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Joebie:
1. Rashidi Yekini
2. Austin Okocha
3. Emmanuel Amuneke
4. Daniel Amokachi
5. Sunday Oliseh
6. Taribo West
7. Finidi George
8. Samson Siasia
9. Mutiu Adepoju
10. Julius Aghahowa

Whao class of 94 dominated your list.

Joebie:
And not Dream Team, age-grade or Club performances?

Yes only Super Eagle performances

Joebie:
As long as we have people who can educate us on the previous eras. I personally, wont have much to say for the reason I stated earlier.

Ok start from US 94,d top 10 to wear green and white jersey for Super Eagle,strictly on Super Eagle.

Joebie:
lol.. there should never be fuss really.. what i dislike about threads is when people start resorting to personal attacks. our status in life is insignificant here. People who are really something in life don't reveal it in threads like this, unless they are suffering from low self esteem.
Let's respect ourselves that we would never have to agree. state your opinion, back it up however you can and leave it at that.. at the end of the day, we still learn from each other.

U really get my point,personally am here to learn and tap information coz info is d secret of Life and if u don't have it is a big issue.

Joebie:
From the USA '94 era, I agree. I am not old enough to really talk more about the guys before the said era
Can we stretch it to top 10? modify pls

Yes top 10 good idea but w need to include d 80s or what do u think coz they won our first Afcon with great players like Odegbami,Chukwu

Mickael2:
Hang on, either theSuperNerd or another person is about to attack you for not including Mikel Obi

STOP IT MY GUY

The guy came into d thread today with style and received 3 thumb ups instantly without any fuss.

Oh Mikel Obi top 3?Pls we are having peace here now,yesterday was tough and thank God guys are now talking football not even arguing which is good for d thread.

MayElEvEn:
I'm dedicating my first post on NL to the gurus here, especially sir goodjoe, icon4, superdupernerd, safari girl, Bascovanvelli, sir kog5, sir goldfish and other notable pundits.
I have been following this thread since its inception and I must confess you guys rock.


For my Top 3 greatest players in green white green, they are

KANU

Okocha

Rashidi Yekini

The top 3 greatest players in green and white,well great names Okocha,Yekini and Kanu but they are debatable if we go back to d 80s where we have Chairman Christian Chukwu,mathematical Patrick Segun Odegbami,Muda Lawal,Adokiye Amiesemeka or what do u think

MayElEvEn:
I'm dedicating my first post on NL to the gurus here, especially sir goodjoe, icon4, superdupernerd, safari girl, Bascovanvelli, sir kog5, sir goldfish and other notable pundits.
I have been following this thread since its inception and I must confess you guys rock.


For my Top 3 greatest players in green white green, they are

KANU

Okocha

Rashidi Yekini

My mam u are welcome to a great thread where people talk football and sometimes go haywire but u know what we are all one here,we agree and also disagree.

My man enjoy yourself

irrefragable:
i was surprised when i logged in nairaland early this morning to see 5 mentions all directing back to this thread. Although i understand 'irrefragable' is a word and people use it all the time but I think as regards this issue it should be dropped.

I've moved on after the incidence putting everything behind me leaving the thread in the process and i think everyone should move on and forget something like this ever happened

The incidence really cast me in a bad light like I'm a bad tempered person waiting for the slightest chance to erupt which I'm not.

I understand you have a family thing going on here and family protects their own right? But i still think you should put a chiding word across to that lady.

I've been on nairaland for close to a decade mainly as a guest (though I've used a few monikers now and then) and I'm telling you i know that username. She is rude. She attacks people for no reason not just in sports section, other sections too.

A chastising word in her direction would do her a world of good so she isn't tempted to say thrash to the wrong guy in the streets someday and get her comeuppance.

And please I REALLY REALLY WISH my attention will not be drawn back to this thread by way of mentions. For the sake of God, if possible please substitute the word 'irrefragable' for 'irrefutable' they both mean the same thing.

BTW thumbs up guys, great analysis.

Respect my guy!continue enjoy d thread and forget d past.

Elnino4ladies:
That is the truth.

Mikel and world class far apart.

ok but Mikel is one of my top(world)class player from my own perspective.Thanks.

Nihilist:

Mikel has never been World Class in his life.

That dude hasn't even been relevant at Chelsea since 2011 when AVB kicked his ass to the bench. RDM came and also maintained his status on the bench. Mourinho came and continued the status quo and converted him to a bus driver. You only saw Mikel on the pitch when Jose was ready to park the bus and deflate the tires.

Hiddink came and started playing Mikel at centreback and Finally Conte came to chase him away for good without a single appearance for the club

Na that one you dey call world class?

The only reasonable thing Mikel did at Chelsea between 2011 and 2017 was the performance vs Barca and that final at the Allianz.

Dude has literally been inconsequential at Chelsea for the last 6 years.

Oh my God see finishing.Mikel offend u.Haba softly if anything dey make we know

My guy,Mikel is among my top class player or abi na world class una dey call am.Pls don't burn me with Petrol and Tyre for saying Mikel is a world class player coz i love d guy die as u hate am die.No offence.

Haba for saying Mikel na world class na to burn person with petrol and tyre Wey i no be Seun Egbegbe.I dey fear for this thread

Nihilist:
Mikel World class?

Has Mikel been ever been World Class in his life?

Take this kinda yarns to Chelsea thread and there are several people willing to lynch you with Petrol and Tyre if they could.

My guy Mikel na world class o.Pls don't lynch me with Petrol and Tyre.I beg o.

tglobal:
You cation the man because the woman is at a disadvantage in a physical brawl.

This however has no way of getting physical, so I don't see why gender should be a consideration. I also hold that it is insulting to step in to defend someone on an online forum, simply because they are female because it is implicitly assuming that they do not have the capacity to do so and her fragile Frankly, it is insulting to safarigirl (or any woman for that matter) for anyone to think they can't stand up for themselves intellectually or verbally. From what I see here, safarigirl is well able to handle herself and shouldn't need people standing up for her.

Good talk but u know what a woman w always be a woman but in this kind of a situation man must mellowed and let d silent do d talking,though it's difficult but u earned people's respect.

Chrismario:
One is seen as chairlady of the house while the other is seen as ordinary guest

Pls be a mediator and don't escalate d issue.Nobody own this thread but what w bring u out is your analytical views of things,so giving respect to some guys here is not their own making but they earned it through their contribution to d thread.

Pls irrefragable and Safarigirl take it cool and lets us move on.Do u know is possible u are brother and sister coz this is a faceless forum.Abeg o

zicky:
Admin pls do something to this irrefragable guy, we don't share hate here

U are right,but d guy must have used d word HATE in annoyance.We should know that though is a faceless forum but that should not give us audacity to talk anyhow coz we are here to share ideas,though some comments shows hatred and are absurds but u know what w need to show maturity in response.

I remember a serious argument i had with Michael2 that guys in d house needed to come in and settled.Despite that we do quotes.I w never forget him quoting and said what did i take this morning to share d same view with him over a comment and i replied that it w take a very intelligent minds and those who knows football to really thumb me up.

I have said it several times,that in this thread we have different types of pundits,we have good analysers of d game who are not sentimental in their comments whether they like d player or not but some are here to spread d hatred they have for players in their comments.

Honestly w need to raise our maturity level in our comments coz a lot of guests are always here for information and we must make d thread credible or else we are going to lose d credibility.

forgiveness:
I want to make a list of players fighting for a position from the goalkeeper to the striker in the National team. I want us to arrange them based on your own rating.

I will start from the Left Wing.

LEFT WING

Victor Moses - Chelsea; Arguably, the best player for this position. With his tricks, he can unlock any defense in the world. In short, he is the most skilful player in the National team. He is the number one on my list. He can also play as a RM. - Now, who can deputize for him in case of the unexpected?


Now, let us choose between Moses Simon and Ademola-lookman though we have other players contending for this position.


Moses Simon - Gent; I don't really know what is happening to him recently but I think he is my second choice for now pending the guy behind him surpasses him. And who is that guy?

Ademola-lookman - Everton; This is the new kid on the block making rave in the Premier League. This guy could go places at the rate he has risen from nowhere to becoming a full team player within three years. He's a good dribbler, he is skilful, he can score goals and he can give an accurate long pass. I rate him highly than Moses Simon.

We also have Sheyi Ojo who plays for Liverpool.


RIGHT WING

Ahmed Musa - Lec city; He is not my preferred choice but he's of course the number one on my list based on experience and other factors. I think he is best used as a Left Winger or striker.

Who do you think is best to stand for him incase...?


I think....

Isaac Success of Watford is the answer and my preferred choice. He's a reminiscent of Victor Moses. He is very skillful and direct but he has lost his goal sense based on what I saw. Imagine, Victor Moses on the Left Wing with Success on the right wing, any team go fear fear na.


The next person is Sone Aluko of Fulham. I think he is most skilful not in the National team. He can play as a second striker and as an attacking midfielder.

Imoh Ezekiel could have been on the list but where em dey get as em be.

We have Noel Joel Sarenren Bazee also contending for this position.


Center Forward

This one I know know who I go put as number one for this position before some people chew me raw. Seriously, we need a potent striker in the mould of Diago Costa of Chelsea.

I don't want to think about Odion Ighalo because of em Chinko move.

Therefore, I will go for Aaron Samuel of CSK Moscow. It is my choice. You can choose yours.

The next will be Brown Ideye.

We have Adi, Sadiq Umar, Dominic Solanke, Tammy Abraham, Henry Onyekuru, Kayode Olanrewaju and


My front line up will be like this..

....... Victor (Lw)........ Aaron (CF)........ Isaac(RW)


................................ Iheanacho(Ss)/Iwobi depending on the formation.


Let me drop this one before moving to the midfield.


If there are some players missing please endeavor to add to the list then choose ya first and second choice.


Last week I wrote about the rising numbers of players fighting for a position in the team and who should be the first and second choice. And those who are capable to play the role.

Today, I will like to forge ahead with the Midfield.

I will start with the attacking midfielders/second striker my number one choice is, hmmmmm, Alex Iwobi.


ATTACKING MIDFIELDER/ SECOND STRIKER

Alex Iwobi - Arsenal-fc; I think he is the only number ten we have in a top club in Europe. He can hold unto ball, he can give a through pass and he can also dribble very well. He is my favorite.

Kelechi Iheanacho - Man City; From my observations of this lad, he is best utilized behind the striker and that position is what actually shot him into limelight. This will afford him the opportunity to play freely on field without the restrictions of being stagnant in one position. I promise you, Kelechi must score or at worst provide assist in this role. He is my second choice.


Oghenekaro-etebo - CD Feirense; Even though, he can play different roles, I think he is best utilized as a second striker. Etebor can play as a box to box midfielder if we want him to play alongside Iwobi or Nacho.

Abdul Ajagun - Roda; Hehehehe! At the mention of his name alone, every knee must bow. Eze-okwu. This lad is naturally an attacking midfielder who needs to be given a chance to prove himself. Anyway, he is on my list.

Josh Onomah- Tottenham; I have not taken time to see his game but he's also a natural attacking midfielder and I think he deserves to be given a trail. After all, he is playing for one of the best clubs in EPL.

Is there anyone I am missing? You can add yours.



CENTRAL MIDFIELDER

Mikel Obi- Chinko club; Arguably, he is the most experienced and most influential player on the list. We don't need too much stories though his Chinko move get k leg but I will give him benefit of doubt.... until I see him play. For now, he is my first choice.


Ogenyi-onazi - Trapazone; Without any doubt, he is the most experienced player after Mikel in the National team. Onazi can double as a CMF and Defensive midfielder. If he is not playing as a CMF then he must play as the defensive Midfielder.


Raheem Lawal - Kayserispor; I don't understand why this guy is not in the National team despite his stellar performance in the friendly. So far, he has been underatted by many without knowing he was the best player of the U23 Africa Olympics qualifiers tournament.


John Ogu; He is having the best season of his career. Although, he was noticed and given a call but but he wasn't given the chance to prove himself.


DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER

Wilfred Ndidi - Leicester; This is the new kid on the block. He is currently doing himself good in the EPL. However, he is my first choice if Onazi plays beside him as another DMF else he will have to understudy Onazi in this role.


Mikel Agu- Victoria Setubal; This lad is making waves in the Portuguese Liga. A run of MOT game after game should be enough to convince his doubters, he is ready for the National team. He's my preferred choice behind Ndidi.

Anderson Esiti - Gent; This lad is playing regularly for his Belgium club and he is doing well in this position. He deserves to be looked into.


Sanusi Ryan - Sparta Rotterdam; Many have not heard about this lad but I can tell you, he was part of the team that brought back Rotterdam to the Eredivisie. He scored goals from his position which made him to known as the DMF with high numbers of goals.

If you know more please endeavor to share.

My front line up will be like this..

....... Victor (Lw)........ Aaron (CF)........ Isaac(RW)


................................ Iheanacho(Ss)/Iwobi depending on
the formation.


...................... Mikel Obi.......... Onazi


TheSuperNerd, TheGoodJoe, chrisooblog, Icon4s, Kog45, safarigirl, Tbaba1234, goldfish80, lakesidepapa, AIG07, Komekn, terzurum5, chai! Why I con dey forget some moniker na? My apologies to those not mentioned.

Good formation with good players but don't forget that it's not compulsory for all good players to make d team.

Chrismario:
Good evening sir

Without mba,,,,, no Afcon for Eagle 2013

Sorry o is Mba not part of Afcon 2013 Squad,then without Amuneke no Afcon for Eagle 1994.

edi287:
Mikel has never had a season as good as Kante did last season. This season he has been immense as well.

Agreed but too early to compare Kante and Mikel coz this is a guy that is still trying to find his steam in d French national team,though with his performances so far,Kante w be a force to reckon with and likely to be rated than great Makelele.

joseph1013:
That's a good debate. I submit that if Busquets was at Chelsea and played the same number of games and was as consistent, he would be World Class. If Mikel played at Barcelona and experienced the highs and lows he experienced at Chelsea in Barcelona, he would not be World Class, he would still be a great player.

Busquets is too consistent at a high level over a great number of games across many competitions to ignore.

True talk but do u think Busquets w make it at Chelsea coz Chelsea as a club from d onset always go for powerful midfielder e.g.Makelele,Essien,Diarra,Kante,Matic,i can say only Mikel was different in his approach and positional play.

I don't believe Busquets w make it at Chelsea coz at chelsea u must have d strength but i can tell u Mikel w be highly successful at Barcelona coz he has d flair that suit Barca style.

Joebie:
So I have to be in London or visit the UK to know what is World Class? You can't be on your computer and make assumptions as to where others are located.. Anyways i won't go on with this.

Yes if his profile failed to convince u,then u need to reach Chelsea ground may be u w be convinced.The heroes of 2012 champions league are all legend at chelsea and it w last till eternity.
Terry and Lampard said a true legend w be remembered for his contribution to Chelsea to show their respect to John Obi.Chelsea as a club paid tribute to one of d longest serving player(Mikel Obi) and u are here try to tell us what is not

My guy u are welcome to a thread where one need to think deeply before making any comment coz people here are gurus when it comes to football.

Joebie:
Okay really there is no point arguing this matter all over again. If he was that world class as some of you are claiming here, we will not need to have this argument in the first place.. No doubt he stands over his peers in SE at the moment based on records. But come on, however you want to argue please dont use the word world class when describing Mikel. I will see it as pure sentiments.. you wont to be able to say this anywhere and hardly find someone trying to dispute it.. With MIkel there are many IFs.. if mourinho did not convert him. IF he had went to Man U.etc.. I'm not talking potential now. Based on what we saw from him over the years, he could hardly make a top 20 FIFA shorlist year after year.. Please let's reserve the phrase world class for players that are really special. Not Mikel

Pls who are d world class players and what is d meaning of world class player coz it's in Nigeria am always hearing world class player,here at my base nothing like world class player.

Those w classified as top player are d guys who played or are playing in top division across d world and also a playing for their national team with good laurels to show for it and Mikel is one of them by winning a lot for his club which i w not mention again and winning prestigious Afcon our own version of copa America which is still eluding Messi and European Cup which Ronaldo won which his fans always used as their supremacy over Messi.

My guy i don't argue but talk football to d best of my knowledge coz have been on it for long and i know what am saying,so Mikel is a top player irrespective d way u view world class player.Pls go to London and visit Chelsea ground then u w know may be Mikel is a world class as u described it.

A player won Afcon,European champions league,Europa cup,two EPL,Four FA cups,League Cup,community shield and 2nd best Africa player 2013,pls rate this player.

goldfish80:
I will go with
3-5-1 formation
....................... Ikeme....
Tekei........... Nagedu........ Balogoun......
Moses............ B. Moukandjo..... Onazi........... Elderson
....... Bassogog......... Mikel.............. Iwobi
..................... Iheanacho

Good formation

Joebie:
Sure. Mikel plays 10 for SE. He shouldn't. He is not that creative and can't dictate the tempo of the game. He should play as a holding midfielder. OVERATED

U are welcome to one of d best thread on nairaland.Am highly delighted reading your views on Mikel Obi and your discussions with supernerd on Mikel which i see as hatred vs analytical arguments.

I believe Michael2 w be delighted to read my contributions on this coz w had hottest arguments on Mikel that great guys on this thread needed to come in and say enough is enough,one thing i learnt on this thread is this we have different views and understanding of d game and it take a very knowledgeable guy to really know who is making sense and who is talking thrash.

On John Obi Mikel,i w say this and i w repeat it anytime any day that any pundits that say Mikel is overrated doesn't know anything about football and should keep quiet coz d guy has seen it all as a footballer and must be respected for God sake whether u like him or not,a hatred should not be our judgment in analysing a player.

Truly Mikel has his shortcomings as a player but that doesn't gives room for(MIKEL IS NOT CREATIVE AND CAN'T DICTATES TEMPO OF THE GAME' HE SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING NO 10 for SE" HE IS OVERRATED' HE SHOULD BE DROPPED)This statements signify what i can refer to as total hatred and any fan that show this kind of attitude towards any player always wanted d player to be at d losing side coz have seen fan who wanted Nigeria to lose coz he hate certain player.I hope u w be happy see Nigeria winning despite seeing Mikel on d field.

This is a player that have over 10years experience playing for top European club whether as a regular or on d bench coz i don't want to know and he had good eleven trophy as a a Chelsea player with super prestige champions league as one of d trophy and such a player was being described as nothing,it's uncalled-for and absurd.

Mikel Obi career as a Super Eagles player playing as No 10 was due to coaches decisions.He did not force himself on them,he came to camp and always distinguished himself and pls who is at fault but coming here to tell us Mikel should not be playing NO 10 for eagles is some how crazy,to my surprised u are even saying Ndidi should be picked ahead which show something is amiss.

My question is this whom do u feel can bench this guy coz u said he should be dropped for no reason.A player can only be dropped if he is not playing to expectations and our last three matches proved to us d guy is still good,world cup qualifying for God sake we won home and away with his input and a goal,so what else again coz am confused.

Proffdada:
I pray angry Nigerians won't set it ablaze

It seems u don't know naija,if na me be 2face i go just carry 1m throw am for Oshodi Area and see how people go dey shout 2face na u be real man,was not in this country prisoner like Olabode George was celebrated in a church after completed a jail term.What of James Ibori a crook that returned with fun fare and praises.My man forget it this country is sick.

richidinho:
USELESS NIGHT CLUB FROM A USELESS STAR

Oh boy wetin na,nah by force to lead a protest.

TheGoodJoe:

I understand the week in week out demand but, look at Iwobi for instance. Staying up so late and chatting while he had a match later that day. Such is not tolerated by Guardiola. We might hail Iwobi playing week in, week out but he is losing out on some discipline training. It took Xhaka to tell Iwobi to go to bed.

Are u saying Nacho should stay put if this trend continues till d end of d season coz Pep is a disciplinarian.

If i may ask u which Nacho did u preferred,Nacho under Pellegrin or under Guardiola.

On discipline,individual managers have different approach when it comes to discipline and i can tell u Wenger is one of them,Iwobi chatting in d night doesn't amount to indiscipline.We can't.do our things in d same way,Guardiola may frown at it while Wenger w just look other way round.

Elnino9:
how come africa champions won't be at nxt year world cup how?

Yes Cameroon w not be at world cup coz Nigeria have everything to beat Cameroon home and away,good for them to win Afcon and we must respect them for that great achievement but come to WC qualification they should forget it.

I remember Zambia almost beat d same team at home but settle for a draw,though one need to use last match to judge Cameroon performance which is Afcon Final against Egypt but World Cup is a different game whether qualifying or proper world cup.

As it stand Nigeria is a team to beat in that WC group and Cameroon knew that,d four point gap is not a joke,it's left for them to close d gap which is a huge task coz Eagles current form is superb.

TheGoodJoe:
From the look of things, Aguero is leaving Manchester City. If Guardiola does not buy a high profile striker to fit that role, do you think Iheanacho should still leave Manchester City? Consider he still has a lot to learn.

cc: Icon4s, Kog45, TheSuperNerd, safarigirl, Joseph1013, lakesidepapa, goldfish80, Xzbit91, BascoVanVeli, terzurum5

A lot to learn?hope u remember a champions league match were Nacho and Aguero need to sit on d bench for a false 9.It was at this period i knew Pep doesn't believe in d duo,just waiting for d arrival of Gabriel and come next season Pep w bid for another striker that suit his philosophy.

Nacho should just leave for a better club that appreciate him.Nacho development is important to Super eagle and Rohr believe so much on him.

Thegoodjoe i know u are so passionate about Man city and always feel Nacho development is secured at Man City but sometimes as a fan u just have to deal with it,Nacho must moves elsewhere for real thing,playing week in week out.

safarigirl:
Kelechi should just find a coach in a smaller team who is more interested in building a great striker than buying ready made

Give it four years and City will be back with a ridiculous amount once he's the finished product. I hope he turns them down for Liverpool then

U nailed it coz it's absurd seeing Nacho not making a match day squad.

princesuko:
This. Iheanacho Simply failed to Impress Pep. Remember the Match against Man U in the Fa cup when i said he was Poor, the Goodjoe was Saying he had a 9/10 Performance.

Most People Are Blaming Pep and GJ but nacho should be the One taking the blame because he didn't Impress Pep when he was Given the Opportunity, For Pep strikers are More than Goals that's where GJ is everything Nacho Isn't. He is an Ideal Pep striker.

Yea very ideal striker for Pep coz am watching man city vs Swansea now,Gabriel Jesus is good and solid.He had a good first half with a goal.

jaxxy:
Ok maybe possible. It's a reduced price yh. No issues. Thx

That's d fact,most 05/96 came with auto.No isuue,then guys should grab d opportunity coz i can say much about Audi tt.

obembet:
If am privilege to be in position of 2 face today, I will not give up...

Nelson Mandela doesn't give up on SA.. Though his no more but SA can't forget him in a hurry

If you stand for this protest click like...

Humm truly South Africa w never forget Mandela but Nigeria w forget u and even messed u up.Do u remember Anthony Enahoro d man who moved a motion for Nigeria independent.Pls who remember him.Pls forget naija o.