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AKPAMA211:
might be more , fine, proof ?

Benin might be more

AutomaticMotors:
Olu desist from your obsession with Benin/Edo except na grave dey hungry you!! Bazztardd!!

Go home and drop dead. You piece of shit.

AKPAMA211:
what proof do you have that Ijesha and the Benin people would be roughly the same population?

Ijesa in total might be more. I said growth rate. Not population size.

AKPAMA211:
Everybpdy has been giving birth since then, but still it boils down to settlement pattern, the Ilesha might not be so capital city conscious. There might be other fairly large towns in Ilesha too. Local government does not tell anything, Ekiti has 16 local government, Bayelsa has eight but both are roughly the same in Size in Nigeria

The Binis in Bini province were 203 thousand as at 1952. One fourth were in the capital city

And also if you keep hundred people in two seperate communities, there is no yardstick that they will give birth the same way even if they are polygamous such that if you come back to meet them, they will be the same numbers. That is why census is conducted on a ten year basis, some might even grow fairly larger than the other, I will give you some examples if you want me to

The Binis are surrounded with six hundred communities. You can calculate the number of communities there.

Urhobos have been giving birth since then, as a result, they have about six to seven fairly large towns as a result of thier settlement pattern today. If they have been a concentrated city conscious people. Their sole city will certainly be over a million today. I just wanted you to get the point but it is okay

The same with the Esan people, they have about seven large settlement, each of least over 90 thousand people.

Why did you not type immediately? I was online for a while, it now seem like I ran away or something. I fell asleep.

Why are you making this about Ilesha and Bini? But it is okay.

And do you have any proof as it pertains to population difference greatly among tribes over the years?

What is the settlement pattern of Ilesha people ?

What’s was the population of Ijesha people in 1952?

I can as well use any other example like Ijebu or Egba which are traditional states too. I of course can not use the whole Yoruba to compare with Benin. That is why I use Ijesha. I agree that Urhobo are large enough to have a big city and it would have helped if one of their towns was made a capital city. They had towns larger than Abuja before Abuja became FCT. Ilesa was over 50k in the 19th century but I don't know the 1952 figure, it would be high too because Ilesa was second headquarter after Ibadan with all of Ondo and Ekiti reporting there originally. It was the second LG hq in the country or so. Settlement pattern of Ijesha is Oyo style which is capital city surrounded by smaller towns and villages. They term it the Oyo-Ijesa settlement pattern in urban studies. Back then unlike now more than seventy percent of urban centers were on Yoruba land. I don't know who give birth more but considering that education and standard of living of Benin and Ijesa are more or less at par, it will be safe to assume an equal population growth rate. However it can not be perfectly equal.

It will help every group if they have control over their land, organise and tax the industries.

Igbos are just gaining the experience of living among other people and that is what everybody should realize. It is an aspect of the culture and soon they will acclimatize. Igbos are not more dispersed within Nigeria than the Yoruba because every group have where they specialize in and Yoruba too can claim Igbo land as a large percentage of Igbos claim Yoruboid origin and there is also at least one Yoruboid people (not Igala) in the heart of Igbo land speaking a clearly Yoruboid language às their native language and that says a lot but there are no Yorubas claiming they arrived Nigeria before Igbos and etc. It is important that decorum be maintained and the Igbos Hausas Yorubas and etc that will be chosen to lead outside their territory don't at all need their ethnic associations to get the positions for them. If the associations are fighting for them then those who merit the positions may not even get it.

Chetas81:
This people really sick from heaven, based on their ridiculous mentality, Igbo land is their, you guys keep on roaming around Nigeria in the name of one Nigeria

Yorubas are more dispersed within Nigeria than Igbos. They dominate the oil industry in the East. They are artisans, bank workers, traders, civil servants, clergy and what have you

caracas:
Clearly it’s either you don’t have sense or you are illiterate.How does the food from the north add to the economy of Anambra? So you don’t know what it means to add to the economy of a state? Do the so called Laborers pay tax? Do they invest in the state? Buy and develop lands? Do they offer any source of livelihood or employment to the citizens of the region?

Adding to the economy is living in the economy and nothing else. There are Igbos working in companies with Hausa investments. Do Igbo and other traders employ People or pay tax?. No Only salary earners pay. Therefore anybody living anywhere is seriously adding to that economy.

caracas:
The question you should ask is what do hausas contribute to the economy of Anambra?
Answer that question n be shamed….

So the millions of Hausas in the east don't add to the economy?. With the billions of naira they spend every day and the food and meat they bring?

AKPAMA211:
I added to it, go and finish reading, that is because our population was smaller then. It would have nevertheless grown considerably beyond this because we are a one city people

Everybody have been giving birth since then too. Ilesa is surrounded by over two hundred towns and villages on the traditional Ijesa six LGs apart from those not in those LGs and I believe Benin too will be surrounded in like manner even if to a bit lesser degree. Ilesa is just Ijesa capital and not really a one city state but with a bit of government assistance that capital cañ host even five million people while still being surrounded by smaller towns. Isn't Abuja like that?. I believe none of the surrounding Benin towns have been deserted since 1952 as people there have their source of income there.

AKPAMA211:
It has not gotten to lagos’s level yet, it is not even close to. It is not even among the most mentioned cities in Nigeria. It does not even have close to the popularity Lagos have, the same with Abuja and maybe portharcourt

The most mentioned on every thread are usually Lagos, Abuja, Portharcourt. Bini city was also largely developed by Binis, Okada university was founded by a man, Benson Idahosa university was also founded by a Bini man which in turn opened up Ugbor which is a substantial
Part of Gra Benin city today. Lighthouse polytechnic is also opened by a Bini man, even the First private airline in Nigeria even though defunct now was also opened by a Bini man, is it several hospitals and schools, even the major tv station in the state is owned by a Bini man. The Binis contributed greatly into making our land what it is today. Even the popularity Benson Idahosa gave to it in the 80s and the 90s did a lot in making Benin city what it is today

Capital status is just twenty percent really

Ogbomosho people can do something to uplift their land

Keep in mind also that we as Binis are a one city people, as the population increases in the Bini villages, they move to the city they know which is however our prime city as Binis. If paradventure, Bini was not made a capital today, it would have arguably still be among the most populated cities in Nigeria today.

If you look at the structure of the Edoid, you would see that the Binis are a city state people, Every Bini man wants to stay where the Oba is staying even though we have villages, such that if Benin city was not a capital city, it would still be well over one million today. what is the resultant effect of this, as the population increases in the several Bini villages, there is usually an overflow to the city making it significantly larger than the other villages, the 1952 census is a classic example, as at the time, Bini city was not a capital city. while Bini city was 54 thousand in 1952, 2 of the other Bini settlements were about 5 thousand, 13 villages between 2 thousand and four thousand, 49 between 1 thousand and 2 thousand people and 571 villages less than 1 thousand.

While other Edoid groups have at most thirty settlements with large size of about 2 thousand to any where around forty thousand. Most Binis even from other communities build houses in Bini city and stay there. In fact migrations from Orhiowmon , Uhuwonde, Ovia north east, and Ovia south are up to 85 percent of the Binis in Bini city. 70 of houses in Benin city are still Bini owned, most were built with proceeds from overseas before the advent of yahoo.

While other Edoid people would prefer to build houses in their villages, an uromi man would want to build his house in Uromi, a man from from Ughelli would want to build his house in Ughelli.

You don't understand what I mean. In that 1952, Benin was not bigger than Ilesa the capital of traditional Ijesa land but what about today?. Benin was capital of the Midwest and there are also many institutions there because of that. What OAU is to Ife is what Uniben is to Benin. Government house, media houses, consuls of foreign nations and etc. If any city will be praised for maintaining by itself a huge population, then the first prize goes to Ogbomosho and not Benin.

scholes0:
It is me, Scholes0, your resident nairaland statistician, and here are some new interesting information from the Nigerian Bureau of Statistics for your Consumption and planning. This info can help business owners, web marketers, telemarketers, etc know how to plan, and focus on their target Networks, Regions and Audiences. Enjoy.
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This is the latest Information from the NBS via the Nigerian Communications Commission. The report presents the Total number of active voice and internet subscribers by states of the federation as at March 2016.

The number of active voice subscriptions stood at 148.74 Million at the end of Q1 2016 with MTN accounting for 57.04 million (or 38% of total), followed by Glo with 34.60 million subscribers (or 23.2 % of total) and Airtel with 33.86 million (22.7%).



Table 1 also shows that Lagos was the dominant market for all of the active voice telecom companies accounting for 10.05% of MTN total voice subscribers (followed by Ogun, Kaduna and Rivers in that order); 10.03% for Glo (followed by Oyo, Niger, Ogun and FCT in that order); 16.0% for Airtel (followed by Ogun, Kano and Oyo); and 19.1% of Etisalat voice subscribers (followed by Ogun, Kaduna and Rivers in that order)
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[size=13pt]Active Voice Lines
Breakdown By States and Regions[/size]

1* LAGOS - 19,046,657
2* OGUN - 8,535,893
3* KANO - 7,811,290
4* OYO - 7,538,586
5* KADUNA - 6,787,117

6* F.C.T - 6,034,907
7* RIVERS - 5,849,535
8* NIGER - 5,137,400
9* DELTA - 4,934,551
10* EDO - 4,744,110

11* ANAMBRA - 4,249,792
12* BENUE - 3,812,334
13* OSUN - 3,708,809
14* ONDO - 3,473,437
15* KATSINA - 3,449,189

16* KWARA - 3,334,543
17* IMO - 3,315,208
18* NASSARAWA - 3,261,964
19* ABIA - 3,177,965
20* AKWA IBOM - 3,116,758

21* ENUGU - 3,096,071
22* PLATEAU - 3,026,409
23* KOGI - 3,004,325
24* BAUCHI - 2,747,326
25* ADAMAWA - 2,723,955

26* BORNO - 2,406,151
27* SOKOTO - 2,248,306
28* CROSS RIVER - 2,198,942
29* KEBBI - 2,050,089
30* TARABA - 2,021,112

31* JIGAWA - 1,820,249
32* GOMBE - 1,815,166
33* ZAMFARA - 1,678,476
34* EBONYI - 1,436,945
35* EKITI - 1,425,945
36* YOBE - 1,402,357

** OTHERS (UNIDENTIFIED) - 1,213,511
37* BAYELSA - 1,110,084

Total Nigerian Active Voice Lines: 148,745,464

REGIONS:
South West = 43,729,327 Active Voice Lines (29.40%)
South South = 21,953,980 Active Voice Lines (14.76%)
South East = 15,275,981 Active Voice Lines (10.27%)

North West = 25,844,716 Active Voice Lines (17.37%)
North Central = 21,576,975 Active Voice Lines (14.50%)
North East = 13,116,067 Active Voice Lines (8.80%)

F.C.T = 6,034,907 Active Voice Lines (4.05%)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7340/27107440575_e5a3d5beb8_b.jpg

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[size=13pt]Active Internet Subscriptions
Breakdown By States and Regions[/size]

1* LAGOS - 12,620,662
2* OGUN - 5,629,424
3* OYO - 4,908,092
4* KADUNA - 4,231,710
5* KANO - 4,134,266

6* F.C.T - 4,132,172
7* RIVERS - 3,853,300
8* NIGER - 3,301,721
9* DELTA - 3,225,365
10* EDO - 3,144,922

11* ANAMBRA - 2,608,805
12* BENUE - 2,424,091
13* OSUN - 2,284,205
14* ONDO - 2,240,949
15* NASARAWA - 2,175,394

16* KWARA - 2,115,199
17* KOGI - 2,040,082
18* IMO - 2,023,867
19* ABIA - 2,010,551
20* PLATEAU - 1,921,857

21* KATSINA - 1,887,194
22* ENUGU - 1,873,467
23* AKWA IBOM - 1,861,330
24* ADAMAWA - 1,621,508
25* BAUCHI - 1,559,609

26* CROSS RIVER - 1,375,251
27* BORNO - 1,347,355
28* SOKOTO - 1,264,793
29* KEBBI - 1,162,543
30* TARABA - 1,154,720

31* GOMBE - 1,063,522
32* JIGAWA - 898,399
33* EKITI - 879,702
34* ZAMFARA - 851,669
35* EBONYI - 796,519
36* BAYELSA - 732,777

37* YOBE - 694,631
** OTHERS (UNIDENTIFIED) - 373,113

Total Nigeria Active Internet Subscriptions: 92,424,736

REGIONS:
South West = 28,563,034 Active Internet Subscriptions (31.0%)
South South = 14,192,945 Active Internet Subscriptions (15.35%)
South East = 9,313,209 Active Internet Subscriptions (10.0%)

North West = 14,430,574 Active Internet Subscriptions (15.61%)
North Central = 13,978,344 Active Internet Subscriptions (15.12%)
North East = 7,441,345 Active Internet Subscriptions (8.05%)

F.C.T = 4,132,172 Active Internet Subscriptions (4.47%)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7229/26503699363_5c3707214a_b.jpg

SOURCE: http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/

This data somehow shows that Kano is more populated than Oyo state which means Kano city has more people than Ibadan unless there are very many villages in Kano state. Kano is the only well known city of Kano state while Oyo has Ibadan and Ogbomosho as huge cities. It is therefore likely that Kano is bigger than Ibadan but education level in Kano is very low unless these figures are questionable. A year that Kaduna registered 100k waec students saw Kano registering only 63k or so and Oyo over 70k which means Kaduna should be much higher than Kano And Oyo in any statistics but this is not the case if this data were accepted. It shows that Kaduna is more literate than Oyo or Kano by far but there is a likelihood that Kano and Oyo have more people within their borders. Other stats considered side by side will offer more clues. Lagos however is continuing to grow at the expense of others.

Okada691:
Haba, the population of Igbos, Hausa, Urhobo, Bini, and residents from the south and the north, would only put the combined population of Yorubas in Lagos at most 40%. Ogun state is also very cosmopolitan, Even Ibadan, rent increased greatly as a result of the migration they have received. My brother, the south west region in Nigeria is the most heterogeneous region in Nigeria,

Even Osogbo, I have seen many threads whereby southeasterners were shocked about the constant light situation in Osogbo and thought of migrating there. The population of Yorubas in the south west would be at best 60%, it can’t be more ., with Lagos being a huge part of the population of south west, even Ogun and Oyo, coupled with the fact that there are many Hausas and fulanis in many villages in the south west. It is a far cry from being 85%. Even 70% is not comprehendable.

If this statement is true, peradventure it is true, then the same is true for Onitsha, Aba, Enugu, Kaduna, Kano, Maiduguri, Jos, Calabar, Benin, Abakaliki, Owerri, Umuahia and etc. No border against migration and Yoruba, Hausa etc dispersed inside Nigeria are higher in number than Igbos.

AutomaticMotors:
Uhundan!! May you and your future impotent generation know no peace!! Since you have made your whole existence about peddling lies about people you know nothing about!! You Vermin!!

If you have common sense and were brought up well, you would have addressed the issues I raised pointedly without insulting me but how you were brought up will always rub off on how you do things

AKPAMA211:
Bini was estimated to be a population of about one million people in 1987.

That is 36 years down the line, almost two generations, we have quadrupled that population since

In 1996, the Otaru asked for a separate state for Esan and Afemai people with his explanation that the Binis were big enough to stand alone both in landmass and population, in fact we would have been a state of our own if not Anenih that thwarted that plan. This is the link to the interview where he said it. Paragraph 11

https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/otaru-of-auchi-how-we-lost-out-in-the-bid-to-create-afemesan-state/

A fourth of Bini are abroad, we have close to a million Binis outside the shores, and over 3 million Binis at home. Our combined population is over 4 million

Even more than a fourth will be abroad but Benin as a city is one of the more fortunate in the country and it has received a net immigration as a result of being a capital city. Other cities like that are Lagos, Kaduna, Abuja in the first tier. Ogbomosho is the number one city that made itself big maybe followed by Onitsha without pointed government assistance though in Anambra, Onitsha is taking some shine off Awka

Ologbo147:
You can as well say Yorubas are 1 billion, any researchable materials online does not pit the Yoruba population above 35 million. You cannot be 3 million in the last century, as early as 1931 and be 200 million today, it is not comprehendable. I am not talking about those yoruboic sect that were taken as slaves. I am talking about actual yorubas traveling out of the country in search of greener pastures

Most yorubas would rather travel to Ghana, Ivory Coast, Togo and other west African countries. The Yorubas are not so Europe oriented, they are only more in Europe than the Binis because of their sheer population advantage than the Binis and their total population in Europe would not be more than 3x max than the Bini population in Europe

Die if you want to, cry if you want to.

The population of Binis home and abroad are well over 3 million in total population if you add the diasporan population abroad.

You are not a refined person and you are empty. It is so obvious. Not one material did you quote in this argument since I started arguing with you,not even tissue paper, but you carry fact about in your head like I can never be your mate in this life and next

You don't understand. If Irish are 15 million in Europe and 50 million in US alone and they started moving in large numbers after the fall of feudalism, how much more Yoruba that has been going as slaves and freeborns since 1500s?. Therefore if there are 50 million Yorubas in West Africa, then there are 150 million in the Americas. Then if people are speaking Yoruba and practicing Yoruba culture bearing Yoruba names and having items inherited from West Africa in their possession, who am I to say they are not Yoruba? Is it the mallams in Ilorin and Iwo that are Yorubas? Or Adeboye and Oyedepo?. The real Yorubas are in the Americas. Then there is no country where they will actually do a census and Nigerian Yoruba will not be ten times Benin (not all Edo) people. Not to talk of West African or American Yorubas.

I dish out academic facts. The truth will set you free. I won't spoon feed you in this age of information but I will provide easily verifiable information that is obvious and you know this is a public forum. Your PhD supervisor will never spoonfeed you.

Ologbo147:
Dont go back and start typing like a coward. He was Edo true and true. Ame is water in Benin and all Edoid. Ogiame simply translates to mean king of riverine area. There is no combination there, it is pure Edo through and through

The son of the king that went to Itsekiri was a Bini man and he called himself Ogiame or he would have been bestowed with the title by his father.

That Benin was derived from Ibinu, is peddled by Yoruba aggressively. The Benin history think of Benin as an extract of Ubini meaning Beautiful people.

Nobody cares about the religion of the Itsekiris, the Itsekiris are not Bini people. The Royals are Binis descent

It was the language spoken in the city and in the palace! Not the suburb alone. Several migrations from Benin city to Itsekiri, to Agbor and the names of the listings of kings in Agbor, Issele Uku and several other Anioma towns shows undeniably that Benin was spoken in Benin city and in the palace.

The Oranmiyan history is not what most Binis has come to terms with, we feel it is somewhat an imposition

What is Bajulaye which you call Bazulaye but which is correctly pronounced in Lagos?. Give that one too an Edo meaning like the one you gave Ibinu. I can see why Oranmiyan named the place Ibinu. You can really make people vex!. However keep your story as my own analysis is for the rest of the world and for academic purposes

Ologbo147:
This stats says otherwise, by ratio, the Binis are the most travelled group in Nigeria by a mile. Maybe one-6 at most when compared to the Yoruba tribe. It is not up to twenty. It is not close . Stop showing ignorance everywhere. When compared to the Yoruba population in Europe, it would be at best 1 third in the entire European continent.

Benin is bigger than Ogbomosho, Even bigger than port harcourt according to the 2006 census

And we have become more larger over the years, it is obvious and noticeable, I am just being mild with figures, it is definitely up to 60%. Bini’s control of the political terrain in Edo state suggest so. You have not been to Edo state seemingly to understand the population dynamics and political advantage in Edo state.

You clearly ignored the political advantage due to population difference, you clearly deluded yourself just the way the Esans know the truth and would like to delude themselves, then later come to Kneel and beg for vote. We don’t force people not to vote in Edo state like they do in Lagos, when we come out to vote, there is a difference

You are ignorant, clearly as it pertains to European travels when compared to me. You are not close and can never be. A people can be conscious of a place and migrate there often and it is only normal. As this stats. If you have travelled outside the country or you be been to Benin , you would know this. If it is proportionate to our population, the revenue - international remittances coming into Nigeria should have been proportionate to our population. But a whooping 25 % came to Edo state, two times more than the one that came to Lagos state and that should tell you something.



https://www.nairaland.com/7484480/international-remittances-nigeria-state-household/12#119433439

I have estimated you and you are empty headed. Calling Edo a tribe. Can you call Norwegians a tribe?. It shows your level of intelligence. I have never stepped out of Nigeria but I know the world 1000 times than you. The few places you have been to, you know nothing about. You are just an empty headed idiot. Yoruba in the world, travelling since the 15th century with the Spanish and Portuguese would be close to two hundred million in total who see themselves as Yoruba descent including white and black. The friends I have from all over the world you will never come close to having in 1000 lifetimes. Is it Edo of two million you want to be comparing with Yoruba of 200 million?. Why not say you are equal to China?.

Stoplying:
The guy is mentally ill and there is one rule in life which everybody needs to follow: don't debate a mad man. To a mad man, making sense doesn't actually matter.

You have no identity on this faceless forum while my id is on my profile. However my solemn curse will reach you anywhere you are under the sun and I declare that you will die as a mad man and if you marry, your kids will be mad people as well. If you think it is a joke or that it won't happen to you, then you are only fooling yourself

Evboesi:
I don’t think that’s true, if it is for thier business purpose, why can’t they withdraw cash? If at all they can’t withdraw cash as you opined, they will have access to the money, and transfer to whoever is in need of it



Why will the Dom account be in Edo state and not Lagos or Oyo when there are several bureau de change offices in Almost every state in Nigeria

The list of bureau de change office in Nigeria, is over a thousand with majority being in Lagos, Abuja and Kano. With just a few in Benin .

The Binis are not your mate, and as we grow larger in population, and as our population increases in these countries mightily, you will notice it.

Don’t be deluded, accept reality

https://www.cbn.gov.ng/Out/2022/FPRD/LIST%20OF%20CBN%20LICENCED%20BUREAUX%20DE%20CHANGE%20AS%20AT%20DECEMBER%2031,%202021.pdf

You don't understand. If the Mallams and Benin indigenes right there in Benin can not withdraw dollars in cash, what do you think can be the meaning of those Dom accounts opened in Edo state?. That is the riddle.

AKPAMA211:
Binis are 80% larger than the Esans today and it is not news. According to what is on the government Archive in Edo state, the Binis are 57.54 % of the population of Edo State. Our population home and abroad is over 4 million

Benin city will actually be up to half of Edo population but the population is very cosmopolitan like Lagos. All sorts of people from the old Midwest and the new Edo as well as other Nigerians are there but the population is owned by Benin for revenue purposes. It does not however mean that Benin indigenes are up to 4 million.

AutomaticMotors:
This guy is sick!! Make una avoid this boy, just look at the rubbish he posted !!

You are a bastard for calling your father's age mate a boy.

If he is not known to have committed any crime then let him be. Absolute power will of course always corrupt absolutely everytime. When Nigeria breaks up and he wants to operate in your country as sole proprietor, you can refuse him and restructure the company in your own space while choosing the CEO. The company was once used by the RCCG to swallow my over 200k that was used to answer questions on a GLO line, I think in 2010 or 2011.

Evboesi:
if you are familiar with a place in Benin they call Erie, it is these Abokis money changer’s place. That’s where they usually send it to and ask their siblings to go coleect it there

Even Abokis with Dom accounts can not withdraw cash. I collect money from the US like every other week and the money appears in my zenith without me knowing the beneficiary dom account which may be in Edo state. It can be anywhere in the country. Before the data can be reliable,then we must be able to collect dollars over the counter like during Jonathan's time

Ologbo147:
That is not a fair take, the Binis ordinarily do not migrate out of our land, because we have a large city that is averagely compared to Any other city economically in Nigeria besides Lagos. If the Binis are leaving Bini, it certainly would be Europe, you definitely have not been to Europe.

Even in terms of study, 90 percent of Binis would not leave Uniben, AAu ekpoma, Auchi polytechnic, Benson Idahosa university and Igbinedion university all in Edo state to go study elsewhere, at a stretch it would be delta state university abraka.

Binis has grown considerably larger more than the Esan in the last seventy years, and it is obvious, there is a concentration of Bini population in Europe. We have around half a million Binis in Europe if not more

Also the power dynamics in the states suggest so, they believe we (the Binis) have the numbers to install anyone as governor and it seem so.

In politicking in the state, and because we have the majority, other regions come to the Binis to beg for vote, when it is the turn of the Binis to become governor, nothing stops it. Because of our numbers or perceived numbers, since 1999 the Binis have had two governors in twenty four. The two on a eight year term. Obaseki a Bini man would complete his second term next year.

But because of our population or perceived, some Binis are still jostling to become governor next year, which no other ethnic group can try in the state.

Out of the twenty four years, Esans had only clinched power once, and it was a rule of A year and half. A stolen mandate by Osubor. And they are serially begging for all the parties to field Esan candidates, because they know if a Bini candidates happens to emerge from any party, the Binis might aggressively vote for him.

The atmosphere in the state perceive Binis to be the majority, my brother we seem presently above 40% of Edo state, it might even be more notwithstanding the population of Binis outside

The population all over the world does not move at a constant, I believe the Binis are 35 % more numerous than Esans today.

You people betray shallowness when you talk about travelling as if it is everything. I have never been to Europe but know more about Europe country by country than you can know in ten life times. Self education is everything. Not travelling out of the country and I have known more about Europe than people like you maybe for 25 years. Benin people can only be outside the country in proportion to their population and their population has not grown more than their neighbors in recent times and their population in Europe will be like one twentieth of the Yoruba population there. What Benin have that other Edoid groups don't have is control over a large metropolis like Benin and Benin is very cosmopolitan coming after Lagos, Ibadan, PH and Ogbomosho in Southern Nigeria. I am not sure which is rated higher between Benin and Ogbomosho. All ethnic groups should have control over their territory and work together to attract investors there as all the competition over political posts in Nigeria is somehow unhealthy. I personally do not like it.

Igboid:
I think this stats is misinterpreted by readers here.
The stats is talking about percentage of families in the above listed on states receiving remittance from abroad, and not the volume in terms of amount received by the states from the total amount of remittance from abroad.

For example, if 1000 families from Edo received 1 dollar each, and only 10 families from Imo receive 10k dollars each, this stat will show that greater percentage of Edo household received remittance ahead of Imo.
Because this stat is not about amount received.
It's about% of people receiving.

You can't receive dollars directly in Nigeria, how can they know when even if you have dom account it will be useless for collecting dollars?. They are just using location of Dom accounts and it does not reflect anything more than location of those cutting corners with government assistance or connivance

Ologbo147:
I would want to see the stats that says Esans are more than Bini, do you have any?

From personal observation, as in everywhere I have been to, I seem to meet more Esan than Benin but actually it can go both ways. The population will be similar. I have one Benin in my class at the University but no Esan but I met Esans at the University. There was a Benin room mate during 100 level too but I guess I should have said they will have a similar population and Benin might be higher. I was just trying to point out that there are large Edoid groups comparable in population size to the Benin. The only group that maybe said to be decidedly larger should be Urhobo. For others there will be need for a census

Ologbo147:
Those stats I gave you are Bini alone, everybody mentioned there is Bini.

The Binis are situated on a landmass of about 8653 kilometers square and has a population of over 3 million.

The maximum population of Edo will be around seven million and Benin can't be 3 million out of it as Esan will be more than Benin and there are still other groups

Ologbo147:
local government has never been a yardstick for population, the Binis are situated on a landmass of about 8600 kilometers square, and they have seven local government however with some of their population in Ondo and Delta state.

Local government as a means to determine population is a dicey one, many a times, you have some local government that are 39 thousand, 67 thousand and then you have a Bini local government with 129 thousand voters not residents, voters and it is not even urban

How do you calculate exposure, Edo is always leading the stats in terms of jamb and Waec, what else do you need in terms of education and exposure, when you talk of education, exposure, and enlightenment, after Lagos and Abuja, the Binis are definitely the next

Benin is by far bigger than Ijesha and by far more travelled. There is no contest

If you add all Edo together, it will surpass Ijesa by far because they are more than three times Ijesa population and they can only be compared to Oyo as a state but Benin alone is what I am comparing with Ijesa. Then a people with complex organisation and industries on their land inhabiting hundreds of cities are a nation and not a tribe. A tribe is low population and simple organisation. 100,000 people are not a tribe

Ologbo147:
we are more than Ijesa in population and we are definitely more traveled, the Ijeshas are not more than Ekiti. The Ekitis would just be roughly the same size as the Binis

Mention the Benin equivalents of
Odeleye Fadahunsi
Lawrence Omole
Bola Ige
W F Kumuyi
Da Rocha
Sapara Williams
Kayode Esho
To mention only a few people. Ijesa for now are six local governments but other Ijesa lie outside those local governments. In Osogbo today, the only lands left are being sold by Ijesa indigenous land owners. Ijesa state if created will border Ede with Osogbo inside. Can a Benin state beat such a state?. Maybe. There are no data but if you are not more exposed or educated, or with more population, how then can you be more travelled?. Ijesa have been scattered over decades and a town like Ipetu Ijesa might have as many indigenes as Akure but now Akure is much bigger.

Ologbo147:
You talked about those masons spending money on Bini land, working and spending money on Bini land.

There are hundreds of thousands of Binis outside the shores, and they have attendant families at home, you definitely do not know how the Binis are closely knitted with travel outside of the shores.

Almost every family in Benin has atleast one person outside the shores. By family, I mean family of five, family of four, in some cases where it is extended, an extended family of 25 might have as much as ten persons outside the shores.

Those money you see are sent to siblings who do not have jobs, are underemployed in other to continually carry themselves through and through all year round, and they in turn spend it on the Economy in Benin. They use it to buy food stuff, pay children school fees and so on.

That is why you can see a jobless man in Benin who intends to get married because he has backings of his siblings abroad.

There are many scenarios whereby a family of seven would have just one of their siblings in Nigeria. And the other six would be outside would be outside the shores. And they use these monies for thier everyday survival just as those masons and labourers use it, it is the same thing.


They don’t send to domiciliary account,they send to those Abokis at Erie at sakponba road, then their people go to Erie to collect it.

That is why you can see a Bini oldman in the suburb of Beninthat has not been paid pension for years, would have millions in his account courtesy of the children he has abroad

Everything is population and Benin alone are not more than Ijesa in population nor are they more travelled. The only thing they may have more are more people living on their land for now.

Ologbo147:
not somebody we are talking of hundreds of thousands of Binis

This is not small money, my brother, did you even check it, 25 % of 11 billion dollars. You know how much that is

People inside Benin are more important than anybody abroad. Also for over a year I have had no income and my sisters support me. I send Whatsapp message to one in the US, then the money will appear in my account. I am the beneficiary but where the dollar goes to I don't know but I am in Ilesa Osun state. Domiciliary accounts receiving dollars from abroad are more in Edo and they may be and are probably racketeers with government connection or they can be expatriates, Mallams and etc. The only way the data can be correct is if people are allowed to operate domiciliary accounts without restrictions. Otherwise it can never be correct though Edo will have more than Osun only because of higher population. Once again the people on your land are the people you have. If you check properly it may be a few big men with connections collecting most of the forex into a few accounts. The GDP of Edo of maybe 7 million people is not more than
18 billion dollars max.

Ologbo147:
these are different povs, they contribute money to the city, quite alright, they are residents in the city, it is not their city, indigeneship and residency are two different things

How can you say they contribute money to Benin more than Binis abroad. When25%of the Total international remittance that came to Nigeria last year came to Edo state and Benin city, two times bigger than the remittance that came to Lagos state, most Yorubas in Benin city are labourers and masons,bricklayers, how then do they contribute more to Benin than Bini’s abroad

https://www.nairaland.com/7484480/international-remittances-nigeria-state-household/12#119433439

Remittance is a tiny amount of any economy. A man living in Benin and working there is spending millions every year in the Benin economy for food, rent, transport and etc, you can't compare that to somebody sending money from abroad periodically or in tiny bits