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No prizes for guessing which one is the original and which one the photocopy.
Thanks, Pilgrim.

Anybody remember His Holiness The Most Honourable Rev Dr King?
Ever heard of 'Prophetic Pastor' So and So?
How about Superior Senior Evangelist?
I wonder when ordinary Pastor became inadequate.

And in addition why do so many pastors in Lagos find it neccesary to change their names? I have heard of one Rev. Dr. Sign Fireman. There is one Apostle Bethel too.

darfur and maxsiollun have actually analysed this issue completely. Yes the Ibos were wronged. Yes the Ibos were provoked. Profoundly so. Yes at that time (1967) seccesion seemed like the best option.However, time has told us Ojukwu (and his cabinet) were wronged. There was no way he could have won the war. A leader would have unemotionally looked at the situation and bidded his time. War was not the ebst option. He should nahe played the international politics better. He could have forced Nigeria into a loose federation that would have favoured everybody. There would have been no need for all this Niger Delta agitations and militants. He would have gained the respect of all Nigerians and not just some Ibo people (and Frederick Forsyth)
This doesnt take away from the man. He was a brilliant soldier. A charismatic leader.
And (back to the topic) diplomacy demands he be addressed as General whether he was a general in the Nigerian Army or not. The General Lee Example suffices. Lee was not a General in the Union (United States of America) army but Everybody addresses him as General Lee. Ojukwu should be addressed as General.

Just discovered this new guy: DeWayne Woods and his crew 'When Singers Meet' their debut album rocks.

And can anyone make sense of Luv2talk's post up there?

Because life tastes oh so much sweeter with kids.

@Poster
Na them tell you abi na you tell dem? The only ones i sure say na igbo are
MIchael Jackson, Busta Rhymes, O.J Simpson, and Mike Tyson.
TD Jakes fit be ibo sha. See the bia bia be like pete edochie.
For the rest?
Ice Cube is Urhobo by virtue of his resemblance to Ibori
Queen Latifah is pure Ogbomoso girl. Iya Pati. See the name sef.
Jill Scott is from Isale Eko
Johnny Gill is from Niger Delta. Pure Militant.
Brandy is Fulani. No question.
Missy Elliot is a bini girl. Check the craze.
Vivica Fox is Calabar. Cant you see how homely she looks?
Anita Baker is hausa from Kaduna South. See the 'tiro' for her eye?

I'll be back with the genealogy of the others

I have noticed a lot of posters on the streets and highways of Lagos in the past few days announcing one Anointing for the New Year Night Vigil with pictures of His Holiness, The Most Honourable Rev Dr King. Has the guy been quietly released from death row behind our back? Or are they using faith to announce the program?

Its not a new thing o. I'm sure it has happened in many homes.
When we first got married, we had a bed with space at each end. My wife wanted the side close to the door. Me i disagreed saying since it was the vantage point for security (whatever that meant) i should have it. after her lobby, i sha agreed. One year ago, we got a bigger bed with her side now by the wall withy no space. Now she wants my side. Me I say "lai lai! you wanted that side now u have it". But i know if she puts small pressure sha she will get my side.

Its just psychological. Doesnt really matter what side you sleep on. Whatever it costs, keep peace in the home.

Okay so Ghana redominated. Big deal. If that is the only index used, then Ghana would be a better place than Japan. We have 1 Pound = 212 yen

Nna, which one be dis? I fear fear o. Over title dey worry the guy. E make His Holiness, The Most Honourable Rev. Dr. King look like beginner. And Daddy Hezekiah? First name Daddy, last name Hezekiah abi?

What happens to the people who just decide to have a "church blessing" as it is called?

And I thot "Lord of the Rings" was the height of fantasy. And the Chinese? The Devil created them and forgot to send them to Mars. What will they think next?

Sex IS an important topic that should be discussed. It will always be discussed. The context (and circumstances) within which it is discussed is what matters. despite the trivialisation and perversion of sex in todays world, sex still remains private to most people. I can stand discussions on sex when the intention is good like education, admonition, advise etc. Not when unnecesary details are inputed or when it is told as a joke. But i dont believe people married or unmarried should shy away from the topic. It is very difficult to be fulfilld in marriage without an understanding of sex.
As far as initials go I fall into VR

Last time i checked God was not stationary. He is Omnipresent. He is everywhere. It don't matter where you're facing; He hears you. I don't know what kind of God you serve sha. he only hears in one direction.

mdsocks:
There's nothing in the Kaaba.

Its just a symbol of unity.

We face the kaaba to pray, so as not to cause confusion.

You can imagine what will happen ,if someone is facing north and am facing east while praying.

I tried to imagine. I couldn't. What will heppen?

Religion is important in Relationship and Marriage. Most people do not understand that marriage is as much a spiritual union as it is physical. You can have an eternal union with someone who has different spiritual views from yours. It just wont work. A Christian who believes Jesus is the only way to God cannot marry a Bhuddist who believes something else or a Muslim who believes that Jesus was just a prophet. It just wont work.

However denomination isn't that important as long as your fundamental beliefs are the same. A Christian who believes in God and the concept of Trinity, who believes in the redemptive work of Christ on the cross of calvary and a future in Heaven can marry any other christian with the same beliefs. I know so many. I know friends from Redeemed who have married people from denominations as diverse as deeper life, house on the rock, daystar and rhema.

@ Poster.
So you would have been happier if International Observers had used the same harsh words used on Nigeria on Kenya. In other words you just dont want Nigeria to occupy that position of Infamy alone abi? The bottom line is Nigeria (Like Kenya) had elections that would make the word 'democracy' sound insulting.
Imagine! we are fighting for other countries to be called 'shit' like we were called.

@Bobbyaf
Why don't we extend your logic on benz and Corrolla a little further. Instead of buying a Corolla why not get a Kia Picanto. Its Cheaper. Or Why not a motorbike. Its cheaper and you can still move around. Or a bicycle. Why not just walk.

Quote from Mr. Pataki
I only speak based on my understanding of the bible and the life Jesus lived. When Jesus had 5000 men with him on the mount, he fed them for free!. He did not think of building an auditorium to comfortably sit them in.  There are already auditoriums across the nation which can be easily used for any religious activity. Rather each church wants its own share of I have the biggest auditorium in the country.

I have not seen where Christians are gathering here in Nigeria and they are all fed with food accordingly after the message. Most especially when they come in their thousands. Jesus understood the people were not hungry for an auditorium after speaking the words of the the Father but rather they wanted food. Many people will go to that auditorium with hunger in their stomach, only to go back home the more frustrated.

First, there is really no auditorium big enough to hold the crowd that comes to the Redeemed camp. Thats why a new auditorium was built in the first place. Its not about everybody having their own auditorium; its about meeting a practical need.

Secondly, during the convention of the Redeemed Church I know EVERYBODY that comes gets fed. Everybody. except if you do not want.

More names

Progress,
Prosper
Perpetual (pronounced Perpetwa).
The name Justus has become the name Justice in Warri.
Miracle.
Ever heard of Thank God? Yes its true. They named the child 'Thank God ' in their native Isoko language and for an English name they just decided to translate the name to English.
The name Goodluck shouldn't be a suprise.
Names like Romanus, Epiphanus and all the -Uses i can understand since they are catholic names. But hey, my fathers people ( the Ilaje's, just open the old testament , check out one of the genealogies and pick a name. Know any Obadiah's? (Pronounced Obadya)

Debosky (Like some other objective commentators) have written a sensible post. He clearly delineated the core issues people have against the building. 1. The money is too much 2. The building is too large.

The fact still remains that the building is neccesary. Anybody that has been to the place will tell you the building is neccesary. And with the way things are going there might be a need for expansion in say 2-3 years. Thats why the auditorium has no walls. Just roof and floor. And if a building of this size is neccesary can we then begin to calculate how much it might cost? And if its truly N7.7b, how can we then say it is waste of money? The church is using her money to build do something that is neccesary. Wetin come be the wahala?

Ok, here goes.

Difference: My youngest sisters classmate those days in warri
Jubilee: My pal those same warri days
Market: the shortend it to mark
Lawyer, Governor, all these are first names.
Lets not forget Monday, Tuesday, friday, saturday, sunday

More to come

I like Huckabee a lot. He's gained on the polls in the last month or so. Though something tells me He's being promoted to cut Giuliani's lead.

Thot this thread would be dead by now. was away for the weekend. spent friday night at the much talked about auditorium. Half of the place is still just stanctions (Hope i spelt it right) and no floor. Whats the fuss all about??

@Seun. Did U read Runsaway's post upstairs?

Where's the second song?

COME LETS PRAISE THE LORD - PANAM PERCY PAUL

Come lets praise the Lord (Come lets praise the Lord)
Come lets praise the Lord (Come lets praise the Lord)
He is Jehovah (Tell the world of His faithfulness)
He is El-Shaddai (Tell the world of His salvation)
Spread the news around (Tell the world of his praise)
Come lets praise the Lord (Praise the Lord)

For ever and ever my God He is the same
He'll never Change
From eternity to eternity
He'll be my God

Praise Him!Praise Him!!

Praise Him the Lord of Lords, Jehovah

Hope this really helps _{(Unlike Jerrymania above)}

Thanks Runsaway. Without taking a minute to look at the situation that brought about the auditorium, they just hear N7b and 'largest auditorium' and their minds translated it to mean one large luxurious cathedral. When they get there they will be shocked at the simplicity of the place. Just has the bare neccecities. And by the time they do some calculations like you did, they'll realise their mistakes. Some already have and haven't posted anything again.

@ Realkemmy
The Auditorium is in Nigeria

@Texazzpete
"At the very least, building such a magnificent edifice is misguided. we can already see redeemed members here proudly remarking that they have the biggest auditorium in the world"

Don't go around with a mindset of a "magnificent edifice" in the mould of St. Peters Bassilica. Like i said, it is just roof and floor. The bare neccesities to accomodate people during a meeting. Simple. And if it is the biggest auditorium in the world its because of neccesity. Obviously the largest auditorium will be needed to accomodate the largest gathering. Its common sense.

This topic was only started yesterday and already 3 pages. Me, I'm just seeing it.
I think a lot of things have to be put into perspective since most of the contributors seem to be from outside Nigeria and have a few things mixed up.
First, the auditorium being talked about is not as much an auditorium as a structure with roof and floor. It is not a cathedral with walls, cushioned seats and air conditioning. The wind blows in and people sit on plastic chairs and wooden benches.I dont think it was about 'showing off' with one luxurious house of worship. It is anything but luxurious.
Second, the auditorium came up to meet a need. During redeemed programmes, Hundreds of thousands of people have no place to sit because the auditorium meant to sit Hundreds of thousands of people is full before the program starts. Lots of people have to sit in their cars throughout these programmes.
Third, That a huge amount was spent doesnt mean the church is not socially responsible. There are scholarships for thousands of people every year. That these things are not announced on TV as people expect doesnt mean it is not happening.
Finally, the traffic on the expressway is unfortunate. However, when you have some 600,000 people leaving a place at the same time, all leaving thru one expressway, theres just so much that can be done. It has nothing to do with parking space. There is adequate parking space. Imagine 50-60,000 cars crossing one expressway at the same time. its a logistics nightmare.

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