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frosbel: Mate , sorry to burst your bubble but you were no Christian - Fact !!!

A Christian is one who is born again spiritually into the Kingdom of God. It is not a physical birth into a specific denomination.

If you never tasted of the goodness and Spirit of God, this in itself is a verdict that you never knew him.

God only responds to the humble prayers of the contrite and broken in heart.

Lol....I was a catholic for 22 years. Who are you to judge?

Please, explain this tasting of the "goodness and spirit of God"


I could level the same accusation back at you. How do I know that you're a christian? Your teaching on the bible on Nairaland is flawed and is not of the spirit of God.

Okay Frosbel, I am not here to argue; I seem to agree with you.

You have no certain position on the age of accountability with regards to the bible. This is what christianity does- leads to more unanswerable questions!



The catholics have a way out- Purgatory! If you did not hear about God's word and can claim ignorance, you're going to purgatory before heaven.



Anyways, you see how an atheist rids himself of this spiritual conundrum by not believing in it in the first place?

anitank: Ok fine, God is not punishing us! The major problem is from our corrupt leaders. Even the people too have a share in the corrupt system. But telling me that God doesn't exist?? I wonder why u think that

Why I dont beleieve in God.

-No evidence of God. I was a christian for 22 years. Not once did I see, touch, hear or feel God. Nobody has or heard or touched God. There is not one physical evidence of God

-The bible is as immoral as it is moral. Support for slavery, support for genocide, we should stone homosexuals, sexism- women are not made in the image of God but men are, we should kill witches etc


-The bible does not even make sense. Eve was created out of Adam's rib. Therefore, eve is a clone of Adam and Adam is her parent. Sex between Adam and eve is incest. Also, how did Adam and Eve have grandchildren (Children of Cain and Abel) without incest?


I have not even started talking about science and evolution.

I am not muslim and I did not want to comment on a thread mourning the loss of people which a good thing need for a sad time.


However, I think all dead should be mourned and not just muslims. If you have any friend that died, you should mourn him/her even if he/she was not a muslim.

maclatunji: I have told her that already. Nothing you say here will change emofine's mind. Ok, let me even smash the calabash- women were created to be companions of men and you lot are objects of our desire and sources of pleasure for us here on earth. Are you going to smash your head because I said that- of course not. Does the bolded prevent you from being all you want to be and from positively impacting on the world? No! However, you would do well to remember it ever-so-often because anybody who tells you otherwise is an hypocrite.

Don't shy away from your femininity, embrace it. Islam accords women a place of esteem and honour at all times and that includes Houris as well.

Sexist pig. Even you know that what you said about women is wrong (bolded part).

It's amazing when people like Maclatunki still wonder why the West looks at islam as a sexist religion. You make such derogatory statements about women and then claim to be the victim when called sexist.

tbaba1234: ^Ignorance at its best, go and do your assignment... you have no credibility if you fail to do it....

Name one ignorant thing about my comment. See how much of a fraud you are? You can not debate on the subject of the thread (houri) and so you play a strawman- the useless assignment that you mentioned on another thread. Yes, the assignment destroys all logic, reasonable arguments and credibility that I have ever had on Nairaland (rolls eye, sarcasm off)

logicboy:

My god, am I at a hip-hop concert? The remixing that is done here is just epic!


See Tbaba, LagosShia and Maclatunji remixing and spinning their way out of a problem in the Quran.

The houri represent a very problematic issue for Islam.

-What if muslim husband and wives make it to Jannah? Concubinage with houri?

-Why are only the men promised houri? What is the reward for women? The houri are female deigns " 55:56 Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them"

-If Muhammad and followers are in Jannah, what is Muhammad's need for houri? Aisha and Khadija not enough?


Sorry, but the Houri is one controversial topic in islam

God doesnt exist.

The problem is the corrupt leaders. Simple. Even our religious leaders are corrupt.

The average Nigerians just wants electricity and money to feed his or her family.



If we were to take your analogy, we would say that God punished Haiti with an earthquake- which is very wrong.

Mr_Anony: My friend logicboy, you have to realize that not everything is a debate. Yes we may have our differences concerning God but then a time comes when we have to lay that aside and condemn evil when we see it.

Are you so full of hate for christianity that you would throw in your lot with someone who believes that burning down churches and killing christians is the way forward?

Rather than condemn Pagan9ja's hateful speech for what it is, you would rather side with him not necessarily because you agree with him but just so that you can fight on the anti-christian side.

I thought that you were much better than this, I must confess that reading your posts here makes me lose respect for you in no small way.

You are a perfect example of an immoral and hypocritical christian. Nice try to play the innocent victim here.

1) I clearly said that Pagan Naija's picture is aggressive
2) You and I both know that Pagan Naija is not a terrorist and is not really asking for the murder of christians.
3) You on the other hand readily accept the slavery of your people supported by christianity- 12 million black slaves.
4) Pagan Naija's overall point is true, we need to rid our country of both christianity and islam. Not trough murder but by effective campaigns of reasoning and logic

Donstanlex: jst pray dat God wil have mercy on you, remember, dnt tempt d Lord ur God..

ho ho ho!

So, money is part of your God? By asking churches to fast from money, I am tempting God?

Kai, sad day for christianity!

elvisimeh: muskeeto is even worse than i thot, there's no reward for sitting on the fence. Let's nt confuse ourselves with grammar nw.

So, you're into christianity for the reward?

elvisimeh: the Japs are a traumatized lot. Hate it or love the fundamentals of xtainity if adhered to yields results. The greatest nation on earth- The USA, was founded on the tenets of xtainity

Nigeria is 10x more christian than Japan.

America is home to about 30 million atheist. That is almost half the population of the UK. The American constitution (highest law on the land) is secular.

elvisimeh: Isaiah 40:22. Dnt u just love to argue? Mind u, i'm nt a fanatic, i'll argue on any topic i believe in with as much zeal. I only came in when the "atheism crusader"- muskeeto seemed to be thrashing every1.

God sits above the circle of the earth. Circles are flat. Balls or spheres are not.


Muskeeto is an agnostic. I am an atheist

Anyone taking the challenge?

elvisimeh: i aint no Pastor, the bible gives me what money cannot buy- HOPE.

Everyone has hope, ESPECIALLY NON CHRISTIANS.

You cant claim that only christians have hope. That being said, hope is cheap. Better find another thing that the bible gives you that is special

elvisimeh: it's funny how the bible give explanations to things even before they occur, the bible long declared that the earth is round, even when men thought the earth was flat, and do u know what d bible says about ppl that makes comments such as urs above? They are fools. The bible was right in the 1st instance, following it's precendent, it's likely to be correct nw. "it's only a fool that says there is no God"

Do you really believe what you quoted from the bible? That only a fool says that there is no God?


64% of Japanese say that there is no God. 64% of Japanese are atheists. Would you be willing to call an absolute majority Japanese people fools? Please look at Nigeria before you talk.



The bible has immorality

elvisimeh: it's funny how the bible give explanations to things even before they occur, the bible long declared that the earth is round, even when men thought the earth was flat, and do u know what d bible says about ppl that makes comments such as urs above? They are fools. The bible was right in the 1st instance, following it's precendent, it's likely to be correct nw. "it's only a fool that says there is no God"

The earth can be round and still be flat at the same time. The bible said nothing special


The earth is not only round but also spherical


A round but flat disc
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A spherical shape
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My god, am I at a hip-hop concert? The remixing that is done here is just epic!


See Tbaba, LagosShia and Maclatunji remixing and spinning their way out of a problem in the Quran.

The houri represent a very problematic issue for Islam.

-What if muslim husband and wives make it to Jannah? Concubinage with houri?

-Why are only the men promised houri? What is the reward for women? The houri are female deigns " 55:56 Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them"

-If Muhammad and followers are in Jannah, what is Muhammad's need for houri? Aisha and Khadija not enough?


Sorry, but the Houri is one controversial topic in islam

elvisimeh: did "ogun" come for the lost sons of West Africa? Or "Animal instinct" for the lost sons of Nigeria? Christainity gives me value for my money and u my friend ought to be the "poster boy of atheism"

Wow....I'm an atheist not a pagan.


Anyway, we have seen how fake you are. Two reasons for Elvis being a christian;

-fear of hell
-cashback or profit from tithing

elvisimeh: as a matter of fact, that is the silliest attempt anybody ever came to a philosophy (which is actually an attitude that guilds one's conduct), u are truely very primitive, because early man lived by his instinct, after which successive generations came up with philosophies to refine man, now my friend, u're trying to take us several thousand yrs back.

What part of "we get our morals from interactions with society" dont you get?

logicboy: I believe in myself. As an animal, my primal instinct is based on my survival.

As a social animal, I get morals from myself and interactions with the society. Luckily, humans have evolved to think about their actions.


I think we should base our actions on the pros and cons of the results.

elvisimeh: that dog-chop-dog mentality might work for u for a time, but will definitely leave u without essence. If i got u right, after weighing d pros and cons, as a naturally selfish animal, u're bound to go with d one with most "pros" to u undermining the "cons" to d soceity, "truly, the end justifies the means"

There is no absolute morality. Good and bad will always be subjective.

The bible supports slavery, killing of disobedient children, murder of witches, stoning of homosexuals. Those morals came from society and not God because God doesnt exist.

elvisimeh: to begin with, my religion is void of idols, my religion is based on faith(in the word of God), so the last thing that cross my mind is the color of Jesus' skin or the shape of his head, so please dnt make assumption. Secondly, as controversial as d creation story is, it's more credible than evolution, evolution is laughable, in fact it is bull crap.

You are highly ignorant.

Jesus clearly said that the came for the lost sheep of Isreal.Jesus did not come for your black West African azz.


Evolution is far more sensible than creationism. You want to tell me that evolution which has more evidence (transitional fossils,current evolution in animals, human loss of wisdom teeth) is somehow not better than creationism that has zero evidence?You believe that your mother is as a result of a rib?

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tpia@:
^so you know that verse by heart, you dont say.

see yourself in it?

or how to explain the speed at which you pulled up the passage.

elefo atan.

I dont speak Yoruba.

Atheists know the bible more than christians, generally. It wasthe bible that made me an atheist

elvisimeh: if u're right, then they really got me there. If i may ask, what do u believe in( as in for moral guide whatsoever)? I cn tolerate anything, but nt a Man who don't stand for something.

I believe in myself. As an animal, my primal instinct is based on my survival.

As a social animal, I get morals from myself and interactions with the society. Luckily, humans have evolved to think about their actions.


I think we should base our actions on the pros and cons of the results.

Ptolomeus: Dominated Arab and Western Africa. Their land and enslave its people. They washed their brains with Jehovah and Allah ... They destroyed their languages ​​and traditions ... Unfortunately the majority of Africans knelt before the gods ... You are now under their law.
Jheova human sacrifices demanded and enjoyed by eliminating entire villages ... spreading pests and diseases for their children swearing ...
These are the gods of Africa ... and under the law of which is Africa.
Do not bother praying the gods speak another language ... and his sons are others ...
Chains ...

I agree with Ptolomeus, we Nigerians do not need prayers. We need to stand up and work for a better country. We need to start asking our leaders for better policies.

buzugee: not without instructions from the lord.

I see.

"do unto others before they do unto me". Killing for the lord!

buzugee: like i said, you need to be dropped in a vat of liquid cement and have it solidify all around you. then for the 20 minutes it will take you to vacate your body, you can think long and hard about what you did wrong. lol

What are you? religious mafia??

Have you killed someone with cement before?

Ptolomeus: A simple thread ... is just look up the word "atheism" in the dictionary ... But it seems that here before reading or thinking, many write ...
Only an slowpoke could think that atheism is a religion.
Only a fool ...
But even so simple, there are many "Nonsense" ... "slaves" ... "fallacy created you."
How much ignorance and bigotry ...

Uruguay 1 Venezuela 1

Nice football!

080ict.com:
may G6d have mercy on you. u are very greedy, why not open your own church and start collect all those thing you mentioned

I am not a christian nor do I believe in God.

buzugee: hey all am saying is the lord works in mysterious ways. some people require that degree of force to be refined

You have to understand that I have an opposite opinion.

God doesnt exist and somem people like you need a degree of force to understand that

vedaxcool: Lol! a very funny putting ur point! Oh! He is just having fun with the same toy!

Just confess that you dont like me. Dont be ashamed of your hate.


BTW, do mosques do offerings or tithes?

buzugee: falling into a vat of liquid cement and then the cement solidifying all around you while you are buried alive in it. that sounds like the kind of treatment a strong rebellious person like you would require.

Wow, a sadist and a christian.

How does this cognitive dissonance work? Are you schizophrenic?

buzugee: that can be arranged without a hitch.

I'm interested.

Who would be your choice for the executioner (flogger) role?

-muscled Jesuits?
-muscled priests?
-David "slap that winch" Oyedepo?

What style of flogging would it be?

-Jesus pre-crucifixion torture style of flogging?
-Negro slave whipping by Southern Baptist ministers?
-Egyptian style flogging of Moses's brethren?