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[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=727224.msg8850473#msg8850473 date=1312425729]The western powers interfere everywhere, not just in Nigeria/Africa. We cannot use that as an excuse, imo.[/quote]And I said, "a house divided has already fallen".

And who says ethnicity is not a big deal in Kenya? My Kenyan girlfriend was Kisi, and she used to bad-mouth Kikuyu women much like I have heard Igbo women bad-mouthing Yoruba women as being very promiscuous (quite laughable really since I know enough promiscuous Igbo women). So I expect they are not much different from Nigerians.

And really, considering that you most likely live abroad, I don't think you'll meet the average citizens of those countries you mentioned; you are more than likely dealing with enlightened citizens, and the farther we are from the father-land, the more patriotic we get. It's a matter of "half-bread is better than none".

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=727224.msg8850085#msg8850085 date=1312419085]Tribalism is mostly a Nigerian phenomenon as far as Africa goes. I don't really see it amongst most other Africans that I've met (just my general impression, not a fact by any means)[/quote]You are kidding right? Are those African countries by any chance North African? Those are probably the countries with near homogeneous populations. "Tribalism" is a human trait, and not African. Even European countries have separated in the 90s talk less of African countries. And believe you me, if you by any chance had a country formed by France and Italy, they will very quickly grind to a halt. This is why Awolowo said "Nigeria is nothing but a geographical expression, and is not a nation like France, et cetera".

The other factor of course is interference by the so called "Western Powers". I have already mentioned the case of Patrice Lumumba and Congo several times today. Patrice Lumumba - progressive, intelligent, every bit the African the West cannot work with. But guess what, when the "Axis of Evil" aka Belgium and the US struck, they used the standard divide and conquer as there were tribal clashes. So again we go back to tribal differences. A house already divided has already fallen. Interference is more difficult when the house is tightly bound.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=727224.msg8849993#msg8849993 date=1312417392]I guess their rationale was that it is better to be the major port city of a large nation than on your own.[/quote]See, even Lagos is better off on it's own and will do better than as part of Nigeria. That's how bad it is. It is better for a machine to be small and manageable with working parts that a humongous white elephant with cog-wheels spinning wildly in different directions, and falling off. The other key is our middle class need to stop turning their noses up towards politics, leaving the lower class and unscrupulous nit-wits to run affairs. It will be a sad day for me for instance as an old man to see veritable dummies in my class (from say primary or secondary school) running the affairs of the country and controlling the destiny of my offspring. Then I will be the fool, not them.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=727224.msg8849774#msg8849774 date=1312413916]was kicked out of it by Malaysia (in part due to ethnic/political differences.)[/quote]Why would you not know how they were able to develop when it's already in your post? You need a light-bulb? They were formed on ethnic and political synergy (opposite of differences). A machine cannot work when all the cog-wheels are spinning in different and uncomplimentary directions.

Quite honestly, if there is empirical proof that an Igbo man will do better than a Yoruba man as the Governor of Lagos I will wholeheartedly support him. Same applies to ANY position including the Presidency. But there is no such empirical proof. There is a saying in Yoruba-land about knowing how a person will treat your house or property by checking how he handles his. I look to the East, and I am afraid all I can give is a Vote of No Confidence.

alj_harem,

Guy, edit your post as it makes it seem as if I made that silly assertion about Fashola being from Ekiti.

My point here is even people who are "more qualified" to agitate for political posts are not.

I also heard there was protest in making Yoruba the official language of the Lagos Assembly. So people who may not be fluent in Yoruba want to hold political posts in Lagos? Are they crazy? It's analogous to someone like Schwarzenegger complaining about English being the official language in California. He's of course Polish, he learnt so speak English and he became an American.

Onlytruth:
Posted by: logica
Have you not heard that current Lagos governor Raji Fashola is from Ekiti too?
So if you won't aspire to become governor in Lagos, should you stop other Ekiti folks from wanting to.
Please don't assume that everyone is as unambitious and cowardly. Your yardstick is suspect.

And where did you hear that from? The crack between your a$$? The fact that Fashola is even muslim makes it doubtful that he's from Ekiti. Believe you me, I am quite ambitious more than your family combined, but I refuse to eat from where I did not sow. Go figure.

I am Ekiti but I was born in Lagos; yet I have no political aspirations in Lagos. If I want to jump into the pigsty we call politics in Nigeria, I will go back to my roots in Ekiti state to contest. Yet I am Yoruba. So exactly what is the point of this "Igbo Lagos Governor" campaign? If an Igbo governor can be better for Lagos, we would have seen the signs in the East already. I don't see it, but maybe someone smoking crack sees it.

Solozzo:
I believe the deaths of Abiola, abacha and possibly idiagbon were carried out by the people who benefitted most from their deaths. Ie the succeeding military leaders.

Correct. But you underestimate the benefit those deaths provide Western interests as well. Not only the "military leaders" would benefit. So why can't all beneficiaries join hands (as the West usually does - partnering with the worst humans () in Africa)?

Earl:
And that is why I advocate the return of the teaching of "history"in our schools because as a people, if we don't know our history, we will never know where and when the rains began to pound us. Chikena.

Earl

Absolutely. I am sure only a handful of posters here know the story of Congo, the murder of Lumumba and ultimate rise of Mobutu. You will then ask, how can such a progressive like Lumumba spend less than 3 months in office while a monkey like Mobutu spent decades? America and Europe cannot stand an African country led by a progressive, but they will embrace a depraved and deprived baboon who will pocket the whole income of his country, while serving his psychotic European and American masters.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=726480.msg8846132#msg8846132 date=1312380969]Despite all these complicity,some buffoons will still scream conspiracy theories when you tell it to their face that the europeans and americans kill abiola ![/quote]. . . with the complicity of some locals (possibly Yorubas close to him). Europe and America will never want someone who can stand up to them or someone likely to improve the lot of his people (to their detriment). But their success is always highlighted by the selfishness and lack of patriotism of the locals who always do their dirty jobs.

Wallie:
If the US wanted to kill him, why kill him in the presence of US delegates? Isn’t it commonsense to create an alibi for yourself when committing a crime? Do you know how sophisticated the CIA is?

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the US to kill him while “known” CIA agents are a million miles away from the scene? The last thing any government would want is to be directly implicated in any murder scheme!

You are assuming the delegates even knew about the plot. You obviously don't know enough about the CIA. Most of their plots and assassination attempts are so obvious and direct. The only thing is they would most likely have recruited locals (Nigerians) as well.

Wallie:
Do you know how sophisticated the CIA is?

LOL. So sophisticated yet they could not get Fidel Castro with literally hundreds of attempts? Even their attempt on the life of Lumumba was anything but sophisticated. You OBVIOUSLY don't know much about the CIA. When you speak of sophisticated assassinations, then you are speaking of the KGB.

For me it is obvious that the deaths of Abacha and Abiola were connected. But what makes their deaths quite apparent as political assassinations was the death of Major General Idiagbon. People seem to have forgotten about him.

My theory is, it was all about oil - the only reason the US gazes in the direction of Nigeria. With all the political turmoil, business was being affected. So a plan was put in motion to "stabilize the polity". Who are the "troublemakers"? Simply remove the troublemakers to "balance the equation". But for me, the possible fact that Cyanide was used to kill all 3 suggests how lowly Nigeria is viewed by the US (or CIA). The CIA will never attempt to kill with Cyanide in any "proper" country because it is an obvious agent and can be easily traced. They knew these guys can be killed and nobody will care enough to find out whodunnit.

LOL. This guy might know a few things but he still comes across as ignorant. Abiola could not have been an FBI agent. BUT he could have been a CIA informant. FBI and CIA are not the same are they?

And what does he refer to as "Chemical 1"? Probably Cyanide? Cyanide is well known and I suppose it's only in a backward place like Nigeria that it could be successfully used in a political assassination. It was said Abiola foamed from the mouth; which is symptomatic of Cyanide poisoning (although other poisons also cause foaming from the mouth). So "Chemical 1" is most likely Cyanide - HCN (gaseous), NaCN or KCN (solid - salts).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

Anybody who knows about the CIA's crimes and attempted crimes in the 60s, including their attempt on the life of Patrice Lumumba (before he was finally killed by the Belgians) will not doubt the possibility that they offed Abiola.

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Gottlieb

Dr. Sidney Gottlieb also played a role in the CIA's attempt to assassinate Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of the Congo. In the summer of 1960, Gottlieb transported "toxic biological materials" to the CIA station in the Congo, though a military coup deposed the Prime Minister before agents could deliver the virus.

candylips:
There are many instances where you will need to quickly parse files e.g logs for specific patterns .

That's the job of a System Admin or Analyst, but yes it's good to master Regex.

Good question. That appears to be a conundrum. Will they turn back female NYSC members visiting government offices wearing their government issued uniforms? I'm sure the dimwits didn't think about that one.

The same reason the god known as Pan by the Greeks gave the well known features of the Devil manifestation: horns, hooves et cetera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_(god)

You didn't get the link below in your Google search?

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-jazzy/

[quote author=DAY11. link=topic=720554.msg8791850#msg8791850 date=1311681295]Nigeria Police, want employ graduate. I dey laff ooo[/quote]What's funny? With the right salary they can, especially considering how many unemployed graduates roaming the streets.

ajalaolanr:
just take a look at the officer with his buttons off!, i still dey laff oooo

That is a fashion model not an officer.

For the non Muslims backing this I am sorry but you will be likely very much disappointed. And you might find it very much an adventure to visit a GTBank branch in Sokoto or even Abuja when this launches.

maclatunji:
Blah blah blah. Okay, let us assume I am an ode. Blah blah blah

Of course you are clearly an ode. The worst kind really because you can actually type but you can barely read. You just stare at the screen and see a jumble of letters. You are not the type to even engage in any form. bleeping slowpoke.

maasoap:
Nigerian christians are losing it. See how many of them on NL viciously against Jaiz Bank and they would begin or end by saying "I'm not a christian". Even in my lodge, two of them are doubting the existence of God. And the remaining that are not in doubt would never go to church or pray.

More and more I wonder if the Internet has not done a lot of harm by being available for apparent baboons to come express opinions. You honestly think I am a Christian and I will say "I am not a Christian? You think I am the embodiment of hypocrisy and illogicality as you? In any case I know how you think - "anybody who is not a Muslim is a Christian". Oh, the mind of a simpleton.

LagosShia:
This christian jealousy of everything muslims

I am not a Christian, but humor me please. What exactly do you have that's worth being "jealous" of?

maclatunji:
The environment is not wrong, it is your corruption and intolerance that is wrong. It is the job of the government to protect lives and property- not yours. So you think by denouncing Islamic banking you are any safer- you are fooling yourself!

Ode. My corruption? I have no banking interests slowpoke. And I am way more tolerant than those who want religious dominion. I don't care for any religion and I wish no monkey will try and bother me with his moronic ideas.

Bawss1:
Many people don’t even know what they are agitating about.

Exactly. People like you for instance. Has the Vatican ever witnessed any of these:

1. The accused is beheaded by a mob for allegedly wiping his a.s.s with pages off the Koran.
2. Riots over hosting of the MBG World Pageant.
3. Implementation of Sharia law.
4. Boko Haram scourge.

Is it that people like you cannot read or your brains have simply shut-down? You can't see beyond your noses? Most people have no issues with Islamic Banking; it is the repercussions that we have seen. The environment is wrong.

And I am glad that one phrase stood out in your post - "ethical principles". I am sure you know there's a difference between principles and reality. And how many things in Nigeria can you point to and say are "ethically" operated? Like somebody said in an article I read over the weekend, the principles are all fine and dandy, but they will take saints and angels to implement. We all know how many saints and angels we have in Nigeria.

Lastly, another thing I took from the article was the term "non-interest banking" is a misnomer. More or less, it is delayed interest as you are still charged interest. So basically our current system has interest pre-computed, while the so called "non-interest" banking has interest post-computed.

ehie:
abeg leave me jare, na una sabi, make una go get heart attack

Building castles in the air will more likely give you a heart attack than being aptly aware of ulterior motives.

ehie:
Its really your choice anyway you see it,Nigeria is a secular country and if you want to get a loan that has a 30 percent interest (eg,u get a loan of 1 million and u pay back 1.300 million a year or is it six months,just like u pay loan sharks) you could
or u could just pay one million naira back and i guess they wont be on your neck after 3 months or is it six months,abeg i cant wait to start i want to open a cake shop.

LOL. How naive. No be only cake shop you go open; na akara shop.

Morons will be quick to pounce on the failures (which you can probably count on the fingers of one hand) of this ultra-efficient agency forgetting that their numerous successes are mostly, of course unknown.

This is exactly why my ambivalent disposition changed to opposition. In a country where a crowd of baboons behead a man for supposedly wiping his a.s.s with pages of the Quran (when as postulated they were merely pages of an Arabic newspaper - but besides that, I cannot even image Christians or any other set of religious people killing somebody for wiping his a.s.s with pages of their "holy book") you have to be careful with nomenclature.

OK, I read this all the time and I wonder how many people have so far been prosecuted for FRAUD. Or is it just to remove dummy records? Who put them there and who had been benefiting from them?

Do you need to have experience with ALL of them? More info. . .