₦airaland Forum

MaxInDHouse:
I always tell you to remove that veil that is covering your eyes.
True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) will never ever attack anyone no matter what you believe we will respect you as an individual whose right it is to choose whatever religion he or she likes!🙂

You don't attack but you issue threats saying they will cease to exist while the chosen few will live forever in paradise. It is more or less the same illogical position

Since Christianity and Islam arrived with their know it all and holier than thou it has been misery for the world

This means there can be pasture all year round for cattle in any part of the country but will the Bororo agree to settle down?

There is nothing wrong in idol worshipping and it should be illegal to harass idol worshippers. For peace to reign, Christianity and Islam should be banned from the public space. All they have added to humanity is misery

untoldtruth:
Just because they dress like, act and or scream "Allahu Akbar" before committing atrocities doesn't mean they're Muslims o, anybody can do that Muslim or not, Islam is a religion of peace, not of crimes.
May the soul of the departed rest in peace, ameen.

Muslims have been attacking and killing unbelievers from inception from the days of Mohammed

You can't allow people to be staying in the forests when terrorists come from the forests to massacre whole villages. The Fulani must embrace modern methods of animal husbandry. Then all tiers of government should invest in ranches because a way to end the menace by nomadic Fulanis maybe to drive them out of business. Their business model is obsolete. Modern nations make billions of dollars from dairy products and there are no nomads in those countries. Many nations in Europe have more cattle per Capita than Nigeria and they don't face the issues we face. Upon all the killings in Nigeria, we don't make any forex from dairy products and smaller countries in Europe do.

There is no location that can not host a cattle ranch. What is important is to space them properly so that each ranch can be fed by it's surrounding vegetation. A one thousand head cattle ranch needs a certain amount of acreage and I believe no matter how small a local government, it should be able to host at least a one thousand head cattle ranch

There is a need to ban nomadic cattle rearing. Station yourself in a place and go about to collect hay for your cattle from the surroundings. Only the milk you sell will pay for the trouble you will go to to get cattle feed. Selling milk will be more difficult for a nomad because the companies that buy milk can not be following them about. There is a need for other people in the private sector to invest in ranches. Government tiers should lead the way too.

Again, the first step for banditry to end in Nigeria is to ban people moving around with cattle. Give them a deadline to camp their cattle somewhere. You also have to ban illegal camping in forests either with cattle or not. If you are moving around with cattle already, then you can move around with vehicles to cut feed for your cattle.

If people are not allowed to stay in forests, then it will be easy to go after the terrorists who come from the forests to massacre whole villages.

SisterAnn:
Domperigon, Helinues, seunmsg, kemetian, biodun666, peterobisathie, Legendhero buygala allthingsgood antichristian and lawani have all lost their voices because it didn't happen in SE.

Having said that, this is really really sad. What do these islamists want? Are these people humans at all? How someone or a group of people wake up one morning and decide that today, they are going to mow down as many as much people they set eyes on defies logic.

What sort of religion is this bikonu? Even traditional worshippers that are accused of human rituals are not this wicked!

Will this ever stop? This is the million dollar question on the lips of every sane Nigeria.

They can only try this sheet on their own neck of the woods because they know they still have sympathizers amongst the victims, they can't try it in SE!

The highest these evil men can do is attack one or two and run away, they can't come to any community in Igboland and kpai 200 people and this country remain the same! They know it!

The ones that were roasted in Ekpoma by the locals, why haven't their backups come back for reprisals? They won't dare because heaven will fall if they try that sheet with any community in Edo state!

They know how to pick their targets.

Just negodu! 😧😧

How do you know all the people you mentioned have not commented on nl? The story is already on fp and it has been reported troops have been deployed. It is not a Yoruba matter alone as it is not even a Yoruba village. Do your part as well. The army will go after them and smoke them out. All the militants causing problem in the country are not up to five thousand and they will all be killed if they don't desist. This is not Buhari era who was their sympathizer.

APC removed Jonathan so it is possible for opposition to remove Tinubu no matter the type of electoral law in place. Then there is no law that can not be circumvented

Usakachris:
The number is very wrong,as at this evening 160 corps has been discovered and 8 are my direct family.

The whole town was massacred
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May their souls rest in peace. Condolences. What do you think is the reason for the attack?

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Like I said, you ignorance is very loud.. .

You are just talking without proofs.

Well, Qur'an has explained everything.
Grab a Qur'an, read suratul Maryam.


Once again, your ignorance is screaming

Pagan practices in Islam? Laughing
Muhammad was converted by Christians.. laughing out loud. So Muhammad was originally a what? Before he was converted to Christian.. and then he became a Muslim? Laughing


If anything you want to say about Islam.. you can't quote Qur'an or hadiths to support your claim, it's all going into dustbin.

How on earth you want to talk about Islam and Muhammad and you won't quote a single Qur'an verse or hadiths? Laughing. . Till you get sense.. then quote me




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If you don't know the reason why shia and sunni are at war with each other, as expected, you can't understand why catholic and Protestants and Jehovah Witness are at war with eachother.
You even say the difference between Jehovah witness and Catholic is not much? Who the hell is this kid saying nonsense lol

You are calling your father's age mate a kid. Learn manners. I don't regard the Quran as a holy book. You quote the Quran to validate your lame claims. I don't need to quote any book to validate logic. Only people who choose ignorance in this age remain ignorant. Google contradictions in the Quran and weigh properly your holy book. Again I don't regard the Quran or the Bible.

All Islamic practices were practiced by pre Islamic polytheists from Ramadan fast to periodic prayers and etc. Islam is Christianity fused with pagan practices of Mohammed's clan. Hajj was pagan practice, Ramadan was pagan practice and etc. What is left? You don't need more than basic common sense to come to the right conclusion. Who needs Quran verses to know Mohammed learnt about the virgin birth and Jesus prophet hood from Christians? Just a little research and you know Ramadan fast was in place thousands of years before Mohammed etc. You don't need the hadiths and the Quran. You need common sense

ShaheedBinAliyu:
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Your ignorance is very loud.

Judaism isn't religion of moses and Christianity isn't the name of religion of Eesa.
Muhammad was never converted by anything.

From the first prophet to Eesa.. they all came with same message.. WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE.

Muhammad is the last prophet, Hence the completion of religion is on him.
Go read suratul baqorah


Christianity and islam fight is AQEEDAH. Jesus is not God nor son of God nor holy spirit.


Protestants and Catholic fight is just for MONEY. They're both pagan. Worshipping Human beings (jesus and others)

You are the ignorant one otherwise you would have known that early Christian sects did not believe in or teach trinity. How then were they different in teaching from Islam? Trinity only became a thing in the fourth century. Islam is anti trinitarian Christianity fused with the pagan practices of Mohammed's people. He was converted by christians and he then added the practices of his own people to create a new sect just as did many before and after him.

Are Jews Muslims? If no then the prophets before Mohammed can't be considered Muslims. Muslims are those who try to convert others, have a holy book and fight over God. Only Christians were like that before Mohammed. No other so called prophet of Allah apart from Mohammed behaved like that. They lived in a world that followed common sense.

However little, there are doctrinal differences peculiar to each Christian sect. What is the fight over between Shia and Sunni? The difference between JW and Catholic is not much different from between Islam and Catholic

honesttalk21:
Wow! There is no historical evidence to support the claim that Khadijah was Christian or part of a nunnery. Muhammad pbuh’s understanding of Jesus aligns with typical 7th-century Jewish-Christian beliefs in Arabia rather than indicating any conversion. Assertions made without sources isn't history
Trust me isn't evidence.

When I find what I read I will post it. Mohammed's understanding of Jesus aligns with Christian beliefs not Jewish-Christian beliefs. All the good impressions he had of Jesus came from Christians and not from Jew-Christians. Jews did not have any good or positive impression about Jesus. There is nothing like Jew-Christian

honesttalk21:
Stop making this false claim without evidence. Who was the Christian that converted Muhammad pbuh and where? Give traceable reference.

Do you know his wife Khadijah the business woman that was his employer was a Christian and according to reports spent her last years in a nunnery? I however can not find where I read that online again. If Mohammed was not a Christian, how did he come to believe in the virgin birth and that Jesus was a prophet? If you say God told him, no academic mind will take you serious. Was it also God who told him his own name and etc?

The bandits can not win in the long or short term. They are fighting a lost battle

ShaheedBinAliyu:
So Christianity was originally a sect from Jewish religion (moses) abi? Lol

Yes it actually was or how could it have been possible to share holy books? The first Christians were Jews and they were trying to reform Judaism according to their persuasions. The Jews resisted and persecuted them from the onset. In the same way Mohammed was converted by Christians. He accepted their teachings on Jesus and Islam was never persecuted by Christians originally until much later. The fight between Christianity and Islam is not different from the one between Protestants and Cathoiics

EmekaA125:
Onitsha population in Anambra alone is bigger than the whole Ekiti State.

Anambra together is double the population of Ekiti according to NIN data. If more than half of Anambra resides in Onitsha which is probably correct then your assertion will be correct

budaatum:
Made Ibadan land to be cheap is your way forward instead of increasing your pay?

The wind might not quite be behind that force, if you ask me lawani.

The way forward is to restructure the real estate sector in high income countries in particular and in highbrow areas in general so that wages can even up

budaatum:
Ehn now, but land where I live is not cheap like Ibadan land na, wetin make I do.

But do you not know that there are some people living in Ibadan earning London wages?

Remote workers are insignificant in the mix. Land will have to be made cheap by force. That is the only way forward

budaatum:
Lawani! What have I done to make you hate me so much that I should take a pay cut and come down and earn £36.82 a month, when I want to help you fight Nigeria to pay you more?

You do understand that £36.82 is like 2½ hours minimum wage where I am, right? Like the price of a meal in a average standard restaurant?

Rent is what is driving wages up in the high income world if your rent is same as Ibadan rent then nobody will pay you double Ibadan wages. On average

Kobojunkie:
I am not certain where that specifically came from, except Mohammed copied that from Jewish traditions that are taken from the Talmud or the Misnah but definitely not the Torah or the Injeel.🥱🥱

The fasting that is lent, which is associated with Christian traditions, is typically set at 40-days and is connected with the erroneous notion that the time from the Passover supper to the day the Holy Spirit showed up was 40 days.

The pagan origin of Ramadan

https://rrimedia.org/Worldviews/Islam/History-of-Islam/ArtMID/1458/ArticleID/98/The-Pagan-Origins-of-Ramadan-Fasting

budaatum:
That does not mean we should accept being a fraction, because we are not fractions.

It is the high income world that needs to come down and not us

budaatum:
Be fair lawani. Wages in Nigeria is a fraction of what is paid in western world too.

Nigeria's minimum wage is ₦70000 a month, which is £36.82 a month. Minimum wage in London is £14.80 an hour. You do the maths.

Cost of power too is a fraction, cost of beer is a fraction and etc

Rutherinspace:
You actually have a good understanding of economics and economic evaluation.
Many people don't understand these concepts.

Thanks. I studied passionately and personally for years before reaching my conclusions

mikeapollo:
Nigeria, a country of 220 million plus dragging relevance and performance with South Africa, a country of 65million population.
Shamelessness par excellence!

The world bank has stated that Nigeria remains the biggest GDP in Africa. That a mansion that costs 50k dollars in Nigeria is being sold at 200k in SA does not mean the SA has a bigger GDP than Nigeria. It just seems so

It is unfortunate but that is how Nigeria is for now

Bastiver:
Why is America GDP higher than China and India GDP combined.
Population only play part of it.

Services that cost less than ten dollars in China or India cost more than 100 dollars in the USA.

Kobojunkie:
While keeping old traditions is part of what makes a thing similar to roots, it is hard to argue along those lines alone in this because Islam holds on to several other non-Christian traditions as well. 🥱

For instance, the worship of the stone at the Kaaba comes from the tradition of worship of Idols that predate Islam. Even the tradition of ambulating and then kissing the black stone, referred to as the Hajj by Mohammedians predates Islam. Mohammed tried to have all other Kaabas destroyed, but didn't totally succeed. The Kaaba, dedicated to Zoroaster and other local idols in Iran, which dates back about 2500 years, still exists to this day. We don't know if the former occupants of the Kaabas destroyed by Mohammed prostrated in the same manner that Mohammedians do today, or if the former worshippers at the current Kaaba refurbished by Mohammed for his own religion worshipped in the same way that Mohammedians are tasked with today. 🥱

If you have ever visited a Buddhist temple to see Buddhists pray, you will find that many of their posturing are also similar to what you find Mohammedians doing regularly. So, it becomes hard to definitively claim that Mohammedians merely copied ancient Christian prayer rituals. This is my take on this, at least.🥱

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Another way to consider this is to consider that at one point, Mohammed is written to have worn his own hair as the Jews and Christians did during his time, but after he fell out with them, he switched back to patting his hair again like the pagans - Sahih Bukhari 7:72:799. Surely you can see how ridiculous it would be for us to argue along this line in determining whether Mohammed's belief was in alignment with the religion of Christianity or not. 🥱

The 30 day fast too existed before Mohammed

Igbophobia:
You don't really get it do you? He said Igbo, you jumped a loop to SE. Igbo is not limited to southeast. The Nigerian tri.ck of narrowing Igbo nation to SE has already failed. If you're sm.art, that's what this thread is all about.

Read my post again. I did my estimates for Igbo land in SS and SE leaving out Benue and Kogi and etc since Igbo land in those places can not even have 500k people

LagosOrigin:
Igbo is the biggest and most successful tribe in Nigeria

The facts are there for all to see.

They tried to use politics to divide us because of our intimidating huge population but E no work.

Igbo is one.

This belief is part of what is causing problems for Igbos and many Igbos happen to believe it. By NIN registration figures SE is eighty percent of Lagos state. This means SE is around 18 or 19 million if Lagos is around 23 million. Rivers and Delta also have population in Igbo and Igboid land maybe a total of 6 million since Rivers as a whole isn't more than 8 million and Delta is not more than 6 to 7 million. Total population in Igbo and Igboid land in SS and SE is around 25 million and it contains millions of non Igbo. How many Igbos in Lagos? No census but give them 2 million. All other places 3 million. If you remove non Igbos living in Igbo land, you will have less than 30 million Igbos in Nigeria

It is better for Nigeria to breakup for everybody to know their true weight. If there is an Igbo only country today in west Africa it will rank below Ghana in population even after adding PH, Asaba and etc

If what you claim is correct, it will show up in number of professors, number of billionaires, number of Nigerians with published works, number of captains of industries, leading researchers, successful and decorated musicians, music that top charts and etc but it does not because the population base is not there

franvincoop:
A Christian Christian ticket is indeed possible if a Northern Christian is the Presidential candidate.
I dont do ifs and buts.


That is how Nigeria is.
No, thats how you think Nigeria is.

While you are ignoring what Muslim Northerners are saying, let me inform you how much Tinubu has changed Nigeria through this Mumu ticket.

Firstly, there will never be a Northern Christian Presidential candidate in Nigeria ever, impossible from all the mainstream political parties because its electoral suicide in the Muslim North.
Secondly, Tinubu mumu ticket victory has made it impossible for even a Christian VP because you can afford to lose your home State and Christian states and still become President.
The answer is in plain sight, bulk votes from the Muslim North.
What then is the use of a Christian VP when it can be politically correct but is a masterclass in election loss in today Nigeria?
Tinubu is a living proof that Christian votes don't count and if there was ever any silent agreement on a Muslim/Christian ticket and rotation in Nigeria, that agreement is invalid.

It is much easier for a Southern Muslim to become President than a Southern Christian.
Even Okorocha will beat Obi blue black in the Muslim North in any election.


One quick question,
Considering Obi failure to get votes in the core Muslim North in 2023, do you agree that if Peter Obi was a Muslim, he would have won the 2023 elections?

Tinubu has used Mumu ticket to destroy and divide Nigeria for ever cuz from here we are only going downhill, he has religiously destroyed the concept of national spread in elections, the 25% in 24 states provision in winning elections in relation to religion.
The Muslim North is willing to vote a Southerner as President but only a Southern Muslim.

If the ticket is zoned to where they dominate then a Northern Christian can indeed win the primaries of a political party and the person can win since it is no different than an Obasanjo or Jonathan winning. I wonder how you don't see this. Again if a major party presents a Northern Christian the person can win because Nigeria is not for Muslims alone. That Northern Christian will have to choose a strong southerner who can end up being a Christian as well. When Gowon chose Awo as vice why didn't the Muslims revolt? After Awo he still chose another Christian. Nobody revolted. Stop deceiving yourself that a Christian Christian ticket can not win election.

Kano predominantly Muslim voted Awo who was a Christian. So your theory that Northern Muslims only vote southern Muslims is not correct. Awo could have won. It was only a slight miss

Obi contested in a party with no structure. He had no agents in thousands of polling booths. You can't use Obi as a standard

Buccalcavity2:
Correct guy! It is why GDP PPP is appropriate in this case to adjust for exchange rate vagaries...but mrvitalis will never understand!

These are people who know the meaning of GDP

nairalanda1:
Then there is the massive underpayment by most nigerians, and most nigerians thinking that electricity should be cheap.

We had a lot of investment in GSM in part because one cannot use a phone without paying something in periodically. The power sector in Nigeria doesn't have that advantage(Bypassing meters, anyone?) and it is hamstrung by less than 20% of people paying cost reflective tarrifs.

We got to change our attitude first towards paying for power before we can have actual power.

I hate making this argument, but the truth is, people like being paid. If companies and individuals are not making enough money to provide services and get paid , then issues would start.

Bypassing meters is a criminal offense and discos do go about checking from time to time. They have checked at my house like two times in the last one year. It is prison or heavy bribe if you are caught. If it is still a problem, then that is the fault of the discos. It should have stopped being a problem by now I live in Ilesa Nigeria and I use 6000 credit on my meter for more than six months though I live alone and have turned off my fridge, I don't put on the TV as well. In my view electricity is still very cheap and you can also control your consumption just like GSM. There is also nothing wrong in having unified rates. Have unified rates however high, meter everybody and it will be profitable for investors