₦airaland Forum

If they can abolish the senate then any group that want states can be given but if states are all equally represented in the senate and the FEC, then the NW and the SW are being cheated seriously.

MadamExcellency:
How do you document pikin wey dey born for bush, 50 km to Local Government Area?

The same way they ensure they get vaccines and etc.

Who created the global world?.

Credit must always be given to whom it is due. It was the Portuguese through the Christopher Columbus voyage that globalized the world. Before Christopher Columbus, the old world and the new world were separate worlds akin to two civilizations on two different planets. Of course there were fleets that may have reached the other side from either side in the past and even returned but they did not establish a permanent connection and trade. The Vikings of Northern Europe were said to have reached the Americas and a fleet from Mali commanded by the elder brother of Mansa Musa was also said to have left Mali to never return but none of them can be credited for creating a global world. The credit goes to the Portuguese just like the credit for the industrial era goes to England.

femisplash:
Bro, there's something called documentation, it exists for a reason. Even when you're born within the Nigerian territory, you're required to be documented right at your birth place, much less, neighboring countries.

You are right. If it is done by all countries then it can be secure because double registration will be traceable.

6000 is inconsequential. There is no way to stop Nigerien Hausa or Beninoise Yoruba from mixing with Nigerians.

GDP is about production and consumption. The Nigerian economy is the biggest in Africa because consumption and production is by population and not by any other thing. We have up to 70 million workers in Nigeria and 230 million consumers. No African country can beat that.

New odus of IFA February 7 2025.


Oyeku Irete

Islam is a religion of peace.

This was the IFA cast for the good natured Muslim who said violent Muslims are fake Muslims. He trained his children and they veered off to become terrorists.

He was advised to sacrifice.
He listened but he did not comply.
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!.
If you are a moderate religionist, your children might become fanatical terrorists.

Obara Irete
You can only cure madness with another variety of madness.

This was the IFA cast for them at Ogbomoso when the existence of their city and culture was being threatened by jihadists from the Northern direction and they ran to the Baptist mission for cover.
They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied
Before a long time, meet us where we are celebrating victory like Ogun at the feet of Obarisa

Story

Nineteenth century Ogbomosho was established to guard the Northern territory of Oyo after the fall of Oyo ile to Ilorin. Ijaiye was to check Dahomey while Ibadan was to subdue the rest of the Yoruba gradually.
Ogbomosho would not be able to do its job well if the spread of Islam among the indigenes was not checked. The government therefore went to the Baptist mission to come and set up shop in the city and the city subsequently became majority Christian.


Osa irosun

If it can not be questioned, it can be misunderstood

This was the IFA cast for the believers in a holy book who will always break up into numerous sects that do not see eye to eye.

They were advised to sacrifice
They listened but they did not comply
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
The world can never be united by religions because of their holy books!

Otura Ose

Only Allah must be worshipped

This was the IFA cast for the Muslims who joyfully accepted Islam and said they will worship only Allah and none of the other hardworking deities.
They were advised to sacrifice
They listened but they did not comply
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
If you worship only Allah and none of the other hardworking deities, you are only one step removed from atheism.


Odi irosun
Big things are started small

This was the IFA cast for the church founder who started as one individual and ended up as a mega institution with more revenue than a sovereign state.

Ogunda Obara

It came to bridge the gap between God and man seamlessly

This was the IFA cast for traditional spiritualities and shared to religion which is an invasive form of spirituality when coming from heaven to Earth to contest for human patronage.

They were advised to sacrifice.
It was only traditional spiritualities that listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
It is only traditional spiritualities that connects man to God without hassles!. Religions are made to set men against each other.


Otura Oyeku

I am the holy and unchangeable word of God.

This was the IFA cast for the Bible and shared to the Quran when they were coming from heaven to Earth.
They were advised to sacrifice.
They listened and complied.
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!.
The believers of a holy book must never question the holy book.

Obara Ofun
Life is everlasting from incarnation to incarnation for those doing good


This was the IFA cast for the person pursuing a dream who knows that his next incarnation will be pursuing the same dream and that the dream will never die.

He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
Life is everlasting from incarnation to incarnation for those doing good!.
They will never be knocked out of civilization

Odi Osa

I have to line up behind what is popular.

This was the IFA cast for the political leader who does IFA divination in private but professes religion in the public space because it is popular.



Ogbe Oturupon
A farmer will always tend to his farm.

This was the IFA cast for the ancestors who must align with their children on Earth even if those ones are followers of Jesus Christ or Mohammed.

They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied.
On looking people of Po and Offa!
Just as farmers have to tend to their farms, the ancestors also have to tend to their children on Earth.

The origin of religion

Two thousand years ago, there was nobody on Earth trying to convert people away from their culture. They abided by the common sense that says culture is a complete package that comes with theology, language and etc. All cultures contained those who could be called idolatrous or non idolatrous. Then came Apostle Paul a leader of a sect of Judaism called Nazarene who were later rechristened Christians in the Hellenistic town of Antioch. He started admitting Gentiles into the sect and the world has not recovered ever since.

IfnobeGod20:
They don't use land mass to create state. Federating unit don't work that way. In a federating nation, there must be regional balance to foster unity and coexistence.

The SE has most states per capita presently. Going by population, NW and SW should have like three times the number of states SE has because number of states determine number of senators, ministers and federal presence. I believe all demands for states or mergers should be met and the way to do it is to agree to dissolve the senate. However the best thing is for the country to just disintegrate. We will keep working for that.

IFA is the opposite of religion.

IFA is not a religion but a means of communicating with your spirit and your spirit can liaise with other spirits to get any information for you. It is the most powerful tool on Earth. It is also true for all divination tools. I can use IFA for instance, to reconstruct history, read secret letters and etc. IFA can leak to you the plans of your enemies and etc. IFA is science and science is the opposite of religion.
All traditional spiritualities (and we have over seven thousand on Earth) use one form of divination or the other to seek help from the other realm and they don't condemn unbelievers to damnation. They are scientific and that is why they can not be classed together with Christianity and Islam as religions. Religion because of holy books that can not be peer reviewed is the opposite of science.
The worst an IFA priest can do is to warn you of dire consequences if you do not do the prescribed ebo after your readings and who goes to seek for help from priests without money in his or her pocket?.

If you want more states to be created, what you need to fight for is the abolition of the senate.

The list is not complete. My old friend, Mr Lekan Babalola the percussionist is not there

RedboneSmith:
The vast majority of Yorubas who were landed in the Americas between the 1600s and the 1800s were, in fact, slaves. Atakunmosa never lived in Brazil. There’s no shred of tradition that says he ever left the coast of Nigeria. His name suggests that he was familiar with the lagoon area (which is not strange, given that he was known to be a protege of the Benin State which in that time had some control and influence along the coast). But thats where it ends. He never got on a ship and sailed to Brazil. Calm down. Take it easy with the fabrications.

The survival of Yoruba culture in the Americas is easily explanable.

First, the Yoruba people were one of the few peoples in Tropical Africa to develop religious institutions that were “universalist” and non-parochial, and thus could be exported across cultural lines. In the multicultural atmosphere of the Afro-American world, these institutions could thus outcompete the institutions of groups like the Igbo, Akan, Mende, which were much more parochial.

There are other factors, such as the average age of Yoruba slaves. Many were adults, victims of the 19th century Yoruba wars. Adults are better able to carry and propagate their culture than children.

It is only basic common sense to deduce that many Yorubas settled in the Americas as free men as there are records of Benin and Warri princes that schooled in European universities centuries ago. It does not apply to Yoruba culture alone but also to Angolan culture, only that Yoruba is more.

Whether the majority that landed before the nineteenth century were slaves or not may be up for debate but a large number surely landed as free men. Then the Yoruba did not suffer that much from slavery until the nineteenth century during the wars.
The purpose of the article is to point out the fact that the Yoruba culture did not happen in the Americas because of slavery. If all the Yoruba had landed as slaves there would be no culture to speak of today. The people that established the culture were free men.

Ojuntana:
You say wetin?
Rome was reputed to have a population of about 450k
Egypt had over a million people
Athens had 300k people
Beijing had over 1.6m population in ancient times
Even Oyo had over 60k population

I said there was hardly. I did not say there was none. Oyo had over 200k and was the largest in Africa during its time.

Ojuntana:
Wrong!! You can only claim 50k as a city where you have high population density in the region of 1500 per square metre

Most of those places are large so 50k will be relatively sparse

A city usually starts from a population of 500k upwards

Nowadays it may not be suitable but in the olden days it was okay. There was hardly any city in the world containing 500k people 250 years ago. Then even nowadays, a settlement of 50k people can not be ruled by everybody together. They must have a sophisticated central government. 50k is not a small population.

Why did the Yoruba culture survive in the Americas?.

It is largely because the vast majority of the Yorubas that crossed the Atlantic ocean before the nineteenth century did not land in the Americas as slaves. Most were noble men or aristocrats. The Owa Obokun Atakunmosa of Ijesa in the sixteenth century lived in Brazil for years before returning to become King. Chief Oshodi Tapa of Lagos was as at the late nineteenth century going back and forth to Brazil on behalf of the King of Lagos. The main empire that used the slave coast and prospered from the slave trade was the Oyo empire. They dealt in mainly Northern west African Muslims and some other rivals of theirs including Yoruba kingdoms. The Yoruba aristocrats went back and forth to Europe and America. It was when the trade spiked in the late nineteenth century that majority of the cargo was Yoruba and traders also paid highest for Yoruba for many reasons.
Therefore Yoruba culture survived in the Americas, not because it was special but because of the same reason European cultures survived in the Americas which is because the founders were free men.


Olu Atorongboye

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olu_Atorongboye

Ojuntana:
Exactly my point
None of those places could ever pass as cities
Best could be villages or settlements
None of those places could boast of a population of 200k people

50k is enough to qualify as a city

Ojuntana:
What kind of lie is this
Which city existed in that is called Nigeria now before the advent of colonialism?
Or you don't know what a city is?

A city is to do with population. There have been cities on Earth for thousands of years. A city must also have a sophisticated government and etc.

Ojuntana:
This is rubbish
Anyone who believes the figures here needs a brain transplant
You claim that north has 19m and the west 7m but Ibadan and Lagos alone have more population than all the major northern states mentioned.

This can only be believed by the unintelligent mind

Yoruba's have traditionally lived in cities for thousands of years while others lived in villages. When the British came, eighty.percent of Nigerian cities were on Yoruba land

New Odus of IFA, February 2 2025.



Otura Obara

Worship does not harm anybody

This was the IFA cast for the real God outside holy books who is not a jealous God.

He was advised to sacrifice
He listened and complied.
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
The true father God is a gentleman and not a jealous God.


Story
If your Earthly parents or political leader will not ask you to reverence only them, then the same applies to the God almighty who is the father of all.

Eji Ogbe

You see this one you bow down
You see that one you bow down
There is something funky about idolatry.

This was the IFA cast for the children of the irunmales whose relationship with the creations of Olodumare will always and forever be smooth.
They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
Hardly can the children of irunmales be at logger heads with anyone or any spirit.


Ika Irosun

Beauty and comeliness can pave the way.

This was the IFA cast for the beautiful and elegant damsel who got married to the wealthiest man in town.

She was advised to sacrifice
She listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!.
A young woman’s beauty can pave the way for her.

Ogunda Okanran

Religions are also idolatrous

This was the IFA cast for the Muslim who crossed oceans and mountains to go and kiss the Kabba.

Ogbe Owonrin

A poverty stricken man can be desirable for marriage because of other qualities.

This was the IFA cast for the man who got married to a very desirable woman without having money.
He was asked to sacrifice
He listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!.
It is not only money and affluence that women are attracted to.

Story

There are many paths to getting married. With good character etc, a man can have many women jostling to marry him even as he is struggling financially. A well to do man might be interested in marrying off his daughter to an employee or younger friend of moderate means and etc. Therefore to be eligible for marriage as a man, be of good character while working hard at whatever post you find yourself. It also applies to ladies.


Oyeku Ofun

A good head on a body safeguards the whole body.

This was the IFA cast for the nation that was not damaged by invasive spiritualities (religions) because it had a conscious leadership.
They were advised to sacrifice
They listened and complied
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
A good head on a body safeguards the whole body.

Story

If a country is led by visionary leaders they would see religion for what it is and reject it for their people but if the leadership is weak, religion will creep in and like a virus it will take over in a matter of time.


Owonrin meji

Poverty through the backdoor!

This was the IFA cast for the nation whose government decided not to tax the majority of citizens

They were advised to sacrifice
They listened but they did not comply
On looking people of Po and Offa!.
If your government decides not to tax the majority, they are brewing poverty for the nation as a whole.


Oyeku Ogbe

If anything is promoted, it will sell

This was the IFA cast for the low quality Nollywood movies of Nigeria that took the world by storm.
It was advised to sacrifice
It listened and complied
On looking people of Po and Offa!
A venture needs promotion more than any other thing.



Irete Oturupon

A sheep that befriends dogs will end up eating poo

This was the IFA cast for Mohammed who remoulded Allah to be a jealous God after listening to the Christians and the Jews
He was advised to sacrifice
He listened but did not comply
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!.
The Allah known to the parents of Mohammed was not a jealous God.

Ogunda Oturupon

We only get involved in activities that are beneficial to us.

This was the IFA cast for the government that did not enforce a high minimum wage because they have nothing to gain from it since low income earners at the base are exempted from paying tax.
They were advised to sacrifice
They listened but they did not comply
Onlooking people of Po and Offa!
Why will a government fix high wages if they have nothing to gain from it?.

Igbos have the highest number of states per capita. The SW and the NW have the lowest and federal projects are cited according to states. The only thing Igbo is missing is Presidency and if Nigeria does not break up they will get it but hopefully the country will break up for everybody to go and develop their land in peace

Yoruba spirituality

Yoruba spirituality is not more than have your IFA at home and when you need spiritual help, approach someone who is a qualified priest in the same way you would approach an artisan to help you solve a problem. The priests in the past were members of the equivalent of modern chartered bodies. A priest would have an Oluwo that was his or her mentor and primary teacher. They rank up to Araba in the IFA Orunmila system. They support and peer review themselves in their meetings, exchange gifts and etc. They are not invasive but reserved and academic. They do not seek to convert anyone. Their sermons never goes beyond saying God abhors evil. If you want knowledge, you have to go after it. Teachers do not chase people around with knowledge as is the case with religions.
As it was in Yoruba land before religion, it also was in every other culture established by God. It is time for everybody to go back to the spiritualities of their ancestors that describes God as a loving, non discriminatory father who is not a jealous one.

The write up does not make sense because there are literally no Okun Muslims.

Ovamboland:
Earning through export is a more respectable source than handouts that makes up most remittances from abroad

Yes of course but people abroad have to support their dependants at home too as they would have been doing if they were here. Then Nigerians at home spend forex too on education, medical tourism and etc. In fact there was one year they said the school fees Nigerians paid in Ghana alone was more than our federal budget for education.

Ancient people were more 'conscious' than modern people.

Looking at it on the pedestal of spirituality, we can conclude that ancient people are more conscious than modern people. They know for instance that people that speak a different language and practice a different culture will automatically have a different spirituality starting from the name of God the father.
Nowadays tens of sects of Islam and Christianity go all over the world trying to convert people with their holy books. They preach condemnation and bad ending for unbelievers. The ancient world did not have such a problem and the people were far more conscious spiritually.

Non oil Exports being talked about are only a small percentage of forex earners. The main forex earner should be remittances.

A ni ka jekuru KO tan lawo, e tun ngbon owo e sawo!. We don't need more religion in Yoruba land, we need less. We don't want Yoruba land to become a place where unbelievers are lynched in broad daylight. We are praying for a future where all properties of religion will be seized by the government and religion is confined to private homes while we return to the traditional spirituality of our ancestors where God is taught to children as the non jealous, non discriminatory and loving father of all.

Much ado about sharia in south west Nigeria.

One thing we all should understand is that we don't need more religion in the public place, we need less. Islam is not capable of adding to any civilization. The Yoruba have been living in cities for over ten thousand years while Islam emerged in the seventh century AD. Islamic law is barbaric because that is the only word to describe a penal code that says the hands of a petty thief be cut off as punishment amongst all its other anomalies.
What we need in Yoruba land and indeed across the world is for religion ie Islam and Christianity to be practiced only in private spaces so that all the bad things that comes with them can abate. Hatred of unbelievers, lynching of unbelievers and spreading of toxic theology that dehumanizes people and etc.
We need to return to the spiritual climate that existed on Earth before the invasive spiritualities of Christianity and Islam were let loose on humanity starting with Christianity in the first century.
We definitely do not need more religion in the public. There is no positive value that invasive spiritualities ie religions have added to human civilization.

Mckary mail me at akinwumilawanson@gmail.com. The old email was hacked and I can no longer access it

When I was a youth corps member in 2006. I bought palm kernel nuts in Eke Avrugo Kogi state where I served and I went to Nsukka to get a lorry to transport it to the refinery in Nsukka but nobody was ready to follow me. They were all complaining of bad road. At the end of the day one man agreed to follow me and he was speaking Igbo to my companion. It was when I got back to Avrugo that my landlady's questioning revealed him as a Yoruba from Osun state. His Yoruba was not very good though.

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