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BascoVanVeli:
This is about current form not how many old players still playing u can name. Gyan is still being called for Ghana and he plays in China. We need to start learning from people instead of insisting on being stuck in one way of thinking. Buffon probably has grand kids and he still plays for Juventus and Italy. Every great team needs a mixture of youth and experience.

It's not about one way thinking , it's about the philosophy of the coach "building a team for the future " Martins has been scoring almost in every match in d MLS but in a weaker league compare to d standard of league in Europe .Based on d standard of the league and d age of martins was d reason for this argument . The footballing career of keeper and defenders can't be compare to that of a striker , and more so the Gyan u mentioned was not even listed among the best African players also Martins . If they re very good as u guys have been clamoring they will not be overlooked

Oliseh should bring in Isaach success to replace Emenike , Keep igbonu , see if he can be better , try Sone Aluko , if he can fit in also , Babatunde Michael .For defense line ,let of all of them play in their natural position ..... But Omeruo and oboabona pairing seems to be the best so far , Madu should bench Echejile , plays from the left back and Balogun plays from d rb position ,EKong and Ambrose can stay on d bench .

The computer fail to see that the blues is going down , they should go and play championship .

Icon4s:
Icon4s = icon4ss. I use icon4ss when icon4s is on ban.

Yes we are nt there yet. A phrase that almost made safarigirl, thegoodjoe, theupernerd, bascovanvelli and co break my head.

I guess Iheanacho is d only player that is there already.

Infact when I read that phrase , I just smiled . U drag that argument for days . In other words come and finish what u ve started ..... drag u to the under23 thread .

@ Joseph .Are u saying martins will do the magic when he's been called upon ? the same way u guys clamor for Ike Uche , u mounted the pressure for Keshi to invite him he was invited and nothing concrete to show for it , martins is aging fast and Oliseh doesn't want to use and dump , base on his philosophy , "building a team for the future " forget it! Martins belong to d past . Don't forget Yakubu was also banging goeals for the Chinese lease consistently when he joined them . Why can't u just stick to d young blood philosophy that everybody wanted . In this aspect our voice should speak for us . We want young blood in d super eagles not the rookies .

joseph1013:
You are shifting the argument. That was the bone of contention. The bone of contention is why a player that is playing well is not invited to the national team eve when he has made himself available. He mentioned Drogba, and I mention Pirlo. It'd be cool to know that Drogba is no longer invited because he quit the Ivorian team, not because he is playing in MLS.

The point is, if a player is playing well and has something to give, invite him. What does age have to do with it? Is the Super Eagles an U23 team?

But Martins has been given the opportunity during Keshi's time he failed , but let's see if Oliseh will give him same opportunity , he has not been consistent for the super eagles .

joseph1013:
[b]You shoot yourself in the foot. Let me list out players in MLS still playing for their national teams:

- Andrea Pirlo (Italy)
- Kaka (Brazil) He is still being called up.
- Giovani dos Santos (Mexico)
- Clint Dempsey (USA)
- Brad Evans (USA)
- Sebastian Giovinco (Italy)
- Kevin Doyle (Ireland)
- Harrison Afful (Ghana)
- Fabian Castillo (Columbia)
- Laurent Ciman (Belgium)

You see the box you put yourself into when you generalize?

I don't get where you get the theory that as soon as you start playing in the MLS, you should no longer be called up into the National team regardless of your performances. There are many players playing in Spain, England and Italy that are not called up into their National teams, should we say that's because these leagues are not competitive?

And please, where did you get your FACT that the MLS is not as competitive as the lower leagues in England? While this is not true, I will still like to see your source. MLS is not competitive yet its players beat Bayern Munich last year. Top MLS teams will compete favourably with teams like Swansea, West Brom, and Watford. Do you even watch preseason matches between teams from the two leagues?[/b]

Joseph , most of these players u mentioned are fast aging and if they refuse to leave football , football will leave them ....also u shouldn't have mentioned the 2 USA players cos they re playing in their local league . Everyone of us knows that the MLS is a place for the " about to be retired " . Let me give u one reason why players go to the MLS . Americans want their league to develop fast and gain popularity becos of the big names that is coming to d MLS so that the up coming players can garner experience from them , they re getting to that height now cos the rate of development is so high same thing with popularity , in every news now u read or hear something about them .the MLS , the Chinese league and Japanese league fall in the same category .... But the japan league Payless money to the retiree .

@homesteady ...next month , we should be playing the word cup qualifier against Swaziland .

icon4ss:
Obafemi Who? Then we can as well invite Yakubu Ayegbeni, John Utaka, Obinna Nsofor, Shola Ameobi, Osaze Odemwingie, Taye Taiwo, Chidi Odiah, Yusuf Ayila and the likes cos dat is d generation he belongs to and nt this generation. We are building for d future bro.

Hahaha ... But I don't know why people had refused to let go ....Martins is now a pensioner , he should enjoy his days in MLS . We don't really need him like the way people are clamoring .

icon4ss:
I dnt think i can lay my hands on any link bt that was in d news early last week when Victor Moses asked to b excused for fear of injuries.

On d backline I have always been of d opinion dat since we have Leon Balogun now Ambrose should go back to his central defencive position. Ambrose should b made to pair up with Omeruo at Centre back while Obaobona and Troost-Ekong deputise for d duo. Leon Balogun can play his natural right back. Hey! bt I thought Shehu Abdulahi used to play in d midfield (2013 FIFA U20 & 2014 CHAN). Oliseh has converted him to a right back which he did excellently well. For our left back, I think Echiejile's game has moved some steps backwards and so I would like to see more of Kingsley Madu in dat position. 4 or 5 members of dat defence are U23: Kingsley Madu, William Troost-Ekong, Kenneth Omeruo, Abdulahi Shehu and Wilfred Ndidi.
Consider these 5 Centre Forwards: Imoh Ezekiel, Aaron Samuel, Isaac Success, Taiwo Awoniyi, Junior Ajayi. All are U23.
Dnt even let me mention d wingers, attacking and central midfielders.

A very strong U23 team loading.....

Let's wait and see how d event unfold .

icon4ss:
Oliseh has come out quickly as usual to threaten nt to invite Victor Moses again as long as he remains coach. We cannot b losing our key players due to hasty decisions of Oliseh. I know d NFF will come into this one again. Oliseh must invite Victor Moses for our next month's WC qualifiers. I will also like to see Sone Aluko and Michael Babatunde back in dat midfield as Rabiu and Obiorah are nt measuring up.And I think its high time d coach lets go of Emenike. We have waited enough for him to regain form. Oliseh should give dat spot to any of Aaron Samuel, Isaac Success or Imoh Ezekiel.

Do u have any link for the threat? I think Oliseh should invite Sone Aluko and Babatunde Michael , Michael is fast and can do a lot of damage with his skills , we need Isaac Success to replace Emenike . And we need a very good keeper to stand in that position to compete with Carl IKeme , d defense line need little adjustment , but when all of them are fully fit we can have solid rock in the back line

icon4ss:
U forgot to mention Saviour Godwin that kept Simon Moses on d bench for much of d FIFA U20 WC. Alex Iwobi has also joined d list of wingers. And all are elligible to play for the U23.

Did anybody say we missed a big chance by Jordon Ibe chosing to play for England. Nops i dnt think so cos Simon and Saviour are better than Ibe.

My bad! #Na Godwin Savior is another machine , we have so many talents in that department , Jordon Ibe will have to go and queue even when he changes his mind .

blueto:
I think victor has developed apathy for the National team by repeatedly failling to honor the recent call-ups. he is now a mudslinger to his own staunching disposition and reputation with his indifferent mindset.

I am greatful we now have other stupendous replacement for him. No one can care about his absenteeism anymore.

Bro , I don't think so ....Moses had a minor knock and he did informed the coach officially about it ....let's just accept him. With his present form and skills Oliseh will be left wit so many options in the wing and I wish to see the 3 wingers on the pitch , either simon or victor Moses playing the free role , let enjoy fast counter attack for the first time in d super eagles .

terzurum5:
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Siasia In Belgium To Woo Moses For U-23 Eagles
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https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/moses-simon1.jpg
Exclusive By Johnny Edward:
Comple tesportsnigeria.com can exclusively report that Nigeria U-23s‎ coach Samson Siasia is in Belgium to woo Gent winger Moses Simon for next month's CAF U-23 Cup of Nations billed to hold in Senegal.
Siasia who recently named his home-based squad is desperate to add the former Flying Eagles star to his pool but wants the player's assurance before including him in his foreign-based squad for the competition.
"Siasia has spoken to Simon ‎on his availability for the competition but I don't know yet if the player consented to his proposal," a source in the Super Eagles camp revealed to Comple tesportsnigeria.com.
Simon who has scored twice in four international games for the Super Eagles has also been linked with a move to EPL side Tottenham Hotspur.
The Nigerian international has been impressive for the Sunday Oliseh side since making his debut for the three-time African Nations Cup winners.
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www.completesportsnigeria.com/siasia-in-belgium-to-woo-moses-for-u-23-eagles/
CC: lexyman, icon4ss, AIG07, eterisan, Bascovanveli.

Good one bro , Simon has so much to offer .... And he's still very young ,funny enough , there is Oghnekaro Etebor in that wing too , and 2 others , all of them can play from the left wing . I foresee the under 23 team becoming the indomitable team soon .

AIG07:
2 goals 4 caps.

Now that there is competition in the wing ....victor Moses , Simon and Musa have to be more lethargic in their approach . What a healthy competition to put the team ontop .

Sia1 should not waste time to put Moses Simon on this list for the Olympic qualifier , the guy has got what it' takes to unlock any stubborn defense .

This op made me remember this quote "“Politicians are like warts on the body of society. And the only thing worse than warts are lawyers and lobbyists.
” .

terzurum5:
*opens mouth very wide to laught*
Atleast I succeeded in drawing your attention to this piece of news. A lot of persons where wondeing why Taiwo Awoniyi was yet to make his debut, so when I saw this, I decided to do the needful. Safarigirl, you must come out of your self imposed ghost mode ooo. Come out and prove to these people once more that you better than what the think about you. Come out nooooooowwwwwwwwmmmm!!!

Pls give this duty to Safari , she should always give us update about Awoniyi 's performances .

Pls return as a goal keeper trainer , u re too good to quit ur duty . We have somany cats (young keepers) looking forward to be like the super cat ....Enyeama we will miss u .

Danycrusoe:
Badly Is A Compliment To What The Eagles Displayed On Thursday. They Played Woefully. About Congo Being Our Problem U Are The First Person To Educate Me On That.
An Not Sure About The Kick Off For Tomorrow's Match But The Best Way Not To Miss The Match Is To Sit In Front Of Tv And Start Tuning From One Station To The Other Starting From Six (6) Pm. It Will Be Difficult To Miss The Kick Off That Way

We will be glad to have a draw from them . But the funny thing about super eagles is that , anytime we are meeting a big team , they always up their games and play decent football .they may spring up surprises tomorrow . In that aspect I think we need to a good team psychologist to help them .

Danycrusoe:
Glory Be To God In The Highest, Everything Is Fine Thank You.
Talking About The Loss To Doctor Congo As People Over Here Call Them, I Expected It Expecially With The Oliseh V Enyeama Crises bt am ova it tho.
Expect A Better Performance Tomorrow Against CameroOn But Dont Expect A Win Be Thankful If We Get A Draw

Do u know that Dr Congo has always been Nigeria problem since the time of Westerhoff ? But the painful thing was that we played badly ... Until we have a good attacking midfielder we will struggle .

safarigirl:
there were no swords until someone thought it smart to accuse others of childishness based on 5 pages of over 60 at his FIRST POST. If that's not stoopid I don't know what is. Whatever happened to "hey guys, it's my first post here, S/O to lexyman et al, but I kinda disagree with safarigirl...." the annoying thing is that it's these same ill-mannered, thugs that think Enyeama was being arrogant to Oliseh, probably dem for break Oliseh head if they were in Enyeama's shoes

For the fact that I disagreed with u doesn't warrant this statement . U don't like the national team more than i do ... And if u know how well I love Keshi , u will understand that I am not a fan of Oliseh , but the position he occupied is more important than whatever point u re trying to prove here .

Arguero injured same with Silva , big injury woe has struck the team ....I hope iheanacho will see this as an advantage to take his chance .

Enyeama should apologize to Nigerians and his boss Oliseh for holding the team at ransom ... If he really wants to be part of the team .

joseph1013:
That example is GREAT to exonerate Oliseh. Dunga never informed Silva that he was removing him. He never did. He just got into the dressing room and realized that Neymar was given the band. It was alot worse than what Oliseh did.

Yet Silva didn't see the captaincy has his father's property to make noise at. He respected the decision, kitted up, and walked to the pitch to play the game. That's a leader. He know it's not by title or braggadocio.

Dunga said it in one of his interview before he got the job of Brazilian , that when he become d coach of the Brazilian , he will string Dunga of his captain-ship cos he behaved too big for the team. As soon as he got the job , the first thing he did was to choose a new captain .


But mind u , in terms of attitude off the pitch and on d pitch Neymar was not closed to being the captain ...but he has got the skills , the ability , and d positive attitude to winning the game .

Nice one Joseph u re being sport on !

Daninya11:
After trouncing Argentina 3 - 1 Yesterday in a friendly. I am optimistic they will replicates the success of the last triumphant u17 team led by Coach Manu Garba.

Bro ,don't expect much from them , Argentina has always been our training material at under 17 level . The real deal is the competition proper. I quarter final ticket will not be a bad performance ...my take

When will this matter be put to rest ? Enyeama is a hero and he has retired , Oliseh is the boss of the super eagles and he need to work seriously on the team . Can we move on?

@ op thanks for bringing this here , so many biased SE fans ranting all over the place .
I ve listened to the interviews, the one of Oliseh and that of Enyeama ,

Oliseh has done nothing wrong and Enyeama believes he has stayed with the team for so many years and he shld be accord with respect , whereas he has gone against they policy and rules of the teams . He wants to hold the team at ransom .


Enyeama should have stayed clear of the camp due to what he has passed through in recent time . He has has every right to be respected but not in the way he went about it ....

More so ,if they have stay off the press they would nt have blown this out of proportion .

He has done so well for the country and we still love him . Retiring honorably would have been d best .


Both parties that was involved managed the situation wrongly and I think they are regretting their action now .

That is the best way to keep him away from the organization till when the election is near .

safarigirl:
First off, I want all Nigerians to forget about qualifying for AFCON 2017, it won't happen with this rift.

Oliseh was wrong on all counts in this rift. The last player you should ever attack is the pillar of the team, the head capo, ask Didier Deschamps what Anelka did to him. Why pick on Enyeama? Enyeama has loyalists in that team that can and will rebel against Oliseh until he loses that job and they prove he was never meant to be a coach. Oliseh is displaying an arrogance he hasn't earned considering he's won nothing of note as SE coach.

And making Musa captain? Who will take orders from Musa? Is it Mikel, Emenike or the ousted Enyeama? Does Musa look like a leader? Apart from his scrawny nature, how old is he? Someone who can't even speak up when he's wronged, how will he speak on behalf of his team mates?

The only place Oliseh's myopic decisions will take he and that team is down. I just want him out ASAP cuz he's apparently not The Chosen One to bring sanity to our football.

I strongly disagreed with u on ur views , I am not in support of either the coach or the short stopper , but the comment u made about Musa , what u need to be a leader on the pitch is not dsame charisma that is needed to be a leader outside sport . Like you re mixing it up . Do u know that jayjay okocha was once the captain before he quit the national team? When jay jay was fresh in the the team , the thing he does best was to laughed at every scene , even when he failed to score in an empty net, he will just laughed it off ! For the fact that okocha took things lighter back then doesn't stopped him .but okocha grew to became one of the best midfielder in the world , and still he was d captain .and for Musa he can be better in fact any of the super eagle player can be d captain of the team provided they can shoulder d burden and stand up when it's necessary . Going by the Nff principles and Oliseh s appointment is to build a team for the future and he can choose his captain , a And for Enyeama , he's d best for now and he shld take things easy cos he has limited days to spend in the team . He would have done himself some good by completely staying away to mourn the mom and spend some good time with the family members , I think d fatigued of the burial ceremony has a lot to do with d attitude he has displayed . I will not blame Oliseh ... But d best way to handle the team is to keep the media away .

TheSuperNerd:
Of course he is. Sir Ade, Neymar is THE BEST PLAYER IN THE BRAZIL SQUAD. HE'S THE ONE THE TEAM TURNS TO FOR INSPIRATION IN BIG MATCHES.
That's basically why no dust was raised when Tiago silva was stripped of captaincy.

Same goes for Lionel Messi and Argentina when Mascherano was stripped.

But in Musa's case, I have to admit it, THIS ISN'T THE CASE. He's not the best player. He's not the player we look to for inspiration in BIG MATCHES. THIS IS THE TRUTH. THAT'S PART OF WHY I FIND HIS APPOINTMENT AS 'SUBSTANTIVE' CAPTAIN WEIRD.


But hey! I really got no problem with Musa aiiit. The issue here and right now is The attitude and demeanor of the other players(the followership) and Oliseh's authority as coach (this is under threat).

If we go by all these analogies then we should not have a captain aside Enyeama .... We don't really have a game winner , a player with good charisma , that can turn d table around in a difficult match .

But he has apologized and for missing the qualifier ...someone shld furnish us with the vital info.