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jmoore: No, leaving Nigeria is not in my "list of things to achieve" . Once again grow up, even your fellow atheists know that your mindset is that of a boy.

Sorry, but if you have never left Nigeria, then you havent learnt many things about this life. You can be smart while living only in Nigeria but you wont know certain things about other cultures around the world.


Here are the curtains (I didnt know they are called tapestries) that I was telling you about;

https://c257.r57.cf3.rackcdn.com/9bc5a1ea1c8733e888e640e75f91302a-927214607-1301790313-4d97be69-620x348.jpg

This picture is from the internet. I didnt take this one myself

JeSoul: Well, for starters, a point to it?

For someone who goes by a handle 'logic', can you show how this is a logical conclusion from the story you posted?

Were my two examples of the big church and Nigerian christian brothers not a clue to the daylight robberies that go unpunished in the name of christianity?

musKeeto: Who cares about your life? The story feels incomplete, or is it the title that's misleading?

Were you expecting me to give you EU Visa or what? What more do you want from the story? Christianity is a tithing scam

JeSoul: I second Muskeeto.

Where's the rest of the story & what's the point? I've been to many parts of the world and almost everytime I ran into a Nigerian they were up to no good. What does the fact these ones were into 'church business' have to do with religion & atheism?

What more do you want from the story?

Christianity is mostly a tithing scam. End of story.

jmoore: Logic boy needs to grow up. The price of the curtain used can purchase 2 private jets?

You have never left Nigeria have you? I am going to look for the pics of the curtains. They are rare works of arts with murals of kings drawn on them. They are rare.

Bush man

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Thank you bro. (btw i said Gods "and" Buddha because of Japanese dual religion and syncretism. .)

usually in the past the Samurai were pro-Buddhist while the common man was more towards traditional Shinto.[/quote]What do you think about Wicca? Female Wiccans are crazy about sex! Dont know about their paganism but I'm gussing there something about fertility and mother nature there.

I'm content withmy atheism

musKeeto: Really interesting story.. but why does the story feel incomplete?

What? Why do you want to know more about my life?

azpekuliar: So true about the church, from the pics. Top finishing in the interior. Would have loved you investigated more about what our naija brothers are up to there, maybe even board the bus alongside the oldies just to satisfy your curiousity.I know Malta has always been a popular first port of call for Naija pro-footballers hoping to make a career in Europe.

Yes, even a maltese guy was asking me to play football for his team because he knows how good Nigerian footballers are.


Anyways, those Naija guys were up to no good. Just old people that they were packing in their church bus

italo: 1) Spiritual beings do not exist. Calling God a spiritual being does not make him any more real than a tooth fairy

2) All animals have a universal common ancestor. We came from single celled organisms. Repeated speciation and anagenisis created the diversity of life we have here. Scientists, unlike religious folks, do not claim that they know everything. Scientists do not know the exact method of how these single celled orgamisms appeared (There are ideas on that). However, we know that we came from single celled organisms from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits (DNA) between animals. The closer the species or common ancestor, the more similar the traits are between animals. It simply means that the diversity in traits like dna become less similar as go back in time between different species to a basic single celled organism.


Please read more;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution


https://www.deborahstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/treeolife3.jpg

Atheist! Is this what you call "concrete evidence" that you evolved from a fish?

I ask for evidence that a theory is true and what do you do?

You practically state out the theory.

Italo: what's the evidence that there is a brain in your miserable skull?

Logicboy: there is a brain in my miserable skull.

How does that sound?

Really dumb.

And which "religious folk" ever claimed to know everything?

Or have you resorted again to shameful lies?

Wow,the ignorance is strong with this one.



I rest my case, lord knows I tried

oluface: And whats ur point boi?

And whats your challenge man? Cant you read and comprehend?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Do you believe in Gods and Budhha, etc?

Yes.[/quote]64% do not believe in God and so I doubt that question is real. Buddha is not a god also.


As for you, I wish not to argue with you. I am actuallay happy that you're a pagan. At least you follow your people's tradition/religion unlike the brainwashed Nigerians Christians and Muslims

azpekuliar: Where are the pictures?

Posted them. They didnt show at first

I spent 5 days in Malta earlier this year and it was cool. However, trust religion to spoil some parts of the trip. Mlata is a small sleepy island in Europe which is very peaceful and a great summer destination


When I got to Malta, for the first 3 days, I did not see more than 2 black people. Come sunday morning, I started hearing pidgin English from my hotel room in my sleep. When I woke up and went to the balcony, I saw 4 Nigerian brothers chatting away holding bibles. There were two other Nigerian sisters at the opposite side of the street from the Nigerian brothers. These guys looked hungry, even though they were dressed neatly for church. There were even ironically talking about "runs". Then after some minutes, old white men and women were entering their church bus. Apparently, the Nigerian dudes were hoarding these old people to their church.


The sight alone sickened and saddened me. What kind of nonsense is this? We dont see our Nigerians doing something good in the city centres in Malta. What we see is them carrying old people who are vulnerable to the church where they can be robbed through tithing and offering. If the Nigerians were honest, why where they speaking about runs in pidgin english and not in english?



The other thing that shocked me was the church of st John in Valleta. The church is worth billions of Euros and was built in the medieval times. The church will amaze you and keep you in awe. The architecture and paintings in the church are marvellous. Even the floor is art. The ceiling is also made of art an gold. The church is actually a museum on weekdays. Keep in mind that this church was built in a time in europe when peasants could die of starvation or hunger. Billions were spent on a church. Even the curtains in the church will buy Oyedepo's private jet twice!


Here are pictures of the church from my holiday

https://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426072_10150623988252909_733132908_9211935_1797278610_n.jpg


https://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419011_10150623990917909_733132908_9211941_1384735936_n.jpg

https://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425860_10150623993652909_733132908_9211956_1593783001_n.jpg

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]you are behaving in a deluded manner. you have no idea about my friends. in fact, i can understand that if you have a Japanese girlfriend, it is obvious that she does not care for religious traditions in the first place or she wouldn't be with you. and i don't really believe that anyways.

second, you must read your link properly. it clearly says around 83% of Japanese population are Shinto. first read your own information and then come and argue with me. [/quote]1) Did you read the full sentence?

"Figures that state 84% to 96% of Japanese adhere to Shinto and Buddhism are not based on self-identification but come primarily from birth records, following a longstanding practice of officially associating a family line with a local Buddhist temple or Shinto shrine"

Does that mean that they follow the religion or associate it with family tradition? Did you also ignore the following sentences after the one you quoted out of context;


84% of the Japanese claim no personal religion. In census questionnaires, less than 15 percent reported any formal religious affiliation by 2000.[9] And according to Demerath (2001:138), 64% do not believe in God, and 55% do not believe in Buddha.[10] According to Edwin Reischauer, and Marius Jansen, some 70 to 80 percent of the Japanese regularly tell pollsters they do not consider themselves believers in any religion.[1] Japanese streets are decorated on Tanabata, Obon and Christmas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan

2) I caught you lying because no Japanese person would ever tell you that Japan is religious. Unless he/she is lying to you

alexleo: The totality of your all your reasons remains that you people are too lazy to prove God in your lives as individuals. You people easily quote scientists and their discoveries yet too lazy to make your own discovery. Too much talk talk and laziness dey worry una.





still amounts to your laziness. Prove God my friend.

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Wow, the support of slavery in the bible? Did you ignore that?
The support of genocide in the bible as well.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Religion is interdependant on Culture. I am talking about Traditional Religion. All my Japanese friends are Shinto, and the believe in Gods, nature spitis, etc. .

your statistics are definitely wrong. I am sure. Even the underworld Yakuza clan are staunch Shintoists, so is the Emperor, the high officials, the common people, everyone.[/quote]You dont have Japanese friends and it is clear. Sorry. Any Japanese person will tell you that many japanese do not believe in God. Unlike you, I had a Japanese girlfriend.

As for my statistics. 84% of Japanese do not even have a personal religion. 64% do not believe in god
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Japan

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Japanese are extremely religious. I have many Japanese friends. Their religion has helped speed up their advent into the modern world, especially after WWII.[/quote]Religious or traditional? Religion or culture?


64% of Japanese clearly state that there is no God.

Tbaba does not surprise me, he hides behind soft translations of the Koran.


Thanks for exposing him....see how he ran away

toba: stop this cos it wouldnt work with me on this thread. The topic is centred on extracting the similarities between the two beliefs, that we ve done already. Review the thread and u'll see failed attempts by atheists that are older than u, that their attempts ended in futility No one is disputing how u became an atheist. My response was in English and unambiguous. Reading about evolution from the internet or in the papers may or may not have shapened ur belief. true of false

U are the one making an attempt to drift from the issue here.

Topic is not one side. its about Atheism and christianity. U provided the two definitions. If one is applicable to a belief, then the other should also apply to the 2nd one. Lets stay with the topic

Wrong, evolution did not have much effect on my atheism. I knew that there wasnt a god because there was no evidence for him. None. No god would have allowed the fate of slavery on anyone. Do you what it is to be the property of someone or to be castrated like an animal?

Evolution is not that important when you realise that many people were raised as atheists in Japan. Your evolution had nothing to do with their atheism. There are uneducated people that are atheists just because they were raised as atheists and they see no need for a god.


As for the meanings of faith, you are talking nonsense again. There is a difference in being faithful person and having faith in something. We all know what faith means. If you take the first definition, then you are saying that believing that your egg will boil if kept in boiling water on gas is faith. How illogical

Joagbaje: how much study have you made on spirits. To understand or disprove their existence. Have you ever thought of the chances of being wrong? . Supposing. . . Just supposing you're wrong.

But the point I' try to get across is the fact that most human sicknesses are demonic .doctors can't find demons in a lab. .

Name one demonic sickeness?

toba: does the first apply to atheists and atheism? if the first applys to them, then the 2nd might apply to some God believers


fine. but u believed it as true hence it may or may not have shapened ur belief. Yes or no

I became an atheist because of slavery. The christian support of slavery. Evolution came after


As for faith, you are deceitfully using two definitions. Use one to explain what you are trying to say

musKeeto: Sorry I didn't see that coming like T.B Joshua.

It's okay as long as you pay your tithes like Joagbaje!

Joagbaje: You must be under JuJucilogen

You mad? Omo, Laugh wan kill me die! I didnt know you could be funny at times!! Nice reply!




But being serious, there is no spiritual death. r you could say that I am spiritually dead as an atheist because I dont believe in spirits!

toba: welcome on board and let's see how far u can go


can u please give the dictionary meaning of faith?

faith/fāTH/
Noun:
1)Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2)Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof


How does that apply to atheists?

toba: how did u get to know about evolution?

Internet eg wikipedia and youtube

oluface: Man Muslim must accept jesus as messanger of God and not his son or trinity.. Do yell at jesus please... God sent him for real but he is a muslim.. One love my brother

Jesus is not a muslim. Jesus lived and died at time when there were no Arabs or muslims in Jerusalem or Rome

While the intent of this video was okay, the problem is with the text. The text is quite racist!!!!! "pink-white demons



Yes, we were enslaved and colonized but you dont call white people "pink-white demons".


However, it is sad that Africans are not ready to talk about slavery and colonization that destroyed the West African continent

musKeeto: TITHES
FAKE MIRACLES
NIGERIA

Dont let me Oyedepo-slap you from here!

You forgot to add "Oyedepo slaps"

oluface: pHd for Real..
How about HIV

No, its not HIV, it's diarrhea of the mouth. Chrisians just talk rubbish when they hear the name of their beloved Jesus

komole: You weren't obliged to type you know?
Couldn't make out sense in the above words of yours.

Then you should have stuck to Arabic if you dont understand English.


My comment was clearly written. Stop ignoring the truth.

Joagbaje: and what about the 75% who had died in the hands of doctors because the problem was spiritual.

Spiritual death? What killed them? Juju? You must be on some good hallucinogen!

toba: thats not true. U can loose faith anyhow. eg if u lost ur loved ones, if u spend too much time on NL, reading the posts of the atheist lOl

So you enjoy atheists posts, eh?

[quote author=Mr_Anony]I have had a look at your post but I must confess I haven't taken the time to read through it yet. You will eventually hear my thoughts (maybe not as soon as you might expect) but first what I am more interested in is whether you will be willing to discuss with an open mind and accept the possibility that you just might be mistaken and also that I do not have all the answers answers as well. If you agree to these terms then we can have dialogue otherwise our discourse will be futile as each of will stubbornly hold onto our ego and not make any progress. Do you agree?[/quote]You have no idea what it is to be a hardcore catholic. I never missed sunday mass for years. To question if I was a christian is quite insulting especially if you are not a catholic.

I'm an atheist now and no going back.