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Zebbosh:
Hi please is there a thread for K3 Visa cause I need to ask some questions.

You can ask your questions here.

jamoyakz:
what you need to do is to update your ds160 code on your profile and reprint your appointment confirmation slip. you don't have to cancel your appointment. please note I know it works for B1 and F1 but I think it will work for K1 too

It doesn't work for K1 Visa. I checked everywhere. Even went to the update profile section, no place to change or type in one's DS 160 number. That was why I cancelled my appointment to see if it will be possible after cancellation but still not possible.

sharpman1:
Congratulations on getting to this stage.

From what I read, I think they upload avaible times every month and the days are filled up in days.

So i suggest you keep checking everyday until you get an available date.

Thanks. Was able to schedule finally. However, I have a major challenge. I noticed the DS-160 form number on the scheduled interview page is the one I used for my B1/B2 Visa application. I looked for how to change the DS-160 form number to the current one I'm using for the K1 Visa. I even had to cancel my appointment and reschedule but still didn't succeed. Please what do I do?

Good morning Guys,

I have been contacted by the embassy concerning my K1 Visa application and was told to make payments, fill My DS-160 form and then schedule my interview date.

I have done all except scheduling interview date. Every time I go the ustraveldoc site to schedule an interview, it tells me there is no available appointment date. What could be the problem? Should I still wait or did I do something wrong?

jamoyakz:
hi guys considering the current high spate of visa rejection. I have two questions does K1 visa have a high rejection rate like other non-immigrant visa? secondly does travel history affect ones chances of being issued a K1 visa?

I can't say for sure if K1 Visa has a lower rejection rate compared to non-immigrant visa. However I know that one can qualify for K1 visa even if he doesn't qualify for a B1/B2 Visa.

No, travel history won't affect ones chances of getting a K1 Visa. However having travel history may boost ones chances.

odigiri1983:
Please enlighten me,is it possible for a US company to employ a Nigerian who resides in Nigeria,if possible under what type of US visa can the person qualify?

Sorry wrong thread. This thread is for fiance Visa. Do a search for US Work Visa.

sharpman1:
All these stories won't cut it except for number 5.

The other reasons (1, 2, 3, 4) will mean that the petitioner may not be able to support the beneficiary so the beneficiary can become a public charge.

Number 4 is not an excuse at all. There are lots of visa free countries where they can meet.

Exactly especially in the Nigeria situation. I totally agree with you. I am just trying to list out examples some applicants could give to justify extreme hardship.

sharpman1:
Beneficiaries can add whatever they think will boost their case and improve their chances. Information can not be too much with these people, they will simply ignore what they don't need.....

but i really don't think it is important to include the beneficiary's account statement unless it is specifically asked for.

Imagine if it was asked for during the interview and the person didn't come along with it. I think it's best not to take chances.

EgunMogaji:
That's a ridiculous scenario.

Financials form beneficiaries are not required for approval. Of course if a beneficiary should lay out the groundwork that solicits questions from the VO then he need to be prepared to back it up with proof.

This is akin to being stopped by a police officer who asks to see your drivers license and then you respond by saying you have no dead body in your trunk. Of course he would now want to see inside you trunk now that you brought it up.

In any case I'll yield to you guys.

EgunMogaji is out.

You are very funny with your example.

In the DS-160, it was asked specifically if you are working and how much you earn. It's not like you offered that information without being asked.

So if I'm to use your scenario, then the police asked for drivers license and also asked if you have any dead body on the trunk (probably because there is an intelligence that there's been a murder incident). In that case you have to tell him you don't and then it's either he believes your word or he asks to see the booth of your car.

Same for the form. It's asked if you are employed and what is your monthly salary. So if you decide not to lie as a civilised person and fill it in but forgot to bring documentary evidence during the interview. If the VO in his wisdom has reasons to doubt what you filled on the form regarding your monthly income, the VO might request additional documentation don't you think? That's were administrative processing comes in

EgunMogaji:
There was a case of a USC whose application was denied even though she live with the beneficiary for months here in Nigeria.

Get your arguments right bro. No one says meeting of couples is a sure guarantee for the K1 Visa.

No one has a clear case of what is approvable or not. One can only give ALL facts and let the applicants/beneficiary make a decision.

No one have a clear case of what is approvable. Only the VO assigned to that application has. However informed applicants should know what's not approvable. I know what's not 100% approvable and I know what could limit ones chance even if there's still a little chance (say 5%) of it being approved. The use of tradition or culture as a reason for a request for waiver in Nigeria is not approvable. Take that to the bank. Use of other reasons is possible but the success rate is very low.

Anyone reading this write up could wrongly assume that waivers are not approved in Nigeria. In fact, they are.

Waivers due to cultural or religious reasons are not approved in Nigeria. Waivers due to other reasons, there's a chance.

PS: The list is most definitely exhaustive.

I don't think it is. This is because it's not spelt out in Black and White. For instance, I could provide a few example to justify that meeting is difficult due to extreme hardship. I could say:
1. Medical Condition of Petitioner
2. Financial Condition of Petitioner
3. Medical Condition of Beneficiary
4. Financial Condition of Beneficiary
5. War Torn Area of Beneficiary
6. Difficulty in getting Visit Visa by Beneficiary
7. etc

EgunMogaji:
So you are saying that USEL gave a 221g stating that the reason the visa was not granted is because the beneficiary did into have a bank account?

I doubt this. Highly.

OK let me paint a scenario for you. Imagine someone who filled he earns millions per month while filling his DS-160 form and when the VO asked for his bank statement during the interview, he couldn't provide it. In that caese, the VO can place the K1 Visa on administrative processing pending when the applicant submits the bank statement.

EgunMogaji:
We are not.

You are limiting the usage of a water to cultural and religion. This is not correct.

I could expand on the other permissible justifications but I want intended applicants and beneficiary to read up on it.

The list is not exhaustive. I never said its ONLY cultural and religious reasons. I only listed the ones I know. I however said that providing cultural or religion as a reason doesn't cut it for the US Consulate here in Lagos, Nigeria. The application will most likely be denied

EgunMogaji:
This thread is specific for Nigerians, the waiver is available for applicants from all over the world.

The justification for a waiver is not limited to religion or culture. There are other reasons.

OK then. It appears we are saying the same thing.

EgunMogaji:
Excellent, I am also being practical.

You guys keep bringing up cultural differences. That's not the only basis for a waiver.

I also mentioned religion. I don't know if any country would have that in their laws (I definitely know Nigeria doesn't and this thread is specific for Nigerians). But if any country does, then that's also a justification for a waiver for the citizens of such country.

If the couple are requesting for the meeting waiver based on their personal values and convictions, then they are on a long thing as the US Consulate in Lagos would deny them outright. This is me being practical. This is what I'll tell my friend or my relative seeking guidance.

CrispyMentalist:
A K1 is still a non-immigrant visa even though technically it eventually leads to the beneficiary becoming an immigrant. However, this doesn't happen in all cases.Therefore, you need to satisfy all the requirements for a non-immigrant visa before you'll be issued one. I know a friend who went through the K1 process like I did and the petitioner eventually did not marry him when he got to the US. He ran out of Status when his marriage window lapsed. At that level, his stay became illegal.

The whole idea of being 'eligible" for a "visa" is to ensure you have enough motivation to return back to your home country when things go wrong. A job, property, etc., serve as some kind of proof that you'll return to your country if your fiancee doesn't marry you. That's why they typically ask you to provide "evidences that'll support your case"- they're not just limited to what they ask for.

Exactly.

To add to what you just said. Even though it's not explicitly stated that you submit evidence of ties to Nigeria, it's advisable you present such if you have any. It's not a crime to provide more evidence than required.

There are many cases of a beneficiary who is not working and has no financial records but was granted the K1 Visa. However there have been cases of refusal or administrative processing due to that. Imagine a scenario where the VO has little doubts of the petitioner being financially buoyant enough and also have little doubts about their true love for each other. Don't you think having strong ties to Nigeria will convince the VO that the beneficiary truly loves the petitioner and is willing to leave his country where he is doing well to be with his fiancee? Don't you also think that that strong tie is a form of assurance for the VO that the beneficiary would return back to Nigeria in case he breaks up with his fiancee before the 90days?

In summary, it's not a must the beneficiary must be working or must have a bank account for him to be granted a K1 Visa. It's not also a compulsory requirement to submit any documents proving such. But if one has a bank account with lots of transactions in it (even if the account is in the red) or is working, I advice he comes with evidence proving such. After all he submitted a DS-160 Non-immigration Form during his application for K1 Visa and in the form he provided info on his place of work and how much he earns on a monthly basis. It's not a crime if he goes with those documents as evidence to backup what he filled in on that non-immigrant form.

cc: sharpman1

EgunMogaji:
So it’s agreed that there’s a waiver. The waiver is not just for cultural taboo.

Yes there's a waiver. But we are being practical here. The US Embassy is aware of our culture and religion. They know our norms allow couples to meet before marriage. Note that "meet" doesn't imply sleeping together or meeting alone. The couples can meet in the presence of others. It's permitted in Christianity and in Islam. They also know it's permitted in our culture. So it will be near impossible for such waiver to be granted.

EgunMogaji:
Where are you getting the info that the foreigners bank account is needed?

It’s not. What would that prove?

The bank account of the beneficiary as well as that of the petitioner is needed. These are documents to show that the beneficiary will not be public charge on immigrating to the States.

The bank account documents of the petitioner is the most important as the K1 Visa will bring the beneficiary over to the States to depend on him or her

That of the beneficiary is not as important as the petitioner but might be needed as well. If he or she has other source of wealth such as landed properties, shares, bonds, etc, it's best he or she brings evidence to the interview as well. These would supplement that of the petitioner.

Remember also that even though the K1 Visa is an immigrant visa, it has some non-immigrant component as well thus it's adviced that documents that could demonstrate ties to Nigeria be brought as well by the beneficiary. They need to be sure that the beneficiary will not hesitate to come back to Nigeria should the marriage not work out .

EgunMogaji:
It’s not a must to meet your fiancé. There are waivers for that. Very hard to qualify but some have done it.

There are no waivers here in Nigeria as it is not a taboo in our culture for the couple to meet before getting married. The US Consulate here in Lagos knows this so any couple from Naija seeking such waiver is on a long thing.

jamoyakz:
does the amount in the beneficiary account matter? like is there a minimum amount the amount should have?

No, the amount doesn't matter. It's that of the petitioner that matters.

CrispyMentalist:
If I remember correctly, I think it took about a month or so for the National Visa Center (NVC) to contact the petitioner (my wife), informing her to have me schedule an appointment at the embassy.
Basically, the petitioner will get a mail from NVC informing him/her to have the beneficiary schedule an appointment, of course after filling out the DS- 160, undergoing medicals, etc.

PS: It's been about 4/5 years since I went through consular processing, so I stand corrected.

One month after your casefile was sent to the embassy? Wow, that's quite long. Why the long time between when the embassy receives the casefile and the scheduling of interview date?

Talking about scheduling of interview dates, I hear the closest date is around March (for Visit Visa). So after one month wait, one still have to add additional four months for the interview? Or is the dates for K1 Visa different from that of B1/B2 Visas?

Guys, please what's the next step to take after nvc contacts the two love birds (K1 Visa applicants) informing then that their casefile has been received at the US Embassy?

Do they wait to be contacted by the Embassy? How long should they wait?

Or do they go ahead and fill the DS-160 form and book an appointment date?

Are they supposed to choose an appointment date or is it the embassy that chooses the date?

Please I need guys who have gone through this process to assist.

jamoyakz:
thank you so much is the bank statement of the petitioner?

Both petitioner and beneficiary should present their bank statements.

jamoyakz:
place from current employer. I saw the documents required for k1 visa on uscis website

I think it's the tax return of the petitioner (the US citizen) that they are asking for. But if you as the beneficiary have tax clearance, fine and good. But the compulsory documents required of you the beneficiary is the medical report, police clearance, divorce certificate (if previously married), birth certificate (from NPC), bank account statement, and evidential documents to prove you have met your fiancee and that you love him/her.

Police clearance is not difficult to get. You can get it same day within few hours.

Christyade15:
How long will it take for US citizen father filling for his daughter that's above 21years? Pls I need a prompt response house. Thanks

I'm sorry. This thread is for K1 Visa.

jamoyakz:
is police report important in K1 visa process and most the report only gotten in Ikoyi?

Yes Police Report is very important. It must be valid at the time of issuance of the K1 Visa and must also be valid at the time of entry into the US. Police Report/Certificate has a validity of 1 year.

For Lagos, it's gotten in Alagbon but for other States, I don't know where it's gotten. Perhaps others could help with that.

@Torontoparrot and @Beautyaddy

You guys are both right. I must have misunderstood the use of the word mustn't. I have always thought mustn't meant that "it is not a must". Now I know better.

I'll edit my posts to reflect what I really intended to say. Thanks for pointing it out.

Chapecoense:
Nice thread, I have a question: Can the US citizen Use a joint sponsor if they have an income that is not sufficient enough?

Yes they can. There's a section provided in the Affidavit of Support form for that. However, I personally feel the use of joint sponsor may weaken one's application. But no application is perfect, the applicant that used joint sponsor may demonstrate strength in other aspects and thus get the K1 Visa.

Torontoparrot:
i asked because i read that they must not meet in Nigeria in your write up repeatedly and at another point you wrote that wherever they meet doesn’t matter. this two contradicts each other to me.

They don't contradict at all. Perhaps it's the interpretation that you got wrong. When I say they mustn't meet in Nigeria, I'm not saying they will be disqualified if they meet in Nigeria. No. I'm only saying that they can choose to meet anywhere, Nigeria inclusive. But it mustn't be specific to Nigeria alone.

The word "mustn't" is sometimes misunderstood and misinterpreted. If I had said they must meet outside Nigeria, then I'm wrong. But I said they must not meet in Nigeria, that's different from saying they must meet outside Nigeria. All I'm saying is that it's wrong to say they must meet in Nigeria. Get it?

More so is there anywhere it was stated they must not meet in Nigeria?

No and neither is there anywhere it was stated that they must meet in Nigeria. So the message is simple, they can meet anywhere: Nigeria, Togo, Antarctica, Sambisa, Madagascar, etc. It mustn't be in Nigeria neither must it be outside Nigeria. Hope it's clearer now.

Modified
On a second look, I think I'm the one who misunderstood the true meaning of mustn't. My English teacher really misinformed me . I have modified my original post to truly reflect what I intended saying. Thanks for bringing this up. We learn everyday.

sharpman1:
Ha! Me I don't know o. Maybe peeps that have applied for two different types of visas can help.

Yeah, I hope they get to see this thread and help a brother out.

@Lalasticlala
@Justwise

I think this thread should grace the front-page when the time is right so we could get more viewers and participants.

Torontoparrot:
must not meet in Nigeria? why if i may ask

Why must it be in Nigeria if I may ask as well?

The most important thing is that the two meet in person and are sure that they love each other. Wherever they meet is of no substance.

Beautyaddy:
That is not correct. They can meet anywhere as long as they don't get married before processing the K1 visa and they can prove that the relationship is genuine that will lead to eventual marriage once they get together in the US.

You just reemphasized what I said. Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote. I said they can meet anywhere. It mustn't be in Nigeria. The most important thing is that they meet and are in love with each other and are ready to get married in the US within 90days after getting the visa.