₦airaland Forum

I, like numerous other on nairaland reside in diaspora. i havent been to lagos for about 5 years and everytime anyone returns and i ask how was it, more often than not i hear that it has positively changed and that fashola is doing a great job. when cynics like soyinka and his ilk tell you he's good, believe it. the harshest critics are probably the most selfish ones or those who his vision hasnt reached yet. soffry soffry, they will soon get to your area. across board and from what ive heard it sounds good. theres more work to be done definitely, heck even the industrialized countries dont sit on their laurels. he seems to have a vision, is committed to carrying out that vision, has a good head on his shoulders and a clear pathway to success. he makes buba marwa sound like kermit the frog [no offence to kermit the frog]

[quote author=na2day? link=topic=385674.msg5377074#msg5377074 date=1264348648]i see u are being promiscuous again [/quote]no mind am

the truth of the matter is Obasanjo like most human beings has done good things, bad things and ugly things.depending on who you speak to you will most certainly get a different opinion about the man. without absolving him of any of the rot he has contributed to, notably he did some good things during his tenure, like elevating women to positions of authority previously unseen in a male dominated masochistic nigeria. bring the expertise and international know-how of okonjo-iweala was a master stroke, transferring her to foreign affairs ministry was a disaster. now she is the MANAGING DIRECTOR of world bank [i love that phrase and makes me proud to be a nigerian despite the bad press]. i believe that Obasanjo has possibly done his best work outside Nigeria. im referring specifically to his immeasurable contributions to the liberation of Southern African countries, and his peace initiatives throughout the continent. for the history students amongst us, Nigeria was instrumental to the efforts of a pre-apartheid South Africa, as well as other countries and Obasanjo contributed to this. Obasanjo's talks with Thatcher et al moved them towards ending apartheid , amongst others. on a lot of things he will be faulted but bear in mind that Nigeria is a very difficult place to govern and is ruled by an evil cabal. until this cabal is removed, either by law or forcefully progress will not come by, at least not the kind of progress we deserve, in respect to the resources the dear Lord has blessed us with. concluding this when its all said and done i think he will be remembered as a great man who could and should have done better, but will be remembered as a great man. any man who can rule nigeria 2ce in 2 different decades and stop not only atiku but babangida and buhari [2 past presidents] from coming back has to have greatness somewhere in his DNA. i rest

as this thread has lost its initial trajectory i DECLARE THIS THREAD OFFICIALLY CLOSED

very very very good

Syenite:
When you tell a Nigerian " Hey! Your House is dirty. Clean it up" he immediately tells you " Why are you disturbing me? Look at that house , and that other house. They are as dirty as mine".

[So if your father's house is dirty and you need to clean up you will go into the streets and start making mokery of your father's house and displaying the pictures before the world. You don't know how far these images go. Nigerians should learn to respect this country. Are we the poorest in the world?

very true words, anyone can be here,after all its free to browse.lets use this medium for positive things.we know slums are in parts of the country but what are we prepared to do about it.? make a difference or show the world exactly how dirty the slums are? its a shame, the mentality of a lot of people is gone. brazil has MORE slums than naija but you wont see them exhibiting it, and even when they do [ as in CITY OF GOD], its to tell a story and magnify how bad it is so the government can assist, not post pictures on a website.

semid4lyfe:
The mozambiquans resorted to taking shots from way outside our box 18 and only had one chance from inside the box
All in all, good performance by the eagles.
My Ratings goes thus
*V. Enyeama - definitely came to the party today. Made some very good saves & kept us in the game in the 1st half - 8/10.  *Y. Mohammed - still playing below par but definitely improving from game to game. He's certainly grown in confidence and he certainly sealed up his wing today. Did a good job of covering for Osaze when he drifted into the center. He needs to do more close marking though- 6.5/10.
*E. Echiejile - Very impressive defender. So this kain player dey wey we dey suffer ourself with T.Taiwo? He did the business of defending today and he gave his opposing player close marking - 7/10.
*Danny Shittu - The captain and commander in chief on the pitch. Not too skillful and has a penchant for balløonig balls out of defence but did a good job of marshalling the defence line today & I don't recall him putting a foot wrong. Got extra point for nodding down the ball which should have resulted in our 1st goal by Obasi - 8/10
*A. Onyekachi - Very good defender. Did a lot of close marking and intercepted so many short passes interchanged by the opposing team around our 18 - 7.5/10.
*S. Kaita - Did the most marking and disrupted more opposing attacks 2day - 7/10.
*D. Etuhu - Was simply anonymous in midfield today and lost the ball a couple of times too - 5/10.
* M. Obi - Too many short backward & sideway passes when he should have run and moved forward with the ball. Dude needs a change of mentality and must show ambition & purpose with the ball. He needs a heavy dose of Osaze's 'forward always' mentality. A below par performance - 5.5/10.
* C.Obasi - His performance 2day was lukewarm. So much is expected from him particularly after what he did in the 1st match. Should have gotten 2 goals in the 1st 45 and put us ahead. Did a good job of backtracking, marking the opposing players on his wing & helping out Echiejile though - 6/10.
* O. Odemwingie - Played with passion, commitment, drive (as usual) and was the only ball carrier today. Drifted into the center from time to time & did what the other players were afraid to do, TAKE SHOTS AT GOAL (this led to our 1st goal). His runs off the ball & positional play was very good too (led to the 2nd goal). Also did a good job of backtracking and helping out Mohammed -9/10.
*Y.Aiyegbeni - Clearly lacks pace & mobility. He was too static and didn't make runs off the ball. Also needs to stop hiding behind defenders and make dummy runs to shake off his markers. Lacked positional play and should have really scored his 1 on 1 chance for some1 who says he's our best striker. Got marks for beating the offside trap and providing the assist for Osaze to score our 2nd goal though- 5/10
*O. Nsofor - Should have passed a particular thru' ball to Martins but wasted it by shooting wide. Also wasted what should have been our 4th goal. Did a lot of marking and chased down the opposing defenders when they were running with the ball though - 5/10.
*O. Martins - Injected some pace into the attack and forced the Mozambiquan goalkeeper into making an error just outside his 18. Also had the presence of mind to be in good position and score the 3rd goal - 5.5/10.

poignant analysis. i like

harakiri:
Rubbish like this will ALWAYS continue to thrive in Africa because Africans themselves are NOT willing to forge ahead.First of all, what kind of leadership do we have?It's defined in the equation below :

Traditional/cultural way of doing things + Borrowed scripts from the western world = Nigerian Government

This is a land where most people follow the unwritten rule with is :

KILL THE SMALL THIEF AND CROWN THE BIG THIEF AS KING! ! !

So long as we follow this pattern, THIS COUNTRY CAN NEVER EVER  progress. Look at how the likes of Obj,Ibb and the rest of them are celebrated and worshiped.We hear of EFCC going after the likes of Cecelia and the rest but how many Nigerians have actually come out to protest against the insane looting that goes on everyday in this country?How many civil demonstrators have come out to ask for the probing of IBB and OBJ? Nil . . .Nobody wants to die.Look at USA,UK,France,China and Russia.They didn't get to where they are now by being docile.As developed as China and France are, the citizens still take to the streets over any little oppression or misconduct from their leaders.There are sometimes casualties in these demonstrations.Do a research on violent riots and you'll understand more of what i am talking about.Monarchy and dictatorship ended in France over the PRICE OF BREAD and the riot was lead by WOMEN. . .they killed almost every top ranking leader in France for change to come.Look at France today.They were light years ahead of America when it comes to democracy.

So long as we continue doing things the old way, we will always remain like this.Imagine a country that makes billions of dollars monthly from oil sales.We don't even have account of other abundant resources that are being exported daily.Even the amount generated internally from taxes is sufficient enough to impact on the lives of the people.If you doubt me, consider how much Fashola makes daily from okada,keke napep,taxis,market women,buses,shops,kiosks,import duties,lastma,VIO. . .the list is endless but if you put all those N50, N500,N5000,N100,000 and so on. . .Lagos makes over N400 million at least on a daily basis.This excludes monthly funding from federal government.All this money. . .and yet. . .

Africans are the ones that don't want to progress.Period!

God bless you. one word. liberia, protests work !

Kobojunkie:
My bad!! I see NAIJA in the topic and assume these are not just pictures of Lagos!!

I merely asked a question myself !

I am sorry to disappoint you but you are wrong. I don’t think as you do so there is little chance you can ever figure out what I AM THINKING here. All you can do is respond to the questions asked and that is all.

The questions asked where to ascertain the relevance of the examples provided, given that NO ONE has so far stated that poor people are unable to take care of their environments and NO ONE has said the littering comes from government.

I am not the one who seems to be defending anything here, you are. I quoted you because I still saw the same pattern( the urge to offer up a defense for the status quo and excuse away our faults) as mentioned in that post, which I happen to have taken from a similar thread.

kobo how far naaaaaaaaaaaa

londoner:
@Katsumoto, I think its what we need to do, at the end of the day we have provided a docile environment for them to get away with it until now, we can do this. We just need people who have the information to get it to us, and yes, we need to do it in a PEACEFUL and LEGAL way. If these thieves are using stolen loot to pay for school fees, we have to make it undesireable for respected institutions such as universities and private schools to be associated with that money.

Can you imagine groups of Nigerians at the airport in protest when they get off the plane? Even if we simply stand there in silence wearing T-shirts whish symbolise our discontent, how long do you think it will be before they become embarassed, others start asking questions as to why are we are doing it etc?

the funny thing is the kids are so brainwashed they dont see anything wrong with what mummy and daddy are doing, or they surround themselves with like for like, to avoid criticism. shame them

londoner:
Those of us outside Nigeria can be very useful in the protest against corrupt and thieving politicians, it is here that they run to, here where they send their children to school, here where they launder their money. If we had the right "tip offs", information about movements abroad, we can really embarass these people, their families and those who coerce with them outside of Nigeria. They dont hold any power or influence outside Nigeria, either of the security forces, media etc, we can be more effective actually. If we mount a sustained campaign wherever we are.

well spoken mate

just to add the following acts recorded music for Mandela, and they didn't do it in south Africa neither were they south africans. people think, think, think !

Musical tributes [ from wikipedia]

Many artists have dedicated songs to Mandela. One of the most popular was from the The Specials who recorded the song "Free Nelson Mandela" in 1983. Stevie Wonder dedicated his 1985 Oscar for the song "I Just Called to Say I Love You" to Mandela, resulting in his music being banned by the South African Broadcasting Corporation.[166] In 1985, Youssou N'Dour's album Nelson Mandela was the Senegalese artist's first United States release.

In 1988, the Nelson Mandela 70th Birthday Tribute concert at London's Wembley Stadium was a focal point of the anti-apartheid movement, with many musicians voicing their support for Mandela.[167] Jerry Dammers, the author of Nelson Mandela, was one of the organisers.[167] Simple Minds recorded the song "Mandela Day" for the concert,[167] Santana recorded the instrumental "Mandela",[167] Tracy Chapman performed "Freedom Now", dedicated to Mandela and released on her album Crossroads,[167] Salif Keita from Mali, who played at the concert, later visited South Africa and in 1995 recorded the song "Mandela" on his album Folon.[167] and Whitney Houston performed and dedicated the gospel song "He I Believe".

In South Africa, "Asimbonanga (Mandela)" ("We Have Not Seen Him" became one of Johnny Clegg's most famous songs, appearing on his Third World Child album in 1987.[168] Hugh Masekela, in exile in the UK, sang "Bring Him Back Home (Nelson Mandela)" in 1987.[169] Brenda Fassie's 1989 song "Black President", a tribute to Mandela, was hugely popular even though it was banned in South Africa.[170] Nigerian reggae musician Majek Fashek released the single, "Free Mandela", in 1992, making him one of many Nigerian recording artists who had released songs related to the anti-apartheid movement and to Mandela himself.

In 1990, Hong Kong rock band Beyond released a popular Cantonese song, "Days of Glory". The anti-apartheid song featured lyrics referring to Mandela's heroic struggle for racial equality.[171] The group Ladysmith Black Mambazo accompanied Mandela to the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo, Norway in 1993, and performed for his inaugaration in 1994. In 2003, Mandela lent his weight to the 46664 campaign against AIDS, named after his prison number. Many prominent musicians performed in concerts as part of this campaign.[172]

A summary of Mandela's life story is featured in the 2006 music video "If Everyone Cared" by Nickelback.[173]Raffi's song "Turn This World Around" is based on a speech given by Mandela where he explained the world needs to be "turned around, for the children".[174] A tribute concert for Mandela's 90th birthday took place in Hyde Park, London on 27 June 2008.[175]

londoner:
Well done people, wish I was there.

To the people saying it should be in Nigeria, why was it in the Uk? You obviously are not familiar with Whitehall/ parliament square. People from countries around the world protest there almost every week! There is a permanent demo there for the Afghan people. Also demo's by the Sudanese, Zimbabweans, Chinese, Sri Lankans etc, this is what that place is used for, especially because of its proximity to the houses of parliament and number ten. People from other countries demonstrate there all the time, especially when the "home country" does not listen to its people.

Well done Nigerians, !!!!!

thank you my brother. when MANDELA[b][/b] was in prison singers far and wide recorded songs, actors acted movies, protests were done both in SOUTH AFRICA AND THE WHOLE WORLD[b][/b]. those songs, movies, paintings, t shirts, posters forced the arm of the ruling evil bastards who eventually after 27 long painful years released him. we need more of these. more, more, more. our singers need to sing,p square, dbanj etc. CAN YOU SEE WHY NO ONE IN NAIJA HOLDS A CANDLE TO FELA, OH HOW I WISH MY FELA WAS STILL ALIVE.[b][/b]

blacksta:
To butteress your point - On the day of the protest we had media resprentatives from various non nigerian media houses. The Nigerian Liberty forum is an active member of british society constantly engaging matters that concern Nigeria

1. Lobbying the government on the ongoing case against James Ibori and so many more
2. Making the U.k a less comfortable save heaven for corrupt politicians and associates


Nigerians will only be the effective medium that speak for Nigeria

God bless you and thanks for the pictures and the initiative. you played your part, thats the main thing. you can look yourself in the mirror and say, 'i did something'. God bless you

[quote author=Iyke-D link=topic=381078.msg5318977#msg5318977 date=1263521168]I see your point, but I believe there are more direct flights from Nigeria other than Arik. I know Delta and Virgina Nigeria (I think they have a new
name now) flies direct.

I could be wrong, but I believe the issue with Amsterdam was because since the flight originated from Lagos, he was already in a protected zone
so to speak and wasn't subjected to more thorough screening as if he was entering the airport a new - like I said, I could be wrong. Lastly, people
maybe looking at this US marshal thing too narrowly, its another layer of defense or deterrence. It could simply be to discourage them from using
Lagos as a launching pad since the knowledge is out there that marshals are on the flight.[/quote]you are right, north american airlines flight direct from lagos to the US, arik is the only indigenous airline that flies direct. your point that he wasnt subjected to extra screening is a notable one, its a known fact that security in connecting flights is not as stringent as the location of departure. having said that he still wont have been detected except by the body scanners [which amsterdam aint using at the moment]. in a related thread i spoke about the 3 things the US and the concerned countries need to remove this scourge from our psyche and lives.

1. information sharing [like the one his father provided]. US need to get better with this. it is key. if the info was shared he would have been arrested at lagos, or detained for questioning at schipol. if you stop them from boarding the plane u may not need air marshals that much.

2. communication. for crying out loud there are WAY too many agencies in the US. 17 i believe, now here's the trip, they are so stuck up and conceited they would rather keep information than 'communicate it to a rival agency and they take the credit'.

3. profile on behaviour and not nationality, religion,ethnicity. remember when middle eastern people were seriously profiled after 9/11. now its nigerians, tomorrow it may be a german. my point is profile on behaviours and the US should HIRE immigration officers with a degree as a minimum. intelligent well paid people who have undergone intensive training on behavioural patterns. its a system than has worked in Israel by a famous airline there where all passengers are interviewed before boarding by professionals. it has worked to a great effect. an example of profiling on behaviour is this;

mutallab was flying to the US for a 2 week holiday and checked no bags in[only a small bag], paid in cash, and was reported by his dad. a well trained professional will connect the dots if the information is shared. hope this sheds a different perspective. im here to learn and respect everyone's views, even if i dont necessarily agree with them

[quote author=Iyke-D link=topic=381078.msg5318910#msg5318910 date=1263519443]We are talking about "US Air Marshals on Flights", not re-hashing the Iraq war or other US military adventures.    However, there was this Mutallab guy that went through MMA and all of a sudden the US realized that it really needs to re-assess things in Nigeria.[/quote]my brother, what is wrong is wrong. Nigeria is a sovereign state and although huge cracks are evident in the socio-political system amongst other things, IT IS STILL A SOVEREIGN STATE. it is pertinent to note here that according to the US authorities the flight was from amsterdam NOT lagos and that is a fact. 2 flights were taken, one from lagos to schiphol, the other from schiphol to detroit. my point is there was nothing a US marshal could have done in the flight from lagos to amsterdam anyway[as the plan was to detonate the bomb on the final descent. why not install US marshalls on ALL direct flights to the US, if they are serious about the threat. only ARIK air currently fly directly to the US from naija, all other flights are connecting flights. what is wrong is wrong, even if it seems right.

[quote author=Iyke-D link=topic=381078.msg5318843#msg5318843 date=1263518019]
I don't like wars, but I know its necessary sometimes.  By the way, for every US soldier that is returning in a body bag, you can rest assure
that the enemies body count is far greater. That is just what it is.[/quote]trust me the families of the US soldiers and British forces are not seeing it that way. not one bit. war is necessary when there is a justifiable reason to attack, but when it was based on and admitted lie by Bush and Blair[weapons of mass destruction] then its a joke. one wonders why those guys are still living scot free with no repercussions whatsoever. imagine if an African president did that, ? this life sha. double standards galore. im sitting in the best seat of the house and adopting a siddon look approach. so pathetic

No2Atheism:
- The highlighted part is the whole basis of US military atttitude . . .

- War is money to them . .

- Life means nothing to them . . .

- I suspect that they somethings instigate wars simply to make money . . .

interesting. it is accurate that war means money, directly or indirectly. arms and weapons need to be tested, and no amount of 'controlled' testing can replace the main thing. though life means nothing to them american life means something to them when 'another country' attempts to take their lives. they take it personal, but find nothing wrong in sending your americans to possible death in a senseless war. my gut feeling is they wont win this one, those guys there have all the time in the world to fight. the sooner they come home the better. one word is enough for the wise

i honestly believe nairaland is a good initiative, unfortunately it has denigrated to name calling, viciousness and petty and unnecessary insults. the ones in diaspora are as guilty as the ones who never left the country. this tool should be used for effective information sharing/healthy debating and we should learn from one another instead of raining insults when we disagree. i can disagree with anyone but i use maturity when disagreeing. infact on later reflection i might even agree with some of the views i disagreed on initially. lets learn from one another and love one another. its vital.God bless everyone.

[quote author=dreamara link=topic=381078.msg5318514#msg5318514 date=1263512963][/quote]i believe he meant because its the number 1 country doesnt guarantee success 100%. no sane person will be happy when humans die

[quote author=dreamara link=topic=381078.msg5318514#msg5318514 date=1263512963][/quote]i believe he meant because its the number 1 country does guarantee success 100%. no sane person will be happy when humans die

when its all debated and concluded its a wrong move

stillwater:
Lol, You are only attesting to the fact that Nigerian men are unromantic, unpleasant and disrespectful. So you see I was right all along.

not all

ibkaye:
Meh, they're the ones complaining about getting insulted, try it and see if she doesn't take the insult up a notch

its not polite to grab a chic, a real man doesnt do it, regardless of where u live in the world

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=379793.msg5309381#msg5309381 date=1263414975]to those eewing Nigerian men who touch Please note: All Touching is not so alien to Nigerian or African culture, let's slow down on the Oyinbo mentality, we like to touch and stay close together and I'm not talking about perverted touching. If a Nigerian guy grabs your hand publicly just tell him stop, a sensible one will stop. but to start[b] eeewing[/b] touching as if those in Naija grew up in Boston or Chicago is totally unfair to them. African culture for the most part do not see polite physical touching as a social no no, we touch people to get their attention here. Temper the culture shock with some sensibility next time your plane lands in Lagos.[/quote]trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

flashgeek:
While i agree that some Nigerian men have no etiquette when it comes to approaching a lady ,I must also say that Naija girls too like forming. I remember an incident once when I was still in LASU ,I went to alaba market with my girlfriend to buy an HiFI system for my hostel. As soon as we got to the market ,these traders started pulling my girl by the hand ,I wanted to do something but I could not because I realized that I was outnumbered. I told my girl to chill and just hold her temper but these Alaba monkeys will not relent and one dumb naughty person made the mistake of  tapping my girl on azz. As an active LASUITE my reaction was instant ,I kicked the sucker in the nuts with my tims and needless to say ,his friends rushed me.

Lucky for me(and trust me I was very lucky that day) , a few of my school friends were also in the market at that time and they joined in the brawl which lasted a few minutes until one of the “market elders” stopped the fight. We were taken to the Alaba Traders Association office where both parties narrated their side of the story. The elders in the market sided with us and ordered that the boy’s shop(the offender) be locked for some hours as punishment for tapping my girl’s behind. I went home with a couple of bruises by my pride intact.
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On the other hand I experienced a situation where my friend was severely humiliated at moremi hall in unilag, My friend had parked his vehicle close to the hall and we walked to the hostel ,we found some chicks out side  and my friend approached them. But my friend had barely said hello when one of the girl bust out and in her own words :  “abeg abeg ,waka far , na us you wan come toast .See this yeye scrub wey no get levels.”

My friend was frozen to the spot unable to even open his mouth and everybody was looking at him (me ,I  quickly retracted my steps to a very safe distance).I will never forget that day. My friend was traumatized for like 3 hours after that. You know when I look back at it now ,I realize that those chicks were not even solid babes ,they are this regular Naija girls with beautiful face, antelope legs and flat azz.

Any Nigerian guy who has been to Yankie or Southern Africans countries like Tanzania , Angola ,Swaziland ,South Africa ,Zimbabwe and Namibia and Mozambique will know that Naija girls no too set in terms of legs and yansh. Na so so K-leg full naija with pelebe yansh. And the funny these girls from Yankie and Southern Africa no dey form. If a chick in SA spots you in a club and likes you ,she will walk up to you and tell you point blank that : “Damn you are fine”  or  “bro I won‘t mind hooking up with you” .Just like that no forming no need to buy KFC or Mac Donalds and it does not mean that they are cheap either, they are just real straight forward chicks who don’t like to beat around the bush.

So in conclusion, it is 50-50 ,some Naija boys too razz while some Naija girls too dey overform The recent Big Brother Africa show is an example of how Naija girls rate in Africa, you see Nkenna’s face like an old leather bag and Geraldine’s teeth. Chai na shovel be that o! Those two girls no suppose form for anybody at all!

(I know I will receive “HEAVY” insults from Naija girls now )

analyzer

freecocoa:
@ woye so u didn't c any orther name to use besides ngozi?the man must have done something alongside wat he said u know some guys act like touts,some even go as far as touching/draggin while saying wateva they have to say,plus some guys don't just get it wen u say no.i don't insult sha i just calmly xplain myself,but if a guy wanna play deaf to wat i said,i just say sory i don't have time 4 dis & i bounce.

if he used halle or michelle or toyosi, just a name. better to bounce i agree than rain insults, the funny thing is that women are worse off when it comes to unrequited attention

Rehana2:
Amongst the replies there is some mature advice on here. Communication is the best way, but the other way is play the detective, you could type in the phone number/s on the internet and see if it brings up any clues. I did this and it bought up my husband's girlfirends workplace and where she lived (as she was looking to rent a room in her house and had an advert on the internet). Also if she has a Facebook or similar check those sites too. At this early stage in your marriage it is very sad you are experiencing this. I pray you can resolve your trust issues.

I found my husband's Taiwanese girlfriend (young enough to be his daughter) on Facebook after finding their intimate texts to each other too, I sent her a message saying "do you realise he's married". Only for him to come home and say he had a threatening call from a "Taiwanese man" at the office and he was going to get his police friend to investigate the matter. So indirectly he threatened me for harrassing his girlfriend.

awon detective ! u suppose dey work for FBI, CIA, SSS,MI5, THE LIST IS ENDLESS !!!!!!!!

[quote author=Mr. Cartha link=topic=376589.msg5303082#msg5303082 date=1263335535]Crazy [/quote]its understanding what you have to lose and waking up sharp sharp. someone must have given them some wisdom. the answer to all this is information sharing, collaboration and proactiveness, NOT sanctions, war of words and diplomatic breakdowns

[quote author=TOPE2000! link=topic=379409.msg5302970#msg5302970 date=1263333982]lol. . .no be my fault ooo
na habit [/quote]nothing do u jare. carry on

[quote author=Mr. Cartha link=topic=376589.msg5300546#msg5300546 date=1263312815]Can some1 plz tell me when dis ultimatum is ending?![/quote]no more ultimatum, now its diplomacy !

[quote author=TOPE2000! link=topic=379409.msg5302875#msg5302875 date=1263332928]Well it seems the poster's marriage has been doomed from the get -go cuz i remember this same poster posting a thread abt how his wedding is few mnts away and he is not happy abt the whole marriage thing because of some sex issue btn u and your gf then. . . . . .so ummmm

But all the same i suggest u sit your wife down and ask her some serious questions like why she has a hidden phone. [/quote]na wa ooooo. u know dey forget anything.see as you put 2 and 2 together, come jam 22 !