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Sports / Re: Ese Brume wins Long Jump bronze medal at Athletics World Champs 2019. by liberalchick(f): 8:04pm On Sep 20, 2019
All DL championship winners get automatic qualification in their respective discipline to Doha.

GenBuhari:
Has it been confirmed, that she is in the team?

If so, then she is undoubtedly the favourite.

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Sports / Re: Ese Brume wins Long Jump bronze medal at Athletics World Champs 2019. by liberalchick(f): 7:23pm On Sep 20, 2019
She will be at the championship, she won the diamond league final.

GenBuhari:
You are right that Williams has world leading time , but she would not be at the championships she false started at the Jamaican national trials so she has not been included in Jamaican team for these championships.
Sports / Re: Ese Brume wins Long Jump bronze medal at Athletics World Champs 2019. by liberalchick(f): 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2019
Danielle Williams of Jamaica is the fave to win gold she has the leading time. However, yea hurdles can be tricky.

GenBuhari:
Event preview: Women's 100m hurdle

Top 3 season best of performers who would be at the championships are:
Janeek Brown. (JAM) : 12.40

Kendra Harrison (USA): 12.43

Tobi Amusan. (NGR) : 12.49

Harrison is also world record holder.

2013 World champion & reigning Olympic champion Brianna McNeal (USA) is also in the event, but is not running as well as she usually does going into these championships with season's best of 12.61.

Tobi's form coming into these championships and her ability to raise her performance on big occasions, is what I believe makes her amongst the favourites to win the gold medal.
Romance / Re: My Idea Of Feminism by liberalchick(f): 12:42pm On Sep 11, 2019
pansophist:


Haha, I can name more. Women enjoy something I describe as status-by-association. For example, special recognitions are given to the wife of men of high status, e.g Presidents (first lady), Kings (queen), etc. Men generally will not be recognized if their wife is of high status.

Furthermore, feminist are not fighting for equal-of-opportunity, but equality-of-outcome, something that is an impractical impossibility. Their reasoning goes like this. If there are more male CEO than female, then it is oppression and patriarchy, while completely ignoring the fact that perhaps, the reason why there are fewer female CEO is also the reason why there are fewer female truck drivers, miners, and construction workers? Many of the loud-mouthed feminist I know personally studied courses that are low paid, such as liberal arts, philosophy, international relations etc, but somehow, it is the fault of patriarchy that they are paid less compared to men who indulge in STEM mostly, and a high paying career.

Most importantly, this invinscible ''glass ceiling'' that they yap about is the very thing that makes men attractive to them. Women find succesful men attractive, and by nature, will not go for men lesser than them in the economical rung. And as statistic has shown, that since the inception of feminism, women happiness are steadily on the decline. They keep shooting themselves in the foot with third-wave feminism, but all it brings is chaos and more suffering to them. In the west, marriage is becoming a thing of the past, and men that actually want marriage do travel to third world countries that have not been affected by radical feminism to find a wife. Both genders are reaching a point of incompatibility.

Apples and Oranges.

You are comparing mental strength with physical strength, we all know the average man is stronger than the average woman. Unless you are saying men are more intelligent than women then your analogy doesn’t work.

Feminist have NEVER compared salaries of men across careers. In your example, feminists would compare the salary of a STEM woman to a STEM man of comparable education, experience and skill. Now why would it make sense to compare the salary of a liberal arts major to a STEM major? Do the men in liberal arts job earn the same as men in STEM jobs?

Please can you post these statistics that show women are increasingly unhappy since feminism started?

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Romance / Re: My Idea Of Feminism by liberalchick(f): 12:34am On Sep 11, 2019
Michellekabod2:

I myself condemned the act of chimamanda on Hillary and Beyonce. I personally love to do chores in my own home,I love to cook and cater for my home ,I don't enforce it on anyone.

The tone of this your post seems you are belittling the Nigerian women choice to fight for feminism only in mudane things and imply you feminists over there are fighting for a better cause..
The average nigerian lady isn't interested in politics and doesn't care much about earning equally with men. A naija girl's fufiled life is marriage and keeping her home , thus you shouldn't be surprised at the low energy they Invest in fighting for equal pays et Al...what's the cause of all this? Still stereotype! Sometimes fighting this stereotype of ladies only useful in marriage may be interpreted as overruling them of their choice to be house wives or not.
Advising a lady(not shaming) to pursue her career and her dreams doesn't mean one is stopping her from doing their choice. Alot of ladies need motivation

It wasn’t my intention for my post to come across as belittling, my frustrations didn’t translate well. I am
Nigerian and I get frustrated that debates about feminism is often about trivial issues.

I think you underestimate Nigerian women, they are more than capable to discuss issues/policies that promote gender equality.

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Romance / Re: My Idea Of Feminism by liberalchick(f): 10:07pm On Sep 10, 2019
Michellekabod2:

The fact I disagree with you doesn't mean I have let misogynists come into my head. I live confidently in a world of my own free from misogynists or hypocritical girls!
If you a defining feminism based on only socio-political aspect that means you disagree with chimamanda adichie that spoke on "mudane" matters....the fact is feminism can't be achieved if stereotype are not taken off.
Stoping things like shaming of female non virgins, female consumers of alcohol et Al is not the aim of feminism?

This "choice" you keep on echoing, can't bring about equality of both genders! So people have the choice to misogynists or to practice patriarchy? No one is enforcing any modus operandi on a feminist but there are choices you make your own self that makes you less equal to a man. And when such issues occur and you still want to define such act as feminism people like you will say it's a choice still. For example,if a feminist believes that a female is to do all the house chores,that isn't equality, but you liberalchick will still claim that is a matter of choice for a female to uphold such stereotype and thus is still a feminist.

Do kindly research on feminism and how it is practiced in other parts of the world. Check up Solomon Buchi posts on feminism and if you know of sites that enlighten more on feminism kindly refer me to such as no one is an island....
Lots of love to you!

I didn’t say feminism could only be defined based on socio-political issues, I didn’t go into sexism because I didn’t think it was relevant to my post. Obviously sexism is why we have gender inequality. There is a difference between a woman that decides to do all the house chores and respects another woman’s decision not to do so and a woman that believes it is the role of women to do house chores.

Choice is key to gender equality. Feminists fight For equal access to opportunities so people have more options to choose. I don’t like to quibble about the nuances in feminism, if someone believes in gender equality that’s good enough for me. I am not in the business of dictating to the person on how they should use such opportunities. It’s a slippery slope, there is a danger of turning into the misogynists we hate. Both sides of a coin, replacing one form of oppression with another. This is why some women that believe in gender equality (access to equal opportunities regardless of gender) don’t want to identify as feminists because some smug feminists look down on their choices. One of the aim of feminism is to allow women to define themselves however they choose.

I didn’t agree with Chimamanda when she came for Beyoncé, I didn’t agree with her when she bullied Hillary Clinton into changing her social media bio. She is a militant feminist. Hillary is a wife and a mother and there's nothing wrong with that. Her being a wife shouldn’t be less important than any of her other achievements. For some women being wives are important parts of their identities, insinuating that being a wife is not an equal choice as been a lawyer means she is effectively disempowering those women.

I am not for someone that believes she has the right to weigh in on how other women should define themselves. Since she has been the darling of the liberal media and raking in millions, has she used her star power to sponsor any bill in Nigeria that would promote gender equality? While she’s bogged down on petty things like “who opens a car door?” women like Dr Amadi are actually working to effect change. It’s because of her married women in Nigeria no longer need their husbands permission to obtain a passport. She used her money to take the government to court and won, this was just in 2009.

I live in the ‘other parts’ of the world and unlike some Nigerian feminists, feminists here are more interested in fighting for policies that would create actual change. No one cares if you want to wash the cloth in your house or you don’t want to cook soup. While some Nigerian feminists are on twitter arguing about who pays for transport fare, feminists here are on twitter bombarding their representatives on sponsoring bills that promotes equal pay for equal work so they can afford the transport fare. Here, feminists march for change.

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Romance / Re: Painful Sex Or She Doesn't Love Me? by liberalchick(f): 3:37pm On Sep 10, 2019
Your wife should see a doctor, she might have a medical condition.

From what you described she has entry pain. It’s caused by a lot factors one of which is poor lubrication. She probably doesn’t make enough estrogen that’s why her vagina is dry. Sex was normal during pregnancy because estrogen levels are off the charts when a woman is pregnant. Estrogen levels drop sharply after pregnancy. Since she doesn’t want to use a lubricant, you should try spending more time on pre-intimacy. (lol NL censors f0replay?)

You should tell her the lack of sex in the marriage is a very big issue for you and she should see a doctor.

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 12:48pm On Sep 10, 2019
Thank you.

Enyimbamercedes:
A lot of comments borne out of ignorance and the inability of people to read and comprehend before writing silly comments.

Busola filed a civil complaint. A civil complaint can be filed even though the case is still under investigation. The police can then file a criminal charge against him if they feel has a case to answer.

It can happen that he is found not guilty in the criminal charge but guilty in the civil case. In criminal charges, punishment would be Jail term, fines or even death penalty while civil cases only end with payment of damages by the guilty party. In this circumstance Busola has asked for an apology and for the man to pay the legal costs. Perfectly normal!

It can happen that Biodun wins the criminal case but loses the civil case. This happened with OJ Simpson, he was never found guilty of murder but he lost the civil case and paid damages to the family.

Na from the small law when I do for 500 level engineering that i Dey write o.

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 12:39pm On Sep 10, 2019
lol do you really think N10m is enough for legal fees in a high profile case??!! What is that? Do you know the amount of work needed for a pre-trial?

Please where is this gofundme? Please can you post a link? I searched and I didn’t see any digital footprint of this gofundme. The only thing I found was some gospel dude suggesting the Dakolos open one.

babyfaceafrica:
what is her gofundme account for?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 1:59am On Sep 10, 2019
It depends on the payment agreement between she and her lawyer. Some lawyers take on a law suit and agree to be paid when they get a favorable judgment.

atonement12:
...and if she looses the civil suit, who carries the burden of the lawyers 10 million naira fee? sad

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 1:43am On Sep 10, 2019
Okay so I just read the writ and the law suit is based on the 2002 rape not on the recent events. I am baffled, civil cases usually have a stat of limitation, it doesn’t seem like a viable law suit. Anyways, I guess we would’ve to wait and see if it gets tossed out because it has no legal bases.

The judge will only toss out the case if it’s a frivolous law suit not because there is no verdict in the criminal case but the judge can freeze the civil proceedings.

niaralandtopuser:

the judge will either strike out the case or adjourn till there is a judgement on the pending criminal case

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 11:32pm On Sep 09, 2019
That’s what the civil trial is for. He gets a fair hearing when his side presents their counter suit. The judge will hear both cases and give his/her ruling. In her suit, she is asking the court for N10m in lawyers fees and a public apology as compensation if she wins. Fatoyinbo will get his day in a civil court. Though the civil court is independent of the criminal court, some facts revealed during a civil trial can be made admissible in a criminal court. If the two cases have/share underlying facts then the judge will use his/her discretion to freeze the civil proceedings until there is a verdict in the criminal case.

Investigations still going on for a possible criminal trial.

chronique:
How about the tendering an apology to her and publicising it in several major dailies for two weeks? So, you sue a person to court and even before the case comes up for hearing, you are already praying the court to grant you prejudicial reliefs? Where does the defendant get to defend himself and have the right to fair hearing since you are asking him to apologize to you and pay for your legal fees even before the case is called for you to open your case and for him to open his defense? I'm not a lawyer but this case looks like child's play and it looks dead on arrival.

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 11:08pm On Sep 09, 2019
I was responding to someone that said she didn’t tell any of her family members. So I was just pointing out that she said she did in the interview.

Ijawwomaninoyo:


Someone granted an interview about Neymar and added emotions to it, but later found to be false. Timi himself wasn't there and hadn't known her when the alleged happened. So, he himself shouldn't believe everything that was said.
I know of a man in the US who saw a teenager with a flat tyre, he stopped and changed the tyre for her. Just because of hating blacks, she raised a rape alarm. She was crying uncontrollably while narrating the harassment.
The streets camera was the man's saving grace.

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:36pm On Sep 09, 2019
No I wasn’t, but this account it’s in the interview where she broke the story.

Ijawwomaninoyo:


Were you there?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:35pm On Sep 09, 2019
The judge will give ruling based on which side has a stronger argument. Fatoyinbo’s side will file a counter suit.
niaralandtopuser:

I am telling you this is not how it works. if you are a judge how will you decide this civil suit? will you compel Mr coza to meet her demands when you know the main criminal case is pending?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:27pm On Sep 09, 2019
Oh I just read your comment right. I thought you replied thinking this was my opinion.

Her lawyers can argue his denial of the rape caused a chain reaction that caused trauma or the church acted on behalf of the pastor to harass her or church resources were used to harass her causing her distress.

This is the right process, the judicial system always has civil and criminal cases. Also, we shouldn’t forget the criminal case might NOT happen if the government after its investigations decides not to try the case for lack of evidence.
niaralandtopuser:

how is her emotional trauma supposed to be the fault of Mr coza who is not guilty? allow the case to pass through the right process. why the rush?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:20pm On Sep 09, 2019
There is a civil recovery in a rape case.

MobilityExpress:


Rape is a criminal case. This is not sexual assault or smooching or fo.ndling or attempted rape. She claims there was penetration, multiple times sef.

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:16pm On Sep 09, 2019
Again, you are shooting the messenger I am telling you what is in the document are lawyers filed. The document says she is filling for damages and she is not seeking monetary compensation but a public apology.

niaralandtopuser:

how is her emotional trauma supposed to be the fault of Mr coza who is not guilty? allow the case to pass through the right process. why the rush?
Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:14pm On Sep 09, 2019
Okay, I just said it wasn’t impossible.

babyfaceafrica:
those maids are illiterates?. bussy is not
Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:12pm On Sep 09, 2019
No need to shoot the messenger, I am just providing information I didn’t create the legal due process.

niaralandtopuser:

wait for the investigation and criminal case to run it course before seeking for compensation. you can't get compensation when there is no judgement. no one is guilty yet

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:11pm On Sep 09, 2019
Didn’t you ask how someone can be raped twice in her parent’s house and she didn’t inform family members? To your second question, yes it is very possible for rape victims to continue to live with their rapist. Some maids are raped regularly by their bosses.

seborrhic:

That doesn't answer the question:
How can a girl that is not mentally challenged be raped,TWICE,in HER PARENTS HOUSE?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:07pm On Sep 09, 2019
niaralandtopuser:

[b]what damages were done? t[/b]he criminal case should come first then later a civil suit should be filed demanding whatever compensation.

based on what judgement is she seeking compensation?

will you seek compensation when no one has been declared guilty?

That’s for the plaintiff to present in court and that’s for the judge to decide. Based on the documents, I think she is seeking emotional damages, since she came out with her story she has gone through emotional trauma. This is a civil case so there is no burden to prove criminal intent.
Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 10:00pm On Sep 09, 2019
She did inform her family members and her brother went to the church to confront him. He was restrained by senior pastors. The same senior pastors with Fatoyinbo came to beg her parents in their house. Those pastors are still alive, it’s strange nobody in the Fatoyinbo camp has denied that. Watch the videos.

seborrhic:
I have always maintained that Dakolo had consensual sex with Pastor Fatoyinbo.
How can someone rape u twice in your father's house and you didn't inform your family members?She is that type of girl that got fascinated with sex at a very young age due to poor parental upbringing.
Though I also believe without a shadow of doubt that Fatoyinbo is a scam of a pastor.
He is more of motivational speaker for the kinds of poor souls he can motivate anyway.But calling him a pastor just summarises the scan that is pastorship in Nigeria.

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 9:56pm On Sep 09, 2019
Rape can be both civil and a criminal. Only the government can take a criminal case to court.
niaralandtopuser:

rape is a criminal case Mr lawyer
you haven't filed criminal case against the accuse but you are already filing civil suit? why is she demanding and apology and compensation?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 9:54pm On Sep 09, 2019
This is a civil case not a criminal one.

MobilityExpress:


The case is in court, or will be put forward to the court. Therefore, an accuser, through her counsel or lawyers can explicitly demand at the setup of the court case that all legal fees she will expend on the case will be borne by the accused if the court finds the accused guilty. In lay man's terms, it means Busola Dakolo has paid her lawyers 10m or has reached an agreement of 10m with her lawyers as the cost of handling her case in court. And if Coza pastor is later judged guilty at the conclusion of the case, not only will he serve whatever punishment the judge gives but he will be required to also pay 10m litigation fees back to his accuser who won the case. You get it now?

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Celebrities / Re: Busola Dakolo: I Didn’t Demand N10 Million Compensation From Pastor Fatoyinbo by liberalchick(f): 9:51pm On Sep 09, 2019
The investigation is for the criminal case if the government (plaintiff) proceeds to take it to trial. This is a civil case, where the plaintiff is the victim. Different standards apply, the judge isn’t ruling on criminal intent but on compensation for damages.

niaralandtopuser:

when investigation is still ongoing?

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Romance / Re: My Idea Of Feminism by liberalchick(f): 8:50pm On Sep 09, 2019
grin
budaatum:

I'd agree with you except for the assumed right to be pigs that I personally do want to take away from men. I'd over compensate to chop it off if I could even if they hid it in their pants.
Literature / Re: �•City Dreams•� (A Chicklit/YA Novel) by liberalchick(f): 8:29pm On Sep 09, 2019
Yes I do! Please let me know where to buy when you are done.

Magnoliaa:



Yes, it is, but it's still very rough draft I'm working on. smiley

No where close to finishing or perfection at alll.

Do you like it?
Romance / Re: My Idea Of Feminism by liberalchick(f): 8:23pm On Sep 09, 2019
Why and how did feminism start?

The movement started to campaign for the rights of women at a time when women had little to NO rights. Just as how the civil rights started as a campaign for the rights of the black man during Jim Crow.

Feminism’s ultimate goal is for women to achieve those rights which would ultimately lead to gender equality in society. A state in which men AND women both have equal access to opportunities.

There can’t be gender equality if women don’t have access to opportunities that men have. For some reason you seem to think in order to campaign for those rights, women have to trample on the rights or choices of men or women have to be hypocritical in the face of injustice towards men.

This rhetoric is what misogynists use in derailing the movement and unfortunately you have let them get inside your head. Phrases like “bitter women” is often used to belittle the movement. You are over compensating so as not be viewed as a man hater. Demanding for your rights so as to have equal opportunities as men doesn’t mean you take men’s away. Demanding that your behavior, choices, aspirations shouldn’t be judged differently because you’re a woman doesn’t mean you look the other way when the choice of a man is judged unfairly.

As I have said many times on this forum, people’s choices should be respected. While feminism seek to fight for gender equality on the policy level, what people decide to do in their personal life is their business. I don’t know about women crying about a man’s choice to want a domestic wife. I can only speak for myself, I personally don’t have a problem with men that want traditional wives. I also don’t have a problem with women that want to be traditional wives. I would only have a problem if that lifestyle is forced upon me via laws or ‘culture’.

Some men/women are independent and want dependent women/men; some men/women are dependent and want independent women/men; some men/women are independent and want independent women/men; wouldn’t it be a beautiful society if all of these varying choices/lifestyles can co-exist equally?

Too much emphasis on personal choices i.e “who washes plate?” It detracts from the main purpose of the movement.

Michellekabod2:

Sorry you have missed the point of feminism which is gender equality by thwarting the definition to be pro-women,that makes you worse than sexists! Feminism isn't pro-women but pro-equality of both genders. Many so called "feminists" do nothing but cry foul about injustice meted on females and always talk of females rights! As we continue to have feminists that uphold your definition the word feminism will remain a joke to the ears,and seen as a movement of bitter women.
If in the list I put up,I touched areas ONLY related to improvement the female rights ,you wouldn't type what you typed but applaud me.
While ladies should have choices on whether a man should pay the bills or not why do females cry foul when a men chooses that the lady does all the domestic chores? Isn't he entitled to a "choice" as well?

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Family / Re: What Is The Cost And Procedures For Adopting A Baby In Nigeria- Lagos? by liberalchick(f): 8:45pm On Sep 08, 2019
Oh ok. Thank you for the info.

sinaj:
You wont be allowed to leave the country with the child immediately for at least 1year coz you would be under watch
Family / Re: What Is The Cost And Procedures For Adopting A Baby In Nigeria- Lagos? by liberalchick(f): 8:01pm On Sep 08, 2019
Hi, please do you know the process if the adoptive parents are planning to take the child out of Nigeria?

Thank you.

sinaj:
you have to be above 40years, if you are below 40, you must present a genuine reason like health issue with recognised hospital report, having grown up kids and other serious issues.

You will present Bank reports, and your account balance has to be healthy wink

You will submit your passports, the originals but it will be returned back to you.

You must have properties too, like a land or house.

Lastly you will need referees, civil servants from level 10 and above.

You will swear afidavits too.

I hope this will help you.

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