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It is mainly because of the Ifa corpus that Yoruba language is popular. Any Babalawo will have communicational fluency because most of the wisdom of the corpus is still in the language for now and Ifa is being studied in universities all over the world with papers being published. That is the reason. However Yoruba is a big language and people with considerable fluency all over the world should surpass 100 million people and that is major. Even one million people is plenty but the owners of the language should buckle up and protect it from decline on its homeland

It captures the message in my poem about religion 'They would rather burn in hell than get deprogrammed'

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Can anyone genuinely disprove Islam? I've seen people try but it's impossible.
Muslims are brainwashed from birth. They go through some of the most extensive, extreme and utterly creepy levels of brainwashing from the moment they can first understand words into accepting without question this evil cult of islam.

No religion instils the level of brainwashing onto its followers that Islam does.

So the question you should be asking yourself - is there anything that Muslims will accept that will disprove Islam to them?

Non Muslims know Islam is nonsense, as if they didn’t they’d be muslims themselves. There are 8 billion people in the world, 6 billion think Islam is total nonsense. Furthermore of those 6 billion. Nothing is more hated in this world than islam by non followers of it. You ask anyone what is the most hated/evil thing in this world right now and the vast majority would say “islam”.

So 4x more people think islam is evil nonsense than believe it to be true. And those 6 billion have not been brainwashed into thinking its nonsense. They just know it is.

So the question remains, what would it take for a Muslim to accept Islam is nonsense? If you provide scientific errors in the quran. Muslims refuse to accept them. You provide logic errors in the quran. Muslims refuse to accept them. You provide proof Mohammed couldn’t be bothered to follow core aspects of the Quran himself. Muslims refuse to accept this, even though its in Islams sacred scriptures he did this. You provide proof Mohammed was a despicable person, they refuse to even accept that. Even when, once again, its Islam's own sacred scriptures that say these things about him.

The Question Muslims need to ask themselves when they start pondering these questions you have done is what would it take for you to accept Islam is nonsense? As I can guarantee you the answer you will come back with when you do this pondering is “absolutely nothing”. There is nothing Muslims will accept as proof Islam is nonsense.

Even if the skies opened up tomorrow and God came down himself and said, “Islam is nonsense, stop following it, its an evil cult”. You would still get 2 billion people saying stuff like “that wasn’t God it was the devil trying to trick us. Or yes it was God but he was testing our faith in Islam. And other nonsensical excuses.

When you realise that there is nothing you will accept. Then you will realize to yourself that your question was utterly pointless and aimless. Hopefully, that could acheive your first step though. As hopefully when you realize that is how you think, you will come to realize that is proof positive you’ve been somehow brainwashed. And realizing you’ve been brainwashed is your first step to being cured from it.

duro4chang:
The person you are responding to is not all right

Your whole family and loved ones will remain permanently mentally impaired by the grace of God. They will not bring any good thing to conclusion.

laluski:
Shut up, demented kid... Wasted sperm..
If your dad had known, he would poured you inside a condom.. I'm sure he's not aware of your stupidity on nairaland and the disgrace you're bringing into his name.. Merit ko... Deserve ni... Omo jatijati

Aye e o nida o ni se oriire, ofo lo ma se kehin aye e. Asedanu na ni gbogbo e a ma ja SI fun e. O o ni riba tise, o de ni ri ona gbe gba. Radarada rederede na ni WA ma ba Kiri lase Olodumare

Davoneskay:
You are so rude and stupid. You are highly delusional.
My advice: Just use your drugs properly.
I won't dignify you with further response.

You lack home training and also clear reason. May you die wretched and of psychiatric disorder by the grace of God.

Yes the Earth will return to as it was before the invention of Christianity and Islam. It is the end time. THE ENDGAME

Davoneskay:
Dear Lawani,

I want to believe that you hear voices. Do you?

It is also clear to me that your ability to reason clearly is challenged

Maynman:
And at the same time i am omniscience with ifa?

You are lost

Ofun Ika The limit of giving
Ofunkaa
Mo ni Oro Amola
Ta ni an mo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni Ogun Lakaaye ni
Orunmila ni kise Ogun Lakaaye
Ofunkaa
Mo ni oro Amola
Mo ni ta ni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni ija ni
Orunmila ni kiise ija
Ofunkaa
Mo ni oro Amola
Ta ni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni Osun ni
Orinmila ni ki ise Osun
Ofunkaa
Mo ni Oro Amola
Tani a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni Osanyin ni
Orunmila ni kiise Osanyin
Ofunkaa
Mo ni Oro Amola
Ta ni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo wa nda oruko awon irunmale to ku
Orunmila ni ki se gbogbo won
O ni ohun Edu Alajogun ni eni a nmo ti nmu ni la
Mo ni bawo ni emi akapo re SE le la laye ki won gbo ni ode orun
Orunmila ni ki nmu igba amola igba Omi tutu ATI obi meji ki nma fi bo oun
Ela bo ru Ela Bo ye Ela bo sise

Maynman:
Repeating jargons doesn’t make it right.

Your comprehension ability is impaired.

Maynman:
You are delusional and not working on anything.

You are yourself are obviously challenged mentally and can not reason clearly.

Maynman:
I didn’t say that.
I said an omniscience god knows the PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE, he knows who will be in hell before he created them.

He knows everything.
You are the one limiting your god to defend your deity.

You yourself you are omniscient with Ifa and omnipotent as well with iseegun if you learn it. Iseegun is still like Ifa because they use formulas. Therefore you have magic and are therefore omnipotent and omniscient. How much more God?. The existence of magic answers your question. There is no hell. Why would there be hell? You created yourself at the domain of Ajalamopin, so whatever is your destiny was engineered by you.

Lawag3:
Islam is a sect of Christianity guy you are very funny 😂

When did bible tell christians to spread Christianity by the sword?

Then don't be threatened by it since you are not scared.

Where could Mohammed have learnt Bible stories if not from Christians?. Prior to Mohammed only Christians peddled the tale of the virgin birth and a special status for Jesus Christ. Jews don't believe that nonsense. What makes him not a Christian?. He accepted Jesus and believed in the immaculate conception. Bro he was a Christian with his own sect just like Mormons, JW and etc. He was a Christian

Maynman:
Everything that was started by people used facts and evidence to it, they were not just assuming.

What do you mean? I am working with the world powers headed by the US government and I comment on Adeboye's Facebook page with a Top fan status since July last year. Why do I need to doubt information being given to me by global leaders and what I can see by myself? Explain what you mean. My friend in Avrugo is dead. Richard Donald of Abia state is dead etc. Those are real human beings like yourself

9182736455O1999:
I don't know why i find sense in this.
Some part of me is wanting to believe this guy.

Well, you don't have to believe but some of the people murdered by Enoch Adeboye and David Oyedepo are people that see them as holy men. Even if you don't believe, be wary and may you never encounter Adeboye in a tight corner as he is a wild animal

Maynman:
Lawani, everyone is seeing the real you.

It’s getting out of control.

I have never hidden the real me from anybody from infancy. Then everything started by anybody will always get out of control. That is normal. You can only contribute and any attempt to control will be evil. I want things to get out of control

Tyrone34:
This one don craze oooo.

You and your loved ones will end up in the psychiatry permanently

Maynman:
Yes, i don’t know what happened this time 1000 years ago, and i also won’t know what will happen the next 1000 years.

Can a goat make your god is kid?
Is it achievable?

You are lost!

You can mine ANY information with an oracle. You can even invent an oracle and consecrate it and it will be ready for use immediately. I think I did that for the first time as a toddler more or less and the result almost threw me off balance. Then the meaning of magic is omnipotence and omniscience and that should not even be debated

Maynman:
Producing or Knowing “something” does not mean you are omniscience.
Having muscles or making an invention does not mean you are omnipotent.

Magic and technology does not give omnipotence.
Ifa is not like google, Chai
I am not an idol, you said NOTHING.

You are lost!

Are there things you think can not be known?. If there is it means you are not omniscient. Are there things you think can not be achieved?. If there are it means you are not omnipotent. Whatever you can't do now, the missing things are tools

Bubu4Sea:
I don't know how Nigerians still listen to this man, he is Satanic.

This video shows Adeboye is in the occult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_7RflrL2nk

This video shows that adeboye is working for Satan's one world religion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQUol5Z7izI

Thess videos shows that all adeboye wants is money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtdgjCFMxCE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zZWvvaEaY

How he deceived so many people, I don't know

Thank you my brother but Adeboye is not intelligent enough to support one world religion or no religion which was the situation before religion was invented as a fresh avenue or excuse to fight wars and get people killed. The globe will return to that status quo as Christianity and Islam are stamped out very soon

Maynman:
Is the people doing the production, all knowing and all powerful?
Do they know the beginning and end?

Who created the opposition?

Yes if you are producing something you know the end from the beginning. You yourself are omnipotent and Omni scient. IFA is like google. It gives you omniscience. Magic and technology gives you omnipotence. You are God. How much more Olodumare?. The argument is moot

Maynman:
Make things difficult for a omnipotent and omniscience god? 😂😂

If a production that should take three steps is taking ten steps because of opposition then the opposition is making things difficult for the producer. Evil doers are this way to God. People who don't do evil are neutral while those who do good are on God's team

Maynman:
The power he gave to ogbe ofun is part of the novel, he has planned it all from beginning to end.
An omniscience god should not have his plan altered by his creation. That means he is not all knowing, there are somethings he lacks knowledge of, thats why he regrets.

This is simple English.

You can't alter God's plan but you can help God, you can also make things difficult for God. It is your choice Ogbe Ofun

Maynman:
You don’t have free will, who gave you your 2 hands? Your 2 legs? For a reason right?
Who gave you your desires and the weakness to those desire.


If you know the beginning and end, you don’t have to be panicking and making sure it goes to your plan.
You have already set it from beginning to end.

An omniscience god knows exactly how many people will be in hell.

An omniscience god plan is affected by one of his creations 😂

Only the playwright knows how to end his novel and which characters to use for the ending desired but he is also the one who gave power to the undesirable characters Ogbe Ofun. You are small gods too but what you can authour is your next action. Life can be lived forwards only but can only be understood backwards

Maynman:
Church means Circus, Circus in Ancient Greece was a place where followers of Circe performed.

In yoruba ijo does not mean a building.
Your jesus talked about ekklesia which was changed by king james to church, you can’t have control over a congregation but you can have over a church.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgKweu0ZWVs

Is circus not a congregation?. Is a building a congregation?. Ijo can meet in a building but ijo is not a building, ijo is a congregation meaning church

Maynman:
How then can you have freewill if the end has already been determined?

Your free will is not tampered with because if you don't want to do, others will but final outcome for the society remains the same. God will make sure of that. Choose evil or good according to your heart, it does not affect the final outcome planned by God, it affects only the path. Ogbe Ofun

Maynman:
Send me where you read yours.
I can’t see olodumare there.

You should read on the criticism of the theory too.

Olodumare is of course the Invisible hand, the Invisible authority over everything. The one who knows the end from the beginning, who is always benevolent. If you are secretly doing evik, you will fall into the trap of Olodumare. If you want to do evil, do it in the open

Maynman:
Church means Circus.

Look up the origin of the word.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiJGPRHkjgI

Church is the European equivalent of the Yoruba ijo. It means congregation and it is an appropriate word for any congregation even academic congregation. A use in Yoruba is the Yoruba sub nation Ijesa which means ijo ESA congregation of the specially selected just to show what Ijo means to mean church. If all the world comes together to agree on how to portray God, that council to the Yoruba is an ijo and to Europeans it is a church

Maynman:
Olodumare has hand?
And the invisible hand is the proof of Olodumare? 😂😂

You don’t know what “demons” mean, you are gobbling up your Doctrine that was taught to you

What do you understand by “being”?

The ignorance is alarming 😂

Read up on the Invisible hand theory by Adam Smith a Scottish economist and philosopher of the 18th century. It is a well articulated proof of Olodumare

Maynman:
Which Doctrine do you go to?
cele? Deeper life? Jehovah witness?
Jehovah witness believes Jesus is angel Michael, to your own doctrine is that not heresy?
Trinitarians believe god has a child, to non trinitarians, that’s heresy.
Do you understand now(

In islam too we have different sects, the sunni and shia

😂😂

If the whole world is one church with one dogma then Islam and Christianity would be heresies and we have always been one church before those militants came along

Maynman:
And this god that you have proof for is Allah?
Or you only have proof for your own specific god, which will be the israelite god, yahweh.

You have proof of yahweh? 😂

The Invisible hand theory is proof of Olodumare. Muslim Allah or Christian Yahweh can only be proved as demons which the Yoruba call Ajogun. They can be proved because all sorts of beings exist out there. MEAN BEINGS EXIST!.

Maynman:
In christianity we have orthodox which means “correct belief”, now before anything can be orthodox that means something else has to be heresy.

Your Trinity concept was made orthodox because it serve the Roman especially constantine.
There were various early christian especially the jewish christians that rejected the doctrine of virgin birth or that Jesus was son of god.

All that doctrine you have now is a doctrine of the Trinity created by the Catholic.
Other Christians were kiled because they did not follow the Roman command of Trinity.

You are driving around in circles. If you write down the truths of Islam, majority of the world will reject it, ditto for that of Christianity. By your definition both theologies are therefore heresies

Maynman:
The efficiency of a creation is determined by the creator.

How do you create a non material world?

It is accepted in science that not all questions can be answered. Some truths must be used without proof. We have enough proof of God though but of who created God, we don't, maybe we are the creator who knows?. We will never find out.