey work from the onset.

Uber does not care about bank transfers as mode of payment. They will reimburse you if the rider does not pay at all or pays part.

What they mean in essesce is to confirm bank transfers before moving on.......or as usual tender the number to the court for further disciplinary actions.

Chuwaa:
You mean Primero?

That's Fola Tinubu, a nephew to Bola Tinubu

No. That news is stale as ambode is no longer the governor.

The govt should leave its citizens alone and go for the tech companies. This country is full of shiit.

100k and 30k for what exactly? VIO's DG is a total failure. He is not smart and innovative hence they lack funding. Sanwo olu apparently gave him an 'opportunity' to right his wrongs and the monkey wants to go all out.

The government wants 100k yet they provide nothing for the drivers other than untold hardship with traffic, tout harassment, airport lockdown etc. Uber drivers dont have designated parks/areas and are exploited at every opportunity yet they want hackney permit and body tag.

Those guys want to put barcode on sombori's body! lol

Guys we have to resist this extortion by all means. How much do they think drivers make to pay 100k per car and subsequently 30k for renewal. Funny how the same VIO that check for road worthiness push their unworthy and rickety cars every time!

Chuwaa:
Na WA o, see extract from the link. They just want another Primero to monopolize e-hail services if Uber and Bolt decides to bolt

Anofiu Elegushi, Special Adviser to Governor Akinwunmi Ambode, said Uber drivers were required to pay N100,000 per car for a franchise license, and an annual renewal fee of N30,000 per car.

He said the company owed the state government about N600 million for not properly registering its business.

“We have started clamping down on the vehicles that operate under the Uber app without registration,” Mr. Elegushi had told CNNMoney last September.

The Lagos State House of Assembly in 2015 passed the Road Traffic Regulations on Taxi Operations in Lagos State to regulate commercial transportation in the state. The regulations stipulate that in addition to meeting the provisions of Section 40 of the Road Traffic Law, all taxi operators must register their details with the Ministry of Transportation and be issued with a licence. Drivers must also have a third party insurance; hackney permit; and a vehicle not older than 12 years at the time of registration.

Special Adviser to Ambode?

Wow so now the VIO is using the ban as an avenue to oppress drivers lol because they know drivers are cashing out on the ban. My Naija people which way?

donfortune48:
Make una go ABJ see life nah.
Even danfo no dey ABJ. Yet, moving around is pretty easy and cheap.

Abuja's population is not up to Alimosho LG.

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EaRtHgUy:
On this Okada and Keke ban issue, a driver told me yesterday that these Keke and Okada operators are planning on doing a riot on the affected LGAs on the 1st of February. Any car they think Is an Uber or Taxify car could be harmed or destroyed. Guys please how reliable is this info. Have anyone here heard anything as such?

They don't even have sense if they plan on doing this. The violence will aggravate the govt.

Whatever happened to peaceful protests while seeking audience with the governor eh.

The ban is insensitive and foolish. How will people doing short distance move around?

Granted, the kekes and bikes are a nuisance but you don't just change policy without creating alternatives.

Na wahala them dey find. Lagos is going to bleed the coming days.

Avoid Ikorodu road by all means.

Babadee1900:
I am not going ahead with the offer. He said the guy that was picking him before had the car collected from in December as he wasn't remitting money to the owner even after he helped him pay twice.

I wonder why.

The fact you even consideted it means you're a biggie man. Boss how far now?

tojahh:
Hahaha Jaydee... Thank God for the news. You beat me to it.

Guys I just resumed in a mainstream oil and gas today. Never wanted to break the news till I put pen to paper after proper documentations and assessments.

It actually came on 31st of December as I was sleeping my way out at Almiraty phase 1

Good pay
Good working environment.
Good structure.
Nice position

Viewing nairaland from my desk

Wonderful! Greater heights baba. May favor locate the expectants in this thread and beyond. Amen. Soar baba.

mrjaydee:
Morning my fellow drivers.. I'm on my way to resume in a blue chip firm. The salary is humongous and working condition is almost perfect.

I will still do my taxifire/uber work weekends if I get strength.

I got this job through a rider! I use this testimony to pray for others looking for jobs may God answer your prayers speedily.

I for snap and send here but I don't know the people I don offend make dem no see me for road come beat me.

It is well.

Congratulations brotherly.

I take God beg you, no go beat your annoying colleague(s) o.

Greater heights baba.

You guys have successfully divided this thread into two factions. The no-nonsense guys that don't tolerate shii and fling any thing from their cars, order riders out and the empathetic souls giving the riders benefit of the doubt.

I'm not one to judge but just do what your gut tells you. We all have our on and off days in life so act accordingly. If a rider brings hot, by all means give hot but just use sense. No be everything be gra gra.

Guys please let's not derail the intent of this thread and stick to it's original purpose.

We are a family. For those asking for saka, the way you saka a rider would be the way God or whatever you serve will saka blessings away from you. Happy Sunday guys.

Y1nka:
An eye for an eye will make the whole world go blind... I feel sad reading this bro! I could be a victim, forget my certificate in your car, and despite being a driver like you and never offending you, you’ll throw it away because of three bad experience you had.

Izzuo please rethink it, there’s a huge difference between good riddance to bad rubbish, and wickedness

He was being sarcastic.

Felicity001:
Account has been blocked permanently.

Can one open another account with Uber maybe after they block the first account? Because I know it’s just email address they identify and then bank account which they pay to

Uber should have the say whether they would allow him on the platform again or not. Let him go there to see their reps with a better phone in hand.

Felicity001:
My ogas in the house pls let’s look into this matter or isn’t it important to discuss?

They already told him the issue. He should get a better phone. The iphone 5 is not as techy as before.

mayorhy:
This thread is just filled with selfish, narcissistic, insensitive money mongers. I mean even though 2.9 surge is what the market is and is really not your fault but couldn't you at least show empathy? For a trip of 2900 someone ended up paying 8700 because of low supply of cars at that moment is that not heart breaking? Paying 300% of the cost of a service ?You yourself can you pay that without grudge? She felt like crying and that gladdens your heart? And to top it off you gave someone that just paid you 8700 for a trip of N2900 one star because you FELT she was going to give you one star! All we care for is about money in this country that we have forgotten how to be human.

Guy shut your mouth. You're condemning the same very thing you are. The uber rider's app does not have PG so most riders know what they are getting into.

Did you bother to show empathy towards the driver? He/she is out there servicing customers in this festive period that is better spent with loved ones and you are ranting.

BTW, what are you doing on a thread filled with narcissistic, selfish and insensitive money mongers? Are you trying to be one?

May this year be good to us!

Happy NEW YEAR!

realokopi:
A lady posted here some days ago about looking for a boyfriend. I decided to reach out at least let me interact with her and see what's up. Not like am actually looking for a girlfriend.
I PM her and she gave me her number. I checked her whatsapp dp and to be honest she wasn't that good looking. I ignored that and decided to chat her up. Only for her to start forming like she's something oo. I was like what the f*ck!!!! Somebody wey dey look for boyfriend go come dey form And not that she's beautiful sef oo. I as a man is 10,000 times more good looking than her.
Now I understand why most girls end up frustrated at the long run. Some of them clearly need help but would start misbehaving when someone decides to rescue them.
This one just surprise me gon

F.cukboy move bro. That's a dic.k ass move bro. Why did you PM her if you were not looking for a girlfriend?

What's the meaning of rescuing them? From what? Lol guy you dey fuc.k up.

Guy calm down; respect the ladies. Yea I know a lot of them don't deserve it but don't go around acting a fool nigg.a

Happy New Year!

mrjaydee:
Fast ke for Lagos roads? Where u dey fast dey go?

Those "Big daddy" Camry boys whey be say na only thier small heads you go dey see for sterring no go like this news.

Sometimes you go just wan fire down.

timilehing:
Congratulations Bro
It is good to look for alternative ways as data business is not as rosy as before. I joined the train in August

Did you buy wine for the elders?

mrjaydee:
Win for the Coro boys.

Toyota Corrolla is nobody's mate

The car strong no be small. Just not fast.

Wow 37 billion just for renovations while graduates are finishing nysc jobless. Why are people so wicked and selfish?

https://www.nairaland.com/5604763/toyota-corolla-emerges-nigerias-car

I wonder why

chillex8:
Well, am guilty as charged.
I don't accept any request less than 2.0X when am in a sojified area.

Can't be seeing 3.2X all over me and am accepting 1.2X surge.

Kolewerk

Baba that’s not greed. It’s business acumen