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If truly the pastor is wrong(I can't say cuz na only one side I don hear, tho his silence is looking damning enough already).... I guess he should do like d op said

She brought this out to d public domain and not to a respected minister, why then is she keeping d evidence from d public domain and suddenly realizes dat it should be seen by only respected ministers?

Why can't we just be consistent in our dealings?

Not condemning her... And pls can someone tell Pastor Biodun to get his robust response?

This whole ish is becoming a sickening affair... And I bet God isn't happy..... Cuz ppl are messing His name up.... Be it d pastor or ese walters or both

When votes don't count.......

U said she doesn't move wt dumb dudes? How come she was moving wt U?

Oh well..... This will keep going on until Pastor B gives his long awaited robust response.....

I just pity d church of God(not coza,but d body of Christ) dat is d most hit by all these....

They should also tell them to send @ most an sms a day...... Just saying 8am-8pm isn't enough because they can decide to triple d no of msgs they send provided it's within the stipulated time frame....

If na in d days of moses eee, God for don strike plenty ppl.... Haba, so many falsehood

steveec122: Chris ubah, Andy Ubah and Dr Ifeanyi Ubah are different people, I heard Andy is the one seeking governors seat. Dr Ifeanyi got honourary causa Doctorate from FUTO, Ifeanyi is an investor.

Andy Ubah from Uga and Ifeanyi Uba frm nnewi all wanna eat d cake frm anambra....

berem: But he has a doctorate degree! how is he an illiterate? There's a difference between an illiterate and an uneducated person.

FUTO gave him an honorary doctorate degree, I was dia dat day... So, no be ph.D tins....

I wonder why anyone would wanna take life......

Naija politics and nollywood stunts....

Amazing

Nice one. Lol

I hope his robust response comes fast enough.....

And the girls too, u ppl should provide the evidence.. I don't like ppl saying we've got this n dat evidence n will bring it out if u deny.... What r u waiting for? U have already done some degree of damage, so get the evidence out if u've got any.... U came out to accuse someone(whether rightly or wrongly), provide the evidence n back d damn accusation up...

[quote author=Area_boy]Second service or no second service is really irrelevant here. Do you know how much balls it takes for someone to come openly and say things like that? I have no doubt it happened. How it happened and who led who to do what is also VERY irrelevant.

on a different note,

I see people saying "why didn't she run when he said come and sit on my lap"? Really? Really?

I'm not a pastor but I'm sure I can make 1 out of 10 girls come sit on my lap by just asking. 1 out of 10 is more than enough considering the number of girls in his church. Not everyone is as strong willed as you guys think, the onus therefore is on the older more experienced and so - called "God fearing" man to protect the young lady.

What a shame the way people rain abuses on the poor girl. For me, as long as there is a possibility that such a thing can happen I leave my mind open. But in this case, considering the power church members give to their pastors and MOG's, I believe Ese

The only way i can see this story otherwise is if Mr Pastor comes out as gay

My two cents[/quote]If you keep ur mind open, then you should know that it's possible and very easy for someone to fabricate such a story. am cross-examining her story(since that's all we have for now)................

Like i said, if the pastor is guilty, then there are things he should do. but before we proclaim him 'guilty' we should make sure he is 'guilty' in the first place....... I am not insulting the lady, bcuz the story could be true.......

iyatrustee: I do not attend Coza but I know they used to worship at metro plaza and only recently moved to thisday dome. Her story of a second service could be true as their new place of worship is bigger than the former one.

Do you know a OLD coza member? let the person tell us if they were having two services

She said she joined COZA after getting bored with her former church( and her friend was the one who recommended COZA).......... Then, she later said she was d only one in her family who wasn't going to COZA after she left....

Some inconsistencies if you ask me:

1: Sounds like COZA is her family church
2: How then did she join COZA cuz her frnd recommended it and not bcuz her family were COZA members?
3: Or did she join COZA and later convert all her family members?
4: At what point did she convert her family to COZA?


This is a point that is 'minute' but i hope she explains it or someone does to my confused mind...

I would love to hear the Pastor's side to the story. If the story is true, the pastor should step down, repent, take some time off before thinking about coming back as a pastor.

As for the Ese Walters, your story didnt mention where u involved your family(U only said you got a lot of stick from friends n family), and you didnt feel the need to apologize or even mention the pastor's wife(a woman u slept with her husband), to me, these aint signs of someone that wanted to be 'free'.... I really think the peace and freedom you 'said' you were seeking by going public has not been achieved....

Maybe the Pastor is guilty as accused or maybe d ladies(Ese inclusive) are banking on our emotions and hoping we won't pick some inconsistencies from the story or ask for some form of evidence... I have seen some well thought out smear campaigns n won't believe anything until it is proved beyond any reasonable doubt....

Am not holding brief for the pastor, if he is guilty, he should take some time off n go n repent.... My opinion

Bidam: But there are ladies coming out with so many damning allegation of sexual molestation from him,not once not twice.

Even Ilorin where he started from was not left out in this..

Op.. maybe you are just innocent and naive..shine you eye

Maybe the Pastor is guilty as accused or maybe d ladies(Ese inclusive) are banking on our emotions and hoping we won't pick some inconsistencies from the story or ask for some form of evidence... I have seen some well thought out smear campaigns n won't believe anything until it is proved beyond any reasonable doubt....

Am not holding brief for the pastor, if he is guilty, he should take some time off n go n repent and face the law.... My opinion

Just maybe, we need to chill until we hear all sides to dis story

I don't wanna 'say' anytin until all facts r established.....

Her story talks abt a second service.... And the OP says no second service @ coza... Wht we should do is to first find out if COZA was having two services like Ese walters mentioned.... We shouldn't attack Ese nor the Op yet

dem try

Nice cards

U can give her some money... A good amount if u feel she's worth it... But ur atm pin n other details? Haba!!!!!

Ninapha: Bia legend, akpo kwala nde eziobodo aha! Je kwa choro oche duu. Eziobodo pple hostile ikwa? ask ur students how they fought for u ppl during ihiagwa crises. Ihula nu nde uwa! Lol.

Pls ask about the eziobodo crisis of 2008.... I was a victim.... They burnt all my property in dat crisis....
Beat us wt cutlass, stones,etc(just like u would see in ancient movies), kicked us and finally rounded us up in front of dia EZE's compound to burn us... We were saved cuz dey couldn't find fuel nearby and wen dey went to get fuel, a police van arrived n saved us.... Dt was how we escaped.....

So, don't tell me about how loving they can be...... They burnt lodges(mine inclusive), spent more dan 2 hours trying to break into our lodge... Raided us before burning d remaining properties(the ones dey tot weren't important to them)....

Pls, don't get me started on eziobodo indigenes..... Them no get heart nor joy for dem lives.....

freecocoa: Aha so you are from ihiagwa?abegi there's nothing civilized about una.

Eziobodo ppl nko?
That community n hostility are brothers

Ninapha: . I feel for u bros. Why not live around futo road atleast to ease the stress. Or dat area to bad now. I know umezela wont be so cool now.

I lived along futo road all my futo life, d road was bad then a lil.... But u can't even compare then to now... Futo road eziobodo n river niger resemble well well now... I was dia a few months ago and the depth abi height of the 'river road' covered d bonnet and got to d windshield of an SUV... In fact, d students were surprised how d car managed to 'escape' the 'river'.... That's how bad the road is.. It's worse dan nekede-futo road(just dt it doesn't have d thickness of d mud @ nekede-futo road)....

That isn't to say rochas isn't doing very well......

And we keep losing d best we have