₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
It's not just one of their Synagogues but the temple in Jerusalem which is the house of their God even your so called African gods won't tolerate that. So Jesus going there to drive them out was justified and he wasn't armed as you thought. As for Jehovah's Witnesses the only rule that makes us different from all others is never supporting WARS so what you're thinking will never ever happen among us!

It was not his father's house. That is the issue. Then he used whips according to the Bible and I would not know if he used other arms. However when he was to be arrested, his companions were armed and one of them inflicted a wound on one of the soldiers that came to arrest him showing clearly that the claim by the Jews that Jesus and his disciples were thugs that used to get involved in street fights might be true. The only evidence in the Bible for that are the two examples I shared

vdestro:
C'mon, think well now. Like saying fire exists only because water and sand exist, when we all know that there would always be anti-whatever people eg gay and antigay, marriage and antimarriage, God and antiGod people.

Even nairaland here can testify to the fact that sweet gentlemen here have had their good acts torn to shreds and questioned by wicked evil people.

Thus, it is clear, as proven by donbenie, lortReed and many atheists here, that evil people just love being and doing evil and they do not need anything or anyone to provoke them to attack any getleman.

So, it is not our love for God that made you an atheist, it is rather your love for evil and your hatred for God especially the part where He stopped answering your prayers which makes you people become atheist.

Atheism is cool. Childlike innocence is harmless. It is you people that are dangerous. You understand?. Atheism is not evil like religion.

MaxInDHouse:
Why not ask what happened instead of saying what you don't understand?

If your family house is been turned into a place where some members choose to keep their domestic animals for sell with animal poo smelling everywhere do you call a member of your family who goes there to drive them out a fighter?
Who among the sellers will have the impetus to say what he did to keep the family house tidy is wrong?

Ọmọ just calm down and ask whatever you don't understand Jesus' disciples were armed because they were still anticipating a time Jesus will lead the people into a revolution against Rome but he never did that's why they can't fight back when Jews were attacking them for their faith àbí you have any idea where the early Christians retaliated the ill-treatment they were getting from the Jews?

I only pointed out that Jesus was not a non arms bearing pacifist and where he disrupted peace was not his father's house but the community synagogue. Then if JW happen to win over a whole country and form the government there, do you agree it will be the Catholic church all over again? A repeat of the cycle all over again. That is the issue. The inquisition all over again etc etc

lexy2014:
1. If the increase in money supply from N100 to N116 didn't increase purchasing power, how then did it increase demand?

2. Can u pls identify were money being spent or not spent was mentioned in the following:

"For you to say that price of apple increased from N1 to N1.16 (after money supply increased) suggests that immediately money supply was increased, that automatically triggered the price of apple to increase. How was that possible?"

3. How can I refer to when I never asked you if money was spent or wasn't spent? Can you show where in number 2 I asked about money being spent?

4. How did the increase in supply of money in Spain cause the purchasing power of money to fall?

5. Why should I add any factors of my choosing? You are d one adding factors after making a straight jacket claim that increase in money supply from N100 to N116 with 100 apples automatically caused inflation. Why adding other factors when u claimed that it is increase in money supply that automatically caused inflation?

6. If you say money is earned in an economy, is it supply of money in the economy that determines how much people earn?

When the supply of anything increases while demand is constant then the value of that thing will drop and such things include money. When you print currency, the currency loses value. Ancient people that invented money understood this.

MaxInDHouse:
Stop deceiving yourself it's clear that you hate TRUTH!

Christianity has nothing to do with all those you mentioned i have told you this several times but you keep repeating it.

Jesus said Satan will initiate his own followers who will claim they're Christians {Matthew 13:25} but by their FRUITS you will know them. Matthew 7:16-18

Any religion that's in support of lifting weapons against fellow humans is not a Christian group because Christ taught his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone {Matthew 5:43-48} so how can killers be followers of a leader who outrightly condemns killing? Matthew 26:52

While early Christians are like JW, Jesus was not. He fought in the temple and his disciples were always armed

MaxInDHouse:
Banning people for their beliefs is intolerance all we can do is avoid them if possible because everyone has what is called "human right" and part of your right as human is to hold your own beliefs as long as you're not hurting anyone in your neighbourhood!

E be like sey you no know sey the most difficult group to beat intelligently are Jehovah's Witnesses, we will prove to you that everything we do is LOGICAL and WISE!

If people are excommunicating the whole world, why do you think the whole world should not excommunicate them from public spaces? But of course they can't ban them from practice in private. When harmful ideologies are left to fester it will spread and branch out into even more harmful ideologies. JW are exactly like early christians which morphed into catholicism which branched into Islam which branched into Shiites Sunni etc and Catholicism branched into Protestantism into pentecostalism which has JW as a branch and JW is just like early Christianity!

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking!

My God promised to KILL all killers and anyone supporting killing. That's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses different because we have no killers in our midst judgment of evildoers we leave to our God but they can't continue being our fellow worshipers so we EXCOMMUNICATE them unless they're REPENTANT!

It is okay so far they don't use public spaces. No one after all can go into someone's head to change their belief. They are okay if they are banned from public practice

vdestro:
Aha! You have moved to another topic.

Raise a thread, i'll meet you there!

It is because you debate as if you don't know what Christianity is

vdestro:
See, your thinking is twisted and confused. "You can't hate God. God loves".

Many devils aka atheists have already confessed their hatred for God here, so you are completely off.



Christianity says " do only the good and the right" and you say it is harmful to the public, do you now see that you are the one who is harm full to the world, exactly like satan?

Atheists exist only because Muslims and Christians exist. No one will go against a gentleman God but any thinking person will question the God described in the Bible and the Quran hence atheism. No atheists before religion. If you hate God it of course does not matter to God. It is like an American kid hating the US President. It does not matter to the US President. You religionists are the cause of atheism and are as guilty of atheism as those you are accusing of being atheists

vdestro:
See, your thinking is twisted and confused. "You can't hate God. God loves".

Many devils aka atheists have already confessed their hatred for God here, so you are completely off.



Christianity says " do only the good and the right" and you say it is harmful to the public, do you now see that you are the one who is harm full to the world, exactly like satan?

If you don't believe Christ is God which other humans can't become and you agree that only the one you offended can forgive you and not God, that salvation is not by grace (sheer luck) but you have to work it out etc etc then your Christianity will start having a comely face. Otherwise it remains evil.

MaxInDHouse:
While they're killing people around your domain shey?

Initiators of violence should be met with violence of course while murderers are promptly killed.

MaxInDHouse:
Logically if you're the ruler of a city and you tell your citizens how to make peace work among themselves but some ignored your words as they continue to cause chaos in your domain what will you do to such ones?

Any right thinking person will evict them from his domain that's the one and only logical thing to do!

I would sign only laws passed by the majority and if by any chance they pass an unjust law, I would resign rather than sign it unless they force me but men of equal rank don't join together to do evil and many heads are always better than one. If citizens do something wrong but are not violent, I will support fining them repeatedly until they go bankrupt and I will never be in support of exiling one person not to talk of the majority

vdestro:
The bold is exactly what hellfire is about. It is to catch those who escaped your "making them pay to the same degree"

Hell fire is infinite punishment for a finite misdemeanor and no rational person not to talk of God will set up such an institution

vdestro:
I do see your point and I think that those who do this are devils doing this to make people hate God and Christianity and i have said so here severally.

You can't hate God. God loves everybody even if you are an atheist but Christianity is a harmful ideology that should not be practiced in public. Would you like your own father to be portrayed in bad light in public?. You can't control what people eat but you can't let them be selling anyhow food to the public but what you do out of sight in your own home is not anyone's business and you should be able to observe Christianity in your personal space

MaxInDHouse:
I told you the group of worshipers who don't threaten anyone with Hellfire you say they're CULT simply because there's a punishment for wrongdoing in fact you're just deceiving yourself!

JW say a few people will go to heaven and the rest will live on Earth forever while those who don't believe will cease to exist. Isn't it?. It is still the same issue of eating up people's minds with irrational and harmful ideologies. What proof do they have for such an outlandish claim?.

vdestro:
If they were indeed holy then they would not be threatened by hell, exactly as person wey no dey carry drugs no dey fear NDLEA.

Christians and Muslims are the only humans who do this thing. On tv, internet, newspapers and in public places. How I wish you can see my point.

vdestro:
So, if a murderous bandit helps your mother cross a busy road, he should not be punished for his stealing and murder because he has done the good?

And by your standard, asking people to do only that which is good makes them subhuman, eh? See how you prove that satan is working through you?



Thank God the records show that no mass and self murderer (suicide bomber) became one because a Christian told him to be good.

And that there isnt a normal person anywhere who does not vehemently hate rapists, adulterers and cheats, thieves and scammers, suicide bombers and kidnapping murderous bandits. So please, you don't have any tangible thing to say.

You don't understand. Threatening holy people with hell because they don't accept your ridiculous claims as true is what I am against. I however don't believe in hell at all.

vdestro:
No different from when people warn you with the threat of polce and prison when you carry drugs or do yahoo-yahoo.

So you believe it is ok to tell well behaved people they will burn in hell?. By your reckoning it is not different from a law against murder or drug trafficking

vdestro:
Same as converting believers to something else.

Don't convert people to sub humans by telling them that despite their good deeds they will burn in hell for not believing your tales. Do you intend to continue doing that? It leads to very ugly things like suicide bombings, sectarian division, irrational hatred of whole people's etc etc. I will never be caught promoting such. If that is what you do, kindly have a rethink.

vdestro:
Ok.

But correction! christianity is not interested in converting the world, only interested in converting those who fear God.

Converting normal human beings to believers should be a criminal offense

Ibrahimmrfish:
The original inhabitants are Muslims every Chinese and Indian you see there are immigrants,this why U.A.E refuses to give citizenship to immigrants,they will totally end up like Singapore if they allow it.

Infact it is wrong not to give citizenship to taxpayers who don't have another nationality

Maynman:
So believers are mad people?

Religion is a psychiatric disorder. If you are a psychiatrist you will understand. Before religion no one on Earth will tell a fellow man that his way of worship is wrong and when you meet foreigners speaking a different language you fully expect a new perspective on theology unlike nowadays that people want to save people. It is madness believe me

Maynman:
The cause of insanity is unawareness.
Mad people are unaware just like adam and eve before they ate the apple, once they ate it, what was the first thing they did?

Ego means mind.
Mad people are out of their mind.

What of insane people that were never diagnosed?. There is nobody without psychiatric issues. Ideology alone is a psychiatric disorder and we all are blown by bias. Mohammed was insane to believe he is the last prophet yet he was undiagnosed and many today act exactly like him and are suffering from the same insanity.

Emusan:
There's no group or association that doesn't have punishment for the wrong doing of their members. So if you want to be objective, don't limit it to kill and Hell Fire threat alone.

You are a cult if you kill ex members or threaten them with hell fire. That is my point but if you have no problem with unbelievers and you don't kill or threaten people with hell fire for unbelief then you are a normal civil organisation

Maynman:
No, ego is not equal to pride. Pride is EXCESSIVE.
Like he said you need ego to be human.

When you feel ashamed or praised, which part of your body do you think is feeling it?

When you tell another person “i love you”, the “i” is the ego.

Only a mad man has no ego.

Some mad people may have excessive ego which sometimes is the cause of their insanity

preciousee17:
I understand you now.

This, "I love you" example is not sitting well sha but I get the point. Issorite.

It is the best example. Our ego is fragile

Irete Ogunda

I I
I I
I II
II I

Irete (Forger or Presser) on the right and Ogunda (Action or creation) on the left. In this scenario it is action taking place in order to achieve the will. If it appears to a question of what should I do?. It means act in order to achieve your will!. Act in order to forge!.
If it appears to a question of what is his or her destiny?. It means he will always act to achieve his will. When he or she wants something he or she will not wait for others to hand it to him or her, he or she will take action immediately to bring that thing into reality. If it appears to what is the significance of this marriage?. It means the marriage is an action that will bring to pass something that is desirable and etc etc. I will share here some scenarios of Irete Ogunda

1. I will publish online, plead with and pander to the Nigerian leaders until Nigeria changes to become a well run nation
This was the Ifa cast for Akin Lawanson when he joined the social media community after his NYSC and resolved to publish articles online until Nigeria is force changed
He was advised to sacrifice
He listened to the ritual items and complied
People of the world!
When you really want something done you have to take action!.

2. I have to clear him off to have my way!.
This was the Ifa cast for the narcissistic politician who won an election as a result of sending hired assassins after his opponent who would have defeated him!.

3.What is dirty that needs to be done will definitely be done by her with all her heart because that is how she is built.
This was the Ifa cast for the CIA who set up Rihanna a lady bank robber to become a billionaire hip hop artiste so that she can clear the path of Barbara Bush to get to marry Akin Lawanson that she was betrothed to without his knowledge.
They were asked to sacrifice and they listened to the ritual items and complied.
People of the world!
The lady bank robber did the work true to type while thinking she was the one being primed to marry Akin Lawanson!.

4. I want my students to be as good as or better than me.
This was the Ifa cast for the teacher who is always loading his students with class work and assignments so as to perfect their expertise.
He was asked to sacrifice.
He listened to the ritual items and complied.
People of the world!
There is no other way to create experts than by giving them problems to solve!.

There are limitless number of scenarios of Irete Ogunda

The ruling orisas are Ogun and Egbe from Emere.

Ela boru Ela boye Ela bo sise

Okanran meji

II II
II II
II II
I I

Okanran (Challenge) standing on two legs. It is talking about concentrated challenge. Someone facing an acute problem. If it appears to a question of what will happen today, it means today will be a day of challenges. If it appears to what is the destiny of this marriage, it means it will be a challenging adventure. If it appears to what should I do?. It means challenge them etc etc

Okanran kan nihin
Okanran kan lohun
Okanran dimeji a di ire
A difa fun Apon iko
A bu fun Agan inaja
Okunrin TI ko laya ni Apon Iko
Obinrin ti ko Loko ni Agan inaja
Ikan nwa oko ikan nwa Aya
Awon mejeeji wa wa eji Kun eta won gba ile awon awo won lo
Awon awo won ba ni ki won gbebo lo si idi Odo kanna
Igba Kanna ni awon mejeeji de idi Odo na.
Esu ba da SI Oro won
Esu ni SE won fe gbo?
O ni awon mejeeji ti di lokolaya niyen o!
Won ba njo won ba nyo
Won nyin awon Awo won
Awon awo won nyin Ifa
IFA na nyin Olodumare
Emi o ri Ifa ti o pa ni lerin bi Okanran elerin.

One Okanran here
One Okanran there
Double Okanran will turn to blessings.
This was the Ifa cast for Apon Iko
It was also shared to Agan inaja
A bachelor is Apon Iko
And a spinster is Agan inaja
One is searching for a bride and the other is searching for a husband
Both added two to three cowries and approached their Awos
Their Awos directed them to place sacrifices at the same river
They arrived there at the same time
Esu then intervened in the matter
He told them. Do you want to hear?
You are now husband and wife!
They started to sing and dance
They praised their Awos
Their Awos praised Ifa
And Ifa praised Olodumare
I have not seen another Ifa as hilarious as Okanran Elerin!.

One okanran here
Another Okanran there
This was the Ifa cast for Akin Lawanson who was fixated on how Nigeria will become a working nation to be proud of.
It was shared to the US government plagued with rising debt and spreading terrorism across the globe
Both of them added two cowries to three cowries and approached their Awos.
They were advised to sacrifice.
They listened to the ritual items and complied.
Esu then intervened in the matter.
He said 'Do you want to hear?'.
You can only achieve your different objectives and solve your problems if you work together!.
They therefore joined hands together and surmounted both problems.
People of the world!.
You can only solve your own problems by helping other people solve theirs!.

Ela bo ru Ela boye Ela bosise

MaxInDHouse:
I have discussed this issue with you in the past but it seems you don't understand how the application goes.

The world now calls their prison "correction centers" because they want those in charge to know that the convict is not to be cruelly dealt with but to distance him or her from the society for some time until he/she learns how to cohabit with others.

The same is what God's organization is doing we excommunicate unrepentant wrongdoers (note the word UNREPENTANT) so unlike the world that will imprison all wrongdoers we are selective because many did what is wrong under extreme measures beyond their control.

So i prefer the way God's people does things!

You excommunicate for beliefs not for doing evil and that is wrong

preciousee17:
I think it's hard to understand some sentences on a first glance



What you wrote in bold means:

• Do you want to be ignored if you are begging on the street? If no, then don't treat people like that.
• Do you want to be scammed into paying high fees for job applications and other important stuff like that? If no, then don't treat people like that.
• Would you love someone to give you food at the point that you are dying from hunger? If yes, then treat people like that.

"Love your neighbor as yourself" means:

• Give to beggars cos you won't love to be ignored whenever you beg.
• Don't scam people cos you won't love to be scammed.
• Give to be hungry cos you won't love to be ignored when hungry.

They are totally the same — defined from different points of views...

Again, common sense there. People will call it karma and other related names, but once 'Christianity' is mentioned, they'll start imagining those rude counterfeit religious versions and they'll totally dis-accept what they had previously accepted.

People who beg as a profession are scammers and a number of Hausa who do that are millionaires far richer than those giving them money. Begging on the streets should be banned and people compelled to live in dignity.

On agents scamming people, it is the fault of people paying them. They obviously made the money in a wrong way. You only lose money permanently that you never deserved.

Nobody has ever died of hunger where other human beings live. People die of hunger only during famines.

Life is a balancing act and since we are not computers then everything has to be case by case. I however reiterate that Love your neighbor as yourself is a tool of brainwashing and you have to love yourself more than other people and treat others fairly and attack those who don't is the only valid religion. Am I clear?

Ttipsy:
I think u deviating from my point.

Oil is the major reason Nigeria is what is it today. Nigerias economy is financed by oil proceeds

You don't finance an economy. An economy works by itself. It is a living thing but a government can make it more efficient, however not as a favor but only because they are collecting money from all income earners to fund the budget. Never as a favor. Anybody promising you such a favor is a con man

MaxInDHouse:
Of course you can't love others equally nah but you will strive to save them if that's what you expected them to do for you in return.

That's the practical application of the rule!

Because God programmed you to love yourself more is why love your neighbor as your self is invalid. You need ego to be a human