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Mickael2:
so you will ignore the fact that he was bad for more than 70% of the game? Do you think that such comebacks happen everyday? Let's look at it critically, he was poor for like 60-70 mins out of 90, that means he was poor

Icon4s:
Ok you said so.

That is as far as debating it with you is concerned bc that does not stop me from airing my view about it with someone else. Except you want us to stop all discussions, close this thread and go our ways.

Icon4s:
Can PSG lose 6-0 to a team from Cyprus or Albania,?

The players u are referring to as playing in Bosnia, Cyprus or division are Musa Mohammed, Shehu Abdullahi and Dele Alampasu right?

Firstly these are seasoned former youth internationals that we already know their capabilities.

Musa was captain at U17 and U20. Winning d golden boot award at the AYC. Though i do not consider him as matured enough to be in the starting 11 but he is at least good enough to be in that 25man squad.

Shehu Abdullahi played U20 under John Obu. He was part of the Keshi's 2014 CHAN team, he played under Oliseh, and also the Siasia's Egypt double header.

He even performed very well at Rio Olympics. Shehu is a kind of player that will always make the team sheet bc he is a utility player. He plays DMF, CMF and RB all very comfortably well.

For Shehu to leave the NPFL to Cyprus speaks a lot abt our local league. Shehu IMO is better than the league he finds himself playing. He is even nominated as part of the team of the season in Cyprus.

As for Dele Alampasu. He is not on this list so where does division3 come in here now?
Or tell me which player(s) from that Rohr's list that players division3 football.

I dnt base my arguments on sentiments but objectivity and facts.

U mentioned today that u dnt watch the NPFL so you are in no way in a position to advice Rohr or anybody on that.

You said Rohr should look inwards,

who told u he and his crew have not been watching the league?

If they found no player worthy would you force it upon them to pick any player?

Besides is Ikechukwu Ezenwa not a Homebased player anymore?

Was there not a time when Enyeama was the only home based player in the Super Eagles?

joseph1013:
I have said it before that these people shouting MLS this, MLS that cannot boast that come what may the Super Eagles will beat Columbia, Uruguay, Chile, or USA. In the FIFA ranking, USA is 30th, Uruguay is 9th, Columbia is 7th, Chile is 4th. Nigeria is 41 o. Some of the players of these teams play in the MLS, Fernando Adi is bossing them week in week out. Even Kaka was invited to the Brazilian team while playing in MLS.

We have players from Cameroun, Ivory Coast, and Mexico playing in the MLS.

So what's the excuse for not inviting Adi when he is regularly showing his quality in the league. It's not just the goals, it's the ways he scores them. Is MLS not better than Cyprus league? What about Bosnia?

According to a 2016 ranking, here are the top 10 leagues in the world:

1 Spanish La Liga 48
2 Premier League 47
3 Bundesliga 42
4 Italian Serie A 37
5 Portuguese Liga 35
6 French Ligue 1 31
7 Dutch Eredivisie 27
8 Argentine League 21
9 Brazilian Serie A 20
10 USA MLS 20


Source: http://www.totalsportek.com/football/ranking-best-league-in-the-world/

I repeat: What's the excuse? Why not invite him to camp and let him compete. Glad the likes of Siasia and Oliseh are out of the settings with their lies that he cannot undertake rigorous workouts.

tbaba1234:
If we do not invite Musa or Shehu, there are several other options outside Nigeria that the league players have to compete with. Esiti, Mikel Agu for DM.. Brian Idowu/ Odubanjo right back

tbaba1234:
How many Nigerian players have ended up in Malta or Cyprus or even Bosnia?

tbaba1234:
PSG lost to Barca, arguably the best team in the world.

Rivers United got pummeled by a team from Sudan.

Is the Nigerian league better than the league in Cyprus or Bosnia? Is it not the same obscure leagues where many top players in the Nigerian league end up?

We have talents in the league but let us be honest, if they stay in the league too long, they lose it. The best Nigerian players do not stay in the league.

ChrisKels:
We shouldn't call a guy from Bosnia but u were sad that olisadebe was overlooked while he was playing in an obscure league (the Polish league).

Icon4s:
And they expect Rohr to create slots for them in the Super Eagles. Mtcheew.

forgiveness:
@bolded is still what I can't fathom but I no agree make we dash home based quota ooo.

We can invite the very good ones but not at the detriment of the better ones in Europe.

Icon4s:
I only highlighted the poor quality of pitches to show my tenacity to watch d games despite it nt being TV friendly.

Nobody is disputing the fact that the local league has produced numerous great players in the past.

If u have known me well enough u'll know i am nt d type that will rubbish the local league.

My argument spans from the look of things now, presently in 2017 and not in the 90s, 2002 or 2013. Look at the present set up of the Super Eagles do you think any player(s) from d league can offer some thing superior?

That is why i first asked if u follow the league. And went ahead to ask u to name credible home based players and asked which foreign players to drop.

U have answered that u dnt watch the NPFL. So it means u dnt know anything abt d current state of the players in the league.

Icon4s:
Look, I follow the NPFL to a large extent.
In most cases i always endure the poor quality of the pitch and pictures.

I mostly do nt watch the games live bc of the EPL games bt i watch them later during my leisure times.

I even watched the replay of Enyimba vs MFM game last night enduring the look of that patchy UJ Essuene stadium pitch.

So i know what i am talking about. Any player that must wear the Super Eagles jersey must deserve it.

Taking abt Obinna Nwobodo we never said he was good for d Super Eagles but a good prospect.

Humility017:
Sir...I get your point, but what do u say of players who are looking for any slight opportunity to whisk to obscure leagues in Europe and north Africa leagues...few are determined like etebor who refused the north Africa deals

Icon4s:
Do u follow the NPFL.?

Suggest home based players Rohr should have invited and name d foreign based he should drop in their places. O ya.

Humility017:
the truth is even the home based players will not picked on merit...
still remember the LMC cried out during our first CHAN outing... lamenting that the players picked by keshi were not the league's best...
how could u explain oliseh omission of igbinoba of nasarawa united during the last CHAN despite his attacking prowess from the midfield position

abeg they should let the coach do his Job

Icon4s:
I am whole heartedly with Rohr's team selection.

The best and most promising talents and professional players are outside this country.

Celestine Babayaro that was making comment the other day, how many home-based players played along with him during his hey days in the late 90s?

We have gone past that time where Keshi would be reserving 5-7 slots for home-based players!

Players should be invited based on merit. If our best 25 players are based in Europe so be it.

The home based eagles had a chance to impress at CHAN last year but they showed they lacked substance. Another CHAN qualifiers will commence soon. Let Rohr use that to assess the players.

No room for mediocrity. We need the best devoid of allotments and allocations.

maidaboi:
bros pls stop being bias.let me ask you if those players started their carreer in Nigeria do you think they will make it to the top? Being in England gives them the advantage not their talents

tbaba1234:
Would Zidane have reached the top of world football if he opted to play for Algeria instead of France?

TheGoodJoe:

Reports in Spain suggest Deniz Aytekin may be removed from Champions League duty after making controversial calls in a 6-1 thriller at Camp Nou

The man at the centre of Barcelona’s remarkable comeback against Paris Saint-Germain, Deniz Aytekin, may have taken charge of his last Champions League game this season, according to Marca.

The German referee made a controversial late call at Camp Nou on Wednesday which allowed Barca to complete their stunning 6-1 fightback.

http://m.goal.com/s/en-us/news/55/main/2017/03/11/33518362/barcelona-vs-psg-referee-facing-uefa-demotion?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fm%3Fq%3Dreferee%2Bmarca%2Bbarcelona%2Bpsg


As for me, those two penalty calls were too wrong and I do not blame anyone who accuses the referee of premeditated bias.

do4luv14:
i got no explaining to give
cos am very sure you watched the match

do4luv14:
plz don't mix it up, MONACO is deserving of dis winning,
nt barca who need the referee and if i might say the stupidity of PSG players,


so pls don't mix it thankz

do4luv14:
lolzzz, now who Ws the comedian You ofcos, you know y
i mention comfort zone and you don't care to ask hw i mean, you gon on listing fact like am new to it or football,

get it dude, its nt only MESSI , but some other hreats as well who to me don't deserve to b call greats cos they are all one man riot, till enternity,
that's what i mean by comfort zone,

Mickael2:
And I take it that you are a comedian, probably I go die in disguise because when I read your comment I nearly choked on the sparg I was eating.

Which one is comfort zone? So Champions league is his comfort zone too? Because he is the second highest goalscorer in the champions league too. So Argentina is also his comfort zone, he is the highest goalscorer for Argentina, so that means he has 3 comfort zones what else do you want?

Again, next time watch football from a tactical angle and you will understand that a team changing a coach is identical to a player changing a club, because the new coach comes in with new tactics etc etc, Messi has played under a counter-attacking coach, he has played under....wait, why am I even replying you? Sorry

TheGoodJoe:
I doubt the problem came from Egwueke's performance but the fact he had an unfit Omeruo to cope with. I think the problem came from forcing Omeruo back to the side. Note, I also pointed out about Egwueke's performance after the two goals, not before. He performed well and kept us in the game after we went on an all out attack.

TheGoodJoe:
Players like Egwueke, Uzoenyi, Mba and Obaobona might not have left the Shores of this country if not Keshi's faith in the home based players. Egwueke's performance against South Africa when we went two goals down was amazing. He was virtually the only one in defence.

I have repeatedly said that the challenges Africans face in Europe makes it difficult for accelerated growth. So, judging players by their clubs is not an ideal situation to judge their talents.

TheGoodJoe:
Players like Egwueke, Uzoenyi, Mba and Obaobona might not have left the Shores of this country if not Keshi's faith in the home [size=8pt][/size]based players. Egwueke's performance against South Africa when we went two goals down was amazing. He was virtually the only one in defence.

I have repeatedly said that the challenges Africans face in Europe makes it difficult for accelerated growth. So, judging players by their clubs is not an ideal situation to judge their talents.

TheGoodJoe:
Players like Egwueke, Uzoenyi, Mba and Obaobona might not have left the Shores of this country if not Keshi's faith in the home based players. Egwueke's performance against South Africa when we went two goals down was amazing. He was virtually the only one in defence.

I have repeatedly said that the challenges Africans face in Europe makes it difficult for accelerated growth. So, judging players by their clubs is not an ideal situation to judge their talents.

TapDance:
What match was that and who were the top midfielders.


Funny logic so we are using one match to judge a players quality, Mikel has consistently shown over his career he's nothing but a dumb ox, leave it at that.

Joebie:
We need a complete number 9.. meaning
1. can take on any defender.
2. can convert from slightest chances (poacher).
3. can score from difficult positions (can create goals out of nothing)
At the moment I don't see any Nigerian player that can consistently do the above.

For now I think we can make do of a poacher, until we find that Ideal striker.
Let me add that I see great potential in Success/Iheanacho partnership. Watch U17 Nigeria vs Mexico group game

Success can muscle defenders and can create chances with ease... Iheanacho can finish

Icon4s:
The talk was about he being the 'Goals King' we have been waiting for.

Do you sincerely think Kayode has what it takes to fit that description?

Kayode is not heights above the other strikers we currently have so pls bear with me if I am not expecting anything exceptional from him.

Icon4s:
I know Olanrewaju Kayode so very well. I saw him play U17 in 2009, U20 in 2011 and U20 again in 2013.
I saw him play CAF Champions league with ASEC mimosa of Abidjan in 2010/2011. I followed him when he went to FC Luzern of Switzerland in 2012. He came back to play in the NPL before heading for Isreal in 2013. He is currently in FK Austria Vien, since 2015.

He is a good player, talented no doubt and also hard working but I'll say not exceptional thus far. His career progress has been back and forth a kind of.

He is 24yrs old but I cannot classify him with the likes of Martins, Yakubu and Utaka when they were same age.

I see Kayode as a good inclusion to the squad but I sincerely dnt think he will likely be our goals king. I hope he proves me wrong.

zicky:
guy God bless you real good, absolute brilliant writeup, then it marvel me why a player like Olagoke(have forgotten his name) played left full back for enyimba then was nt called to the super eagles, oyekachi okonkwo was another brilliant midfielder, his combination with Muri still remain the best midfield combo in the npfl till date IMO.