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Patchesagain:you mean civil rule. ANC has been in affairs for 21 years despite massive failure in military and economy. |
snydergp1st:Since the SANDF is doing worse. http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-33889/ Sixty-two percent of SANDF facilities in unacceptable condition |
mzilakazi:Nigeria didn't help to help put pressure against apartheid, that's under reporting; NIGERIA FREED YOU AND UNSHACKLE YOUR CHAINS OF 400 YEARS OF SLAVERY. You didn't read your own link, I pity you. Mandela admitted failure and NIGERIA got your own southern African economic community to isolate you. What a crunching humiliation. Excerpts from your own source: a summit meeting of the twelve-member Southern African Development Community, summoned by Mandela to consider the Nigerian issue, decided to leave the question of further action against Nigeria to the Commonwealth. Eventually, South Africa quietly withdrew its support for the minority of two (Canada and Jamaica) in CMAG that continued to favour sanctions. Your words are just waste. South Africans are bad losers. |
agaugust:Thanks Oga. You're welcome. |
mzilakazi:Man!!!! Do you read your own links before posting them? Are you a born of a dog? You disgust me. I have never met such a subzero , nonentity in all my life: you keep quoting sources that contradicts you. You're an embarrassment to your clan, A reflection of the average Zulu , and a breathing failure. PLEASE READ THIS EXCERPT FROM YOUR OWN SOURCE: [b]African States and Organizations 27Despite the near unanimity of Commonwealth African states in both decrying the Ogoni executions and suspending Nigeria’s membership in the organization, the wider community of African states was never united by a common resolve to ostracize and punish the Abacha regime. Prior to the executions, the President of South Africa, Nelson Mandela, had sought to influence General Abacha and his associates by means of quiet diplomacy’ (Van Aardt, 1996). He tried, without success, to persuade Abacha to attend the Commonwealth summit, and was appalled by the undue haste and blatant disregard for African, Commonwealth, and world opinion with which the executions were carried out. Just as the summit was being convened in Auckland. Mandela then took the lead in urging the Western powers, particularly Britain, France, and the United States, to impose oil sanctions against Nigeria in order to hasten the end of military rule. Before long, however, it became apparent that Mandela had ventured beyond the African consensus for responding to Nigeria’s internal problem, and that he would be forced to retreat. The South African foreign minister, Alfred Nzo, was reported to have told a parliamentary committee that President Mandela had backed away from his hard line reluctantly because inaction by the Western powers was turning the issue into a conflict between Nigeria and South Africa. Nigeria’s West African neighbours, he said, were strongly opposed to sanctions that would harm the entire region.16 28South Africa’s isolation from the continental consensus was a discomfiting as it was unanticipated. Other than South Africa, no African country, indeed, no country outside of the proverbial Western sector of the world, had protested the executions to the extent of having recalled its ambassador in Nigeria (Van Aardt, 1996:115). Moreover, within a month of the Auckland summit, the Commonwealth’s authority, and that of Mandela, were being challenged in African countries. Thus, the highly respected secretary-general of the Organization of African United (OAU) warned against the isolation of Nigeria regardless of the prolongation of military rule in that country. A ministerial meeting of the Organization of Islamic Conference (an international organization comprising approximately 50 member-states, some 45 per cent of which are African states) called for dialogue with, rather than sanctions against, Nigeria. A conference of lawyers concerned with human rights in Africa decided to withhold judgement on Nigeria pending research by a delegation of its own. Within South Africa’s own region, its call for sanctions against Nigeria was opposed publicly by the president of Namibia, Sam Nujoma. Van Aardt (1996: 115) observes that a summit meeting of the twelve-member Southern African Development Community, summoned by Mandela to consider the Nigerian issue, decided to leave the question of further action against Nigeria to the Commonwealth. Eventually, South Africa quietly withdrew its support for the minority of two (Canada and Jamaica) in CMAG that continued to favour sanctions[/b] Although you're emotionally numb, but I can feel your shame across this platfrom. I have had you, disgraced, reduced to a sheer nonentity and a stark illiterate which is an understatement in portraying your intellectual handicap and destitution. |
mzilakazi:I told you to quote me. Stop shadow-boxing. Now tell us what tougher sanctions did the US implement and did it force Abacha to leave office. |
mzilakazi:If you aren't a teenager then you must be a girl. No one can be this _stupid and yet content. The commonwealth is an inconsequential group of former British colonies with no economic or political significance. That's why Mandela was desperate and anxious for an AU , UN and oil ban. None of which he got. Did the Abacha regime fall due to Mandela? Nope. Mandela was still a prisoner when Abacha was routing to become a civilian president. And after Abacha died, another military man, still took over until Mandela left office. But hey, im glad you still have some residue of shame left. You're now shifting from your laughable claims of Mandela's bringing democracy to Nigeria. You still owe our readers an apology for lying that Mandela got the EU, UN and AU to sanction Nigeria's oil. Tender your apology in your next post. |
snydergp1st:You lack so much grace to take a honourable bow. When you're out-fact , you will easily resort to "ignore" and blackmails. Only your facts can save you now. You bastards are the ones ruining this thread with your peanut size egos. Patrick, the slow-wits claimed south Africa trained Nigerian troops, that was fine. And I responded by posting valid links which showed that Nigeria trained the SANDF as acknowledged by your major general, Mofokeng. Mzilakazi, changed the game that Nelson Mandela brought democracy to Nigeria, a fallacy you fully supported and participated in. Then again, factually, I rubished your Mandela claims. with valid points .And you're here lamenting I derailed the topic. You are a product of waste and a buffoon. A classless _idiot with no sense of shame or honour. You're just a step higher than a rabbis-ridden dog. |
mzilakazi:Are you subtly admitting you tried to pull the wool over the eyes of your readers? Is that it? Cheap, lazy lies just to score an illusionary point? Admit you lied. |
mzilakazi:Don't hide if you feel you have got a point. QUOTE ME! Mandela took a stand against Abacha for killing the ogoni 9 and failed. Nigeria was suspended from the commonwealth which had a Nigerian, Emeka, as its President general or Sec-general. Can't recall fully. Mandela failed to get the UN or West to stop the Nigerian oil trade. Abacha led a host of African countries to isolate south Africa from African affairs consequently, South Africa was forced to change its tactics in Africa. That's a national scar, son. You need help with facts. |
mzilakazi:Listen, for me, intelligent and factual trolling is the beauty of social media. If you will endlessly and repeatedly prove that you're an irredeemable daft, then there's no use conversing with you. Your very source claimed the West couldn't oblige Mandela's call for oil sanction against Nigeria . Below is an excerpt from your own source: Mandela's new hard-line policy against Gen. Sani Abacha's dictatorship is a direct challenge to the Clinton administration and other major Western governments, which so far have refused to consider banning the purchase or trade of Nigerian oil. "I am not satisfied with the fact that they are not applying oil sanctions," Mandela said in New Zealand, where he is on a state visit. Mandela will try to bring his campaign for a punitive boycott before the U.N. Security Council, the Organization of African Unity and other international bodies, his spokesman said here. Clinton administration officials have said a unilateral oil boycott is highly unlikely, since it would hurt U.S. commercial interests and consumers. Nigeria is America's fifth-largest supplier of oil, and major lenders in the United States, Europe and Japan are exposed to the West African country's $30 billion foreign debt Mzilakazi, your brain is as wronlgy positioned as the ugly composition of your moniker. |
mzilakazi:I did read the source. I'm not a Zulu who dislikes written works. The first 2 paragraphs of your source is hinting on Mandela calling on the West to sanction Abacha regimes sale ofcrude oil for the killing of the ogoni 9. Did the West oblige Mandela? The answer is an emphatic NO with big letters. Abacha remained and died in power and another military man Abdusalami took over even after Mandela has gone out of Pretoria. So how did Mandela ,who has been in prison all his life when Tafawa balewa, Azikiwe, Shagari had all been democratic presidents and prime minister in Nigeria , bring democracy to us? You need to be cured of the malady of desperation. |
snydergp1st:Your brain is suffering from hallucinatory illusions too? Pity you. If you're drowning, south Africa -Nigeria relations won't offer you any straws to hold onto. Our help in squashing apartheid in south Africa really makes you feel so small. But relax, we want nothing back. We can breath . Meanwhile, you're a history destitute too. Nelson Mandela failed. He called Clinton to sanction our oil and Clinton refused. Instead Mandela got isolated in Africa for his pains. It was a cruel disillusionment out of prison after a lifetime. |
mzilakazi:Who will help a Zulu out of desperation? Who will equip this zulu-twerp and intellectual destitute with basic comprehension? But hey, I don't blame you one bit. The incident that you are quoting happened in 1996, just two years after the Boers brought you out of your Zulu huts. So , my boy, a slave like you can't teach me our collective history. Ironically, your big head didn't know that , that very period (1996) was one of south Africa's low points in Africa's diplomacy. A situation that made south Africa change and alter it foreign policy in Africa . After Nigeria ensured Africa isolated you. While south Africa was practising real democracy only in 1994 Nigeria's has had her democratic elections and governments since 1957. Nelson Mandela failed to convince the West to sanction Nigeria's oil. Clinton declined undiplomatically ![]() Then, the then military head of state in Nigeria, General Abacha, positioned the rest of Africa to isolate south Africa. It is known in history circles as the Nigerian debacle. That same military ruler ensued you had a _fucked up nations cup hosting. So much pity for a Zulu like you. The Boers successfully rewrote your history for you, because you know not. And I , Leslie has pointed the light to shine in your history-blinded face. I have brought you your history for you for free. Oh... And Abacha died in power. Your source didn't even scratched the surface of your claims. Pap-guzzling, history-deficient, pseudo-illiterate Zulu . |
mzilakazi:give me citations, please. Mind, I quoted a sandf major general Mofokeng. So it is Official as it can get. http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/ Back to you. |
agaugust:Hahaha that's sending a corpse to its final resting place. But @patchesagain is limping badly, barely surviving.[img][/img] Meanwhile, Major General Daniel Mofokeng head of SANDF foreign relations has heaped praises for the Nigerian military...excerpts below. South Africa praises Nigerian military for its apartheid-era help by defenceWeb, February 9, 11:54 pm The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) foreign relations head has praised the Nigerian Armed forces for its strong relationship with the South African military. Major General Daniel Mofokeng, head of SANDF Foreign Relations, said Nigeria was in the forefront in the struggle against apartheid and that the country made huge sacrifices for the liberation of South Africa from minority rule. Nigeria supported the then Frontline States organisation, which was established to achieve democratic majority rule in South Africa. Former members included Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe. According to the South African Institute of International Affairs, Namibia contributed an estimated US$61 billion towards the anti-apartheid effort between the 1980s and 1994. Nigeria played a pivotal role in establishing the United Nations Special Committee against Apartheid in the 1960s while ordinary Nigerians contributed financially to the anti-apartheid movement, especially in reaction to the 1976 Soweto uprisings. Mofokeng said that Nigeria also offered military training and support to assist the African National Congress. According to him, Nigeria's gesture helped shore up relations between Abuja and Pretoria. "I must say the relations between the two countries most especially before 1994; has been extra ordinary in the sense that Nigeria has been in the forefront in the anti-apartheid struggle. It assisted and trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I must say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed[b][/b]"
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Confessng:Bro , seems you need training as bad as those Nigerian soldiers. Did those civilians look like bokoharam or an armed enemy? A soldier that stoops down to the height of engaging in a physical duel with civilians is nothing better than an untrained, armed criminal using state powers to rob, steal and intimidate. In saner climes, those bunch of uniformed slow-wits would be dismissed and handed over to civilian courts for further reorientation. In an ordinary event such as the one in question, the soldiers are in no position to "subdue" anyone, it is a matter of traffic regulations and traffic authorities and not a military matter. Soldiers cannot subdue anything outside their sphere and the situation as described by the op is not within the scope of those soldiers to subdue. If those fools are half the men they claimed to be, then we should like to see greater zeal in dealing with national threats and terrorism bedevilling this country . |
MRLINGTON:I still wonder why Nigerians haven't seen this company for what it is: rapacious, exploitative, unethically restrictive and greedy. This is a firm that denied us per second billing, that charged to call its customer care (back in the early days of GSM ) while econet was doing it free. When the NCC introduced porting, porting out of mtn was sheer war. They practically frustrate subscribers who wanted out of their network. But millions of Nigerians still patronise the enemy in a veil. I have since ported out of this scam called mtn. |
More troubles for the Mobile telecommunications company as Uganda hammered the firm with a huge fine. [/quote]MTN Ugandahttp://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/more-troubles-for-mtn-as-uganda-fines-telco-622-000/226059/ |
classicB:Well said. That's reality in its most ironically bitter truth. Also a cheating wife has lesser control in her illicit relationship in comparison to a cheating husband. The consequences of a cheating wife far more outweigh that of a cheating husband and society, over time, has learnt to apply sanctions accordingly. |
chiddye:Shed the garb of sentimentality and done that of reality. No one is condemning immigrants but the policy by which German led Europe has employed in assisting these immigrants. First off, it is plain naivety to open your borders to a large group of immigrants without profiling. That is plain _stupidity. There are rich middle eastern countries who can fees 5 million refuges without bulging. Saudi Arabia, The UAE, to a lesser extent Turkey. But they understood the political reality of the situation. Donald Trump rightly called this group an immigrant of armies. Even in Germany Merkel's main party has fell off with her over the immigration crisis. It is the same reason The UK says nope, " we aren't opening our borders to immigrants that made it on foot to Europe ". Because in truth, Tey relied on Arabs in the UK who specialised on smuggling to get them thus far. If you claim, the terrorists were French citizens who left Europe to fight wit ISIL, how did they get back into the country without being detected? The only answer is through the large number of u profiled immigrants let in by Merkel. Why is France calling for the closure of its borders if the enemy is from within? Why is Europe asking for the re- visitation of the immigrants policy ? Why are Trump's critics eating their words? Politics and governance isn't charity nor is it run like naive morality . |
chiddye:The Washington Times has its headline Screaming : IS DONALD TRUMP RIGHT? http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/13/chaos-paris-police-report-shootout-and-explosion/ Mr Hollande has ordered the boarders of France to be closed down immidiately. Right Wingers have on Twitter bashed the open immigration policy. http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/right-wingers-use-paris-attacks-bash Since Europe's open door policy on Syrian immigration, terrorists within Europe have used their links to smuggle their folks amongst the larger immigrants. You speak of Greece being a soft target. Of what importance or political point is Greece if she were attacked? This is war and ISIS or Alqaeda would prefer Britain, France, Germany , US or the Scandinavians over a country like Greece. You're a political rookie with an overflowing emotional bank like Merkel. Also read : http://observer.com/2015/11/after-paris-attacks-new-york-city-councilman-retweets-far-right-french-leader/ Every political group in the West is calling on the re-visitation of the Syrian immigration policy. But of course you wouldn't see any correlation in that . You're politically naive and as sentimental as a school girl. |
And once again, Merkel ,a woman has led emotionally without a second thought to Long term consequences. She has taken the sentimental bait and has opened the doors to hundred of thousands of Arabs who are eternally an enemy of the west. Great Britain declined this madness of opening its boarders to Arabs but opted to airlift a profiled set directly from Syria but Merkel a true _bitch bullied smaller European countries into opening their borders to unprofiled and undocumented people from the heartland of extremism. |
IGBOSON1:Don't mind that attention deficit fool . |
Patchesagain:[/s] when will this plain _idiot be healed of the malady if inferiority complex? |
snydergp1st:Oh! So you have been on this thread since eternity spawning recycled myths and fables in a futile quest to heal your fallen national and personal self-doubt. You south Africans have the fobia for Nigeria imprinted in your DNAs. The Internet is a virtual sphere without boundaries but it still beats my imaginations why there are only South Africans amongst Africa's 53 nations who have been e-squatting on this thread with a feverish anxiety to prove their worth to Nigerians ![]() What are you afraid of? What are you dying to tell us, to show to us? For the past 4/5 _fucking yes. ![]() |
[s] Patchesagain:[/s] Bloody fool with no sense. |
snydergp1st:Shush, faggy. Your deep problem is of personal identity crisis . You have an issue with facts and you're a blind patriot with a heavy burden of ignorance. You're not only a clown, you're mired deeply in the mud of self-deception and a misplaced sense of self -worth. Your selective reading makes you one of nairaland's emerging idiotic buffoons. Now blow me away. |
Msauza:Your deductive reasoning is suffering from poor foundational structures. Own up, son of a Zulu. You didn't read the link to the end because it proved too much mental exertion for your pap brains. The link says you are a dry country, as dry as a menopausal wench. And on top of that your water infrastructure is epileptic. Phew! You guys even steal water in South Africa. ![]() Damn, your _ass must be oozing of stale sweat and last week's _shit ![]() Instead of owning up that you didn't read the link to its fullest ; you chose the ignoble part of proving your Zulu-ism through myopia and shameless repetitions. |
Msauza:It doesn't add to anything under context here. You said my link didn't prove my point and when I furnished you with excerpts on your weak infrastructure and dilapidation of supply links, you started jumbing about reigning insults on the writer and bringing points out of context. Zulus can't stay focused. |
Msauza:Still changing the focal point albeit desperately this time around. You said my link was wrong but I see you're now defending your country with that same link ![]() You see why zulus are forever intriguing to me ![]() |
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