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I'm sure the title of this thread is supposed to be " I'm confused" or "I am confused".

sulad82i:
I wonder sometimes if some of the people on NL are really educated or they just read through the lines. _{No wonder so many of you never pass JAMB}.
If they make a law for the people not to twitt or put up a facebook message about a particular topic, its obvious that only apply to the citizens of their state(s) who are bound by their laws. If you live in another state that does not allow the law and you twitt, they can not come and get you. I am a Muslim and don't support sharia's cruelty. I believe people should get second chance, we are all sinners,  we ask for God's forgiveness and he grant us. So why can't we human and the laws we made be fashioned in the same way.

But still, how will they implement it? How will they stop someone in their own house or office or with a mobile phone or blackberry twitting on sharia? Why make laws that u obviously cant implement? It opens the sharia court to mockery - like the ones here on Nairaland.

Hey Medlabgirl,
White flags all over the place, my girl. So glad we are on the same page.

@ Forpeace
I agree with almost everything you said.

But why blame Fashola? All these problems existed long before he got to the corridors of power.

@ Medlabgirl
What good is it to me if i try to sound smart on the internet? I'm faceless! Surely nobody's gon give me a pat on the back for writing.

I didn't read the page up to your post. just saw the original post and a few of the following posts and got angry that people just swallow all this stuff without even bothering to verify it even though they have google as their home page. Sorry if my post drove you nuts - I wasn't trying to steal your shine. But i gues its for the best if the facts are reiterated more than once. ciao.

@ Poster
Sorry for your loss.

However, the fire cannot be attributed to answering a call while refueling. Although there is a very very slim theoretical chance of cell phones causing explosions, theres no proof whatsoever that IT HAS EVER HAPPENED. There is no scientific proof of this. There is no evidence of this anywhere in the world. And all the numerous stories on the internet telling stories of where it has happened are at best urban legends.

check this link from Motorola

http://www.motorola.com/mot/doc/0/203_MotDoc.pdf

I am skeptical about the authenticity of this story.

Senator Charles Grassley and The United States Senate Committee on Finance carried out an investigation in Nov 2007 into six top christian non-profit organization headed by popular televangelists. They are Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, Paula White, Joyce Meyer and Eddie Long. No Nigerian Pastor was involved in the investigation. And there is no hint from Sen. Grassley's website that any further investigation was being carried out. The investigation began in 2005 and 148 'televangelists' where looked into, and only these six required request for further information.

Sen Grassley has gone ahead to investigate financial impropriety in medical research after concluding the 'televangelist' investigation with no indictment.

If anybody has any further information they should please let us know.

By Awenlimobor Sylvester
Feb 11, 2010 12:21:00 PM

Like a stack of domino tiles falling on each other, the NFF (Nigerian Football Federation) just cannot stop its descent into oblivion, even when it seems harder to fall. The much delayed search for a world class coach to tutor the Nigerian soccer team to the FIFA World Cup in South Africa has yet again exposed the pervasive incompetence that litters Football House.

While many soccer pundits had called for the removal of Shuaibu Amodu as head coach of the team a long time ago, the administrators at the glass house insisted on “swimming and sinking” with the technically bereft gaffer.

With the larger chunk of soccer loving Nigerians now in unison as to the inability of Amodu to credibly discharge his duties without making a mockery of the Nigerian national team, the NFF finally decided to jump from the “sinking” ship they had hitherto promised to go down with! A laughable set of demagogues doing just what they know best.

The timing of the eventual sacking of Amodu portends dangerous consequences for the national team’s chances at the summer tournament in South Africa.

The technical department of the NFF had been hoping against hope itself, believing that Amodu would suddenly transform into a knowledgeable tactician overnight, even though the facts of the matter were constantly sprawled on the pitch of play for all to see; they were wishing for a pig to fly! Had the NFF taken the needed step when it ought to have, we would have had a team gearing up for the 2010 World Cup by now.

Sadly we have been thrown into further disarray by a set of befuddled football administrators who still cannot distinguish between a world class coach and a foreign coach.

Head of the technical committee of the NFF, Chief Taiwo Ogunjobi and the spokesman for Football House, Ademola Olajire recently revealed that the board had shortlisted six “foreign” coaches for the vacant position hitherto held by Amodu, even though the list has insidiously expanded to 10 over the past two days.

This is an act of flippancy at the very least, and without shame we are exposing our retrogressive nature to the world. By publicly shortlisting different coaches with different coaching styles, technical abilities and varied nationalities, the NFF technical team has clearly stated that it lacks understanding of what needs to be done to get the Eagles on their feet.

This is a clear indictment on the NFF and its technical committee, and it shows just how much they really understand football administration.

Prior to the hiring of the last foreign technical adviser of the team, Berti Vogts, the NFF technical committee had gone on a spendthrift sojourn to Europe without the littlest idea of what they wanted. They eventually ended up with the German tactician, whose style and brand of football was not in tandem with the available qualities of players in the team, and gave him a contract that saw him spend more time with his family in Germany than with the national team.

Eventually they had to unceremoniously sack the former German national coach after the Eagles laboured to the quarter-final stage of the 2008 edition of the African Nations Cup.

The NFF are once again ambling along that path and it would appear that we will end up in the same sad state we were in after the 2008 Nations Cup. Giovanni Trapattoni, Guus Hiddink, Loius Van Gaal, Bruno Metsu, Ratomir Djukovic, Hassan Shehata, Peter Taylor, Claude Leroy, Herve Renard, Sven Goran Ericson, Bonfere Jo etc.

The list keeps populating and the confusion grows thicker! Who do we really need to fully explore the potentials of the Nigerian team?

The NFF has also decided to hire a coach on a short-term basis, just for the World Cup. How well can we develop as a nation with these short-term and myopic strategies that will eventually boomerang in our faces. After every disastrous outing of the team since 1998, the NFF informs us that it will return to the proverbial “drawing board” to make changes and long term plans, yet we keep spiralling down and down the drain.

The few coaches that have succeeded in Nigeria have worked with the team for at least three years. Westerhoff, Bonfere Jo and even Samson Siasia have had a relatively lengthy period to study the teams they have had to work with. They had ample time to monitor several players that could fit into their game plan, and one noticeable feature was that at every point they had at least two players for every position - very much unlike Amodu who could not do without his trusted “injured” players.

If the NFF insists on hiring a “foreign” coach on a short-term basis, then soccer loving Nigerians should be ready for further heartbreak and soccer disaster.

The probable candidates and their pros and cons

Giovanni Trapattoni: Too old to handle the shenanigans of the Nigerian football administrators, his success lies in club football not with national team sides. He has very little to show for his stints with Italy and Ireland. He is a “world class” coach undoubtedly, but not the sort of coach that can effectively manage a complicated country like Nigeria. Rating: **

Hassan Shehata: The record-breaking coach of the Pharaohs of Egypt extended his contract with the Egyptian FA last week, so he may not be coming to Nigeria after all. His preferred style of football, which makes use of quick counter-attacks and a winged attacking formation would adapt quite well with the Nigerian team. I am, however, sceptical of his ability to adapt properly to the politics and tactics of soccer in sub-Saharan Africa, as he has spent his entire managerial career in the northern part of Africa and Oman. Rating:**

Louis van Gaal: The Dutchman at present appears too committed to Bayern Munich to want to leave. He would also not be able to understand the devious politics of the Nigerian Football Federation. Van Gaal has not succeeded with any national team before, despite his many successes at club level, and even failed to qualify the Netherlands to the 2002 World Cup. He has absolutely no experience in handling an African side! He would always be attracted to European club football and as such would not stay to build a team after the World Cup. Not a good choice. Rating:*

Guus Hiddink: Hiddink is undoubtedly one of the top choices for the position, as his pedigree needs no further repetition. His name speaks for itself, his experiences at the World Cup make him a top candidate for the position. However he has little understanding of the African soccer terrain. He would find the NFF an impossible organisation to work with.

The Dutch tactician may however flee a few weeks before the tourney kicks off. His penchant for discipline would put him at constant loggerheads with the Nigerian FA. He is currently still under contract with the Russian FA, he might not be allowed to leave by the European side, and even at that he would definitely not be available to build the Nigerian team after the World Cup ends. Tough call! Rating:**

Bruno Metsu: Sojourned too far away from African football, but his tactical strength is indisputable. Many Africans have not heard of the Kenny G lookalike since his exploits with Senegal at the 2002 World Cup. His ability to read games deeply is what would probably be his strongest point in getting called to the position.

His successes with Al Ain FC (United Arab Emirates) and Al Gharafa (Qatar) were quite legendary. He currently coaches the Qatari national team. Metsu would be a good candidate for the position, having coached Guinea and Senegal, giving him some considerable exposure to the arduous politics prevalent in the continent’s soccer administration. Rating:***

Bonfere Jo: Yes, he understands the Nigerian FA politics, but does he still have the technical prowess to handle a psychologically demoralised team? I think not. Rating:*

Sven Goran Eriksson: Only learnt a few hours ago that he dropped in his resume with the NFF. I really don’t think he qualifies as a “world class” coach. A foreign coach? Yes! But definitely not a “world class” coach. He did not have a particularly successful time with the English national team, and his time with Mexico was woeful! His best periods are well behind him, during his time at Italian giants Lazio. His current “charity work” with Notts County, an English League 2 club, best describes the level of demand placed on him. Rating:*

Ratomir Dujkovic: His ability to navigate “harsh” terrains would no doubt count well for the Serbian tactician. He has been in Venezuela and Myanmar achieving modest success before coming into Rwanda and giving the country a name on the African soccer scene. He qualified the Wasps to their first African Nations Cup in 2004, knocking out Ghana from the qualifying race. His team performed well at the tourney held in Tunisia, where they almost made it through to the quarter-final stage.

He moved to Ghana that same year, where he helped the team qualify for the 2006 World Cup. But the Serbian has a game plan that would not appeal well to Nigerians. His formation takes on a sedentary form, always waiting to absorb pressure from the opponents and hitting them on the break. Nigerians do not want another Amodu, so they might not like the Serbian. However, Dujkovic knows how to play the politics of African soccer federations and he would really appeal to the NFF. Bad for Nigerian football if you ask me! Rating:****

Peter Taylor: Are you kidding me? Rating: No way!

chuckvyl:
Well,it never stops to amaze me the way Nigerians think.I think our problem could be traced to poverty and  poor education.Nigerians attach sentiments to most political and financial issues.Don't get offended guys.But i shall explain.Some people here are comparing Bank CEOs to politicians in terms of 'sitting tight'.What a shame.
Well,banks are private companies guys.It is a privately owned company hence CEOs should be determined by shareholders' votes.As a matter of fact,i expect the banks to challenge this in court.This is dictatorial in nature.CBN should not dictate to the shareholders how long they intend to keep a CEO.As a private company,Zenith bank is similar to Dangote Group PLC.Most of those guys who are CEOs are the majority shareholders in the banks.Removing them with this new CBN regulation is similar to asking Dangote to quit as Chairman of Dangote Group.Because both of them are private companies and not government run companies.Reason this critically before you comment.This new CBN law is a shame.It means that  Jim Ovia cannot be appointed  as CEO of another bank(by shareholders' vote) just because he has served 10 years at Zenith.Ovia has lots of experience in the banking industry.In developed countries people like him are well sought after.A bank that needs his experience should be free to appoint anybody as their CEO.You must not have been a staff of a bank to be appointed as CEO guys.The current CEO of Citi Group was never a staff of Citi Group.This is a draconian law from CBN.There is nothing ethically wrong with a family  run bank.We need sound bank policies and regulation Sanusi.This will have no positive effect   on the banking industry.

At least some people still have sense in Nigeria. Though the analogy of Dangote might not have been the best, the conclusions drawn are spot on.

naijaking1:
There's no need to set a limit on bank CEOs, their tenure should be determined by the shareholders' interests and ability to work hard, make profit, and move the industry forward. What's next in Sanusi's arsenal of regulations? Limits on how much each person ought to have in his bank account? The downward slide of our financal sector continues

Please tell them o! A company owned by a group of people decide to appoint an experienced person as their oga. Why should CBN disallow it? I personally don't like Ovia and Elumelu for my own reasons and maybe i should be happy. But I am not. Because whats wrong is wrong. It has no long term benefit to our banking industry.

Mumbai? Rio? When you tell a Nigerian " Hey! Your House is dirty. Clean it up" he immediately tells you " Why are you disturbing me? Look at that house , and that other house. They are as dirty as mine".

did this american guy say anything that is not true ?? any lie in his observations ??

Any Governor who can clear Oshodi and make the Agege Motor Road motorable deserves this award.

Some might say "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king". But I say "In the land of the blind, who else deserves to be king?".

He has achieved so much without calling the press to open a inaugurate a new community borehole. He has done things without making a fuss about it. I believe it is a foregone conclusion that the government shout provide basic facilities. Its not something to shout or boast about. And Fashola does not shout or boast about it.

Chei!!
Nigerians can be very gullible. I didn't even have to do any research to KNOW this cannot be Babangida's house. The palm trees and sky outside depicts anywhere but Minna, Niger State. If una see minna picture una no go know whats more? the house is soooo impersonal. nothing to soothe the ego of a megalomaniac like IBB. No portraits of him or his wife on the wall. And u don't need to search the internet too hard to find out where this house is located. carlifornia.

Like Someone said, "The CBN is doing the right thing the VERY wrong way". Misinformation (or the lack of complete information) breeds insinuations. If Sanusi had done things properly (e.g Completed the audit of all banks before taking any action, published its findings, respected the rule of law instead of hounding people with EFCC before any evidence was presented) all the conspiracy theories would have lacked any hint of credibility. As it is now, knowing the Nigeria we live in, nobody can categorically say Sanusi has no hidden agenda. Imagine admittedly going around the world 'hawking' these banks to prospective buyers without due process or consultations with shareholders.

Something tells me anybody who has N1Million (or N10 Million for that matter) to give is no fool.

Extra Ripe. almost rotten. soft and sticking together. eat it with rice or beans. thats the closet anyone can get to heaven here on earth.

I wonder what the fuss was all about in the first place. Will it make anybody happy to see a 67 year old man flying 4-5 days a week for most of the year with each days flight muddled by hours upon hours of connecting flights and airport waiting time?

Depends on what you mean by musician. I assume you mean instrumentalists. From what i know, most musicians do nothing else than play instruments. Many of them are not employed anywhere else. Many of them spend hours everyday (time you will not get if you work in an organisation) rehearsing. So why shouldn't they be paid? For many of them, the church they play in is the only employment they know. I know it would be ideal for them to play their instruments as a service to God like members of their choir. And many of them do. But we do not live in a n ideal world. There are many people who can play the instrument but do not take it as a profession but as a hobby. They are not professionals and there's so much we can expect from them. Apart from exceptional cases, these non-professional instrumentalist are not as good as the professionals. I submit that any church that requires or desires a professional musician should expect to pay for it.

If you allow a terrorist to use you as a human shield, you deserve to die. If you allow rockets to be fired into another sovereign country from your backyard, you deserve to die. If you vote a terrorist organisation into power because they built a hospital you deserve what comes to you. if you allow bomb making factory in your sons school or in your tenants flat you deserve the consequence.

It was because Israel wanted to avoid as much civilian casualty as possible that they waited EIGHT YEARS before attacking. Did you notice Israel has not been bombing indiscriminately (unlike Hamas rockets)? Every bomb has a specific target. Those killed are ONLY Hamas Militants and their human shield. 400 militants killed as against 100 civilians. Indiscriminate bombing would have killed more civilians. Hamas rockets on the other hand have ONLY killed Israeli civilians.

Lets face it. There can never be peace with Hamas. Its not a possibility. Their ONLY reason for existence is the annihilation of Israel. How can there be peace?

Maurie Iwu is an Icon Of Shame. If he was my father, I'll disown him. Even if we were not related, and my last name was Iwu, I'll change it. If he was from my village I'll claim my mothers home town. If he was my neighbour, I'll sell my house. If i worked with him, i'll resign and start selling pure water. Its better to live alone in Siberia than be associated in anyway with Maurice Iwu.

Pssssssssssst! (Thats a Hiss, by the way). See pot sacking kettle because its black. Its only when the president and his executive council sacks themselves that I will know we have a remote possibility of moving forward.

Its so sad that i can immediately think of any story that deserves to be written on this thread. It shows how virtue-empty our society has become. _{(or is it me whos life is surrounded by virtueless people)}

First question i asked myself was "who are the Nigerians involved? Who are the Nigerians that have amassed so much money that they are willing to spend 350,000,000 pounds sterling on an investment that probably would never make a profit(ask roman abramovich)?" The answer? Nigerians who have corruptly and criminally enriched themselves from the coffers of the government. So why should such Nigerians bother about metro lines and IPP's? or road networks and railways? or the Nigerian league? If they hadn't stolen our money, all these badly needed infrastructures would be on ground. So let them buy Newcastle United for 400 million pounds. At least Mike Ashley will make 270 Million pounds profit. The English press will sell more papers. The club and its fans at St. James' park will get more players. At least if Nigerians cant enjoy their money, let someone apart from the thieves enjoy it. Maybe Obafemi martins will get an increased paycheck. Looking forward to the Nigerian consortium going bankrupt.

The best James Bond ever depends on your view of who 007 is supposed to be. If you want the original Bond as created by Ian Flemming brute violent rough area boy type, then surely only daniel craig qualifies. However, if you love the Bond we've all come to know and love, the charismatic, classy guy with lots of libido and panache. The one who feels at home in high society. the cosmopolitan guy at home in bruseels and budapest, then surely its a fight between sean connery and pierce brosnan. sean nicks it, but only just. Roger more was just too ordinary. Tim dalton was definitely the worse. George lazenby doesnt count cos he's bond wasn't done by the same guys that did the others.

All in all this is the order.
1. Sean Connery
2. Pierce Brosnan
3. daniel Craig
4. Roger Moore
5. Timothy Dalton
6. Oh well, George watshisname?

Can someone pls tell me when the short form of "I AM" changed from "I'M" to simply "AM"? Last time i checked, "I am going to work" shortened to "I'm going to work" not "Am going to work" like most nigerians including ALL our newspapers seem to think.

What a great topic. I have enjoyed every post because of the sincere comments.
This is a delicate issue and only Gods guidance can give us true direction.
KunleOshob has made some salient points that most of us 'Church going Christians' seem not to realise. First and foremost, Christianity is a personal relationship with God. Anything that can stand between you and that relationship is a problem. And yes going to church can stand between you and that personal relationship. We all go to church expecting some refreshing, something awesome. but most of the time it just ends up as one routine. trust me i know. No matter the church. No matter what part of the gospel they emphasize (prosperity, holiness, or whatever) you end up feeling its the same old thing. Thats why the church is having almost no impact on the national life of Nigeria. its because we all think going to church on sunday is what its all about. And them pastors dont help matters. Most only tell half truths (either deliberately or they only know half truths). They dont encourage Berean-like noble christians who will check if those things they say are actually so. If you take time out from church and spend time alone with God you will understand what i mean. You tend to get more revelation relevant to you from personal study than from church preaching. The pastor who will preach actually got the message from personal study and so can you. You also find out that after you spend time in personal study, some messages preached in church will not appeal to you (e.g. die by fir prayers)

That said however, going to church is important as long you realise its not what makes you a Christian. It can help in keeping you a christian. The bible says iron sharpeneth iron. I go to church a lot. Maybe because i am involved in a dept. in church but i tend to be in church for most programmes. However, i wont pretend i get spiritually uplifted in every service. But i do know that the work i do helps someone's faith. So i dont go to church as much for myself as for my fellow brethren. I remember one time we noticed a lady always coming to chuirch monday evenings to listen to our rehearsals. We later found out our singing gives her strength to face her marriage at home. Someone else changed his mind about commiting suicide after listening to our rehearsals.
And now and then you hear a word in church that just encourages you or gives you strength. a word you just know is God speaking to you. For me it happens a lot lot more often these days since we got a new parish pastor. I love church. I understand what Gamine is saying and i feel like that sometimes (I haven't been in church since sunday unlike me) but as long as i know God has a purpose for my going to church, i'll keep going.

John Hagee? I thot he was a politician.

I have heard this one before. Yes, God is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnibenevolent. But He is also a God of Justice. When you insert His righteousness and Hustice into the equation, you see you no longer can prove His non existence.

This is what i'll say.

My Grandfather is a superior Evangelist in Cele and has been in Europe for over 30 years. My entire maternal (?) family are all cele members here and in Europe.

In the mid 90's my grandfather came and talked and talked about why i refused to attend cele. Then i was just a christian by name without any knowledge of Gods word. Any way after so many talks, he carried me to the cele parish closest to our house. we met a 'wolly' who my grandfather tod to do a small 'ishe' for me. Not for any specific problem, but so i can be covered. So the bros did some prayer with plenty 'mimo' and sighs and holy angel calling and told me what to do. He gave me A very big bottle of perfume, 4 bars of imperial leather soap tied with some palm fronds and seven candles. Told me to say certain prayers into my bath water morning and night and pour the perfume into it before my bath for seven days. The seven candles were to be burned one every night for seven days with certain prayers and psalms read. When i am going to any important place i shoul use the perfume. Suffice to say i didn't obey any one of the instructions. and i thank God.

@ Justcool
What OLAADEGBU wrote was an explanation of the christian concept of being born again. And since it is a christian concept, he used a christian explanation. All you need to do is read Hebrews 9: 1-28 for better understanding.

I was reading through this thread and someone comments caught my attention. The person was of the opinion that Pastor Adeboye was being revered by his members like God. And immediately, two stories came to my mind. Two stories that i heard Pastor Adeboye told members of his church about mistakes he has made. Mistakes he made nota long time ago, but recently. And how God 'dealt' with him. I believe he told these stories to show that he is only human. That he is not perfect. He too, gets it wrong sometimes. Why am i saying this? Most people doubt all that has been said because they seem too far fetched. The unbeliever doesnt believe and i dont blame them. The things of God are like foolishness to the carnal mind. Some people however believe these things are possible.They believe God can actually perform such miracles, but their subconscious minds equates such spectarcular miracles with the days of Elijah, Jesus and Paul. But James said in his letter[b]"James 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months."[/b] And Jesus said in Mark 16:17 and 18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
So if a man like Adeboye and so many others believe these things and these things come to pass, why begrudge them? The only difference between us and these people is that they have sought after God, sacrificed for God, spent time with God, consencrated and sanctified themselves to God, and God is coming through for them. There will always be a difference between somebody who spends 5 hours in sincere prayers to God and somebody who spends 30 mins. There will always be a difference between somebody who says " it doesnt matter" to everythin whether it looks like sin or not and someone who flees from every appearance of evil whether its evil or not. The difference is seen in what God accomplishes through these people.

Hi Jagoon, was about leaving the office when i saw this.

Finally we are getting somewhere.

The verse i quoted if from chapter 7. the one u quoted if from chapter 5. the significance? read verse 1 of chapter 7. I cor 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. There is every indication here that Paul had finished dealing with the issues raised earlier. Thats why he starts with 'now'. Here we are dealing with immorality/fornication apart from the one in chapter 5 verse 1.

You said So that passage you quoted could actully mean " instead of sleeping with other people's wives or commiting other sexual immoralities as having multiple sexual partners, go and marry a wife so that all your sexual desires can be met." . I disagree. Because verse 8 and 9 says I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn or if i paraphrase "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I( i.e stay without sexual relations). But if they cannot contain(i.e hold body) , let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

In other words, if you cannot hold body (stay without sex), marry. Marriage is the only thing that authorises you to have sex.