₦airaland Forum

Maybe to a certain extent you are right but it is not the value of the currency that determines the cost of production and wages but rather production techniques and whether or not wages are regulated. So devaluing your currency does not in actual fact reduce the cost of production. What can reduce the cost of production is a superior technology.

The Japanese have their yen at around thesame value of the naira but their minimum wage will be over 300 thousand naira when converted to naira. So they are just wasting paper by devaluing their currency. They should redecimalize. No need to be counting big figures. 3000 yen instead of 300,000. Do you think it makes any difference sir?

Whether a currency has a high value or not is immaterial sir. What is important is that it should not be volatile 200 to the dollar today and 230 tomorrow. Changing at 197 at the CBN and changing 300 in the black market. That is rubbish. Money should be dependable to some extents as a store of value. Inflation should be related to the GDP growth. Not that GDP will be growing at 6 percent while inflation is 15 percent and government is taking the excess. Government should collect money frontally and not through the backdoor.

Maybe you are a debtor who wants the dollar value of your debts to be eroded but that is selfishness. Ask yourself why business men in nations where sanity reigns are doing better than you. Something wrong may seem ok to you because you think you are benefitting but the actual fact is something wrong is never beneficial on the overall and to anyone. You will do better in a properly run economy.

KaffyK:
When an Orisha dies,yoy know something is wrong.

All humans die including incarnations of orisas. Orisa does not die. Mohammed the incarnation (mouthpiece) of Allah died, didn't he?

You refuse to answer the simple question and are raising irrelevant questions. You don't carry cash to those countries obviously, what you are likely to do is wire the money there and collect your cash which you then smuggle into Nigeria to change in the parallel market.

Somebody buying produce in Nigeria will use the money to buy produce not keep the naira, people selling produce are collecting naira. He wants nothing to do with your filthy currency other than buy your produce with it. He leaves with produce, leaving you to sort out yourselves. What do you mean by what will he do with 29 billion naira? I hope you are educated now?

You are just not being serious. Look at this scenario. You are the MD of a South Korean commodity trading company and you drew 100 million dollars at prevailing interest rates for the purpose of buying produce in Nigeria to supply companies in Europe. You know that if you transfer the money into Nigerian domiciliary accounts, your dollar will change for 197 naira but if you drop it in Niger, Cameroun or Benin republic and smuggle it into Nigeria you change it for 295 in the black market. Considering the fact that the money is a loan and the conmmodity market is not predictable meaning any profit margin is not all that guaranteed, what will you do? Will you transfer the money into Nigerian banks or smuggle cash into Nigeria?

kayfra:
The mecca bullshit doesn't make sense chronologically since our exposure is 7500 to 10000 years ago. Islam is a relatively new religion. Our arrival here predates the founding of all that mecca BS by approximately 5000 to 7500 years.

Cultures also influence each other and correlation isn't necessarily causation.

People came to join the Yoruba people but there was no time the Yoruba were nomads from the inception of time to the present moment. There is no such account in our oral history or in the Ifa corpus. The Yoruba were never nomads

The government should not focus on capturing forex, that is no concern of government, it should be the concern of importers. Government should focus on raising money through taxes to finance infrastructural and human development.

Nothing sums up the function of government more than the panegyrics of Obatala.

Afun nini gba fun aini
O so enikan di igba eni
Iba o!

Meaning
The one who adds more to the wealthy and redistributes so that no one is in poverty.

The one who changed one man into two hundred men.

I pay homage.

That should be the function of government, definitely not running after forex.

myproperty:
I never claimed to be an Ekpe initiate.What do you call a written script,what do you read?
Well let me define what a language is.
Language is the method of human communication, either spoken or written, consisting of the use of words in a structured and conventional way.
The next thing you would say is that words are not used but symbol. what is a word. It is single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone).
So whatever is used as a means of communication is a language, please know that.

That is a tricky definition but picture writing is a bit different from language. For example the differential sign is recognisable by all mathematicians as well as the plus, subtraction, division and etc signs but may not be pronounced thesame way by all mathematicians due to their different languages, so in a way it is a form of language but not a spoken language. It can be written in Chinese and read in English.

trillville:
Sorry for my error. My point on the oil resources is simple, no government should share any oil money. The federal, states, and local governments should pay their civil servants using tax generated from people and businesses just as other countries do. Oil revenue should be set aside solely for infrastructural development as this will develop Nigeria faster.

The issue with giving the Niger delta the oil resources and letting them manage it and share it with other Nigerians will never work in my opinion and would only lead to civil war. The sooner Nigerians move away from this idea, the better for us as a nation. It can be logically and morally argued that a greater share of the resources should be expended on the Niger delta, but outright ownership (even with the Niger deltans agreeing to share with the rest of the country) will certainly lead to war in the long run.

I am not saying giving them the oil is a magical wand but it can be a form of restitution. When oil was discovered in commercial quantities in 1956, it was not under Federal control, it did not lead to civil war then and it can not lead to war now. The oil is insignificant and should not be minded that much unless by greedy people whose intent is treasury looting. I see your point but that money is too insignificant to be ceremonially set aside like that leading to embezzlement again. Take Osun for instance, if we say the population is 7 million, each person can afford 100 naira a day on average to give to government, including infants, beggars and the disabled. Some can afford 1000. So the state can easily generate 1 billion naira every day, if organised like Europe. That is the way to see things. I know people stealing the oil money may try to incite a civil war but it is our duty as concerned folks to disabuse the minds of people.

trillville:
Lawani, you are correct in saying Nigeria should not pay civil servants with oil money but should pay them with taxes. I don't believe any prosperous nation does this.

The issue with your post is your belief that oil revenues should be left solely for the Niger Delta. I think this is very greedy of you and greediness on the part of our leaders is what makes them stupidly corrupt.

Why not channel all oil into capital projects (infrastructure for power, water, transport, communication, health, education, housing, etc) rather than paying the civil servants or the Niger deltans. Think of the number of workers that would be employed to achieve all these projects.

But if government decides to right size the civil service, Nigerians would go on the streets protesting. The ex-president had the Steve oronsaye's report that would have dramatically reduced our recurrent expenditure but failed to implement it. The current president also has the report and is yet to implement it.


Nigeria as a country is very rich, but we have a culture of greediness that is keeping us back. I read the article in saharareporters on why fuel will remain scarce for much longer, and I became really sad at the degree of greed Nigerians display. We have the oil in Nigeria but we have to import fuel. Why?

In importing fuel:

We pay the foreign refineries money (creating employment for foreign workers) to refine the crude
We pay foreign banks interest for loaning money to our Nigerian banks
We pay our local banks interest for loaning money to our fuel importers
We pay our fuel importers money for transporting the fuel to Nigeria
We pay the fuel distributors money for transporting the fuel to the filling stations

All these just because some greedy people want to make an extra buck. How greedy and wicked can we be to our fellow countrymen?

It is actually very rude of you to say I am greedy for oil when I have no oil well and I am not from the Niger Delta. The owners of the oil have been cheated for decades, yet they are not saying they don't want to share but leaving it for them remains a noble thing to do as a form of restitution which infact can not suffice in any way.

You say use the oil money for development, so what are they doing now? Please think more deeply about the matter and I believe you will realise that the only way out is to find a way to reduce oil dependency to like 5 percent of revenue and if that can not be done, then disband the country. Leaving the Niger Delta to control their oil before the oil era winds up is a good idea if the people in power are humane. Let the Niger Delta refuse the offer themselves. There was no time they agreed for anyone to take their oil.

Iit must be appreciated that the real Sango or Jakuta is pre historic, in antiquity and not an Oyo man. Oyo ile is not more than 1000 years ago. The orisha of vengeance is as old as humanity which is why a day is dedicated to that orisa. It must also be appreciated that reincarnation is the Yoruba belief about life. Take Ogun for instance and the popular poem

Ogun meje lOgun mi!
Ogun Alara ni ngbaja
Ogun onire Agbagbo
Ogun ikola Agbagbin
Ogun Elemona agbeesun isu
Ogun Akirun a gbawo agbo
Ogun gbenagbena eran ahun ni nje
Ogun makinde ti dogun lehin odi!
Bi o gba Tapa a gba a boki a gba uku uku a gba kemberi.

Nibo lati pade Ogun?
A pade Ogun nibi ija
A pade Ogun nibi ita
A pade re nibi agbara eje nsan
Agbara eje ti nde ni lorun bi omi ago
Orisa toni ti Ogun o s i, yio fenu bosu je
Bi omode ba nda ile ko ma se da Ogun
Oro Ogun leewo. Ma ba Ogun fi ija sere
Ara Ogun kan gogogo!


It is in thesame light of multiple incarnations that Sango should be seen not as an Alaafin Oyo. I am happy that someone pointed out that Sango was Queen in the Akoko area. Those are 8 incarnations of Ogun listed there, not mentioning the Ajero who was my ancestor who likes palmwine, The Ogun Badagry, even Ogun Ewuare of Benin.

When considering Yoruba orisa, take note that there have been hundreds if not thousands of incarnations. For instance Ogun Makinde was a terrible man, a human ritualist.

Sibrah:
The awareness of free money is stronger than ever. Everybody is looking easy money. Nobody wants to go thru the uncertainty associated with growing a manufacturing outfit or agriculture business from scratch.

But the only way a nation is built is through collectivization by the way of collecting money from workers in that nation, to do things together. That way, if there is no people, there is no nation. A government depending on crude oil sales don't care if Boko Haram kills everybody or not, they have nothing to lose or gain.

There is always the constant hammering on the point that the main export of Nigeria is crude oil. Some even go as far as saying the economy is a monoproduct economy and this includes well read people and those in government, when in fact Nigeria can not reap more than 20 billion dollars from oil this year while the GDP is over one trillion dollars a year at Purchasing Power Parity Levels. Such statements betray a lack of interest in the fortune or misfortune of the masses of the nation by those making the statements. It shows that those making the statement never think deeply about the economy even for ten minutes at any time.

Presently, India is the major buyer of Nigerian crude, the USA that used to be the biggest buyer will soon become a crude exporter themselves, flooding the market with crude oil and probably offering India a better deal if possible.

We have oil of which India is the major buyer, kolanuts which Indonesians as well as others come to buy to use in their textile industries. Mali, Niger, Cameroun and etc buy our kolanuts and even export from their countries, bitter kola is exported to Europe. Cocoa, Coffee, cashew, ginger are exported to far flung nations all over the world and are not mainly restricted to India like oil. Even Nollywood productions are forex earners that may be at par with oil if the volume under the control of pirates is added to it. All ingredients of our local dishes are exported to nations with significant Nigerian populations. Subsequently our supermarkets and markets are filled with imported products, largely smuggled and paid for with all these exports. So the story that oil is the highest forex earner may be the official story but it can not be the truth. Exports like cocoa, coffee and cashew together are employing more people than the oil industry and they are more important to the economy than the oil sector. A member of the cocoa association in Nigeria once told me that the world bank disbursed more loans to the Nigerian Cocoa Association than to the Association in Ghana or Cote de Ivoire. Something that is indicative of actual volume of output. The Cocoa industry worldwide supports around 50 million people with up to 70 percent of them in West Africa. It must be appreciated by all that most figures being bandied around in Nigeria for population, forex earnings and etc are totally unreliable, sometimes over, other times under stated.

The only truth is that the country is in a mess yet the people are forging ahead and the economy is actually thriving despite the lack of infrastructure, organisation and etc but it can be stopped in its track all thesame or at least derailed by a government dishing out badly thought out policies like the attempt to manipulate the forex rates against the reality on ground. If too much of your currency is in circulation, then the value will drop, if you try to control it by fiat, a parallel market will come up to fill the gap. As the government, the only dollars you have power over is the one you are given by the people buying crude oil from you. To think a South Korean who raised 200 million dollars to buy cocoa in Cross River or Osun state will hand those dollars over to you at 197 naira each when the rate in the parallel market is 290 is rather naïve and people thinking such will happen really need to resign from their government position. Also, if a business owner is given dollars at 197, why will he do business with it if he can just sell it at 290 in the parallel market?. The South Korean or Indian buying cocoa in West Africa to supply companies in Europe and Asia are using loans, not free money, so they will find ways to bring in their dollars without using Nigerian bank accounts. Who would not? Afterall if the dollars are handed over to the CBN, what next are they going to do than sell it to people who may be posing as business men who will then resell it to real business men at 290? A recipe for the collapse of the economy.

As someone bringing in dollars into Nigeria to buy Nigerian products, you are faced with the dilemma of whether to hand over your dollar at 197 or find a way to change it in the parallel market at 290. We are hearing now of a new measure banning the use of Nigerian ATMs abroad in an obvious bid to trap dollars in Nigerian bank accounts.

It has come to a point that the Nigerian state must realise that it is breaking its own rule of legal tender because the majority of government revenue is in a foreign currency. This disregard of its own legal tender law maybe the underlying reason why inflation is one of the most prevalent attributes of the oil export revenue dependent Nigerian state. It has to stop. No problem can be solved without honesty.

The Ife predates Egypt. Why will anywhere be named Ife if it is a progeny of any human civilization? Ife means the point where land rose above the oceans and started to expand. Fe means expand. The present Ife calendar was inaugurated over 5 thousand years before the Egyptian calendar was inaugurated but the Yoruba, the English, the Russians, the Indians, the Chinese and etc are all a mixture of all. No group was ever totally isolated. Phoenicians, Chinese, Indians and etc would have traded intermarried with Ife people in the past. There is a place mentioned in Ifa which Awos say is Australia and that is the farthest place on Earth's surface from West Africa. Our ancestors were star trekkers.

There are non human genes in our genome but not all those beings have had their genomes sequenced. The non human in sub saharan Africans have not been sequenced but their genes are in us. The meaning of non human genes is genes gotten from source different from the Y chromosomal Adam and mitochondrial Eve. Then we still have Rhesus negative people who obviously were not created with thesame base material as Rhesus monkeys.

I agree we are a bit devolved because there is no other way to explain the killings, hatred, war mongering over religions but no one is devolved Neanderthal. No one carries more than 4 percent Neanderthal DNA. We are all devolved humans under the manipulation of demons.

gatiano:
A full Blackman is no neanderthals. It makes sense that you think and/or say so.
A child between a balck and white parent may still have some madness or neanderthal gene. If this child then marries another Black to procreate a black baby, That baby has lot more of the madness. On the 3rd generation, There will be no atom of neanderthal genes left in them.
A lot of Yoruba were taken captive during the slavery period, It is African diaspora that may have so atom or little percentage of neanderthal genes in them, that is why Black love is a must.
I am guilty however, I married a white woman and have a child. Now I must rectify the mistake, Now this is not hate. It is adjusting to the time we are on earth, carbon emission with water vapours causing green house effect is ok for the Black people, it is not atall for non-blacks (heat-waves even took out a dark skin non-black pakistani/indians). That is why they are all jumping over the climate change thing. They have developed a way now to breakdown carbon in the air. also it will be to their detriment.

Where did this neanderthal come from? from where did they evolve or devolve?

No human being is a Neanderthal whether white or black but Neanderthal genes occur in different groups across the world particularly in Asia and Europe. Neanderthal genes is just one of the numerous non human genes in our genotype. There is Denisovan too occurring in some Asian groups. Then sub saharan Africans carry genes from a non human ancestor to a level up to 2 percent and above. There are non human DNA in the mix in all groups. That is the gist. The Neanderthal genome has been sequenced and I believe a Neanderthal will be brought to life later and it may not be a white man but it may be, whatever the case, the pigmentation will be interesting to know since it will tell us the climate of ancient Europe if Neanderthals are actually native to the place.

MyGeneration:
back then Nigeria had sth to fall back on and that was agriculture... but now what does Nigeria hv apart from the oil?

Fall back on as how? Don't you understand that the oil is negligible inside what we live on? And since it causes nonchalance in government, we are better off without it? Your argument has no logical basis. Maybe you want to say export commodity but then all figures are wrong. Right now our main oil customer is India while many other nations buy other things that are largely undocumented.

paulGrundy:
Are you a JW?

No

MyGeneration:
if Nigerias oil goes down, apart from southeastern states that are already used to having zero govt presence in there land, I see hardship coming to alot of Nigerians.
The migration u see to states like Lagos, Ph and Abuja would be child's play.
The only thing now is that people say diversify the economy, what do we want to export?
Nigeria has turned its back on its agriculture that other countries have taken over the spaces they have and now it wont be easy getting back.

From 1914 to 1956, all oil consumed in Nigeria was imported yet Nigeria was better back then. Today, the oil is not more than 30 billion dollars inside a over 1 trillion dollars GDP by PPP. So the oil is irrelevant.

MyGeneration:
Also Mr Lawani Osun's population is not up to 7million.

What is Osun's population if Nigeria is 180 million?

Richirich713:
U again apply extreme double standards, the bible is unreliable cuz we don't have external evidence of this massacre but when it comes to the Talmud or Origen quotes, it's the most reliable thing on jesus evens if it comes hundreds of years after him.

I think of it logically, that we don't no all Herod deeds, but we know he was paranoid about competition to his throne.

Just like skeptics used to think Daniel made up a king or that the bible made up Pilate or that Luke got it wrong on Lysanias or that the bible made up the occurrence of an eclipse in the 1st century.

Or that the bible made up towns like Bethlehem or Nazareth and Capernaum and the list just goes on and on.

U can't claim a event like the massacre of infants didn't occur just because one historical source mentions it, especially if that same source mentions numerous other names and events that were rejected in the past for the same reason u believe Herod massacre was made up but were later verified to be true.

We can't prove everything in the bible thru archeological evidence or historical evidence. It's simply impossible, especially if u living 2000 years after the time the NT was written.

The NT has more than enough evidence to stand as a historical source. If skeptics want to raise the bar to the point where everything in the NT must be proven beyond a doubt then they should reject the existence of practically everyone in the 1st century and about every event they are believed to participated in. All we will have is dead bodies and tombs.

Also u spoke about eyewitnesses :


"Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught." Luke 1:1-4

"We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, ‘This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.’ We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain." 2 Peter 1:16-18

As I said before u only believe this story of a Roman soldier cuz it's against jesus, whom u urself is against.

Jesus in the new testament is a concept derived from a Jew executed for blasphemy by the Jews not a real person. The concept is based on several Gentile heros purportedly born of virgins impregnated by God, those heroes were monarchs like Appollo, Osiris and many others all born on 25 December. The person executed was a heretic named Isa bin Pantheras. After his exit his followers continued claiming he is son of God who has ascended to heaven after rising from the dead on the third day. He was seen as God incarnate by his followers. When Romans became Christians they changed the name of the heretic to Jesus Christ then started converting people by force. They embellished the story with Hellenistic and Egyptian myths which was also the basis of Jesus teaching originally having trained in Egypt. For example, he appointed 12 disciples just like Osiris.

Why the Herod story of infant genocide is false should be clear. Roman history is well recorded and Herod was a colonial officer who reported to Rome, he was not an absolute monarch. He once executed two of his sons for some minor offenses and the Roman emperor passed a commentary that was recorded 'It is safer to be one of Herod's pigs than to be one of his sons'. So if such a genocide of infants had occurred, it would surely have been recorded. Jewish accounts also claim Nimrod ordered all baby boys in Sumer to be murdered because his diviners told him Abraham, a new King was born. Such stories are most likely embellishments. We do not have so much record of Nimrod's rule in Sumer of over 5 thousand years ago but we have extensive record of the Roman empire of less than 2000 years ago and such an incidence could never have escaped mention. Anyone saying in 4050 AD or even 2150 AD that the US, Nigeria or even ISIS ordered a genocide of all infant boys in a country will be a liar unless the account is in the works of reputable, established and well known scholars of our era. Authours, newspapers, published works and etc. The Roman empire had many of such whose works are still in circulation today. Let us extricate ourselves from demonic manipulations sir. Let's break free. The Bible account is clearly not reliable. You believe Jesus postured as God, so you can't blame the Jews for charging him. He confessed in court, so I don't see the reason for your fixation on witnesses. Please let us be objective so as to be able to return humanity to God.

paulGrundy:
What can you then say about children of God reverting back to a discarded belief??

If beliefs change and are still bound to change, do you think children of God, have the right to claim "accurate truth"?

There is no absolute truth. Something can only be true to an extent. This is what everyone should know and what children should be indoctrinated with. Do you know an example of an absolute truth? I advise you to avoid people who claim to be in possession of absolute truths.

Richirich713:
Bible authors unknown, that's only to those who apply different standards to the bible regarding its historical evidence. This is ancient writings not modern, ancient biographies almost never had the author name himself.

"In the ancient world an anonymous book, rather like an encyclopedia article today, implicitly claimed complete knowledge and reliability. It would have reduced the impact of the Gospel of Matthew had the author written "this is my version" instead of "this is what Jesus said and did".
(The Historical Figure Of Jesus, E.P Sanders)

Furthermore we have enough evidence and tradition to support that mark, luke, matthew and John wrote the gospels. We can't just brush off the evidence aside just be cuz the author doesn't name himself.

Interesting u believe in the story Pantheras evens tho every historical scholar I hear of rejects the story as unreliable. Also where did u get this idea they were eye witnesses, this was hundreds of years after jesus. Evens Bart Ehrman considers the story made up to insult christians.

And I'm saying hundreds of years cuz u probably don't consider late 2nd century church father Origen reliable.



It's not about jesus claiming to be God, it's about the Jewish Leaders who used many false witnesses against him. They using lies against him cuz they couldn't find any evidence.

What? As a relative or friend of Mary?

Guy the friends of jesus wasn't even around, why would his mother's be. Her friends wud had been hundreds of years old if they were there.

Again this is basic knowledge, if u don't no these things u definitely shouldn't be speaking against Jesus and Mary.

U will reject the earliest stuff we have on Jesus but accept writings hundreds of years after him as more reliable.

Don't trivialise the debate sir, when I say eye witness accounts, I mean as passed down. For example the Ijesa account that Owa Obokun procured brine to cure Oduduwa's old age blindness is an eye witness account. That Oranmiyan left Owomika as an infant King in Benin is an eye witness account, that Oranyan mobilized an army to go and expel the Mohammedans from Mecca but turned back at the River Niger to establish Oyo ile is an eye witness account. Not fantasies, cooked or made up stories to manipulate the masses. I hope you get it.

Why I will not accuse anyone of writing the new testament account is because those accounts were written by fraudsters. Take the Herod killing babies story for instance, putting something in the Bible that never happened. What do you call that?

Fulaman198:
I don't like the term Sub-Saharan African because many black Sub-Saharan Africans are not Sub-Saharan. It's a ridiculous term coined by whites.

#dontbebrainwashed

What was happening a few thousand years ago is not clear yet but genetics show clearly that a group like the Yoruba have Neanderthal genes introduced by relocatees from Europe since Neanderthals never roamed Africa. That is remarkable. Then if any linguistic group is the linguistic successor of Kemitic Egypt, that group are the Yoruboid group of Yoruba, Igala, Itsekiri, Ebu. You can research links between Yoruba and Kemitic Egyptian. For some reasons, many Egyptians relocated to Southern Nigeria bringing with them Neanderthal genes which they got from Europeans they had earlier intermarried with. The fact that the Yoruba are non zero Neanderthal content is instructive. Europeans are 1 to 4 percent. Personally I believe Egyptians relocated to Southern Nigeria because that is the civillization that birthed their own civilization. Simple as that. There are many evidence that I won't go into here, validating the Yoruba position that Ife is the earliest or first human civilizaion. All humans are descended from thesame ancestor and Obatala is that ancestor but aliens have also landed on Earth over time from extra terrestrial human civilizations. Genetics show that the Yoruba and the Fula as well as many groups are desscended from the Y haplotype E13b or so. The fact that some people became nomadic for thousands of years removes nothing from the fact that their ancestors were sedentary. They were proto Ife people. All human ancestors were proto Ife people according to Yoruba thought.

MyGeneration:
its easier said than done.
What does a state like Osun want to use to run itself in tge effect of true federalism, if despite the oil revenue they receive they dont mk impact is it when the oil revenue is gone that they want to mk impact, same with some northern states, state like ebonyi and Edo and all d western states apart from Lagos and Ogun and Ondo.

People living in Osun are close to 7 million. Do you think the pittance of federal allocations is what they live on? Go there and see for yourself. You make an uneducated statement. People from the South south are there working in the agro allied economy that I know. Osun's GDP by PPP will be above 50 billion dollars.

Richirich713:
"The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any. Many testified falsely against him, but their statements did not agree.

Then some stood up and gave this false testimony against him: 58 “We heard him say, ‘I will destroy this temple made with human hands and in three days will build another, not made with hands.’” Yet even then their testimony did not agree.
(Mark 14:56-59)




Actually I wud rather not trust Jews who seek and used false witnesses against him. Also people didn't start to claim he was born of a virgin during the second century, it was already going on during his life.

U keep saying Jews remain the highest authority but u rejected the most reliable historical sources for jesus namely the New Testament documents which were written by Jews.

When I say Jews I mean credible Jews who got their accounts from families and friends of Jesus, not Bible accounts whose authours are unknown. I beg you to try and understand. The only new testament writer whose identity is certain is Paul the Apostle who never met Jesus, and Paul, though educated appears to be impressionable and fickle minded. Try and understand.

I still don't get where you say the Jews lied. Is it that Jesus never blasphemed by calling himself God or they used a retroactive decree to execute him or what? Please explain. Do you believe Jesus was posturing as God? If so, why blame Jews for charging him.

As a relative or friend of Mary who new Mr Pantheras, you would have relayed your account to counter the virgin story which is how the Jewish accounts came about. Thanks.

myproperty:
The " Nsibidi".originates from the Efik/ibibio and uptil today it is still being used only amongst the Ekpe cultural group of Cross river and Akwa-Ibom state . Nsibidi is a sacred language used by the Ekpe culrural group of.Cross River and Akwaibom State and as no linkage whatsoever with the igbo historically, except by adoption by trying to adopt it now

Do you claim to be an Ekpe initiate? Yet you do not know that Nsibidi is not a language not to talk of being a sacred language? It is a written script and not a language. An advanced form of what the Yoruba call 'Aroko' (do re do). You don't speak it, you read it. The writer can be Chinese while the reader is Yoruba. It comes in handy when there are many language groups in an area or as a means of recording things.

A form of it should be developed for global use. It has limitations of expression but the limitation can be removed by using alphabets alongside it. It is the best form of writing in my opinion.

One advantage in this kind of writing is that it helps those who don't speak thesame language communicate in writing by using this kind of script. It can be taught as an alternate form of writing in schools and a form of it can be taught all over the world as a universal written language. Chinese writing I believe is like this. People speaking different languages can communicate in writing.

Why are you insisting people lied sir? Jesus broke the law by saying he was God and above others, the creator of us all. So the Jews arrested him because of that. Isn't that in the Bible? So where is the lie in that?

Some people during the 2nd century AD started claiming his mother was a virgin but accounts of eye witnesses called them out on that, offering the name of the man who impregnated Mary. So you would rather believe a virgin gave birth against a sensible eye witness account? Jews remain the highest authourity on the matter and Jesus was not the first nor the last heretic they executed. People are still executed for heresy even in today's world. How is Jesus different? It is demonic to be saying someone died for your past, present and future sins. If you did something wrong, please correct it by restitution because no one died for anyone's sins. We all need to be rational adults and stop dancing to the tune of demons. Egotistic claims should not be encouraged. Thank you.

Richirich713:
Obviously they will make up stories against jesus, jesus was the most significant influence in the 1st century, Jews and gentiles were converting, so obviously jews who didn't believe in him will make up stories against him.

U clearly don't believe this story about Pantheras based on historical evidence or any evidence, you just believe it cuz it's against jesus.

Isa, Yisa, Jisha, Joshua, Yashua are not thesame name as Jesus and Christ was never the surname of any Jew ever. That alone speaks volumes. We all know the doctrines of Christianity. Christ died for all past, present and future sins, this directly rends the moral fabric of the society since its a natural attraction for incorrigible criminals. The slogan is 'Nobody is perfect'. This is a dangerous culture to adopt for any society. Then Christians are terrorists, they say if you don't believe, submit to and follow their heresy, God will burn you in hell. Many people believe this, seeing unbelievers as hell bound and lost. This is dangerous. Such terrorism needs to stop and adults need to be told they have to be perfect, they have to be able to rationalise all their actions. I hope you see this. The doctrines of Christianity are evil.

Also the writers of the Bible made many things up that never happened like Herod killing all baby boys. So the Jewish account is more believable. They have no reason to lie.

If we had 1000 farmers like President Obasanjo, the agric sector of the economy will swell up and the GDP will increase, there will be food security. If he is corrupt they should secure a conviction but they shouldn't seize the on going business assets he is managing well. I believe the man himself will support that.

The senate should be scrapped so that states can merge or divide without losing federal representation.

jamace:
What has been the contribution of the Ministry of Agriculture in the 36 states of Nigeria? Even though everybody is shouting diversification to Agriculture, I have not seen farms owned by the ministry. All I see are men and women wearing suites and agbada in offices with well fitted aircondition.
If Nigeria is serious about agriculture, the state ministries of agriculture must own farms.

Really its not about being serious about Agriculture but about organising the country to depend on taxation like all the nations built by our ancestors, then everything will fall into place. By PPP, the economy is over one trillion dollars a year and oil is not more than 30 billion dollars of that.